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Re: “Conte Is Punishing Mikel For Playing For Nigeria At The Olympics” – Rohr by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:10pm On Nov 11, 2016
edi287:

The video I posted already showed Matic's dribbling skills...I could get another one if you want.

I do not want Matic dribbling skills. If you want a brief lecture on why Mikel is special, I can tell you.

I said, what Mikel pulled off in that video, Matic can never do it. It is a very simple point. That thing is amazing.

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Re: “Conte Is Punishing Mikel For Playing For Nigeria At The Olympics” – Rohr by edi287: 8:14pm On Nov 11, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


I said, go and read on the role of a technical director in a club before displaying that you do not understand what you are arguing.
In this case, the director of football may be sought by a board – or even manager – in order to provide advice or technical assistance on footballing or other aspects that are perceived as lacking or desired by the club. This may be the case where the manager is inexperienced or perceived as naive in a particular aspect, allowing the director to advise against potentially costly errors. This may also be the case where a club in a lesser league or lower division with ambitions to develop further and improve their league position seeks an experienced former manager or director from a more prominent league or club in order to use their experience to further the club.

Is Conte "perceived as naive and inexperienced"?? How has him benching Mikel lead to "potentially costly errors" when Chelsea are playing their best football in this formation??
Re: “Conte Is Punishing Mikel For Playing For Nigeria At The Olympics” – Rohr by edi287: 8:16pm On Nov 11, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


I do not want Matic dribbling skills. If you want a brief lecture on why Mikel is special, I can tell you.

I said, what Mikel pulled off in that video, Matic can never do it. It is a very simple point. That thing is amazing.
Again...my argument is simple...Matic is more mobile and a better dribbler than Mikel...that has always been my argument. I said Mikel reads the game better and is probably more tactically disciplined. That was my main argument. He suits Conte's style of play better than Mikel.
Re: “Conte Is Punishing Mikel For Playing For Nigeria At The Olympics” – Rohr by edi287: 8:20pm On Nov 11, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


Matic tanked under Mourinho. Matic has had poor games. Something that hardly attributed to Mikel. Mikel gets dropped based on preference. Matic got dropped for being poor. Food for thought
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You're only reinforcing my point even more...Matic is the more dynamic player while Mikel is better at reading the game and "doing the basics" I guess. Again...look at Conte italy team at the euros and tell me one player similar to Mikel in his first 11...every player has poor games...Busquets, Makelele, you name it. So I don't get the point you're trying to make.
Re: “Conte Is Punishing Mikel For Playing For Nigeria At The Olympics” – Rohr by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:20pm On Nov 11, 2016
edi287:

Again...my argument is simple...Matic is more mobile and a better dribbler than Mikel...that has always been my argument. I said Mikel reads the game better and is probably more tactically disciplined. That was my main argument. He suits Conte's style of play better than Mikel.

I said, if you want a lecture on this, quit claiming you know and I will take my time to Enlighten you.

Teachability. Stop acting as if you are in Stamford Bridge training pitch every afternoon. The Super Eagles coach took his time to teach you but your too deep into your lack of understanding of the facts to learn.
Re: “Conte Is Punishing Mikel For Playing For Nigeria At The Olympics” – Rohr by edi287: 8:25pm On Nov 11, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


I said, if you want a lecture on this, quit claiming you know and I will take my time to Enlighten you.

Teachability. Stop acting as if you are in Stamford Bridge training pitch every afternoon. The Super Eagles coach took his time to teach you but your too deep into your lack of understanding of the facts to learn.
Again...bullshit. I refuse to belive that because Rohr says something it's the gospel truth. Rohr and Emenalo are not in Conte's head. Chelsea's results back up Conte's decision not to start Matic...saying that they'd do better with Mikel pairing Kante is rubbish. Conte found a formula and stuck with it...any other reason is plain bullshit. If Matic was Nigerian and Mikel was serbian, you guys would insult the serbian coach if he made the same comment or say "oh its unfortunate, deal with it....we can't bench an inform player for your player"
Re: “Conte Is Punishing Mikel For Playing For Nigeria At The Olympics” – Rohr by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:27pm On Nov 11, 2016
edi287:

In this case, the director of football may be sought by a board – or even manager – in order to provide advice or technical assistance on footballing or other aspects that are perceived as lacking or desired by the club. This may be the case where the manager is inexperienced or perceived as naive in a particular aspect, allowing the director to advise against potentially costly errors. This may also be the case where a club in a lesser league or lower division with ambitions to develop further and improve their league position seeks an experienced former manager or director from a more prominent league or club in order to use their experience to further the club.

Is Conte "perceived as naive and inexperienced"?? How has him benching Mikel lead to "potentially costly errors" when Chelsea are playing their best football in this formation??

Stop running faster than your legs.

the director of football may be sought by a board – or even manager – in order to provide advice or technical assistance on footballing.

Simple, The Technical Director provides the club Technical Assistance in running the club. He knows the running of the technical side of the club inside out.

He goes to the training pitch, Tactics room. He is tactically sound.

Example, Avram Grant who was a Technical Director and later coached Chelsea to a Champions League final.

Txiki Begiristain, current City technical Director is the former Coach of Barcelona.

It is Emenalo's job to know why Mikel is not playing. The coach reports to the technical director.

So stop acting like if you know more than the most successful Technical director in the history of Chelsea.

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Re: “Conte Is Punishing Mikel For Playing For Nigeria At The Olympics” – Rohr by agrovick(m): 8:27pm On Nov 11, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


John Obi Mikel is the best defensive midfielder that Chelsea has, the statistics prove that. He is calm on the ball, a competent tackler and rarely makes mistakes.

Against Bayern Munich and Barcelona he had to be excellent as Chelsea were constantly under attack, especially at the Nou Camp.


http://eplindex.com/16829/chelsea-forget-john-obi-mikel.html

Essien, Matic and Kante all met Mikel in Chelsea and they all benched him despite his acclaimed best defensive midfielder status. I guess that had to do with the coaches punishing him for going to the Olympics.

Yes, Mikel was the only excellent one against the two teams, the other Chelsea players were average in the aforementioned games.
It's talks like this that made your protégé to yarn opaks earlier.

PS: Kante is what we all hoped Mikel turned out to be.
And in the current Chelsea set up, there is no justification for Mikel been a part of the first 11
Re: “Conte Is Punishing Mikel For Playing For Nigeria At The Olympics” – Rohr by sammydidiar(m): 8:28pm On Nov 11, 2016
madridguy:
God alone will shame that useless coach called KOTE abi na Conte.

Baba Ibeji Mikel, nothing do you.
..mikel is one of us, but truth be told, magic and kanta are better.period!
Re: “Conte Is Punishing Mikel For Playing For Nigeria At The Olympics” – Rohr by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:30pm On Nov 11, 2016
edi287:

Again...bullshit. I refuse to belive that because Rohr says something it's the gospel truth. Rohr and Emenalo are not in Conte's head. Chelsea's results back up Conte's decision not to start Matic...saying that they'd do better with Mikel pairing Kante is rubbish. Conte found a formula and stuck with it...any other reason is plain bullshit. If Matic was Nigerian and Mikel was serbian, you guys would insult the serbian coach if he made the same comment or say "oh its unfortunate, deal with it....we can't bench an inform player for your player"

You can bury yourself in ignorance and close your ears to the truth. You can not change the truth. Rohr blew the hatred you guys have of a hero who served this country with all his heart.

You guys are too ashamed to face the truth of how your hatred blinded you.

Rohr went to Stamford Bridge. Discussed with the technical director. Gave his report.

It is out in the open. You can find the nearest transformer and bath on top
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Re: “Conte Is Punishing Mikel For Playing For Nigeria At The Olympics” – Rohr by edi287: 8:32pm On Nov 11, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


You can bury yourself in ignorance and close your ears to the truth. You can not change the truth. Rohr blew the hatred you guys have of a hero who served this country with all his heart.

You guys are too ashamed to face the truth of how your hatred blinded you.

Rohr went to Stamford Bridge. Discussed with the technical director. Gave his report.

It is out in the open. You can find the nearest transformer and bath on top
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Ok..let me ask you one question...if you were Conte, tell me who you'd replace Mikel with??
Re: “Conte Is Punishing Mikel For Playing For Nigeria At The Olympics” – Rohr by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:34pm On Nov 11, 2016
agrovick:


Essien, Matic and Kante all met Mikel in Chelsea and they all benched him despite his acclaimed best defensive midfielder status. I guess that had to do with the coaches punishing him for going to the Olympics.

Yes, Mikel was the only excellent one against the two teams, the other Chelsea players were average in the aforementioned games.
It's talks like this that made your protégé to yarn opaks earlier.

PS: Kante is what we all hoped Mikel turned out to be.
And in the current Chelsea set up, there is no justification for Mikel been a part of the first 11

I guess you are just arguing what you want. Turn on your TV Tomorrow or jump from third mainland bridge.

Go check out Mikel's brilliant performance in the FA Cup final against Manchester United.

I know you guys hoped for Kante because you guys wanted to attempt suicide every time Mikel shone like a million stars.
Re: “Conte Is Punishing Mikel For Playing For Nigeria At The Olympics” – Rohr by agrovick(m): 8:35pm On Nov 11, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


Congratulations. The man who knows more than Guus Hiddink. A man who coached the likes of Patrick Kluivert, Edgar Davids, Seedorf, Overmars, Zenden, Phil Cocu, Hasselbank, Van Hooijdonk (Spelling), Frank and Ronald De Boer, Van Da Saar.

Such a coach explained that Mikel's style is beautiful. Yet you are talking Slow.

As usual jumping into conclusions, the bone of contention was attributing Chelsea's Champions League victory to Mikel alone while the failure of Nigeria to qualify for 2 consecutive cup of nations tournament can not be linked to him after your protégé claimed Mikel is the Lord of all.
Re: “Conte Is Punishing Mikel For Playing For Nigeria At The Olympics” – Rohr by agrovick(m): 8:40pm On Nov 11, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


I guess you are just arguing what you want. Turn on your TV Tomorrow or jump from third mainland bridge.

Go check out Mikel's brilliant performance in the FA Cup final against Manchester United.


I know you guys hoped for Kante because you guys wanted to attempt suicide every time Mikel shone like a million stars.

Lolllll, isn't it funny that we've to go back almost 10 years to find a game where Mikel performed brilliantly.

Smfh! I will have to call it a night, it's obvious you and your acolyte are both trolling. Why will I wish him evil, when I know an awesome Mikel will be a great addition to the Eagles.
Pull out the stats of Kante and Mikel from last season and let's see who shyts on who.

Accept the fact that Mikel has not done enough to dislodge either Kante or Matic in that 3-4-3 abi you think it's by passing backwards and sideways that a player stakes his place in the team.
Re: “Conte Is Punishing Mikel For Playing For Nigeria At The Olympics” – Rohr by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:41pm On Nov 11, 2016
edi287:

Ok..let me ask you one question...if you were Conte, tell me who you'd replace Mikel with??


That is none of my business. I want Mikel out of Chelsea. So please enjoy Matic and Kante.

Where was Matic when Mourinho got spanked repeatedly? I remember, on the field.

The problem with Mikel and Conte is not just starting Matic and Kante. Mikel does not come close to his bench. Conte said the reserve coach should give Mikel playing time.

So please, I do not want Mikel to start for any reason. I want Mikel off Chelsea's books. Honestly. That is my prayer for the hero. He sacrificed his flair for Chelsea. Helped them win enough. He has done enough for Chelsea.
Re: “Conte Is Punishing Mikel For Playing For Nigeria At The Olympics” – Rohr by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:44pm On Nov 11, 2016
agrovick:


As usual jumping into conclusions, the bone of contention was attributing Chelsea's Champions League victory to Mikel alone while the failure of Nigeria to qualify for 2 consecutive cup of nations tournament can not be linked to him after your protégé claimed Mikel is the Lord of all.

Football is a team game. It is people like you who read on the impact of Mikel and want to Attempt Suicide. He was brilliant. Mikel's contribution was instrumental to the success. That is not writing off the others but acknowledging the impact of Mikel
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Re: “Conte Is Punishing Mikel For Playing For Nigeria At The Olympics” – Rohr by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:46pm On Nov 11, 2016
agrovick:


Lolllll, isn't it funny that we've to go back almost 10 years to find a game where Mikel performed brilliantly.

Smfh! I will have to call it a night, it's obvious you and your acolyte are both trolling. Why will I wish him evil, when I know an awesome Mikel will be a great addition to the Eagles.
Pull out the stats of Kante and Mikel from last season and let's see who shyts on who.

Accept the fact that Mikel has not done enough to dislodge either Kante or Matic in that 3-4-3 abi you think it's by passing backwards and sideways that a player stakes his place in the team.

You are talking Matic this, Matic that. I am showing you something Matic can never do. Matic can not put up the kind of performance Mikel put up against Manchester United.

Mikel can not perform as poor as Matic did until Chelsea was challenging relegation.

Fact.
Re: “Conte Is Punishing Mikel For Playing For Nigeria At The Olympics” – Rohr by edi287: 8:47pm On Nov 11, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


That is none of my business. I want Mikel out of Chelsea. So please enjoy Matic and Kante.

Where was Matic when Mourinho got spanked repeatedly? I remember, on the field.

The problem with Mikel and Conte is not just starting Matic and Kante. Mikel does not come close to his bench. Conte said the reserve coach should give Mikel playing time.

So please, I do not want Mikel to start for any reason. I want Mikel off Chelsea's books. Honestly. That is my prayer for the hero. He sacrificed his flair for Chelsea. Helped them win enough. He has done enough for Chelsea.
I'm an Arsenal fan, not a chelsea fan. Don't care what about Kante and Matic.
You are right...Mikel should leave. He should've left last season when Mou was benching him regularly.
This season, he's in a similar situation as Cesc and John Terry...Conte is struggling to fit him in his new formation. He doesn't fit in his style of play...that's all...nothing more, nothing less.
No one is denying all he has achieved over 11 years...he just doesn't fit in Conte's plan. Time for him to move on.
Re: “Conte Is Punishing Mikel For Playing For Nigeria At The Olympics” – Rohr by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:48pm On Nov 11, 2016
agrovick:


Lolllll, isn't it funny that we've to go back almost 10 years to find a game where Mikel performed brilliantly.

Smfh! I will have to call it a night, it's obvious you and your acolyte are both trolling. Why will I wish him evil, when I know an awesome Mikel will be a great addition to the Eagles.
Pull out the stats of Kante and Mikel from last season and let's see who shyts on who.

Accept the fact that Mikel has not done enough to dislodge either Kante or Matic in that 3-4-3 abi you think it's by passing backwards and sideways that a player stakes his place in the team.

Why not tell me the stats of how Matic destroyed Mourinho's name?
Re: “Conte Is Punishing Mikel For Playing For Nigeria At The Olympics” – Rohr by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:50pm On Nov 11, 2016
edi287:

I'm an Arsenal fan, not a chelsea fan. Don't care what about Kante and Matic.
You are right...Mikel should leave. He should've left last season when Mou was benching him regularly.
This season, he's in a similar situation as Cesc and John Terry...Conte is struggling to fit him in his new formation. He doesn't fit in his style of play...that's all...nothing more, nothing less.
No one is denying all he has achieved over 11 years...he just doesn't fit in Conte's plan. Time for him to move on.

As I said, Arguing what you do not know. Mikel is not in a similar situation or close to that of Fabregas and Terry. Conte froze Mikel out of the team. Not even bench in EFL Cup. Loftus-Cheek and Chalobah play.

That is evil. Punishing a player because of his devotion to the country. Stop coating evil.
Re: “Conte Is Punishing Mikel For Playing For Nigeria At The Olympics” – Rohr by agrovick(m): 8:53pm On Nov 11, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


You are talking Matic this, Matic that. I am showing you something Matic can never do. Matic can not put up the kind of performance Mikel put up against Manchester United.

Mikel can not perform as poor as Matic did until Chelsea was challenging relegation.

Fact.

Lolllll! You need to live for the moment. Is it Matic's debut where he totally owned Yaya Toure or his recent performance against this same Manchester United where they chopped Four nothing.

Mikel is so good that Chelsea had to buy Matic who then ensured he superglued Mikel's yansh to the Chelsea bench.

All hail Lord Mikel... Nobody is questioning Mikel as a player, he has his own strengths but to claim he deserves a starting role over Kante and Matic is the kind of talk one can be stoned to death for.
Re: “Conte Is Punishing Mikel For Playing For Nigeria At The Olympics” – Rohr by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:55pm On Nov 11, 2016
agrovick:


Lolllll! You need to live for the moment. Is it Matic's debut where he totally owned Yaya Toure or his recent performance against this same Manchester United where they chopped Four nothing.

Mikel is so good that Chelsea had to buy Matic who then ensured he superglued Mikel's yansh to the Chelsea bench.

All hail Lord Mikel... Nobody is questioning Mikel as a player, he has his own strengths but to claim he deserves a starting role over Kante and Matic is the kind of talk one can be stoned to death for.

Forgetting Chelsea shipped Matic out of the club before. As I said, Matic did enough to stop other coaches from being scared of Mourinho.

Keeping talking he owned Yaya Toure as if Mikel did not outclass Yaya Toure at the AFCON.
Re: “Conte Is Punishing Mikel For Playing For Nigeria At The Olympics” – Rohr by agrovick(m): 8:57pm On Nov 11, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


Why not tell me the stats of how Matic destroyed Mourinho's name?

It is not a crime that players have a low.
Hazard was abysmal last season, Willian wasn't. Do we now say Willian is better than Hazard.

No dey yarn dust abeg.
Re: “Conte Is Punishing Mikel For Playing For Nigeria At The Olympics” – Rohr by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:57pm On Nov 11, 2016
agrovick:


Lolllll! You need to live for the moment. Is it Matic's debut where he totally owned Yaya Toure or his recent performance against this same Manchester United where they chopped Four nothing.

Mikel is so good that Chelsea had to buy Matic who then ensured he superglued Mikel's yansh to the Chelsea bench.

All hail Lord Mikel... Nobody is questioning Mikel as a player, he has his own strengths but to claim he deserves a starting role over Kante and Matic is the kind of talk one can be stoned to death for.

You are the one drinking acid. The Super Eagles boss said, Conte is punishing Mikel because he played for Nigeria.

It is you that is suicidal talking Matic this, Matic that. The same Matic who turned Mourinho's face to.. ....

Re: “Conte Is Punishing Mikel For Playing For Nigeria At The Olympics” – Rohr by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:59pm On Nov 11, 2016
agrovick:


It is not a crime that players have a low.
Hazard was abysmal last season, Willian wasn't. Do we now say Willian is better than Hazard.

No dey yarn dust abeg.

Your the one deceiving yourself. I said, Mikel can never be that poor. If Mourinho sees Matic.....

Re: “Conte Is Punishing Mikel For Playing For Nigeria At The Olympics” – Rohr by agrovick(m): 9:01pm On Nov 11, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


Forgetting Chelsea shipped Matic out of the club before. As I said, Matic did enough to stop other coaches from being scared of Mourinho.

Keeping talking he owned Yaya Toure as if Mikel did not outclass Yaya Toure at the AFCON.

Take link jare http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2014/09/24/head-to-head-nemanja-matic-vs-john-obi-mikel-is-matic-the-play/
Re: “Conte Is Punishing Mikel For Playing For Nigeria At The Olympics” – Rohr by agrovick(m): 9:03pm On Nov 11, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


Your the one deceiving yourself. I said, Mikel can never be that poor. If Mourinho sees Matic.....

He never can be that poor yet the poor ones are playing while he is chopping the bench.

Mikel in his customary role, bench warmer.

Re: “Conte Is Punishing Mikel For Playing For Nigeria At The Olympics” – Rohr by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:03pm On Nov 11, 2016
agrovick:


Take link jare http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2014/09/24/head-to-head-nemanja-matic-vs-john-obi-mikel-is-matic-the-play/

They did not know how poor Matic could be until Mourinho was close to relegation. They should give us head to head of Matic relegation run.
Re: “Conte Is Punishing Mikel For Playing For Nigeria At The Olympics” – Rohr by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:04pm On Nov 11, 2016
agrovick:


He never can be that poor yet the poor ones are playing while he is chopping the bench.

Mikel in his customary role, bench warmer.

Better to warm bench than ruin Mourinho's legacy.

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Re: “Conte Is Punishing Mikel For Playing For Nigeria At The Olympics” – Rohr by edi287: 9:04pm On Nov 11, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


As I said, Arguing what you do not know. Mikel is not in a similar situation or close to that of Fabregas and Terry. Conte froze Mikel out of the team. Not even bench in EFL Cup. Loftus-Cheek and Chalobah play.

That is evil. Punishing a player because of his devotion to the country. Stop coating evil.
You are overreacting. It just means Mikel is not in his plans anymore. Come January, Mikel should find another club...simple as that. Didn't this same Conte give Mikel his blessings and wished him well at the Olympics?? How do we know he hasn't seen something in Chalobah that makes him want to integrate him to the first 11 the same way wenger did with Iwobi (which we ate benefiting from??)
Re: “Conte Is Punishing Mikel For Playing For Nigeria At The Olympics” – Rohr by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:07pm On Nov 11, 2016
edi287:

You are overreacting. It just means Mikel is not in his plans anymore. Come January, Mikel should find another club...simple as that. Didn't this same Conte give Mikel his blessings and wished him well at the Olympics?? How do we know he hasn't seen something in Chalobah that makes him want to integrate him to the first 11 the same way wenger did with Iwobi (which we ate benefiting from??)


You are misunderstanding. Mikel was in Conte's plans when Conte said he needed Mikel to win. Simple. After Mikel refused to abandon Nigeria, Conte froze Mikel out of his squad.

It is so simple. Why argue the truth?
Re: “Conte Is Punishing Mikel For Playing For Nigeria At The Olympics” – Rohr by edi287: 9:10pm On Nov 11, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


You are misunderstanding. Mikel was in Conte's plans when Conte said he needed Mikel to win. Simple. After Mikel refused to abandon Nigeria, Conte froze Mikel out of his squad.

It is so simple. Why argue the truth?
Again, I'm saying - Conte found a new formation that he's struggling to fit him into the team. What if that is TRULY the reason instead of what Emenalo is trying to imply?

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