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sukkottt:
who said i accepted gnostic ? i dont put labels on things. your kind of gnostic interpretation of the bible is wrong so therefore it is obvious i do not accept gnostic. your interpretation borders on everything being spiritual and immaterial. thats outright wrong. as such I do not subscribe to gnosticism if thats what the definition of gnosticism entails

4kings:
I'm not a Gnostic, but i feel that their teachings are a bit more logical to mainstream Christianity.
And this claim is wrong; "your interpretation borders on everything being spiritual and immaterial."

However, if your assertion is that there are wrong, are you saying that there are also hacked by the devil?

sukkottt:
are gnostics also hacked by the devil ? well if they think everything in the bible is just spiritual musings and no concrete historical reference then yes they are hacked by demons

4kings:
Gnostics don't deny all historical references, but use them to convey their messages, just like you did

sukkottt:
well in that case i guess you can say i am gnostic. but with regards to being hacked by the devil or demons you have to look at the fruits of a man to determine if he has been hacked or not. if you look at lil wayne ? you know he has been hacked by demons. if you look at davido ? he has been hacked into. etc etc. and any man who says there is no existence of the divine creator also has been hacked into

4kings:
Remember u said there are no doctrines, so how is Davido hacked?

sukkottt:
you dont need a doctrine to be hacked. you can be controlled without the use of a doctrine and you can be controlled with the use of a doctrine, but technically speaking, having no doctrine is a form of doctrine. carnality and hedonism and debauchery is a form of doctrine although technically it is not a doctrine, if you know what i mean

4kings:
I can't see how davido is being hacked, maybe you are talking about "fornication", therefore using the biblical standard of morality.
What is the repercussion for this?

sukkottt:
davido is being used to corrupt the youth of the country. he is hacked. he is introducing this drugs and alcxohol and get rich or die trying to youths and destroying their morality. the repercussions ? karma . i know not in what form it would come or even if it would come in this lifetime however in this lifetime he would not live long. thats the karma on those who corrupt. they never live long. fela, tupac, biggie, jimi hendrix, etc etc you can never live long. you will be cut down and then in the next reincarnation you will come and pay for everything.

4kings:
OK

Who created this "devil"?

sukkottt:
God

4kings:
Is it just like the story in the bible?

4kings:
Mr. Sukkottt, you accept other beliefs like other Gnostic, you have no doctrine guiding your belief system, you consider change in era as rise of new nations, and you base your beliefs solely on the activities of your mind or what you feel the creator reveals to you.

I don't think i can make any strong argument to what is not subjected to any empirical evidence, but feelings.

However i am open-minded, if your idea of the universe and God is true, so be it, i would only accept it, if that "feeling" you talked about overwhelms my logic.
It's been nice talking to you.

And one last clarification, does reincarnation replace "Heaven and hell"?

KingEbukasBlog over to you.

KingEbukasBlog:
bro , what exactly should I address pls

sukkottt:
kinda.

4kings:
The basis for your conviction are Personal experiences and Holy Book Stories.
Same with sukot, but he has a different ideology.

One of you are under strong delusion, are u SURE its not you?

KingEbukasBlog:
Whatever ideology it is , the point still remains that we both know the coming of Christ is near and whoever hasn't accepted him as Lord and Savior will perish .

4kings:
Mr. Sukkottt let's move over from scrutiny to discussion.

What do u think is the purpose of life?

4kings:
sukkottt do u agree with this?
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So Christ is the key out of delusion?

sukkottt:
everything in life is a delusion so there is no getting out of any delusion. The question is does your delusion prevent you or encourage you to break cosmic laws ? The only people ( very few on this planet ) who are free from delusions are the ascended masters whom all the keys and secrets have been revealed to. everybody else is under one form of delusion or the other. religion you can say is a delusion but then again it is a necessary delusion because you need symbolic physical representation of the invisible cosmic laws, so in essence it is an essential delusion to humanity.

sukkottt:
The purpose of life ? well the world is a stage and we are the actors, and in that stage is ' PLAY ' that has been cosmically scripted. whatever part you get to play as an actor on this world stage depends on how many cosmic laws you break, or dont break if thats the case. The more cosmic laws you break the shittier the role you will play. so our purpose here is to be actors on this world stage and part of that process includes auditioning. so basically your life now is an audition for a role in your next reincarnation, or you may very well be in the role after auditioning in previous reincarnation. key here is to obey the cosmic laws or as some call it ? GODS COMMANDMENTS

4kings:
But do u agree with KingEbukas view on the eventual coming of Jesus Christ to judge the unbelievers?

4kings:
An actor knows what role he is to play because of his script.
But what of those that are not bound by a form religion from birth or due to circumstances, they don't know the script(GODS COMMANDMENT), and your God only reveals himself on certain frequency that few are opportune to receive.

It won't be right to regard it as an audition when you are not aware of the stakes? or will everyone be fully aware of their roles in the next life and their previous audition screening.

ScienceWatch:
Important question that should save many lives : What does Jesus Christ say about identifying fake pastors ?

KingEbukaNaija:
Children are not held accountable by God for their sins until they reach a certain age . Well most acceptable age for accountability is 13 . So children will not go to Hell . God is a wise and just being , so he can determine if you are actually aware of the wrongs the committed or the gravity of their offence .

There is no bible verse that really addressed this though .

Non Christians who did not get to know God will be judged according to their works . Jesus never said that those who do not believe in him will go to hell .

Romans 2:6-11
6 who will render to every man according to his deeds: 7 to them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: 8 but unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, 9 tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; 10 but glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: 11 for there is no respect of persons with God.

It does not say if you don't believe in me , hellfire for you .


Matthew 7:21
"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven."

Another verse that clearly says "but the one who does the will of my Father" . You will be judged according to your works and if you never knew Christ your judgement will ascertain if you are indeed in line or an errant .

John 3:19-21
And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil. For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed. But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God.

People from other religions can go to heaven if they never got to know Christ but only God's judgement determines if that its so . Their lives would undergo so much scrutiny

sukkottt:
Unbelievers are judged everyday. if a trailer falls on someone thats judgement, if a container falls on you and you are crushed to death - its judgement, you get cancer - its judgement - car accident ? - its judgement - you lose your home and become homeless ? its judgement. every evil is judgement. nothing is coincidental. there are no coincidences

username226:
am under the bondage of Satan how can I get my way back

sukkottt:
most people do not know they are actors on a world stage. they are called zombies. so you dont necessarily have to know. not knowing you are part of a script is part of the script, if you know what i mean. not knowing you are in a cosmic script means you are in a shitty role. illuminated beings know their roles

4kings:
KingEbukasBlog is this in line with your belief?
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So Nelson Mandela's sentence, the years of black slavery, aluu 4 killing, JFK assassination and the likes were justified before hand?

4kings:
KingEbukasBlog is this in line with your belief?
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So Nelson Mandela's sentence, the years of black slavery, aluu 4 killing, JFK assassination and the likes were justified before hand?