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Re: Architects: What Is Wrong With This Preliminary Draft by Princelegacylemoha(m): 7:22am On Nov 25, 2016
Plan not properly Arranged
Rooms not properly positioned
Fenestration is poor.
Best option :
Design needs ammendments or alternatively change.

Re: Architects: What Is Wrong With This Preliminary Draft by Adaowerri111: 7:24am On Nov 25, 2016
abouzaid:
this plan is very good but with that shape, i begin to wonder what's the shape and size of the land.


The size is about 70 by 80 ft
Re: Architects: What Is Wrong With This Preliminary Draft by mastro: 7:25am On Nov 25, 2016
First Draft
The Dining and Kitchen are much too small, forget grid ref, just compare to size of bathrooms.
Guest toilet arrangement is flawed, your guest will have to come into living room to take a shower.
I'm assuming that you asked for a separate entrance, for the Suite on the left?
Only master Bed has wardrobe space and it's much too small.
Corridor is much too long, I see that he is trying to get light in, but design is fundamentally flawed.

Second Draft
Is better but that longggggggggggggggg corridor suggests to me a lack of understanding of basics, when no be face-me-I-face-you

Honestly I suggest you engage another "ARCHITECT" to give you a draft.

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Re: Architects: What Is Wrong With This Preliminary Draft by wiloy2k8(m): 7:27am On Nov 25, 2016
okay .
Re: Architects: What Is Wrong With This Preliminary Draft by Dannyset(m): 7:28am On Nov 25, 2016
troubleshooter:
My dear, where do I start from.?

Let me dwell on the majors:

1. Too many lobbys.
This signifies a poor articulation of design. Designers do this when they are boxed into corners and seek d easiest way out. Unnecessary Lobby are a waste of space and money. All those lobbys combined wld have given u one room or more.

2. The kitchen, dinning and toilet are a joke.
By this provided proportions, they are not habitable. Let Ur designer put furniture and sanitary wares in Ur spaces: u will see d wind blow on his fowl ass.

3.the exterior walls could be better aligned.
The arrangement could be better harnessed to look less unwieldy as presented here. This would make construction less cumbersome.

4. Based on this external wall arrangement, I would love to see how he handles d roof. If his thinking is d same, he would make a mess of D roof being u ecessarily cumbersome.

5. I love the fact that his living spaces are cross ventilated. Good.

6. the site plan would have thrown a lot more light on d general planning.

Last line: Ur designer could use up less space and save u less money In Satisfying d brief

My contribution!
Re: Architects: What Is Wrong With This Preliminary Draft by oriakofe(m): 7:38am On Nov 25, 2016
ur kitchen and Dining are to small. u will end up messing up ur lobbies and sitting room with stuffs u were meant to keep away from public view. besides, no pantry too. tell him to extend the outer kitchen wall paralleled with the convinience wall for more space. u need a visito's toilet too. others are perfect. happy building!!!
Re: Architects: What Is Wrong With This Preliminary Draft by ikeonyeka(f): 7:43am On Nov 25, 2016
Like someone pointed out the dining n kitchen spaces are too small, the architect can increase d space by decreasing the offset just beside the dining. some of the Windows are not properly centered and he can create one or two Windows for proper cross ventilation.
From a Civil Engineer.
Re: Architects: What Is Wrong With This Preliminary Draft by shedy03(m): 7:46am On Nov 25, 2016
ThePortlander:
tell me the length of both sides .

Instead of wasting your land ,you should build 3 storey 7 bedroom house which will also contain library and office and two more rooms at the topmost floor . That's the new trend. Imagine having your own home office and a library and even game room .
nice. such a home could be be automated to achieve better energy savings, comfort and home protection/security.
Re: Architects: What Is Wrong With This Preliminary Draft by shedy03(m): 7:52am On Nov 25, 2016
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Re: Architects: What Is Wrong With This Preliminary Draft by saydfact(m): 7:53am On Nov 25, 2016
Adaowerri111:
I got this draft from my architect asking me to make corrections where needed, as a layman or with me not being too good with structures I'm bringing it here for the professionals to examine, if there's any defect solutions are welcome, thanks

well, first i like optimizing spaces, achieving the most with as little as possible - shape is also very important, the more complex, the more costly (that depends on what you are ready to spend)

finally, the services (toilets) can be better arranged to minimize cost of piping....

I also feel 2 entrances are OK..... for any bungalow.
Re: Architects: What Is Wrong With This Preliminary Draft by Nobody: 7:55am On Nov 25, 2016
Personally I don't think ,this plan was designed by an Architect, maybe a draughtswoman did.
Re: Architects: What Is Wrong With This Preliminary Draft by victorazy(m): 7:59am On Nov 25, 2016
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(1) You didn't manage the space well, enough space wasted.

(2) Is not advisable to have another entrace into room from outside, u would have make the room BQ and disassociate it from the other rooms for security purpose. And someone can be sneaking out for illicit parol.

(3) Kitchen didn't have exit door why? Plz is necessary bcuz some things are not good to pass through sitting room when u have visitors around.

(4) Is advisable to have Master room at the front. Etc
Anyway u try!

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Re: Architects: What Is Wrong With This Preliminary Draft by Nobody: 8:03am On Nov 25, 2016
A lot of loopholes there,that's the reason, you pay for consultation fee.Lol.

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Re: Architects: What Is Wrong With This Preliminary Draft by saydfact(m): 8:04am On Nov 25, 2016
Adaowerri111:
I got this draft from my architect asking me to make corrections where needed, as a layman or with me not being too good with structures I'm bringing it here for the professionals to examine, if there's any defect solutions are welcome, thanks

finally, for all the spaced used, you have a dinning and kitchen space that cannot service the house...... size too small, i guess its about 2.7 by 2.1 that or less.
Re: Architects: What Is Wrong With This Preliminary Draft by ogtavia(m): 8:22am On Nov 25, 2016
Adaowerri111:
I got this draft from my architect asking me to make corrections where needed, as a layman or with me not being too good with structures I'm bringing it here for the professionals to examine, if there's any defect solutions are welcome, thanks
Oga...dis ur architect's work get as e be...probably because of the brief u gave him..at any rate...spatial relationship between spaces seem fair enough...however..ur dining is small...there are some spaces that could be better than they are...I know it's a draft anyway...if u leave it this way...ur roof will be interesting with this shape...ur budget is the main reason whether u will go on with this or not..

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Re: Architects: What Is Wrong With This Preliminary Draft by castrokins(m): 8:24am On Nov 25, 2016
I Like This. How Much Will Achieve This, Sir?


ThePortlander:
tell me the length of both sides .

Instead of wasting your land ,you should build 3 storey 7 bedroom house which will also contain library and office and two more rooms at the topmost floor . That's the new trend. Imagine having your own home office and a library and even game room .
Re: Architects: What Is Wrong With This Preliminary Draft by teechedah: 8:32am On Nov 25, 2016
Hello OP,
To be candid, alot of things are wrong with this design.The dinning and lounge are quite small, alot of waste on the lobby and there is no cross ventilation in some room What is the essence of that door leading to the room by the left?.Try telling him to re-design for you.Something doesnt just look right with the design.
Re: Architects: What Is Wrong With This Preliminary Draft by Amobuilt(m): 8:35am On Nov 25, 2016
Thd Architect tried but i have some advice for him. 1. The master bedroom should not be behind. i mean hidden. 2. He wasted much spaces by creating irrelevant lobby. 3. The visitor's bedroom is too far from other bedrooms. 4. The courtyard behind the lounge is a waste of land. 4. The front view of the house will not be aesthetic enough Arc. Amos C.C. Akalia (08037499205) from Awka
Re: Architects: What Is Wrong With This Preliminary Draft by Truefederalism(m): 8:43am On Nov 25, 2016
That thing is not an architectural drawing. That design could not have been done by an architect.

Get an architect, and you will not be asking these questions here. An architect does not give room for excuses.

Look for an architect, give him your brief, give him your survey plan, pay him well, and he will give you the best. This is what we are trained to do.

...and by the way, if you insult a registered architect this way, you will end up in court.

Ride on with your draughtsman, but please don't call him an architect again!

You people should stop insulting architects.

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Re: Architects: What Is Wrong With This Preliminary Draft by Margy: 8:47am On Nov 25, 2016
They first and second option is a mess..You are the reason why we have substandard buildings allover..Go for consultation from a professional, una no go gri..please, my advice is gonna start from
The spatial arrangement
There are standards upon which you should use as a basics. Lobby is a flaw, too long, the spaces are not correlated, too many doors, in fact there are standard dimensions for bedrooms, kitchen, toilet..please use them etc
The site
Please utilize this site properly, you mustn't design all over the site, did you forget to make provision for Septic tank/soak away? lay backs from the site boundary? how about other activities to take place in the site?
The building orientation
Bad orientation..ill suggest whosoever is designing this should REDESIGN!!!...this is not ARCHITECTURALLY PLEASING

...or better still seek a PROFESSIONAL ARCHITECT like us
Re: Architects: What Is Wrong With This Preliminary Draft by Truefederalism(m): 8:50am On Nov 25, 2016
Adaowerri111:



The size is about 70 by 80 ft

70x80 and that was all the draughtsman could muster? Mehn! I tire for una wey like to pay for ignorance and mediocrity o.
You may be forgiven sha if you do not know any good architect, but if you engaged this guy because of cost, you'all better enjoy the proceeds.

Architects sha, we haff suffer!
Re: Architects: What Is Wrong With This Preliminary Draft by KingsleyCEO: 8:51am On Nov 25, 2016
This is not my field nor my thing but i must say I'm very impressed with the kind of responses and suggestions i have read so far, this goes to show that we still got intelligent people in this murder fv*king country. God bless this M f**king country!
Re: Architects: What Is Wrong With This Preliminary Draft by Pr0peller: 8:59am On Nov 25, 2016
Ah don't tink an Architect drew dat. Lounge nd living room?. Now take a look @ d dining, its too small, den dat lobby @ d left beside dat room has no function @ all.
Re: Architects: What Is Wrong With This Preliminary Draft by General2COAS(m): 9:00am On Nov 25, 2016
Good morning 2 u this morning.

First of all PROFESSIONALISM come to play as am no Architect but an Engineer so when it comes to arch. design, i let them do their thing cos its their field b4 contributing.

as most professionals have said u need to put together their observations and advises on the sketch's shortcomings in line with ur budget cos budget is the baseline of every project.

wont say much cos colleagues have said most bt my little observation is attached below.

nota bene: Engage professionals in dz ur project and pay worthy professional fees then u wont regret it trust me.
Shalom.

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Re: Architects: What Is Wrong With This Preliminary Draft by stanflex222(f): 9:01am On Nov 25, 2016
Adaowerri111:
I got this draft from my architect asking me to make corrections where needed, as a layman or with me not being too good with structures I'm bringing it here for the professionals to examine, if there's any defect solutions are welcome, thanks
doors linking from dinning to kitchen missing, inappropriate positioning of doors, in fact plan still under design.
Re: Architects: What Is Wrong With This Preliminary Draft by tbright007(m): 9:28am On Nov 25, 2016
everything should just be replanned, the dining and kitchen can never work, what's that space behind the kitchen? a store not accessible from the kitchen? nah it doesn't work that way. verdict: it should all be replanned... too much un needed lobbies.
greater things could be done with that space
Re: Architects: What Is Wrong With This Preliminary Draft by abouzaid: 9:29am On Nov 25, 2016
Adaowerri111:



The size is about 70 by 80 ft
that's great, squarish plots are always better than those long and slender rectangular plots, continue with the modified plan, it's perfect
Re: Architects: What Is Wrong With This Preliminary Draft by shumuel(m): 9:32am On Nov 25, 2016
Adaowerri111:
I got this draft from my architect asking me to make corrections where needed, as a layman or with me not being too good with structures I'm bringing it here for the professionals to examine, if there's any defect solutions are welcome, thanks


Everything is wrong with it.
From land/space mismanagement to inapporaite placement.

Well i guess its an exam/test of some sort because it gave me headache just by viewing it, anyways here are my own view and corrections.

1. I can bring out 3 bedroom X 2 from that plan.

2. The room on the west wing should had been named Master bedroom if at all one should be named, because i believe master bedrooms are rooms having thier own Toilet and other luxury, but in this case 3 rooms have thier toilets, anyways the room on the westwing has more space and even a back door, just extend to the lobby.

3. The dinning should be switched with the kitchen, the kitchen needs the space behind the living room, and a window should also be placed on that wall for cross ventilation.

4. The first room on the east wing can also have its own toilet, just use the lobby inbetween it and the next room and move the doors of the Mb/r and the second room closer.

5. You can move the dinning to where the visitors toilet is and increase the kitchen, a visitiors toilet can be moved to the west wing, reduce the entrance space its too big.
Re: Architects: What Is Wrong With This Preliminary Draft by favouryemmy: 9:33am On Nov 25, 2016
Adaowerri111:
I got this draft from my architect asking me to make corrections where needed, as a layman or with me not being too good with structures I'm bringing it here for the professionals to examine, if there's any defect solutions are welcome, thanks

First of all, is the designer a real architect or a draughtsman? You need to ascertain that because many people parade themselves as architects nowadays when they never studied the course. I have heard several stories.

Second, the design that would suit you depends on your unique taste. If you cannot understand simple line drawings, ask the designer to do a 3-d for you so that you can have a clearer understanding of how the design would come out after construction.

Third, In my capacity as an architect, my observations are: The kitchen seems too small, the door to the store should be through the kitchen or accessible through the kitchen, too much area for lobby, kitchen does not have a verandah so it opens directly outside (this is wrong). What is the area of the land, and does the plan fit in with appropriate setbacks?

These are some of my reservations about the design.
Re: Architects: What Is Wrong With This Preliminary Draft by sade1994(f): 9:42am On Nov 25, 2016
Coz light can only travel maximum of 6m.. The lounge to the master bedroom and the other room is too long..
The lounge is not that useful To me... It can be redesigned and converted to anteroom or a private lounge for master bedroom.
Re: Architects: What Is Wrong With This Preliminary Draft by 222Martins(m): 9:43am On Nov 25, 2016
Adaowerri111:
I got this draft from my architect asking me to make corrections where needed, as a layman or with me not being too good with structures I'm bringing it here for the professionals to examine, if there's any defect solutions are welcome, thanks
Though, i am neither an engineer or architect; but given the climate and the epileptic power supply in Nigeria, two factors i don't joke with in my buildings are: Ventilation and Natural Lighting. These two are lacking in the plan you uploaded.

I saw your thread where you were asking about the estimate for fencing. If you are interested, i can hook you up with my engineer. He will present you a draft and if possible, an estimate for your project; so that you can compare. He's the one handling my projects in Owerri.
Re: Architects: What Is Wrong With This Preliminary Draft by KingRex1(m): 9:55am On Nov 25, 2016
An architect drew this?
Why is the lounge where it is and thers no anteroom?
Why's it that large and kitchen tiny?
What's that space behind the living room?
Why's the kitchen not linked to the store?

Its so flawed

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