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Re: Is Feminism Really Destroying Marriages In Africa? by Feanah(f): 9:50pm On Nov 02, 2016
But the truth is some women are taking the feminism thing too far....I don't support oppressing women at all,and I believe a woman should know and stand up for her rights....but some things being done in the name of feminism don't make sense at all.

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Re: Is Feminism Really Destroying Marriages In Africa? by joseph1832ng: 9:52pm On Nov 02, 2016
Feanah:
But the truth is some women are taking the feminism thing too far....I don't support oppressing women at all,and I believe a woman should know and stand up for her rights....but some things being done in the name of feminism don't make sense at all.
Some things like what and what?
Re: Is Feminism Really Destroying Marriages In Africa? by joseph1832ng: 10:03pm On Nov 02, 2016
Amicable24:

The bolded is the one I don't just gbadun at all.. It's a man's world they say, they are free to do anyhow. The woman on the other hand is not allowed the freedom.. There are some things I don't pray for sha cry
Yes it's a man's world, so they say. But believe me, nobody if holding you back from living your life the way you want to live it.

Remember the saying "respect is reciprocal". I always tell people: "show people how you want to be treated".

Lemme borrow the signature of creme de la creme friend creamish: "one will be regarded as sh1t when one look and act like sh1t, and sh1t knows no class".

That's just the truth of it. smiley

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Re: Is Feminism Really Destroying Marriages In Africa? by bukatyne(f): 10:06pm On Nov 02, 2016
@OP:

I do not think feminism solves the martial issues highlighted in the OP; after all, women who see themselves as 'inferior' cheat/defraud/lie their spouses. I know someone who would cringe at the thought of men & women being equals yet she has to be cajoled before stocking the home with food and she is a housewife and I am sure there are men who see their wives as inferior yet treat her like egg.

As much as I'm a feminist, I don't process if we are 'equals' before treating my husband well ditto him. That is just for knowledge's sake.

Like sisisioge said, find a good man who loves you & shares your ideals.

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Re: Is Feminism Really Destroying Marriages In Africa? by bukatyne(f): 10:09pm On Nov 02, 2016
bitchcrafts:
While I'm in no way opposable to the prospects of Feminism , I don't see to the practicability of it. The odd feeling that it won't just work lingers... It's principles too simple and straight, promises too good and sweet to be true; ideals too perfect for an imperfect human. . . Equality is a false god ! I hope u grab?

Interesting

Why?
Re: Is Feminism Really Destroying Marriages In Africa? by Feanah(f): 10:39pm On Nov 02, 2016
joseph1832ng:
Some things like what and what?
So many things, I'm not an advocate of feminism when it comes to family.Like women not cooking for their husbands and taking care of their house like they should.They take these things too serious and it ends up affecting their marriage attimes.Doing these things doesn't make you look like a slave,it's only bad when he doesn't appreciate it.For me,I'd rather both parties retain their position in the family setting but respect each other.I remain the wife,and he remains the husband and breadwinner;two heads can't rule a family equally.What I can't take is you disrespecting me in anyway.
I come back late at times from work or I'm very tired when he's at home ,nothing wrong with him going into the kitchen to cook something for us.I need to tidy up the place or do the dishes,instead of him watching the television,he can help me out...and we do everything together while talking about how our day was.He's in a financially tight situation,I help him with what I can for the family.I think it's all about understanding though some men can be difficult.
Funny thing is some women who seem to support the equality thing , don't think it should be an 'equality' thing when it comes to providing for the family.
I don't know whether I'm the one who got the equality thing wrong or them.

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Re: Is Feminism Really Destroying Marriages In Africa? by joseph1832ng: 11:34pm On Nov 02, 2016
Feanah:

So many things, I'm not an advocate of feminism when it comes to family.Like women not cooking for their husbands and taking care of their house like they should.They take these things too serious and it ends up affecting their marriage attimes.Doing these things doesn't make you look like a slave,it's only bad when he doesn't appreciate it.For me,I'd rather both parties retain their position in the family setting but respect each other.I remain the wife,and he remains the husband and breadwinner;two heads can't rule a family equally.What I can't take is you disrespecting me in anyway.
I come back late at times from work or I'm very tired when he's at home ,nothing wrong with him going into the kitchen to cook something for us.I need to tidy up the place or do the dishes,instead of him watching the television,he can help me out...and we do everything together while talking about how our day was.He's in a financially tight situation,I help him with what I can for the family.I think it's all about understanding though some men can be difficult.
Funny thing is some women who seem to support the equality thing , don't think it should be an 'equality' thing when it comes to providing for the family.
I don't know whether I'm the one who got the equality thing wrong or them.
Ah! The truth at last. Such women are liars and deceivers of themselves and other foolish women.
Re: Is Feminism Really Destroying Marriages In Africa? by pocohantas(f): 11:35pm On Nov 02, 2016
Feanah:

So many things, I'm not an advocate of feminism when it comes to family.Like women not cooking for their husbands and taking care of their house like they should.They take these things too serious and it ends up affecting their marriage attimes.Doing these things doesn't make you look like a slave,it's only bad when he doesn't appreciate it.For me,I'd rather both parties retain their position in the family setting but respect each other.I remain the wife,and he remains the husband and breadwinner;two heads can't rule a family equally.What I can't take is you disrespecting me in anyway.
I come back late at times from work or I'm very tired when he's at home ,nothing wrong with him going into the kitchen to cook something for us.I need to tidy up the place or do the dishes,instead of him watching the television,he can help me out...and we do everything together while talking about how our day was.He's in a financially tight situation,I help him with what I can for the family.I think it's all about understanding though some men can be difficult.
Funny thing is some women who seem to support the equality thing , don't think it should be an 'equality' thing when it comes to providing for the family.
I don't know whether I'm the one who got the equality thing wrong or them.


I don't know who is getting the definition of feminism wrong, but from my own understanding it simply means, treat me first as human, don't stereotype me because of my sex, give me a chance to prove myself.

Feminism didn't ask any woman to neglect her home o...
Some people are equating feminism to arrogance, probably because of the kinda feminist they have seen or their understanding of feminism...which is wrong. Feminists can have happy homes contrary to popular belief.

Any woman that does any of those things you mentioned is simply a bad example of a wife. She could be a feminist or not. There are women in the village who know nothing about feminism putting up worse attitude. It's all in the mind.

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Re: Is Feminism Really Destroying Marriages In Africa? by Joy1706(f): 11:37pm On Nov 02, 2016
oloyede252:
I agree with you that your parents marriage is nothing to write home about,but they are in the minority so no problem.

wait How many Nigerian states have you visited? later you will say it's bad to generalize.
Where did I write about my parents marriage? You must be blind

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Re: Is Feminism Really Destroying Marriages In Africa? by Joy1706(f): 11:39pm On Nov 02, 2016
raumdeuter:


Have the foreign ones been something to write home about? In the US the divorce rate is in the region of 50% Maybe they are copying the Nigeria marriages
They are definitely happier wives abroad. It's not all about the length of a marriage

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Re: Is Feminism Really Destroying Marriages In Africa? by oloyede252(m): 11:43pm On Nov 02, 2016
Joy1706:

Where did I write about my parents marriage? You must be blind
you don't need to write it, you said Nigerian marriages is nothing to write home about and o guess your point of view is shaped and influenced by your immediate environment (your family )

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Re: Is Feminism Really Destroying Marriages In Africa? by oloyede252(m): 11:46pm On Nov 02, 2016
Joy1706:

They are definitely happier wives abroad. It's not all about the length of a marriage
can you prove your first sentence

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Re: Is Feminism Really Destroying Marriages In Africa? by talktonase(m): 11:52pm On Nov 02, 2016
Man and woman were never created equal and for feminism to be screaming equal rights then the natural order of things has been destroyed...

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Re: Is Feminism Really Destroying Marriages In Africa? by Nobody: 1:01am On Nov 03, 2016
Feanah:

So many things, I'm not an advocate of feminism when it comes to family.Like women not cooking for their husbands and taking care of their house like they should.They take these things too serious and it ends up affecting their marriage attimes.Doing these things doesn't make you look like a slave,it's only bad when he doesn't appreciate it.For me,I'd rather both parties retain their position in the family setting but respect each other.I remain the wife,and he remains the husband and breadwinner;two heads can't rule a family equally.What I can't take is you disrespecting me in anyway.
I come back late at times from work or I'm very tired when he's at home ,nothing wrong with him going into the kitchen to cook something for us.I need to tidy up the place or do the dishes,instead of him watching the television,he can help me out...and we do everything together while talking about how our day was.He's in a financially tight situation,I help him with what I can for the family.I think it's all about understanding though some men can be difficult.
Funny thing is some women who seem to support the equality thing , don't think it should be an 'equality' thing when it comes to providing for the family.
I don't know whether I'm the one who got the equality thing wrong or them.
I love you sis kiss
Re: Is Feminism Really Destroying Marriages In Africa? by raumdeuter: 1:06am On Nov 03, 2016
Joy1706:

They are definitely happier wives abroad. It's not all about the length of a marriage

What kind of contradiction is this

They are happier in marriage yet they're divorcing in droves.

Why would they be divorcing if they're happy in it.

It's like saying you enjoy this food yet you're it in the trash

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Re: Is Feminism Really Destroying Marriages In Africa? by armyofone(m): 3:50am On Nov 03, 2016
The idea of husband and wife working and bringing home the bacon while teaming together to raise their kids and build a home is not feminism but teamwork in our present day marriages.
So African men would rather go hang out with friends, drinking beer to stupor, eat suya and toasting chics while their working wives do the homework and raise kids alone?

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Re: Is Feminism Really Destroying Marriages In Africa? by Feanah(f): 4:46am On Nov 03, 2016
pocohantas:



I don't know who is getting the definition of feminism wrong, but from my own understanding it simply means, treat me first as human, don't stereotype me because of my sex, give me a chance to prove myself.

Feminism didn't ask any woman to neglect her home o...
Some people are equating feminism to arrogance, probably because of the kinda feminist they have seen or their understanding of feminism...which is wrong. Feminists can have happy homes contrary to popular belief.

Any woman that does any of those things you mentioned is simply a bad example of a wife. She could be a feminist or not. There are women in the village who know nothing about feminism putting up worse attitude. It's all in the mind.
I get your point
Re: Is Feminism Really Destroying Marriages In Africa? by Feanah(f): 4:49am On Nov 03, 2016
joseph1832ng:
Ah! The truth at last. Such women are liars and deceivers of themselves and other foolish women.

cheesy they are
Re: Is Feminism Really Destroying Marriages In Africa? by Feanah(f): 4:50am On Nov 03, 2016
Lawlahdey:
I love you sis kiss
cheesy smiley I love youuu too

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Re: Is Feminism Really Destroying Marriages In Africa? by Nobody: 5:19am On Nov 03, 2016
Feanah:

So many things, I'm not an advocate of feminism when it comes to family.Like women not cooking for their husbands and taking care of their house like they should.They take these things too serious and it ends up affecting their marriage attimes. Doing these things doesn't make you look like a slave,it's only bad when he doesn't appreciate it.For me,I'd rather both parties retain their position in the family setting but respect each other.I remain the wife,and he remains the husband and breadwinner;two heads can't rule a family equally.What I can't take is you disrespecting me in anyway.
I come back late at times from work or I'm very tired when he's at home ,nothing wrong with him going into the kitchen to cook something for us.I need to tidy up the place or do the dishes,instead of him watching the television,he can help me out...and we do everything together while talking about how our day was.He's in a financially tight situation,I help him with what I can for the family.I think it's all about understanding though some men can be difficult.

Well said sister!!
Re: Is Feminism Really Destroying Marriages In Africa? by joseph1832ng: 8:00am On Nov 03, 2016
Feanah:
cheesy they are
That's nice to know. If you live by what you say and believe it, one man out there will be lucky to have you as a wife. smiley
Re: Is Feminism Really Destroying Marriages In Africa? by YourCoffin: 8:48am On Nov 03, 2016
Me, I abhore feminists. I have always been anti feminism. If that makes me an oppressor, I wholeheartedly accept.

I think a new label should be invented. This feminism label no longer holds water

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Re: Is Feminism Really Destroying Marriages In Africa? by bukatyne(f): 8:59am On Nov 03, 2016
pocohantas:



I don't know who is getting the definition of feminism wrong, but from my own understanding it simply means, treat me first as human, don't stereotype me because of my sex, give me a chance to prove myself.

Feminism didn't ask any woman to neglect her home o...
Some people are equating feminism to arrogance, probably because of the kinda feminist they have seen or their understanding of feminism...which is wrong. Feminists can have happy homes contrary to popular belief.

Any woman that does any of those things you mentioned is simply a bad example of a wife. She could be a feminist or not. There are women in the village who know nothing about feminism putting up worse attitude. It's all in the mind.
@Bold: Absolutely kiss

armyofone:
The idea of husband and wife working and bringing home the bacon while teaming together to raise their kids and build a home is not feminism but teamwork in our present day marriages.
So African men would rather go hang out with friends, drinking beer to stupor, eat suya and toasting chics while their working wives do the homework and raise kids alone?

@Bold:

Well put kiss

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Re: Is Feminism Really Destroying Marriages In Africa? by bukatyne(f): 9:00am On Nov 03, 2016
YourCoffin:
Me, I abhore feminists. I have always been anti feminism. If that makes me an oppressor, I wholeheartedly accept.

I think a new label should be invented. This feminism label no longer holds water

Oya start
Re: Is Feminism Really Destroying Marriages In Africa? by YourCoffin: 9:25am On Nov 03, 2016
bukatyne:


Oya start

cheesy :DD
That's women's purview. Men are novice when it comes to invention of labels. We just determine which one still holds water or not

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Re: Is Feminism Really Destroying Marriages In Africa? by Nobody: 10:30am On Nov 03, 2016
The most over-flogged topic on Nairaland darkens our doorstep once more with its redoubtable shadows.
Shall I entertain it for a while, or cause it to go like the velvet on a young stag's antlers?

...

Feminism is a noble cause, and any woman who claims to be non-feminist needs to be enlightened and warped out of that fog-shrouded haze of ignorance.

The only problem with feminism are the feminists themselves who are terribly flawed as a result of their being human, and thus, creaturely susceptible to humanly pratfalls and errors.

Feminists should endeavour to screen out the unmeet essentialism they attach to feminism, along with the footling practices vis-à-vis gender equality that they are most times guilty of. Like plunging headlong into a bitter spiel about man-spreading, and free-bleeding, and so on and so forth.
All that sort of funk and jazz only help in furtherance of the trivialization of the cause rather than in giving it a boost.

If we could all see ourselves first as humans, and have dealings with ourselves as human-to-human without the gender polarities coming into play, then this ‘battle-of-the-sexes’ nonsense that is so preeminent in this comtemporary time would long be whelmed in a sweeping deluge of inexistence.

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Re: Is Feminism Really Destroying Marriages In Africa? by bitchcrafts: 4:23pm On Nov 03, 2016
bukatyne:


Interesting

Why?
Like every other -isms and -schisms, this is also liable to abuse. So many ladies outchea plot, in the name of feminism, to enslave men. Unyielding to pressure and slavery stances, marriages break. Even over such miniature issues as ''You should help in the kitchen if you want yo dinner" when evidently the man has been lapped off every remaining wits by the Lagos scorching sun all day , battered so, all he ever could "listen" to is food in his belly... So many deluded , coldly heartless young maidens outchea than you can imagine hiding under the umberalla of liberal freedom and equality feminism fiercely campaigns madam.

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Re: Is Feminism Really Destroying Marriages In Africa? by ElsonMorali: 5:12pm On Nov 03, 2016
I see feminists everywhere.

Women these days are becoming more feminist and less feminine.

I wonder what's attractive in a feminist.

Your destiny is not about proving that you are better than a man, it's about showing that you can be a better woman than you already are.

As far as I am concerned, being feminine is a lot more attractive and compels respect and love than being a feminist.

There's nothing like gender equality, but gender equity. Treat a man like a man, and treat a woman like a woman. Simple.

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Re: Is Feminism Really Destroying Marriages In Africa? by ElsonMorali: 5:23pm On Nov 03, 2016
Feanah:

So many things, I'm not an advocate of feminism when it comes to family.Like women not cooking for their husbands and taking care of their house like they should.They take these things too serious and it ends up affecting their marriage attimes.Doing these things doesn't make you look like a slave,it's only bad when he doesn't appreciate it.For me,I'd rather both parties retain their position in the family setting but respect each other.I remain the wife,and he remains the husband and breadwinner;two heads can't rule a family equally.What I can't take is you disrespecting me in anyway.
I come back late at times from work or I'm very tired when he's at home ,nothing wrong with him going into the kitchen to cook something for us.I need to tidy up the place or do the dishes,instead of him watching the television,he can help me out...and we do everything together while talking about how our day was.He's in a financially tight situation,I help him with what I can for the family.I think it's all about understanding though some men can be difficult.
Funny thing is some women who seem to support the equality thing , don't think it should be an 'equality' thing when it comes to providing for the family.
I don't know whether I'm the one who got the equality thing wrong or them.

While I agree that the man should man up and do whatever it takes to make the life of his woman a lot easier, which includes making dinner once a while, bathing the kids, changing their diapers (ewwww), rubbing her back and giving her a massage, generally treating her likehis queen that she is, yet I think we all know why men are reluctant to do these things.

You cook once, next thing she's gonna draw up a roaster of some sort sharing kitchen duties with you equally. And when you don't do it she gets miffed.

I'm not married, but from my interaction with married friends, that's the idea I got from them.

You bathe the baby once, then it becomes your life long duty and she'd be pissed at you if you fail at it.

Thank God we don't have breasts. We may end up sharing breastfeeding duty too. cheesy
Re: Is Feminism Really Destroying Marriages In Africa? by Amicable24: 5:41pm On Nov 03, 2016
joseph1832ng:
Yes it's a man's world, so they say. But believe me, nobody if holding you back from living your life the way you want to live it.

Remember the saying "respect is reciprocal". I always tell people: "show people how you want to be treated".

Lemme borrow the signature of creme de la creme friend creamish: "one will be regarded as sh1t when one look and act like sh1t, and sh1t knows no class".

That's just the truth of it. smiley
Nice one..
Where I find fault is when one demands/commands a lot of respect from the other whereas he/she is not respectful..

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Re: Is Feminism Really Destroying Marriages In Africa? by Feanah(f): 6:42pm On Nov 03, 2016
ElsonMorali:


While I agree that the man should man up and do whatever it takes to make the life of his woman a lot easier, which includes making dinner once a while, bathing the kids, changing their diapers (ewwww), rubbing her back and giving her a massage, generally treating her likehis queen that she is, yet I think we all know why men are reluctant to do these things.

You cook once, next thing she's gonna draw up a roaster of some sort sharing kitchen duties with you equally. And when you don't do it she gets miffed.

I'm not married, but from my interaction with married friends, that's the idea I got from them.

You bathe the baby once, then it becomes your life long duty and she'd be pissed at you if you fail at it.

Thank God we don't have breasts. We may end up sharing breastfeeding duty too. cheesy
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Re: Is Feminism Really Destroying Marriages In Africa? by ElsonMorali: 8:57pm On Nov 03, 2016
Feanah:

It depends on the kind of woman and the man too - and the kind of family you come from.
My father is somehow like that,loves taking care of his kids himself & even himself (the little things he can do himself,he doesn't make anyone do them for him,) . Doesn't mind my mum travelling once in a while and leaving him with the kids. I'm not going to go into details,but he's different & it hasn't affected the way my mum performs her duties in any way,maybe it even made her act better.
Till date I'm conflicted about who I love more between him and my mum because he is unique, not like the usual dads you see in some homes.
I'm not telling you my family history o,but even if you can't do some things for your wife....do them for your kids, it will help shape your relationship with them & will make them love you more.
And yes,I've heard of instances where the husband tries to help and things go wrong; maybe these women grew up in an environment where they hardly come across such things.

If you think it's because my parents are old,I've friends too in their 20s whose husbands help them out a lot; and when we talk attimes, all they do is praise them (the husbands) cheesy . So nothing to worry about really,if you get a good woman.

I'm not against men helping their wives. undecided

Anyway, a little advice to young ladies about yet to marry.

Don't go into marriage with such expectations that your husband MUST help you out in the domestic chores. Because more often than not you'll be disappointed.

If he does help out, then be grateful that you have a man who is wonderfully caring.

We aren't plenty like that out there. But we are there. smiley smiley smiley

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