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| Re: A Response To Hardmirror's Post About Converting To Atheism by Intrepid01(m): 9:53am On Dec 04, 2016 |
michlan:Wow bro I totally believe with what you have written up there....both the seen and unseen part of it. Pls bros, how can I have this kind of relationship with God. I am a logical and spiritual person. I don't believe things on face value,but from my little experience (as a baby xtian) that God is more real than we can imagine and he does not owe anybody explanation. How can I know him beyond the ordinary, without distraction? His words (bible) carry supernatural power, I have experienced a bit of it...How can I av it's revelation and understanding power ? I think God and his ways is something worth knowing and understanding ....... |
| Re: A Response To Hardmirror's Post About Converting To Atheism by chrmn1: 10:55am On Dec 04, 2016 |
Intrepid01:just plan towards it. I'll recommend two books to you: 1. Listening Prayer by Mary Ruth Swope and 2. Three Mist important things in your life by Mike Murdock If you need more information, do let me know |
| Re: A Response To Hardmirror's Post About Converting To Atheism by tollyboy5(m): 11:02am On Dec 04, 2016 |
Intrepid01:use ur brain must u quote the whole epistle |
| Re: A Response To Hardmirror's Post About Converting To Atheism by tollyboy5(m): 11:17am On Dec 04, 2016 |
michlan:Bro I think you need to learn how to summarize thing you've just wasted a whole page with those quoting the whole epistle |
| Re: A Response To Hardmirror's Post About Converting To Atheism by tollyboy5(m): 11:20am On Dec 04, 2016 |
ammyluv2002:me self I tire O! |
| Re: A Response To Hardmirror's Post About Converting To Atheism by Intrepid01(m): 11:25am On Dec 04, 2016 |
chrmn1:Thanks brother |
| Re: A Response To Hardmirror's Post About Converting To Atheism by tollyboy5(m): 11:29am On Dec 04, 2016 |
hardmirror is on the right track because I'm a Muslim and I saw Quranic inscription on animal tree etc with other miracles does not mean islam is the true religion or because Buddha teachings are inspiring does not make it true all your testimonies are just mystical and not special people of other believe has greater testimony that does not prove anything don't be ignorant because of some mystic miracles learn what is real accept the truth all religion came from preexisting religion many of them goes back to Egyptian myth. in fact Egyptian gods are the most real because mysterious evidence of their myth are still existing even science can't explain them |
| Re: A Response To Hardmirror's Post About Converting To Atheism by Nobody: 11:35am On Dec 04, 2016 |
Intrepid01:To have a relationship with God is the easiest thing on earth only that we humans make it very complex. 2 things are required; humility and obedience. The reason why Atheists find it hard to get God is because they are proud of their "intelligence", they seek God proudly and the bible says in Prov 3:34 that He resists the proud hence they can not know Him but He gives grace to the humble and those of contrite heart. It is possible to ask God the same questions the atheists ask him and you will be surprised at how diligently He answers whereas they cannot get such answers because they are not seeking Him humbly. This is the major difference between Saul and David. The second issue is obedience. God never starts speaking to us in dramatic ways. Our obedience to the little things he commands us will increase the level of relationship. These include obedience to little instructions we read in our bible daily. The more we are faithful to those things, you will not be able to pin point when/how exactly the relationship has grown but it will be evident that it has grown. We only observe the growth when we sit down to take a retrospect of how far our relationship with Him has grown. Prayer, fasting, giving etc are spiritual exercises that we do naturally if we are obedient to God's word. I would have been ambiguous to start giving "7 keys" or steps to grow with God. Just stick with those 2 and see how amazed you will be at your growth. All other spiritual attributes stem from these. |
| Re: A Response To Hardmirror's Post About Converting To Atheism by Nobody: 11:37am On Dec 04, 2016 |
tollyboy5:I tried but found it hard to leave out most of the details there. |
| Re: A Response To Hardmirror's Post About Converting To Atheism by Intrepid01(m): 11:43am On Dec 04, 2016 |
michlan:Thank you sir....I appreciate |
| Re: A Response To Hardmirror's Post About Converting To Atheism by Nobody: 11:45am On Dec 04, 2016 |
tollyboy5:I'm satisfied with my bible because it gives perfect answers to all my questions. Why should I now deny it when it tells me about a need for my soul to be saved and it instructs me to share (not force) the "Good News" to others on how they can also be saved and I will be faithful to doing so. To convict others of the same belief is not my business, my own is to talk to them about it and pray for them as i'm commanded |
| Re: A Response To Hardmirror's Post About Converting To Atheism by tollyboy5(m): 11:58am On Dec 04, 2016 |
michlan:Lolz you replied like a good Christian brother I concur with you believe what works for you but that does not make religion to appear not real if you follow religion intellectually you would discover it flaws and were it originate from miracles ate nothing special as we live in a mysterious universe, people now give intellectual approach to religion but if you chose to follow religion with believe there is no problem ![]() |
| Re: A Response To Hardmirror's Post About Converting To Atheism by Nobody: 12:14pm On Dec 04, 2016 |
tollyboy5:Actually, i've never found any flaw/inaccuracy in the bible and i've read it over quite a number of times. Whenever I see somewhere that seems inaccurate to me, God gives me the part of scripture that gives me the answer i'm looking for and i'm always awed by how accurate the bible is. An example is if you just read Gen 1:1-2, one might not know that there are several other passages in the bible that detail events that happened in between those 2 verses hence making me to understand perfectly the action God took in subsequent verses |
| Re: A Response To Hardmirror's Post About Converting To Atheism by ScienceWatch: 2:24pm On Dec 04, 2016 |
Ayoolla:Excellent post ! I feel inspired. You guys are talking about sharing testimonies. That is the most powerful way to learn. Now we have no more excuse for our ignorance of how the spirit realm on both the dark side and the light side operate in human life, thanks to Emmanuel TV. It is frightening to hear all the personal testimonies of people that have suffered because of stepping into the dark side. Can one escape the vicious spiritual traps laid for millions of innocent people by fake pastors, competing religions, cruel governments and science, atheism/deism/ agnostism? Emmanuel TV provide the most scientifically verifiable evidence of the highest spiritual TRUTH to the world 24 HRS A DAY. Now you too can escape into true light. |
| Re: A Response To Hardmirror's Post About Converting To Atheism by ScienceWatch: 2:41pm On Dec 04, 2016 |
OLAFIMIX:Good Point made ! Testimonies are powerful evidence, even in a court of law. A great way to learn from peoples testimonies is as follows; Now we have no more excuse for our ignorance of how the spirit realm on both the dark side and the light side operate in human life, thanks to Emmanuel TV. It is frightening to hear all the personal testimonies of people that have suffered because of stepping into the dark side. Can one escape the vicious spiritual traps laid for millions of innocent people by fake pastors, competing religions, cruel governments and science, atheism/deism/ agnostism? Emmanuel TV provide the most scientifically verifiable evidence of the highest spiritual TRUTH to the world 24 HRS A DAY. Now you too can escape into true light. |
| Re: A Response To Hardmirror's Post About Converting To Atheism by ScienceWatch: 6:02pm On Dec 05, 2016 |
tollyboy5:One compelling reason Hardmirror is now denying Jesus Christ is that he was trained by FAKE pastors. Hardmirror never knew that Jesus gave direct advice on the matter of FALSE pastor Vs TRUE pastor. Hardmirror fell in the trap thousands of pastors have fallen into. That is, if you get your theoretical qualification you are now a pastor. That is a lie. To keep it simple - Hardmirror was trained by FAKE pastors so there was no way to get the awesome anointing of POWER that separates FAKE pastors from real pastors. Do not be fooled any longer, today there is too much evidence that is getting many fake pastors panic. Below is way Jesus Christ himself explain this problem; Here Jesus explains why all the miracles, prophecy, Signs and Wonders are an extremely important part of His Mission. Jesus says clearly in these biblical refs that the WORKS that He does bear witness that the Father has sent him. Joh 5:35 John was a burning and a shining light: and you were willing for a season to rejoice in his light. Joh 5:36 But I have greater witness than that of John: for the miracles/ WORKS which the Father has given me to finish, the same miracles/ WORKS that I do, bear witness for me, that the Father hath sent me. Joh 5:23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that does not honour the Son does not honour the Father who has sent him. Today, we are blessed to have the evidence of Jesus’ WORKS Biblically and scientifically verified in the Holy Scoan Church Nigeria and on Emmanuel TV. Only the WORKS bear witness of a real pastor, not their elaborate speeches, conferences and motivational speeches. Joh 14:12 Truly, Truly, I say to you, He that believes me, the miracles/ WORKS that I do will you also do; and greater (more) miracles/WORKS than these shall you do; because I must soon go unto my Father. Here Jesus Christ explains to all real pastors, ministers and evangelists that humbly want spiritual enlightenment and power; Joh 14:12 Truly, Truly, I say to you, He that believes me, the miracles/ WORKS that I do will you also do; and greater (more) miracles/WORKS than these shall you do; because I must soon go unto my Father. Today, we are blessed to have the evidence of Jesus’ WORKS Biblically and scientifically verified in the Holy Scoan Church Nigeria and on Emmanuel TV. A pastor, minister, evangelist will be know by their WORKS so that fake pastors can be separated from the real pastors. The wheat is separated from the chaff. Only the WORKS bear witness of a real pastor, not their elaborate speeches, conferences and motivational speeches. What are these WORKS that Jesus always refer to ? They are the miracles, prophecy, signs and wonders. Jesus also instructs all pastors, ministers, evangelists to do the same. Jesus says to them,”As my father sent me, so send I you.” [b]Now the world finally have a free education channel [/b]24 hours a day, seven days a week on Emmanuel TV demonstrating true scientifically verifiable evidence and deeper meaning of John 14:12 |
| Re: A Response To Hardmirror's Post About Converting To Atheism by ScienceWatch: 6:15pm On Dec 05, 2016 |
Intrepid01:Awesome post, Michlan. TB Joshua - breaking the vicious chains of false religion in the Holy Scoan Church Nigeria You make a very powerful observation concerning humans inability to understand the deepest spiritual knowledge of God that only Christ could teach, you state that, to quote your other post "To have a relationship with God is the easiest thing on earth only that we humans make it very complex." I have come to understand that all religions including most of so-called Christian leaders wrongly impart a theoretical understanding of God. While Christ came to rectify this serious weakness by freely giving awesome practical demonstrations of what the true worship of God must produce in fallen human life as witnessed 24 hrs daily on Emmanuel TV and youtube.com Through the mind-blowing demonstrations of Gods power and Love for all suffering Humanity, Christ proved that He is the only true Messiah firstly to his chosen and anointed ones. He never intended for pastors to become glorified motivational speakers without the WORKS (Miracle healing, Deliverance from evil spirits, etc.) Examine what Christ is saying about Himself and the miraculous WORKS. John 5:36 But I have a greater witness than that of John: for the WORKS which the Father hath given me to finish, the same WORKS that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me. What are these WORKS that Jesus always refer to ? They are the miracles, prophecy, signs and wonders. Jesus also instructs all pastors, ministers, evangelists to do the same, He says to them, ”As my father sent me, so send I you.” |
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