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naijadeyhia:
Are you naturally this dense? So you hate the fact they saved actual lives but would rather they left the place where their relations and friends and children may have been killed?

Dude you are dense for real.

johnydon22:
Let us put this particular silly excuse to rest once and for all - Please everyone pay close attention to this.

Now i'll like you to produce any part of the article https://www.nairaland.com/3461069/evil-forests-destroyed-aboh-mbaise

that explicitly said the forest was used for human sacrifices..
We are waiting..

johnydon22:
Let us put this particular silly excuse to rest once and for all - Please everyone pay close attention to this.

Now i'll like you to produce any part of the article https://www.nairaland.com/3461069/evil-forests-destroyed-aboh-mbaise that explicitly said the forest was used for human sacrifices..

We are waiting..

naijadeyhia:
Indeed you are dense and I doubt if you truly are igbo. I am proudly igbo and son of the soil. From your profile pic you are a kid so I will excuse your ignorance.

When a forest is tagged an evil forest in igbo culture its a place where the abominable get put. if a child is born witb 6 toes he is an abomination so into the evil forest with him

if a child is born siamese same thing

Those who commit taboos against the community get buried alive or sacrificed to the shrine there to appease their gods ...


This amongst other things is why there is the bag of EVIL forest on it. An evil forest in a community has boundaries and those knowledgeable in that community know these boundaries so avoid it.

Were you expecting them to include that human sacrifices were being carried out there in that article?

I suggest you call an mbaise man and be educated. You are still a boy.

johnydon22:
Lol here we go !!! Everyone i said it, now look just look..

I told you guys to watch closely!!!

naijadeyhia:
smh indeed you are a boy.

I suggest you take a hike to aboh mbaisa and to that particular community and find out first hand what the goings on were in that evil forest. You can thank me later. Ignorance is no excuse. You are clearly ignorant so simply appealing to emotions.

johnydon22:
Let us put this particular silly excuse to rest once and for all - Please everyone pay close attention to this.
Now i'll like you to produce any part of the article
https://www.nairaland.com/3461069/evil-forests-destroyed-aboh-mbaise

that explicitly said the forest was used for human sacrifices..

We are waiting..

johnydon22:
Lmao bro you no longer have a case, that a group of over enthusiastic Christians tag a forest evil doesn't make it so - humans can be evil not forests. this was a simple task...

johnydon22:
Lmao bro you no longer have a case, that a group of over enthusiastic Christians tag a forest evil doesn't make it so - humans can be evil not forests. this was a simple task...

I'm still waiting though, let's see if you can pull this off...!!!

naijadeyhia:
Why are you doing this to yourself? Those who live in the community have their reason for calling it that. I asked you to take a hike there and find out why and you are here spewing nonsense.

The article said they repented and were once worshipping their gods and followin the tradition of the land. They are way more knowledgeable than you in this regard.

Nobody wakes up and tags a place evil. In Igbo its called ajo Ani and its normally designated for the acts requested by their gods which include sacrifice, oaths, rituals etc.

You really need to stop embarrassing yourself right now. I am trying to get you to write in an informed manner and not ignorantly such as you are doing. Balance is the key word

I am done here before this grotesque ignorance rubs off on me.

johnydon22:
Let us put this particular silly excuse to rest once and for all - Please everyone pay close attention to this.
Now i'll like you to produce any part of the article
https://www.nairaland.com/3461069/evil-forests-destroyed-aboh-mbaise

that explicitly said the forest was used for human sacrifices..

We are waiting..

johnydon22:
lmao - everyone knows your idea of "Evil forest" comes from Nollywood, Evil forests are basically place where Corpses of people who die evil or died on an abominable act or from strange illnesses are thrown not a shrine with a chief priest
- LOL i wonder who is ignorant of Igbo culture, tradition and history.

Now back to the issue..



You have to finish this sir

naijadeyhia:
Oh and by the way just in case you did not get the memo....Christians did not tag it an evil forest..it was already an evil forest before Christianity. ..I suggest you read up on Igbo culture and tradition.

johnydon22:
Now i'll like you to produce any part of the article
https://www.nairaland.com/3461069/evil-forests-destroyed-aboh-mbaise

that explicitly said the forest was used for human sacrifices..

We are waiting..

naijadeyhia:
This is why I called you a kid. So you assume that Nollywood formulated that concept? You do not know it was borrowed from already existing Igbo culture and tradition?

Your ignorancr is epic.

Perhaps tou should rewind to the days of Mary Slessor and re-educate her.

lmao - everyone knows your idea of "Evil forest" comes from Nollywood, Evil forests are basically place where Corpses of people who die evil or died on an abominable act or from strange illnesses are thrown not a shrine with a chief
priest
- LOL i wonder who is ignorant of Igbo culture, tradition and history.

johnydon22:
Bros evil forests don't have Chief Priests only a shrine does, Evil forests are basically place where corpses of individuals deemed evil or committed abominable acts are thrown and we all know it has been ages that crap stopped..

Igbo lesson in culture 101

so show us where the article affirmed your assumptions

johnydon22:
Baba this is what i said



I just helped you define what Evil forests really mean - i am still waiting for you though, stop running around boss

naijadeyhia:
So now exposing your motive for the thread is now a digression?

You propagate hate in the name of Atheism and here you are accusing another of Hypocrisy.

You call Religious folk fools and stvpid and all and here you are acting like you never do.

You open a thread calling out Christians for cutting down trees and bushes which have had an adverse effect on their community and instead of hailing their action since it saved lives you would rather focus on the trees and bushes and not the lives saved

and you say you are not a deceiver and a hypocrite?

naijadeyhia:
chai such glorious ignorance.

An evil forest is a designated area for the rituals demanded by their gods to be performed. These gods have chief priests and this chief priest has a shrine and he can choose to locate his shrine inside the middle of the forest in accordance with his demands and it is this chief priest who says what must happen in that forest.

You are still a kid boy. Call your dad to educate you on igbo culture.

johnydon22:
Haaa finally back from a three days ban apparently for insulting Islam

johnydon22:
Oh the pen is forever mightier than the sword/gun and i will forever utilize the pen and never the sword against societal evils and demeaning superstitions...

If terrorism, wars and conflicts ended only in the pen, the world would have been a perfect paradise..

I just wish everyone adopted my "Pen terrorism"

johnydon22:
Oh the pen is forever mightier than the sword/gun and i will forever utilize the pen and never the sword against societal evils and demeaning superstitions...

If terrorism, wars and conflicts ended only in the pen, the world would have been a perfect paradise..

I just wish everyone adopted my "Pen terrorism"

francis247:
Johnny, I thought you're an Atheist. I thought you don't believe in God, the spiritual and everything it stands for. Why dey drink panadol 4 another person headache?

OKUCHI11:
hello Mr Johnny.. I would like to reference ur works here on nairaland in my research work.....

delishpot:
It is very wrong what they did. Truth is many Christians would not support the rampage of youths in the name of Christ,

When Christians persecute and terrorize others it is seen as a war against evil, these other religions or cults are tagged labels like "Evil hindrance to our progress" etc but when others treat Christians the same way it is called persecution and terrorism.

naijadeyhia:
Oh I did read all the crap you wrote and stopped short of asking you for your freedom of worship or belief in others when you open Atheist threads to bash Christianity?

Are you exempted from also beibg tolerant of anothers beliefs but can accuse others of not being tolerant? You have threads all over NL mocking and ridiculing the religious beliefs of others and here you are playing all sanctimonious.

Boy stop being the chief Hypocrite.

johnydon22:
I saw a thread on the front page on how Christian Youths after months of prayers and what not invaded a supposedly Evil forest, cut down trees and all while believing this trees are the stumbling blocks of their progress
https://www.nairaland.com/3461069/evil-forests-destroyed-aboh-mbaise

The most interesting part of the whole story is that 'The Chief Priest' in charge of this forest fled as it was portrayed in the story suggesting that this was someone else's place of worship that got raided and destroyed by a Mob of Christians.

This is nothing short of terrorism.

A similar event took place in my town years ago when a mob of Christian Youths under the chant of clearing the community from evil to ensure progress attacked old men and women in the community who practised the African traditional religion as causes for their problems.

Objects depicting their beliefs were seen as evidence of their crime, angry youths metting out unjust amd cruel treatment on others for having relics of their own beliefs and practices in their homes while in an ironic and hypocritic sense had rosaries, scapulars, medals of saints and bibles around their necks or in their hands.

The heat of the event culminated in the death of one old man left in the cold harmattan breeze of a typical igbo tropical rain forest [My town], if this is not terrorism i wonder what else it is.

Accusing others of being evil sorely because they practise a religion consonant to yours.

Let us for one moment pause and imagine the scenerio from a different angle, what if the story above was

"Parish Priest fleds as traditional Youths destroy Church"

Let us be entirely honest with ourselves, most reactions on that thread would have taken a different tilt of "Persecution, tribulations, suffering for Christ, persecution for Christ, terrorism, evil"

When Christians persecute and terrorize others it is seen as a war against evil, these other religions or cults are tagged labels like "Evil hindrance to our progress" etc but when others treat Christians the same way it is called persecution and terrorism.

This is the height of hypocrisy.

Why do these Christians feel it is their divine right to attack and destroy other people's places of worship, relics of belief but cry foul when they are being met with similar treatment?

why is that Christians shout "Persecution" even when it is clear they are the ones persecuting others of a minority class?

Why is it that Christians always feel justified to terrorize others and hypocritically portray this act of terrorism in a good light?

On what moral ground do they condemn "Islamic terrorists"?

There is something i have noticed Pravelent across Christiandom, they all have a nasty case of 'Victims mindset' Syndrome. They believe so strongly in their hearts that they are being persecuted, they always see themselves as the victims of persecution even when they are the majority persecuting others.

We all have freedom of belief and practises as stipulated by our constitution, however this freedom of belief and practise in no way means you are allowed to force others to live by your beliefs or encroach into the beliefs and practises of others - that will be encroaching into other people's rights and by virtue of violent attacks nothing less than full blown terrorism.

But the appropriate Nigerian authorities are silent on these subtle acts of terrorism while Christians hypocritically complain of the 'favoured' treatment given to muslims in the northern part of the country forgetting that even they themselves enjoy the same biased, unfair priviledges.

If all would be honest with themselves, the real victims here are the religions of the minority class more so The African Traditional religion.

You are basically seen as an outsider in this country if you are neither Christian or Muslim, automatically regarded evil and is looked upon with suspicion and contempt.

I still remember as a boy deep in the slums of Enugu Ugbo-oghe in abakpa, the whole street flared up one day over an old man's preaching - he was obviously of a Judaic sect, openly preached that Jesus is not God, that only Yahweh is, he went on to accuse the Christians of false god worship and all hell was let loose that day.

He was attacked by a mob of angry youths, beaten mercilessly and dumped beside Abakpa river [Mmiri ocha] to the gleeful approval of the women and the children of which i was part of chanting to their praise wishing we were grown enough to take part in defending our religion from something as trivial as a simple verbal attack.

In crusade grounds sects and religions like Eckankar, Ogboni, Olumba Olumba, Amoc are usually met with fervent shouts of holy ghost fire because they are always portrayed in a very evil light of which i was surprised to find out quite the opposite as i grew up, these were innocent religions of their own with no less ridiculous beliefs as i had.

But attacking other God(s) and beliefs constitutes a major part of both Christian evangelism and sermons - The hypocrisy has never been too obvious.

Early morning evangelism with blasting microphones always accusing others of worshipping false Gods, nobody bats an eyelid, if the reverse is the case hell breaks loose.

These sort of examples are quite common in many corners of the south, a hypocritic attack on other people's faith while clamoring for yours to be exempted from attacks.

I am perturbed not only because of these acts of terrorism but because of the unparalleled hypocrisy it is buttered with even from the media, the lust for world domination has always ensured that Abrahamism remain very aggresive towards other beliefs.

An Igbo adage says "Let the Kite perch and the eagle Perch, the one that says the others should not perch, may it loose it's wings"

These intolerance and acts of terrorism against others and their practises must be addressed, we should all lend our voice and not be silent in the face of evil and unjust acts.

People should learn that just as you seek the right to exercise your franchise, you should not also seek the right to prevent others from exercising theirs, Freedom of religion does not mean freedom to force it down other people's throat or terrorize them.

As the bible portrayed, Jesus fought and preached against the hypocrisy of the Pharisee, those acclaimed to be following his footsteps ended up becoming the worst Hypocrites the world has even known.

People must understand, Just as you have your beliefs, others have theirs. Just as you have your own sacred place of worship others also have theirs they consider sacred. Just as you have your practises and rituals others have theirs, others have their own ideas of what God is just as you have yours.

So if you expct any respect for your beliefs, God, place of worship or practises, you must first learn to accord that to others.