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Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 9:46am On Dec 16, 2016
Dalaman is grizlybears reality a false one?
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by dalaman: 9:46am On Dec 16, 2016
damogul:



You really do know how to flatter yourself. Why not use atheism to discuss the meaning of life rather than running to the religious to make an example. Why not use atheists to make examples?

Have you ever heard of the 52 most notorious atheists in history?

I am not talking about meaning of life but showing that the meaning of life varies and isn't universal that is why I used religion to prove my point.

What is the difference between the notorious atheist in history and your biblical prophets what went about with your murderous God killing and anhilating others in your bible. What is the difference between Moa and Josh or Moses in the bible? All were genocidal psycophats who went about killing people en mass.
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:46am On Dec 16, 2016
hopefulLandlord:


stop this mental gymnastics brother, its not good for your health

atheism is

1 lack of belief in deities

2 rejection of deities

3 proclaiming no deities exist

"Diagoras didn't drink garri, so every atheist that drinks garri is not a true"


I don’t agree with this style of arguing because you have replaced it with argument from authority.

Implicit atheism is NOT atheism . Baron d'Holbach started this whole ignorant BS after he declared that babies are atheist because they have no idea of God and George Smith now coined the term implicit atheism and defined it as the absence or lack of belief in God .

Please read here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Implicit_and_explicit_atheism

Explicit atheism has been accepted as the real atheism

People who have no knowledge of gods and lack the belief in gods ARE NOT ATHEISTS . They are NON-THEISTS . They have to be given another name NOT atheists .
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by dalaman: 9:47am On Dec 16, 2016
damogul:
Dalaman is grizlybears reality a false one?
Yes it is.
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 9:48am On Dec 16, 2016
dalaman:


I am not talking about meaning of life but showing that the meaning of life varies and isn't universal that is why I used religion to prove my point.

What is the difference between the notorious atheist in history and your biblical prophets what went about with your murderous God killing and anhilating others in your bible. What is the difference between Moa and Josh or Moses in the bible? All were genocidal psycophats who went about killing people en mass.

You keep using religion to offer examples. Are atheists not supposed to be many? Can you not use their worldview to support your argument? Answer my question about grizlybears reality. IS IT A FALSE ONE?
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by hopefulLandlord: 9:48am On Dec 16, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Implicit atheism is NOT atheism . Baron d'Holbach started this whole ignorant BS after he declared that babies are atheist because they have no idea of God and George Smith now coined the term implicit atheism and defined it as the absence or lack of belief in God .

Please read here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Implicit_and_explicit_atheism

Explicit atheism has been accepted as the real atheism

People who have no knowledge of gods and lack the belief in gods ARE NOT ATHEISTS . They are NON-THEISTS . They have to be given another name NOT atheists .


another appeal to Baron d'Holbach

stop this mental gymnastics brother, its not good for your health

atheism is

1 lack of belief in deities

2 rejection of deities

3 proclaiming no deities exist

I know you desperately wish the first one away but it's a fruitless adventure
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by DoctorAlien(m): 9:49am On Dec 16, 2016
dalaman:


A true christian is a mindless zombie and absolutely has no reason not to be one.

Don't tell me I'm conversing with a kid. You don't act peurile by throwing tantrums and ad hominems and mockeries when you have no solid, logical rebuttal to an argument.

Keeping quiet accords you much more dignity.
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by felixomor: 9:49am On Dec 16, 2016
damogul:
Dalaman is grizlybears reality a false one?

He has already cornered himself into a contradiction.

That question will only knock him out.
GrizzlyBear is even ahead of him.
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by orunto27: 9:49am On Dec 16, 2016
Thanks for this Brain Storm. Religion is not an Illusion. It's History made real in Dreams, Actions, Interactions, Movements, Feelings, Thinking, Reasonings and Writings of Humans including you. The way we Relate to our IMAGINATIONS, THE UNSEEN SPIRIT THAT MAKES US LIVE IS CALLED RELIGION. When we align and compare our imaginations with others and find holes suitable to accommodate ours, we stay put. In this way, we become any of Christians, Muslims, Moslems, The Faithfuls, Islamists, Jewish-Judaisms etc. That's to say, Religion is IMAGINATIONS(Illusions) made real. It's a Discovery in Spirit and an Invention of Humans.
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by dalaman: 9:50am On Dec 16, 2016
felixomor:


Na u be liar o grin



Even another apetheist helped u to reinforce it.



U r the liar bro.

Life has no universal meaning is what I said. I did not say that life has no meaning. By universal meaning I mean life has no universally accepted meaning. The meaning of.life to a christian is very different to that of a muslims and that is also different to that of a Hindu or Taoist. Life has no universal meaning Isn't the same as life has no meaning. I Clearly stated that life has meaning and the meaning is what we hose to make of it. You remain a liar.

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Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by Edenoscar(m): 9:51am On Dec 16, 2016
damogul:


If others believe in destroying humanity for their God which in this case i believe ISLAM is your focus then why not focus on that since you feel its repulsive.

However even they still hold meaning to life but a nihilist sees nothing in nothing so does not believe in anything as meaningful since his own life was an accident of nature. I quote grizlybear

"I wish i was not born because my life was by chance. Chance brought me here so what then is the purpose to my life?"

What is the purpose of the universe?
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by dalaman: 9:52am On Dec 16, 2016
DoctorAlien:


Don't tell me I'm conversing with a kid. You don't act peurile by throwing tantrums and ad hominems and mockeries when you have no solid, logical rebuttal to an argument.

Keeping quiet accords you much more dignity.

A chistian is a mindless and indoctrinated zombie and has no reason not to be one.
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by hopefulLandlord: 9:52am On Dec 16, 2016
orunto27:
Thanks for this Brain Storm. Religion is not an Illusion. It's History made real in Dreams, Actions, Interactions, Movements, Feelings, Thinking, Reasonings and Writings of Humans including you. The way we Relate to our IMAGINATIONS, THE UNSEEN SPIRIT THAT MAKES US LIVE IS CALLED RELIGION. When we align and compare our imaginations with others and find holes suitable to accommodate ours, we stay put. In this way, we become any of Christians, Muslims, Moslems, The Faithfuls, Islamists, Jewish-Judaisms etc. That's to say, Religion is IMAGINATIONS(Illusions) made real. It's a Discovery in Spirit and an Invention of Humans.

"IMAGINATIONS, THE UNSEEN SPIRIT THAT MAKES US LIVE IS CALLED RELIGION."

all atheists should be dead then
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 9:53am On Dec 16, 2016
dalaman:

Yes it is.

So you say Grizlybears belief that life is meaningless is a false one? Do you believe in Creation?
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by hopefulLandlord: 9:54am On Dec 16, 2016
felixomor

no hard feelings bro

its just that's what you do most times (hang on to a typo, a missed word, a lacuna) and I wanted to give you a little taste of your medicine

we are good, at least from my end
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by felixomor: 9:54am On Dec 16, 2016
dalaman:


Life has no universal meaning is what I said. I did not say that life has no meaning
. By universal meaning I mean life has no universally accepted meaning. The meaning of.life to a christian is very different to that of a muslims and that is also different to that of a Hindu or Taoist. Life has no universal meaning Isn't the same as life has no meaning. I Clearly stated that life has meaning and the meaning is what we hose to make of it. You remain a liar.

Life has no universal meaning is the same thing as life has no meaning.

Throwing "liar" ad hominems around wont hide you..

Besides u keep giving religious examples.
I wonder.

Have u forgotten the title of this thread?
Or u really have a grammar problem.
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 9:55am On Dec 16, 2016
Dalaman do you believe in creation?
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by dalaman: 9:56am On Dec 16, 2016
felixomor:


Life has no universal meaning is the same thing as life has no meaning.

Throwing "liar" ad hominems around wont hide you..

Besides u keep giving religious examples.
I wonder.

Have u forgotten the title of this thread?
Or u really have a grammar problem.

It is a lie they are not the same thing. Life has no universal meaning. If it does tell me the universally accepted meaning of life. Life has individual meaning but it doesn't have a universal acceptable meaning. You remain a liar until you some that the universal meaning of life is and how it is universally accepted.
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by Edenoscar(m): 9:57am On Dec 16, 2016
Why do we fear nothingness?
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 9:57am On Dec 16, 2016
Dalaman you believe that God does not exist but do you believe in Creation?
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by dalaman: 9:58am On Dec 16, 2016
damogul:


So you say Grizlybears belief that life is meaningless is a false one? Do you believe in Creation?

It is because obviously meaning can be drawn from life. I do not believe in religious creationism.
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 9:59am On Dec 16, 2016
dalaman:


It is a lie they are not the same thing. Life has no universal meaning. If it does tell me the universally accepted meaning of life. Life has individual meaning but it doesn't have a universal acceptable meaning. You remain a liar until you some that the universal meaning of life is and how it is universally accepted.

If you say life has an individual meaning why then did you say Grizlybears meaning to life is a false one? Do you know why i aasked you about the 52 infamous atheists alongside?

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Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 9:59am On Dec 16, 2016
dalaman:


It is because obviously meaning can be drawn from life. I do not believe in religious creationism.

Ok what creationism do you believe in?
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by DoctorAlien(m): 9:59am On Dec 16, 2016
These are the words of a true atheist:

"I wish i was not born because my life was by chance. Chance brought me here so what then is the purpose to my life?"

grin grin grin grin grin

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Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by felixomor: 10:00am On Dec 16, 2016
dalaman:


It is a lie they are not the same thing. Life has no universal meaning. If it does tell me the universally accepted meaning of life. Life has individual meaning but it doesn't have a universal acceptable meaning. You remain a liar until you some that the universal meaning of life is and how it is universally accepted.

Oh so if its now a case of universally accepted,

So also i can as well say that the fact that u dont universally accept my Jesus Christ doesnt mean He is not the saviour of the world.
#Truth

We are good, abi.
cool

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Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 10:01am On Dec 16, 2016
Dalaman since you do not believe in RELIGIOUS creationism what creationism do you believe in?
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by hopefulLandlord: 10:02am On Dec 16, 2016
Edenoscar:
Why do we fear nothingness?
the possible reality that this might be the only life we'll live is just too painful for many humans to dare think about

this lead to creating some mythical afterlife where "you'll meet and part no more" and live in eternal bliss
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by dalaman: 10:02am On Dec 16, 2016
damogul:
Dalaman you believe that God does not exist but do you believe in Creation?

I don not believe in religious creationism.
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:03am On Dec 16, 2016
damogul:


[b]If you say life has an individual meaning why then did you say Grizlybears meaning to life is a false one?[b]

You just boxed uncle dalaman into an inextricable corner .

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Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 10:03am On Dec 16, 2016
dalaman:


I don not believe in religious creationism.

So you believe in EVOLUTION or what?
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by felixomor: 10:04am On Dec 16, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


You just boxed uncle dalaman into an inextricable corner .

Lol.
Ad hominem is the only way out
Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 10:05am On Dec 16, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


You just boxed uncle dalaman into an inextricable corner .

They say theists are dumb, We shall see.

In furtherance to this dalaman since life has individual meanings yet you say grizlybears individual meaning to his life is a false one can i also say your individual meaning to life is a false one?

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