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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:54pm On Nov 03, 2016
OdenigboAroli:


But this is not the kind of game you gamble with an inexperienced and a young player . These Algerians are coming for bloodbath and they will throw everything at us. I won't even consider Alampasu. Akpeyi is my first choice not because he is more talented than Ezenwa but for his experience and confidence.

Neither is it a game to gamble with a weaker keeper due to the keeper's experience. Best in training starts.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OdenigboAroli(m): 5:54pm On Nov 03, 2016
Kog45:
True talk my sister coz d guy is not ready for recall due to a reason best know to him.He did not step aside but retired,a very tough decision for him and it w be tough for him to come out of retirement.

No option for now than to Psyche d trio(Akpeyi,Ezenwa and Alampasu)up for d crucial match.There is nothing anybody can do about d goalkeeping area for now than to encourage d guys.

It w be better for Enyeama and country if he can come out of retirement,with him and Ikeme in camp then w are secured.

Did you just say "reason best known to him ? " Oga,you go jail ?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 5:55pm On Nov 03, 2016
OdenigboAroli:


Here we go again,you node tire biko.
On a serious note, Do you really believe there are forces in NFF working against "people from a particular region ? "Do you really believe that crap?
Pls guys don't turn this section to tribalism.I don't care if all our players come from south east,they are d best,all w want is result
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:56pm On Nov 03, 2016
OdenigboAroli:


Oliseh has always been a hothead. People like that don't make good decision. He ruined everything and humiliated our hero before the public. Oliseh deserve a beat down by Nigerian youths.

Please, do not beat Oliseh. He is also a National hero who did a lot for the Super Eagles.

Coolu Temper.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 5:57pm On Nov 03, 2016
OdenigboAroli:


Did you just say "reason best known to him ? " Oga,you go jail ?
Yea and pls don't jail
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Certitude(m): 5:59pm On Nov 03, 2016
OdenigboAroli:


But there was never a time Aiyenugba was rated as a world class goalkeeper. I have always known him as a good penalty stopper, not such a great goalkeeper. He had his chances and fell short,he won't be the first,so let's try some other hands. Ultimately,I want you to erase Aiyenugba from your memory,he will not be called.
why would anyone want to call aiyenugba. That guy wasn't spectacular. I wondered what siasia was thinking when he placed him ahead of Ejide if he felt enyeama was indisciplined.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 6:04pm On Nov 03, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


Please, do not beat Oliseh. He is also a National hero who did a lot for the Super Eagles.

Coolu Temper.
Yea national hero but messed Enyeama up but how i wish Enyeama handle it in a very mature way like Mikel did,anyhow Enyeama must come out of retirement coz Eagles belong to Nigeria not Olishe.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OdenigboAroli(m): 6:05pm On Nov 03, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


Neither is it a game to gamble with a weaker keeper due to the keeper's experience. Best in training starts.

I don't buy that best in training starts,it smells of disaster. An inexperienced player can have a good day in training but that is not to say they will replicate such form in a real life situation. I will prefer Akpeyi to start because he is more experienced and has been in a similar situation,hence,experienced. You and I know that no way in the world would Alampasu start against Algeria. It's not even a smart thought.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 6:06pm On Nov 03, 2016
Certitude:

why would anyone want to call aiyenugba. That guy wasn't spectacular. I wondered what siasia was thinking when he placed him ahead of Ejide if he felt enyeama was indisciplined.

Aiyenugba was a very good goalkeeper. He just had Enyeama and Ejide ahead of him but he was also quality.

He is better than Ezenwa and Akpeyi (at his prime), that's for sure.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:07pm On Nov 03, 2016
Kog45:
Yea national hero but messed Enyeama up but how i wish Enyeama handle it in a very mature way like Mikel did,anyhow Enyeama must come out of retirement coz Eagles belong to Nigeria not Olishe.

Enyeama's case was far different from Mikel. He buried his mum, flew out of Nigeria to camp the next day and arrived on a Monday.

This was not a case of stripping off Enyeama's captain band but during his time of pain.

The pain, stress and hatred got to his head.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 6:09pm On Nov 03, 2016
OdenigboAroli:


I don't buy that best in training starts,it smells of disaster. An inexperienced player can have a good day in training but that is not to say they will replicate such form in a real life situation. I will prefer Akpeyi to start because he is more experienced and has been in a similar situation,hence,experienced. You and I know that no way in the world would Alampasu start against Algeria. It's not even a smart thought.

I agree with you. The goalkeeping role is too sensitive. Akpeyi looked nervous at the Olympics in an inconsequential match though.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OdenigboAroli(m): 6:09pm On Nov 03, 2016
Kog45:
Pls guys don't turn this section to tribalism.I don't care if all our players come from south east,they are d best,all w want is result

You know very little about me. I am hardly influenced by tribal affiliation.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 6:11pm On Nov 03, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


My stance is clear. I believe the training ground is the best place to sort the team. Not history of games. If Alampasu does better in training than the other keepers, then the right thing to do is start him.
This game is too big for Alampasu. Alampasu is not exactly known for having nerves of steel.
At the U17 world cup, it took him 3 games to settle. Nerves got the best of him until the knockout stages when he settled in. Against Algeria, no matter how good he is in training, he will just be too nervous in the first 30mins atleast.
You don't want to imagine what could happen within those minutes. Akpeyi starting is unnegotiable
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OdenigboAroli(m): 6:11pm On Nov 03, 2016
tbaba1234:


I agree with you. The goalkeeping role is too sensitive. Akpeyi looked nervous at the Olympics in an inconsequential match though.

Wasn't Daniel the one at Olympics? Either I am mixing things up or you are.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OdenigboAroli(m): 6:13pm On Nov 03, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


Please, do not beat Oliseh. He is also a National hero who did a lot for the Super Eagles.

Coolu Temper.

I doubt I will ever beat anybody up,doesn't solve any problem. But Oliseh is too mouthy,people who talk without thinking will always talk nonsense.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OdenigboAroli(m): 6:15pm On Nov 03, 2016
Kog45:
Yea and pls don't jail

I suppose you don't know what transpired between Enyeama and Oliseh?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 6:15pm On Nov 03, 2016
OdenigboAroli:


Wasn't Daniel the one at Olympics? Either I am mixing things up or you are.

They were both at the Olympics. Akpeyi played one game and he was atrocious.. The 3rd group game after we qualified.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:17pm On Nov 03, 2016
OdenigboAroli:


I don't buy that best in training starts,it smells of disaster. An inexperienced player can have a good day in training but that is not to say they will replicate such form in a real life situation. I will prefer Akpeyi to start because he is more experienced and has been in a similar situation,hence,experienced. You and I know that no way in the world would Alampasu start against Algeria. It's not even a smart thought.

I buy it well. That is why you can see clubs play young keepers despite lack of experience. What is the use of all the experience if one teenager will Outshine an experienced player in training.

How experienced was Cassilas when he started keeping for Real Madrid?

If Alampasu outshines them in camp, play him.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:18pm On Nov 03, 2016
tbaba1234:


They were both at the Olympics. Akpeyi played one game and he was atrocious.. The 3rd group game after we qualified.

I wonder why Akpeyi's experience did not come to his rescue.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:20pm On Nov 03, 2016
goldfish80:

This game is too big for Alampasu. Alampasu is not exactly known for having nerves of steel.
At the U17 world cup, it took him 3 games to settle. Nerves got the best of him until the knockout stages when he settled in. Against Algeria, no matter how good he is in training, he will just be too nervous in the first 30mins atleast.
You don't want to imagine what could happen within those minutes. Akpeyi starting is unnegotiable

Alampasu is no more U17. He is a regular goalkeeper for a European team. By the way, where was Akpeyi's nerves when Emmanuel Daniel displaced him?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OdenigboAroli(m): 6:20pm On Nov 03, 2016
tbaba1234:


Aiyenugba was a very good goalkeeper. He just had Enyeama and Ejide ahead of him but he was also quality.

He is better than Ezenwa and Akpeyi (at his prime), that's for sure.

I followed Aiyenugba when he was at his best,at Enyimba fc during their second time as Champions of Africa. Aiyenugba was average ,at best. Akpeyi is better but Ezenwa is brilliant
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 6:23pm On Nov 03, 2016
Certitude:

why would anyone want to call aiyenugba. That guy wasn't spectacular. I wondered what siasia was thinking when he placed him ahead of Ejide if he felt enyeama was indisciplined.
Do we have any spectacular goalkeepers except Enyeama and of recent Ikeme which i highly rated coz of his technicality,others are bunch of average.

On Ejide,honestly i don't want to say much on him coz he has everything to be a world class keeper but a total flop coz he lack composure which made Onigbinde to rate Enyeama ahead of him,though a first choice in Afcon 2008 ahead of Enyeama but it was apparent that Berti Vogts went for his physic

Also Siasia benched him for Aiyenugba coz he lack d heart of goalkeeper coz with his height and frame I don't even expecting Enyeama to be No 1 choice
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 6:24pm On Nov 03, 2016
So when will you now judge a goalkeeper's performance? I talk say pesin no fit catch shot wey soft you dey tell me babu sey no be him fault say na counter. No be only counter na front desk you for talk

forgiveness:


Dem don sign am? grin

Until den, I dey observe.

Aiyenugba did nothing wrong in that match because it was a counter and you don't expect him to turn to super man.

NFF was to be blamed for not doing there home work.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 6:25pm On Nov 03, 2016
OdenigboAroli:


I followed Aiyenugba when he was at his best,at Enyimba fc during their second time as Champions of Africa. Aiyenugba was average ,at best. Akpeyi is better but Ezenwa is brilliant

Akpeyi and Ezenwa are in no way better than Aiyenugba.

Did you watch Akpeyi at the Olympics? He was terrible in the only game he played.

Ezenwa is an error waiting to happen.. Watch the goals conceded by the NPFL all stars in spain, A good fraction came from a misjudged cross or Ezenwa getting beaten on his near post. Good reflexes,poor technique

Aiyenuba was not exceptional but he did things well.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 6:30pm On Nov 03, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


Alampasu is no more U17. He is a regular goalkeeper for a European team. By the way, where was Akpeyi's nerves when Emmanuel Daniel displaced him?

It's not a chasm between 17 and 20.
He's playing for a second division side in Portugal. You hardly have 50 people watch such games live at the stadium let alone having it on live TV.
Totally different from the 60000+ swearing fans in Uyo. Its not even close.

Emma displaced Akpeyi from where?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 6:33pm On Nov 03, 2016
In my football playing days, i was an Ezenwa... good reflexes but weak fundamental keeping technique. One minute, i could make a fantastic save, the other i misjudged an ordinary cross but i was not a professional.

You do not teach reflexes, you either have it or you don't. The other aspects of keeping have to be taught. Positioning, dealing with crosses etc
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:33pm On Nov 03, 2016
goldfish80:


It's not a chasm between 17 and 20.
He's playing for a second division side in Portugal. You hardly have 50 people watch such games live at the stadium let alone having it on live TV.
Totally different from the 60000+ swearing fans in Uyo. Its not even close.

Emma displaced Akpeyi from where?

Who was our Olympics No. 1 goalie? Akpeyi should have been number one due to his experience.

If the 60,000+ shouting fans means better keeper, then Akpeyi should easily Outshine Alampasu. If not, what is the use of the experience, if not getting an unfair advantage over a better talent.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:36pm On Nov 03, 2016
chrisooblog:
So when will you now judge a goalkeeper's performance? I talk say pesin no fit catch shot wey soft you dey tell me babu sey no be him fault say na counter. No be only counter na front desk you for talk


My Belle O!! Hilarious.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 6:39pm On Nov 03, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


Who was our Olympics No. 1 goalie? Akpeyi should have been number one due to his experience.

If the 60,000+ shouting fans means better keeper, then Akpeyi should easily Outshine Alampasu. If not, what is the use of the experience, if not getting an unfair advantage over a better talent.
Alampasu's team actually plays in the 4th divison in the Portuguese football league.
You really canvassing for a keeper with a 4th divison team to start against Algeria? The biggest game for Nigeria this calendar year.
You make me laugh sometimes
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:41pm On Nov 03, 2016
goldfish80:

Alampasu's team actually plays in the 4th divison in the Portuguese football league.
You really canvassing for a keeping with a 4th divison team to start against Algeria? The biggest game for Nigeria this calendar year.
You make me laugh sometimes

So Akpeyi who is a Champions League regular, (LOLS), should easily Outshine Alampasu in camp. If not, what is the need of the Champions League experience?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 6:42pm On Nov 03, 2016
goldfish80:

Alampasu's team actually plays in the 4th divisor Portuguese football league.
You really canvassing for a keeping with a 4th divison team to start against Algeria? The biggest game for Nigeria this calendar year.
You make me laugh sometimes

Truth be told, i think Alampasu is better than both Akpeyi and Ezenwa but the experience factor is against him. Akpeyi should start.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 6:44pm On Nov 03, 2016
tbaba1234:


Truth be told, i think Alampasu is better than both Akpeyi and Ezenwa but the experience factor is against him. Akpeyi should start.
For a goalie, being talented is not enough. Exposure matters alot

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