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Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 8:21pm On Dec 17, 2016
randomperson:
the other man survived inside a dead whale, hence no digestion. so show that a man can survive for three days inside a whale that is still alive
I suggest you research a whales digestive system functionality. Do you know that a whales stomach is 5 to 10 times the size of man? I gave that empty head an assignment which he lied about doing perhaps you can be truthful in yours.
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 8:22pm On Dec 17, 2016
damogul:
That research is for you to do. I guess you must be the one thats stark raving mad. You said you did your own research so provide it. I have given you a little snippet that i actually did mine. So show me a snippet of yours.
You just made things up by lying. You stated things that are not true. Show me the Ichthyologists that told you the nonsense you wrote.
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 8:25pm On Dec 17, 2016
damogul:
Then you are a bonafide idiot if after all this i have shown you, you still wish to tag me a liar then shame on you for being the irrational empty head you truly are.
What did you show me? You showed me a story of how a.person that was swallowed by a whale was rescued later on when the digestive juices of the whale had already started acting on him we while he wasn't dead which was contrary to everything you wrote.
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 8:27pm On Dec 17, 2016
dalaman:
You just made things up by lying. You stated things that are not true. Show me the Ichthyologists that told you the nonsense you wrote.
I do not feel i need to engage an irrational empty headed idiot who suddenly looses any sense of intelligence when it comes to proof and research. I am done with you. You are a waste of intelligent discussion. All you do is make claims with no backing and shout liar liar everywhere with nothing to show when indeed you were the actual liar.

Please do not quote me again. If you cannot carry out a simple research and would rather lie so disturbingly arrogantly it shows how much integrity you carry around. You lie at every turn and accuse the truthful of lies.

Very shameful. I actually gave you my attention thinking this would be a sensible discussion but alas, having a conversation with my kid would have been loads more profitable.
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:28pm On Dec 17, 2016
dalaman:
What did you show me? You showed me a story of how a.person that was swallowed by a whale was rescued later on when the digestive juices of the whale had already started acting on him we while he wasn't dead which was contrary to everything you wrote.
Na wa oo

God made a big fish to swallow Jonah . Isn't God powerful enough to keep Jonah alive for as long as he wants in the big fish huh What makes Him a SUPERnatural being then huh

How this is even an issue is beyond me undecided
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by randomperson: 8:28pm On Dec 17, 2016
damogul:
I suggest you research a whales digestive system functionality. Do you know that a whales stomach is 5 to 10 times the size of man? I gave that empty head an assignment which he lied about doing perhaps you can be truthful in yours.
what about the digestive enzymes inside the whale .. they start corroding your skin immediately. and the whale has four stomachs and there is no oxygen there only methane..
am not even a scientist, am just googling these things as I go along and the more I google, the more I disbelieve story
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 8:29pm On Dec 17, 2016
cc seun when a nairalander calls one a liar without proof and cannot show how and when such a one lied then that is false info. You can ban me for calling him an irrational idiot since he repeatedly called me a liar without proof. The choice is yours.
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 8:32pm On Dec 17, 2016
felixomor:
Which scriptures was it talking about?
Even muslims know this.
You can only pretend for a short time.
I don't know. It's can't be the bible. Because the Koran says it is corrupted.
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 8:33pm On Dec 17, 2016
damogul:
cc seun when a nairalander calls one a liar without proof and cannot show how and when such a one lied then that is false info. You can ban me for calling him an irrational idiot since he repeatedly called me a liar without proof. The choice is yours.
You've failed to show the ichthyologists that told.you the things you stated isn't that lying?
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 8:33pm On Dec 17, 2016
James Bartley never made another trip to the sea and settled down to shore life as a cobbler in his native city of Gloucester, England. He died eighteen years after his remarkable survival and terrifying adventure.
On his tombstone in the churchyard at Gloucester is a brief account of his experience at sea and a footnote, which says: James Bartley -1870-1909 - A Modem Jonah.
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 8:34pm On Dec 17, 2016
The records of the British Admiralty testify that James Bartley, an apprentice seaman on a whaler, was swallowed by a whale in February, 1891, some two hundred miles east of the Falkland Islands in the South Atlantic. He survived the ordeal
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 8:35pm On Dec 17, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
Na wa oo

God made a big fish to swallow Jonah . Isn't God powerful enough to keep Jonah alive for as long as he wants in the big fish huh What makes Him a SUPERnatural being then huh

How this is even an issue is beyond me undecided
He knows that he lied. He said when a whale swallows a prey it's digestive juices don't kick in until the prey is dead. Something that his own story proved to be false.
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 8:35pm On Dec 17, 2016
Bartley said that as he was cast into the water from the long boat he saw a tremendous mouth open over him and he screamed as he was engulfed by it. He then felt sharp stabbing pains as he was swept across the teeth and then slid feet first down a slimy tube that carried him to the whale's stomach. He could breath, but the hot, fetid odor soon rendered him unconscious and the last thing he remembers was kicking as hard as he could at the soft, yielding stomach. Finally, he lapsed into unconsciousness until he again came to his senses almost a month later.
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 8:37pm On Dec 17, 2016
damogul:
The records of the British Admiralty testify that James Bartley, an apprentice seaman on a whaler, was swallowed by a whale in February, 1891, some two hundred miles east of the Falkland Islands in the South Atlantic. He survived the ordeal
He survived it but was he whole? He was blind with bleached skin as a result of the encounter. If he was left to stay there for a day he would have died.
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 8:37pm On Dec 17, 2016
Late that night, working by lantern-light, the tired crewmen removed the stomach of the whale and slowly winched it to the deck for flensing. They were startled to notice movement inside the large sack, movement that looked like something living and breathing. The captain called the ship's doctor who made an incision in the tough flesh. And out slid the doubled up missing sailor, James Bartley, as if he were suffering from severe stomach cramps. He was alive, but unconscious.
The doctor ordered Bartley drenched with sea water, a treatment which restored his consciousness but not his reason, for he babbled incoherently.
Confined to a cabin for several weeks and bound so he could not injure himself in his wild flounderings, Bartley gradually regained his senses. Within a month he was able to relate what had happened to him in his terrifying experience.
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by randomperson: 8:39pm On Dec 17, 2016
OMG... Damogul u have got to see this. that story u posted was actually fiction... http://www.salon.com/2012/01/15/swallowed_by_a_whale_a_true_tale/ ... u gotta love Google right!
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 8:42pm On Dec 17, 2016
randomperson:
OMG... Damogul u have got to see this. that story u posted was actually fiction... http://www.salon.com/2012/01/15/swallowed_by_a_whale_a_true_tale/ ... u gotta love Google right!
I suspected it was fiction as well. Just did a Google search on it as well but you first me to it. Damogul the story just like that of Jonah is fictitious. Try again next time.
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:43pm On Dec 17, 2016
randomperson:
OMG... Damogul u have got to see this. that story u posted was actually fiction... http://www.salon.com/2012/01/15/swallowed_by_a_whale_a_true_tale/ ... u gotta love Google right!
Dude , you didnt ask if the site is credible or not .

It is a blog so the author can write anything he feels .

The same way I can declare the story true on my blog
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 8:46pm On Dec 17, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
Dude , you didnt ask if the site is credible or not .

It is a blog so the author can write anything he feels .

The same way I can declare the story true on my blog
Salon is a blog? Please look up salon.com. it is a very credible news site just like thisday or punch newspaper in Nigeria. I repeat salon is a very credible news outlet in the USA.
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 8:46pm On Dec 17, 2016
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 8:48pm On Dec 17, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
Dude , you didnt ask if the site is credible or not .

It is a blog so the author can write anything he feels .

The same way I can declare the story true on my blog
He is using a blog to dispute truth. Something that is registered with the British Admiralty and found on the headstone of the sailor.
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 8:52pm On Dec 17, 2016
I suppose www.smithsonianmag.com is not credible right?
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by randomperson: 8:53pm On Dec 17, 2016
damogul:
He is using a blog to dispute truth. Something that is registered with the British Admiralty and found on the headstone of the sailor.
this is an excerpt from another site.
Research, particularly bya Bible-believing professor named EdwardDavis (http://asa.calvin.edu:80/asa/pscf.html| 19:53:53 Mar 16, 2003), ultimately shows beyond a reasonable doubt that the story is a hoax. Too many aspects of the story do not stand up to scrutiny. The alleged ship, “Star of the East,” was not a whaler. There was no fishing off the Falkland Islands in 1891. Bartley’s name never appeared on a manifest of the aforementioned ship. The captain’s wife said that her husband neverlost anyone overboard in all their years of marriage, and they were married in 1891.
the story was believed as a legend for years by countries on both sides of the Atlantic but has been shown to be scientifically impossible
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 8:54pm On Dec 17, 2016
damogul:
He is using a blog to dispute truth. Something that is registered with the British Admiralty and found on the headstone of the sailor.
Which blog? Salon.com isn't a blog but a very credible new outlet in the USA. You have been caught spreading fiction.
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:55pm On Dec 17, 2016
dalaman:
Salon is a blog? Please look up salon.com. it is a very credible news site just like thisday or punch newspaper in Nigeria. I repeat salon is a very credible news outlet in the USA.
Salon.com is just like naij . There are stories naij would post on their site but can't be seen in top news site like Punch , Vanguard , ThisDay

The site is just for personal essays by employed workers that can elicit reactions from people that's all . Its all about the opprobrium of generally accepted facts or beliefs .

Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 8:55pm On Dec 17, 2016
dalaman:
Salon is a blog? Please look up salon.com. it is a very credible news site just like thisday or punch newspaper in Nigeria. I repeat salon is a very credible news outlet in the USA.
The funny thing about you guys is that you are so limited in thinking yet you claim being intelligent.

http://www.rockcitytimes.com/local-man-alive-swallowed-whale-shedd-aquarium/


Thats another...More recent!
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 8:56pm On Dec 17, 2016
damogul:
I suppose www.smithsonianmag.com is not credible right?
The website was just repeating a long told fiction.
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 8:57pm On Dec 17, 2016
Chicago, IL – An Arkansas man is alive after being swallowed by a whale on Saturday while visiting the Shedd Aquarium. Jonah Anderson, 24, is being treated for mild dehydration at Chicago’s Mercy Medical Center after being regurgitated early this morning.

The incident happened while viewing the Beluga Whale exhibit at Shedd. Witnesses say the whale, Puiji, came out of the pool, grabbed Anderson, and proceeded to swallow him whole. Anderson remained unharmed inside the whale until this morning when he was spit back onto the viewing platform.

“This is the first time any of our whales have exhibited aggressive behavior,” Shedd’s vice president of communications Andrea Smalec tells us. “We frequently allow special guest to interact with the whales, our staff even occasionally swim with the whales. This is completely unexpected.”

Animal trainers tried unsuccessfully to extract Anderson from the whale during the three days. Anderson was able to communicate with outsiders through text message during the stay. Friends and family tell us that Anderson remained positive and relaxed during the time.

“He seemed really upbeat,” Jonah’s girlfriend Mary, who was with him on the trip, tells us. “Of course this is not the first time something like this has happened. We were on a boat tour outside San Francisco last year when a whale snatched him from the side. That one scared him a bit, this time it all seemed routine. Not sure why this keeps happening.”

Doctors expect to release Anderson from the hospital later today. He hopes to return to Arkansas to visit his cousin Daniel who is in critical condition following a fall into the lion exhibit at the Little Rock Zoo.
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman:
damogul:
The funny thing about you guys is that you are so limited in thinking yet you claim being intelligent.

http://www.rockcitytimes.com/local-man-alive-swallowed-whale-shedd-aquarium/


Thats another...More recent!
Damogul please go and sleep I beg you. Didn't you see that this was under satire? Didn't you see the satire as the heading on the link. What is wrong with you my brother? From.fiction to satire. Please go and sleep it's past your bed time.
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 9:01pm On Dec 17, 2016
damogul:
Chicago, IL – An Arkansas man is alive after being swallowed by a whale on Saturday while visiting the Shedd Aquarium. Jonah Anderson, 24, is being treated for mild dehydration at Chicago’s Mercy Medical Center after being regurgitated early this morning.

The incident happened while viewing the Beluga Whale exhibit at Shedd. Witnesses say the whale, Puiji, came out of the pool, grabbed Anderson, and proceeded to swallow him whole. Anderson remained unharmed inside the whale until this morning when he was spit back onto the viewing platform.

“This is the first time any of our whales have exhibited aggressive behavior,” Shedd’s vice president of communications Andrea Smalec tells us. “We frequently allow special guest to interact with the whales, our staff even occasionally swim with the whales. This is completely unexpected.”

Animal trainers tried unsuccessfully to extract Anderson from the whale during the three days. Anderson was able to communicate with outsiders through text message during the stay. Friends and family tell us that Anderson remained positive and relaxed during the time.

“He seemed really upbeat,” Jonah’s girlfriend Mary, who was with him on the trip, tells us. “Of course this is not the first time something like this has happened. We were on a boat tour outside San Francisco last year when a whale snatched him from the side. That one scared him a bit, this time it all seemed routine. Not sure why this keeps happening.”

Doctors expect to release Anderson from the hospital later today. He hopes to return to Arkansas to visit his cousin Daniel who is in critical condition following a fall into the lion exhibit at the Little Rock Zoo.
Stop spamming the thread with satirical stories. It is boldly written there that the story is satire.
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 9:02pm On Dec 17, 2016
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by randomperson: 9:04pm On Dec 17, 2016
damogul:
Chicago, IL – An Arkansas man is alive after being swallowed by a whale on Saturday while visiting the Shedd Aquarium. Jonah Anderson, 24, is being treated for mild dehydration at Chicago’s Mercy Medical Center after being regurgitated early this morning.

The incident happened while viewing the Beluga Whale exhibit at Shedd. Witnesses say the whale, Puiji, came out of the pool, grabbed Anderson, and proceeded to swallow him whole. Anderson remained unharmed inside the whale until this morning when he was spit back onto the viewing platform.

“This is the first time any of our whales have exhibited aggressive behavior,” Shedd’s vice president of communications Andrea Smalec tells us. “We frequently allow special guest to interact with the whales, our staff even occasionally swim with the whales. This is completely unexpected.”

Animal trainers tried unsuccessfully to extract Anderson from the whale during the three days. Anderson was able to communicate with outsiders through text message during the stay. Friends and family tell us that Anderson remained positive and relaxed during the time.

“He seemed really upbeat,” Jonah’s girlfriend Mary, who was with him on the trip, tells us. “Of course this is not the first time something like this has happened. We were on a boat tour outside San Francisco last year when a whale snatched him from the side. That one scared him a bit, this time it all seemed routine. Not sure why this keeps happening.”

Doctors expect to release Anderson from the hospital later today. He hopes to return to Arkansas to visit his cousin Daniel who is in critical condition following a fall into the lion exhibit at the Little Rock Zoo.
how many hours was he swallowed for and even within that short time, he needed treatment... very incongruous with Jonah's story
and respond to my earlier comment where the story of James Bartley was proven to be a fiction
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