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Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by felixomor: 9:21am On Dec 16, 2016
hopefulLandlord:


hopefully, you'll brush up your knowledge a bit so that you can understand us better in the future, I know it isn't gonna be easy for you but give it a shot

Gerrarahia.
Deluded ones.

The person u were even trying to save has seen his goof and kept mute.

You, your pride will always cover ur eyes like POP.
Mscheww
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by dalaman: 9:22am On Dec 16, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Buddha never said he was an atheist . He was simply indifferent about gods . Atheism requires an explicit conscious rejection of gods and that is why Diagoras of Melos according to history is the first atheist .

Socrates was a deist . He condemned the gods worshiped by the larger society. Socrates subscribed to Telelogy and believed that god arranges everything for the best. Religious skepticism is inherent in deism . The same way Xenophanes is regarded as a deist - he criticized anthropomorphism of gods . Every deist ever known to history has been skeptical about the worship of gods .


Diagoras was the first person in Greko Roman culture to OPENLY show disbelief in the Gods. Remember it was a capital offence at that time so many hide their disbelief because they will be kills if they came out openly. Before him in India there were atheist atheist.

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Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by hopefulLandlord: 9:23am On Dec 16, 2016
felixomor:

Gerrarahia. Deluded ones.
The person u were even trying to save has seen his goof and kept mute.
You, your pride will always cover ur eyes like POP. Mscheww
he kept quiet because he detected you lack what it takes to understand him cool

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Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 9:23am On Dec 16, 2016
felixomor:


Good cool
So dont make noise, next time

Felix focus on people worth discussing with rather than those who dishonestly show puerility at every turn and jump into convos without first taking time to read from the beginning. Knowledge can only be given by someone who has one. They lack it in Truckloads.

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Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by felixomor: 9:24am On Dec 16, 2016
hopefulLandlord:


he kept quiet because he detected you lack what it takes to understand him cool

*Yinmu*
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by jonbellion(m): 9:24am On Dec 16, 2016
damogul:


Even on the thread by the atheist nihilistic grizlybear he called other atheists stupid for thinking life had any meaning. NOW THAT IS A TRUE ATHEIST. grin
lol
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by felixomor: 9:24am On Dec 16, 2016
damogul:


Felix focus on people worth discussing with rather than those who dishonestly show puerility at every turn and jump into convos without first taking time to read from the beginning. Knowledge can only be given by someone who has one. They lack it in Truckloads.

I hear you, brother.
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by dalaman: 9:24am On Dec 16, 2016
felixomor:


Life has no "meaning"
Yet u found meaning in urs abi?

So ur "concept of meaning" is your delusion.

Safe journey. grin

Where did I say that life has no meaning? Point it out you liar.
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 9:25am On Dec 16, 2016
dalaman:


Diagoras was the first person in Greko Roman culture to OPENLY show disbelief in the Gods. Remember it was a capital offence at that time so many hide their disbelief because they will be kills if they came out openly. Before him in India there were atheist atheist.

You attempt at giving strenght to atheism is silly to say the least. So he was the first to OPENLY declare atheism? Can you show me proof that others were in hiding?

Can you show me those in india who were atheists "openly" before him?
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:26am On Dec 16, 2016
dalaman:


Diagoras was the first person in Greko Roman culture to OPENLY show disbelief in the Gods. Remember it was a capital offence at that time so many hide their disbelief because they will be kills if they came out openly. Before him in India there were atheist atheist.

Exactly ! that is what atheism is . when you reject gods , it makes you an atheist .

That is why atheism is not the absence of belief in God .

Religion without deities is considered sometimes as a lifestyle in the ancient times . That's why Confucians can worship the supreme god of China Jared the Emperor and Buddhists can worship any random gods borrowed from other cultures . The same thing with Taoism .

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Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 9:27am On Dec 16, 2016
jonbellion:
lol

Did i lie? He was serious about his position about no meaning to life and saw no reason for love, no reason for marriage, no reason for children, no reason for the earth and ultimately no reason for life so wished death on humanity and total extinction.

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Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by dalaman: 9:27am On Dec 16, 2016
DoctorAlien:


grin grin grin grin grin grin

Of course. How can life have any meaning without the One who created it?

Even with God life has different meanings to various religious people. The meaning of life for a Hindu is different to that of a muslim and both of them believe in God. So you see even with the Gods that allegedly created life, life has no universal meaning.
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by hopefulLandlord: 9:29am On Dec 16, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Exactly ! that is what atheism is . when you reject gods , it makes you an atheist .

That is why atheism is not the absence of belief in God .

Religion without deities is considered sometimes as a lifestyle in the ancient times . That's why Confucians can worship the supreme god of China Jared the Emperor and Buddhists can worship any random gods borrowed from other cultures . The same thing with Taoism .

lack of belief in deities is atheism

narrower sense is rejection of all deities or saying they don't exist

all three holds true

attempt to remove one of them is simply pulling straws

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Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by dalaman: 9:30am On Dec 16, 2016
damogul:



You are being disingenuous! You admitted to some being nihilistic and one being right here on NL. What is the comparative statistical assessment of this based on the small number of atheists on NL?

Did I say all atheists are nihilistic ? We are talking statistics.

Will u say his reality is a false one?

So what if some people are nihilistic? Others believe in destroying humanity for their God.
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by felixomor: 9:30am On Dec 16, 2016
dalaman:


Where did I say that life has no meaning? Point it out you liar.

Na u be liar o grin

dalaman:


I derive meaning from various things for my life. Different things give me meaning and shape my life. As I said life has NO universal meaning . We all.pick and chose what ever it is we want to give us meaning and purpose.

Even another apetheist helped u to reinforce it.

hopefulLandlord:


you no get point

he's already told you life itself has NO meaning

we give it the meaning we desire

U r the liar bro.
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by hopefulLandlord: 9:32am On Dec 16, 2016
felixomor:

Na u be liar o grin


Even another apetheist helped u to reinforce it.


U r the liar bro.

perfect way to ignore the word "Universal"
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 9:32am On Dec 16, 2016
dalaman:


Even with God life has different meanings to various religious people. The meaning of life for a Hindu is different to that of a muslim and both of them believe in God. So you see even with the Gods that allegedly created life, life has no universal meaning.

With God or the gods of other religious people the meaning is one...PURPOSE! and this PURPOSE breeds DESIRE and DISCOVERY.

You on the other hand who is godless and do not believe God or gods exist are simply making up meaning as you go so to you there is no one meaning to life as the one you hold on to today can become meaningless tomorrow as you evolve as an atheist.

The Alpha atheist is the one who has fully embraced nihilism and you are yet to get to the level.

Everytime we talk about meaning in life you always use the religious to offer examples why can you not use your position as an atheist to offer meaning to your own life.

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Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by dalaman: 9:33am On Dec 16, 2016
DoctorAlien:
This not so much about the meaning of life: this is about the fact that atheism ====> nihilism.

A true atheist is a nihilist because there is absolutely no reason not to be one.

A true christian is a mindless zombie and absolutely has no reason not to be one.

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Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by felixomor: 9:34am On Dec 16, 2016
hopefulLandlord:



perfect way to ignore the word "Universal"

The last time i checked universal means "generally"
And general is more correct than "personal".

See how u r dancing ajasco now?
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by akintom(m): 9:34am On Dec 16, 2016
The mentally infirmed bigots who once vowed on the life of their Jewish doG, not to ever quote me again, have broken their vows.

This is in conformity with their mentally unstable nature, as inflicted on them by their religious beliefs.

What shall i possibly say to folks -

*who don't understand simple English,
*revel in anachronistic ideas
*talk to themselves (grand delusion)
*hear voices (hallucinations)
*cling to blind faith, against and without reason.

They certainly don't deserve my quoting them. They belong to the variants that will eat grass, drink dettol and commit murder in the name of the Jewish doG.
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 9:35am On Dec 16, 2016
dalaman:


So what if some people are nihilistic? Others believe in destroying humanity for their God.

If others believe in destroying humanity for their God which in this case i believe ISLAM is your focus then why not focus on that since you feel its repulsive.

However even they still hold meaning to life but a nihilist sees nothing in nothing so does not believe in anything as meaningful since his own life was an accident of nature. I quote grizlybear

"I wish i was not born because my life was by chance. Chance brought me here so what then is the purpose to my life?"

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Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by hopefulLandlord: 9:36am On Dec 16, 2016
felixomor:

The last time i checked universal means "generally" And general is more correct than "personal".
See how u r dancing ajasco now?
sorry, I forgot it was still you
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:36am On Dec 16, 2016
hopefulLandlord:


lack of belief in deities is atheism

narrower sense is rejection of all deities or saying they don't exist

all three holds true

attempt to remove one of them is simply pulling straws

Then why is Diagoras considered the first atheist in History BECAUSE HE WAS EXPLICIT about his rejection of God . Being without gods does not make you an atheist . The deists too were described as those without gods because they rejected the worship of god by the larger society .

If you study history of the Greeks, the deists were mistaken for atheists .

Implicit atheism has been criticized by intellectuals as false . Having no knowledge of gods does not make you an atheist , having no belief in God does not make you an atheist but explicitly and consciously rejecting gods makes you an atheist . That means if you know of gods and declare within yourself that you don't believe they exists , then you are an atheist .

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Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by felixomor: 9:37am On Dec 16, 2016
hopefulLandlord:


sorry, I forgot it was still you

Oh, so amnesia is also part of your problems?

Eiya, sorry
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by dalaman: 9:39am On Dec 16, 2016
damogul:


With God or the gods of other religious people the meaning is one...PURPOSE! and this PURPOSE breeds DESIRE and DISCOVER.

You on the other hand who is godless and do not believe God or gods exist are simply making up meaning as you go so to you there is no one meaning to life as the one you hold on to today can become meaningless tomorrow as you evolve as an atheist.

The Alpha atheist is the one who has fully embraced nihilism and you are yet to get to the level.

Everytime we talk about meaning in life you always use the religious to offer examples why can you not use your position as an atheist to offer meaning to your own life.

The fact remains life's meaning is what ever you chose to make of it. I noticed that you are pained dyer your lies about aheism and nihilism have been debunked. You have now resorted to an alpha atheist is a nihilist bla bla bla. You clearly do not know what you are talking about. I do not use the religious to talk about the meaning of life . I only use the religious to show that life has various meanings to different reli6groups and doesn't have a universal meaning as some religious people falsely claim.

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Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 9:40am On Dec 16, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Then why is Diagoras considered the first atheist in History BECAUSE HE WAS EXPLICIT about his rejection of God . Being without gods does not make you an atheist . The deists too were described as those without gods because they rejected the worship of god by the larger society .

If you study history of the Greeks, the deists were mistaken for atheists .

Implicit atheism has been criticized by intellectuals as false . Having no knowledge of gods does not make you an atheist , having no belief in God does not make you an atheist but explicitly and consciously rejecting gods makes you an atheist . That means if you know of gods and declare within yourself that you don't believe they exists , then you are an atheist .


Very clear and very simple.

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Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by DoctorAlien(m): 9:40am On Dec 16, 2016
dalaman:


Even with God life has different meanings to various religious people. The meaning of life for a Hindu is different to that of a muslim and both of them believe in God. So you see even with the Gods that allegedly created life, life has no universal meaning.

I will now show you that life has a universal meaning.

1. Why is life existing? If you can provide no answer, it means you agree that there is no purpose for life, and that there is no purpose for living. Therefore being alive is a waste of time.

But we are alive. And it follows that no human being, as a rule, engages in what he truly knows is a waste of time/of no purpose or benefit.

Therefore the universal meaning of life consists in actively trying to prove that one is not alive for no reason. In other words, we are alive to show that we are not alive for no reason, as atheists/nihilists claim.

But life has no meaning without GOD. Therefore we are alive to worship GOD.

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Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by hopefulLandlord: 9:41am On Dec 16, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Then why is Diagoras considered the first atheist in History BECAUSE HE WAS EXPLICIT about his rejection of God . Being without gods does not make you an atheist . The deists too were described as those without gods because they rejected the worship of god by the larger society .

If you study history of the Greeks, the deists were mistaken for atheists .

Implicit atheism has been criticized by intellectuals as false . Having no knowledge of gods does not make you an atheist , having no belief in God does not make you an atheist but explicitly and consciously rejecting gods makes you an atheist . That means if you know of gods and declare within yourself that you don't believe they exists , then you are an atheist .

stop this mental gymnastics brother, its not good for your health

atheism is

1 lack of belief in deities

2 rejection of deities

3 proclaiming no deities exist

"Diagoras didn't drink garri, so every atheist that drinks garri is not a true atheist"


I don’t agree with this style of arguing because you have replaced it with argument from authority.
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 9:42am On Dec 16, 2016
dalaman:


The fact remains life's meaning is what ever you chose to make of it. I noticed that you are pained dyer your lies about aheism and nihilism have been debunked. You have now resorted to an alpha atheist is a nihilist bla bla bla. You clearly do not know what you are talking about. I do not use the religious to talk about the meaning of life . I only use the religious to show that life has various meanings to different reli6groups and doesn't have a universal meaning as some religious people falsely claim.


You really do know how to flatter yourself. Why not use atheism to discuss the meaning of life rather than running to the religious to make an example. Why not use atheists to make examples?

Have you ever heard of the 52 most notorious atheists in history?
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by dalaman: 9:42am On Dec 16, 2016
damogul:


If others believe in destroying humanity for their God which in this case i believe ISLAM is your focus then why not focus on that since you feel its repulsive.

However even they still hold meaning to life but a nihilist sees nothing in nothing so does not believe in anything as meaningful since his own life was an accident of nature. I quote grizlybear

"I wish i was not born because my life was by chance. Chance brought me here so what then is the purpose to my life?"

That remains hos opinion and his alone. Most other atheist do not subscribe to that philosophy. I don't know why you are pained by that.
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 9:43am On Dec 16, 2016
dalaman:


That remains hos opinion and his alone. Most other atheist do not subscribe to that philosophy. I don't know why you are pained by that.

And i asked you earlier which you kept dodging. IS HIS REALITY A FALSE ONE?
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by felixomor: 9:44am On Dec 16, 2016
Some people keep singing that life's meaning is subjective yet they cant even categorically state the meaning of their own lives.

Busy giving examples of religious people.
The same religion this thread was created to ridicule.

Obviously, something is missing.
Something is wrong.

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