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Re: Financially Dependent Ladies Who Talk About Marriage Lack Vision by Laveda(f): 2:51pm On Dec 24, 2016
Iceeydee:

This is not an issue. No guy goes into marriage when he's not ready to cater for his family.

Isn't that even the reason why most guys marry late? Why are you trying to raise a point that doesn't even exist?

Except of course the provision you're referring to is different from the normal basic needs a man is responsible for. undecided


Even the basic needs, guys are still complaining.
Re: Financially Dependent Ladies Who Talk About Marriage Lack Vision by RoyalBlak007: 2:51pm On Dec 24, 2016
.so..
correct..

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Re: Financially Dependent Ladies Who Talk About Marriage Lack Vision by Originalsly: 2:55pm On Dec 24, 2016
Rapmoney:
When I see some young financially dependent ladies talking and planning excitedly to tie the knot with a man as fast as possible, I can't help but wonder if they are actually planning for the actual 'married life' or just the wedding day
...the married life bro!... and they do have a vision.... a very clear vision of the lifestyle they want to live. .... and is either woe or divorce be unto the husband that is unable to make the vision become a reality!

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Re: Financially Dependent Ladies Who Talk About Marriage Lack Vision by Chuksemi(m): 2:57pm On Dec 24, 2016
Laveda:


I hope you saw the part where I also said a man is supposed to provide for his woman?

Excuse me, if a man provides for a financially independent woman, what would she use her own money for? No man is obligated to provide for anybody unless he wants to.

The cave man mentality should be gotten rid of, everyone owes his or herself the duty of providing for themselves.

Thanks.

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Re: Financially Dependent Ladies Who Talk About Marriage Lack Vision by humilitypays(m): 2:58pm On Dec 24, 2016
Benita27:
I beg to differ bro @ the embolden. Let's take a look at two real examples. grin

My landlord is a Yoruba Muslim, works with shell BP, wife Yoruba too who's a degree holder, but for some reasons she's a full house wife. mind you, he has money to set up a business for her if he won't let her go into the labour market to scout for jobs, but he didn't, their first child is 14 so you can guess how long they've been married. I see it as they're doing what works for them in their marriage.

Second lady is a Uniben graduate, her husband works with Shell too, now he asked her not to work but pays her salary for seating at home on monthly basis, grin and is working for them...i wouldn't say it's because these men are not enlightened, they have their reasons.

I personally wouldn't want to be one of these wives in the future, still can't condemn such women for their decisions cos marriage is about compatibility, if a man is ok with his wife not working, and the wife is ok being a full house wife, then so be it.
‎Why do Nigerian ladies have this pre-determined mindset that the only rich guys are those working in oil companies

For you ladies info, lots of firms are paying more than oil companies, and funny enough, such organizations don't usually have big name neither are they popular unless u are an insider, u won't know that they earn fat....before u shout, the last company I worked with pay more than most intl oil firms, and for your info, we had lots of foreign staffs.

It's only naive people that think oil company workers earn the highest pay or income.

Do u know most guys that sell things at Ladipo market, Alaba intl market, trade fair, oshodi clothing market, balogun, ikeja computer village, etc earn more than most top oil company workers in a day

Some of these business guys make between NGN10,000 - NGN150,000 profit on a daily basis, multiply that by 30 days, you will find out that some business men in Nigeria earn far better than most company directors and managers and they can acquire landed properties worth millions with ease whereas the white collar guys u see in big company vehicles with driver live/depend on company loans, stealing of company funds, cooperative loans, welfare and borrowing.


Pls stop using oil company workers as a reference of successful Nigerian men, it has become stale and old fashioned abeg‎ sad

To the top: very insightful write-up, well done @rapmoney, preach on if they would listen cry

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Re: Financially Dependent Ladies Who Talk About Marriage Lack Vision by 2rez: 2:58pm On Dec 24, 2016
Debra911:
I really love this topic, let's be factual. From Adam, a man s meant to provide for the wife, cos it not easy; the wife carries his baby for 9months, go through rigorous task in giving birth to the child, trains this child to make sure, he/she doesn't go astray cos wat this child becomes in future will be traced to the family background, thesame wife must take care of husband, do the house chores... All these are enough reasons for the hubby to take care of the wife, that's why sometimes, Islam don't support their girls to go through western education, according to them, they are meant for the home , all these are logically true but today, 21st century, everything has changed, the economy is no more favourable, wat if the breadwinner(hubby) dies along the line? what if the breadwinner lose his job due to the economy meltdown? it'll be more difficult for the wife to raise her poor kids, because of these reasons, women are forced to take up the challenge of being a mother and also a breadwinner at the same time. women are called to be independent, to be strong cos they've got to take up two challenges I.e being a mother & at the same time to be financially independent, inorder to become a helpmate to her spouse in d 'rainy days. Any lady who s not ready to take up these challenge can not survive in the real world.

Well said buh I do not think women were forced actually. It was their CHOICE. They actually had the CHOICE to either take up the challenge of being a mother & also a breadwinner at the same time or not.
Re: Financially Dependent Ladies Who Talk About Marriage Lack Vision by Chuksemi(m): 2:59pm On Dec 24, 2016
Laveda:


Even the basic needs, guys are still complaining.

Then again, why shouldn't we? na we born am?

What if I say, every right thinking woman should be able to provide for her man. Sounds right?

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Re: Financially Dependent Ladies Who Talk About Marriage Lack Vision by Iceeydee: 3:00pm On Dec 24, 2016
Laveda:


Even the basic needs, guys are still complaining.
Complaining as how? Their complaints doesn't change the fact that it's their responsibility.

It's the same way your counterparts are complaining that we should join them in the kitchen and other house chores. It's their responsibility but they complain anyway.

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Re: Financially Dependent Ladies Who Talk About Marriage Lack Vision by Nobody: 3:03pm On Dec 24, 2016
Rapmoney:
In the end, they start becoming burden to family members and friends when the man loses the power to produce resources.

Working in Shell or any other multi-nationals is not a pre-requisite for being enlightened.
Lol.
You enjoy argument. grin

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Re: Financially Dependent Ladies Who Talk About Marriage Lack Vision by Goldenheart(m): 3:04pm On Dec 24, 2016
Laveda:


tongue Broke fella spotted.
grin u are welcome

Re: Financially Dependent Ladies Who Talk About Marriage Lack Vision by humilitypays(m): 3:10pm On Dec 24, 2016
Every woman should have something doing to earn a living before going into marriage, don't wait until you get married before u start to do something to earn your own money.

Ladies stop waiting for men to define your life!

The problem is, most ladies are lazy and not creative, they remain idle, can't get a decent job, can't startup a viable business, can learn trade or productive handwork, they keep fasting/praying for husband and hoping that once they marry, their husband will then help and setup a business, mostly shop, boutique, hair salon for them...which usually ends nowhere but gossip house for all ladies that live around there, which is why most men don't like to open biz for their wives.

So if u want your husband to support u, start doing something now that u are single and while courting let him know u enjoy what u are doing before he met u and would love to expand and grow it into something bigger with time.

Don't just sit idle and be waiting for the man u will marry to open a business for u, such businesses don't usually succeed because the lady will always believe that it's just something to while away time and keep busy and not something to grow and use to support the family.

No man will tell u to shutdown your legal business u were using to support yourself and your family before he married u after he marries u, no sane man does that!


No reasonable man will tell a lady who is very productive and earning legal income to quit and become a housewife just because he married her‎.

Even presidents' wives work as first ladies and indirectly gets paid plus other allowances, so who is that man to tell his wife not to work, how much does he have Is he richer than Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Mr. Forest, et al

Only insecure, over bearing, control freaking men tell their wives to become housewife!

Any man that tells you that as a single lady, please don't marry him, how much does he have Does he have up to $100 billion to guarantee your future and that of your children plus grandchildren Nonsense!!!‎ angry angry

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Re: Financially Dependent Ladies Who Talk About Marriage Lack Vision by Nobody: 3:12pm On Dec 24, 2016
humilitypays:
‎Why do Nigerian ladies have this pre-determined mindset that the only rich guys are those working in oil companies

For you ladies info, lots of firms are paying more than oil companies, and funny enough, such organizations don't usually have big name neither are they popular unless u are an insider, u won't know that they earn fat....before u shout, the last company I worked with pay more than most intl oil firms, and for your info, we had lots of foreign staffs.

It's only naive people that think oil company workers earn the highest pay or income.

Do u know most guys that sell things at Ladipo market, Alaba intl market, trade fair, oshodi clothing market, balogun, ikeja computer village, etc earn more than most top oil company workers in a day

Some of these business guys make between NGN10,000 - NGN150,000 profit on a daily basis, multiply that by 30 days, you will find out that some business men in Nigeria earn far better than most company directors and managers and they can acquire landed properties worth millions with ease whereas the white collar guys u see in big company vehicles with driver live/depend on company loans, stealing of company funds, cooperative loans, welfare and borrowing.


Pls stop using oil company workers as a reference of successful Nigerian men, it has become stale and old fashioned abeg‎ sad

To the top: very insightful write-up, well done @rapmoney, preach on if they would listen cry
I only made reference to two men i know in person to the op who taught my submission were false.

There's no need for this comparison as even the traders you mentioned aren't as comfortable as these shell guys i mentioned.
Re: Financially Dependent Ladies Who Talk About Marriage Lack Vision by fabrista(m): 3:21pm On Dec 24, 2016
Benita27:
Because you've not seen doesn't make it impossible.
There're ladies with degrees whose husbands have subjected to full time house wives, of course they agreed on what they felt will make their marriage work.
Being financially dependent before marriage still doesn't make a lady visionless, is one without prospect that's visionless.
which degree?? A degree in mass communication, marketing, sociology, edu economics. etc you call that degree?

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Re: Financially Dependent Ladies Who Talk About Marriage Lack Vision by NuFarma(m): 3:22pm On Dec 24, 2016
Deep down, females don't want to be the ones doing all the work and being the providers. That's why (for almost all of them) their biggest goal in life is to get married....

Some teenage girls already have an idea of how their wedding day is going to be like.

Discussing topics like this is a waste of time. These females know themselves and they know the truth. They only hope that men don't find out the truth.

Any female that says she agrees with the OP is lying. Simple.

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Re: Financially Dependent Ladies Who Talk About Marriage Lack Vision by Lizander: 3:24pm On Dec 24, 2016
Benita27:
Because you've not seen doesn't make it impossible.
There're ladies with degrees whose husbands have subjected to full time house wives, of course they agreed on what they felt will make their marriage work.
Being financially dependent before marriage still doesn't make a lady visionless, is one without prospect that's visionless.
please try and understand the post. he wasnt blaming women. he was just pointing out the obvious and trying to make them see reasons why they shld be productive nd dump the stereotypical belief dat its d sole duty of a man to provide for his home. the man and woman should b team players. the percentage of men who want their wives to b full time house wives in this time and age z 0.5%.

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Re: Financially Dependent Ladies Who Talk About Marriage Lack Vision by NuFarma(m): 3:27pm On Dec 24, 2016
humilitypays:
Every woman should have something doing to earn a living before going into marriage, don't wait until you get married before u s...(

^^feminist spotted.
Re: Financially Dependent Ladies Who Talk About Marriage Lack Vision by Beamborla(f): 3:30pm On Dec 24, 2016
fabrista:
which degree?? A degree in mass communication, marketing, sociology, edu economics. etc you call that degree?
I'm not understanding....

A degree in mass communication is not a degree

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Re: Financially Dependent Ladies Who Talk About Marriage Lack Vision by fxtreme(m): 3:32pm On Dec 24, 2016
Benita27:
I beg to differ bro @ the embolden. Let's take a look at two real examples. grin

My landlord is a Yoruba Muslim, works with shell BP, wife Yoruba too who's a degree holder, but for some reasons she's a full house wife. mind you, he has money to set up a business for her if he won't let her go into the labour market to scout for jobs, but he didn't, their first child is 14 so you can guess how long they've been married. I see it as they're doing what works for them in their marriage.

Second lady is a Uniben graduate, her husband works with Shell too, now he asked her not to work but pays her salary for seating at home on monthly basis, grin and is working for them...i wouldn't say it's because these men are not enlightened, they have their reasons.

I personally wouldn't want to be one of these wives in the future, still can't condemn such women for their decisions cos marriage is about compatibility, if a man is ok with his wife not working, and the wife is ok being a full house wife, then so be it.

And that shows the both men have vision, right?

So what if they lose their jobs? Or do they own the jobs?

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Re: Financially Dependent Ladies Who Talk About Marriage Lack Vision by Nobody: 3:35pm On Dec 24, 2016
fxtreme:


And that shows the both men have vision, right?

So what if they lose their jobs? Or do they own the jobs?
Why don't they have vision?, shouldn't they have investments and landed properties?.
Re: Financially Dependent Ladies Who Talk About Marriage Lack Vision by Nobody: 3:37pm On Dec 24, 2016
fabrista:
which degree?? A degree in mass communication, marketing, sociology, edu economics. etc you call that degree?
Please what do you call them?.
I am not understanding what you now call a degree if those are not.

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Re: Financially Dependent Ladies Who Talk About Marriage Lack Vision by Nobody: 3:46pm On Dec 24, 2016
According to Sam Adeyemi, any woman who doesn't help her husband financially should explain where else she wants to help him. Is it in childbirth? Then she is wrong, its our Natural default.

I will marry man with a vision but I must make money to an extent. Not just for myself but for the both of us. I dont want to be a liability to him.

I want to rule our the fact that the reason why women live longer than men is simply because they don't have wives.



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Re: Financially Dependent Ladies Who Talk About Marriage Lack Vision by fxtreme(m): 4:04pm On Dec 24, 2016
Benita27:
Why don't they have vision?, shouldn't they have investments and landed properties?.

You did not mention investments in your example.

If they have investments that generate income for the family then they are on point.

But if it is only the SHELL jobs as you said earlier, then that is no vision in my opinion.

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Re: Financially Dependent Ladies Who Talk About Marriage Lack Vision by Nobody: 4:12pm On Dec 24, 2016
fxtreme:


You did not mention investments in your example.

If they have investments that generate income for the family then they are on point.

But if it is only the SHELL jobs as you said earlier, then that is no vision in my opinion.
You should have connected the dots yourself, i mustn't mention everything. grin

Who lives on such jobs solely these days?.
Re: Financially Dependent Ladies Who Talk About Marriage Lack Vision by mumels(m): 4:15pm On Dec 24, 2016
StephDamielola:
According to Sam Adeyemi, any woman who doesn't help her husband financially should explain where else she wants to help him. Is it in childbirth? Then she is wrong, its our Natural default.

I will marry man with a vision but I must make money to an extent. Not just for myself but for the both of us. I dont want to be a liability to him.

I want to rule our the fact that the reason why women live longer than men is simply because they don't have wives.



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Re: Financially Dependent Ladies Who Talk About Marriage Lack Vision by bezimo(m): 4:23pm On Dec 24, 2016
Rapmoney:
Not everyone who finds a wife finds a good thing. Only those who find a good wife. There should be more explanation to that statement.

Bunch of empty liabilities everywhere, Prov 31 describe what a wife is not the liabilities that parade themselves about looking for a husband. Anybody can find a woman but not a wife.

NB: While men are out there hustling legitimately so they can properly be in a position to take care and provide for a family, the women are supposed to develop themselves to be effective help mates as designed by God, but can an empty liability be an effective help mate? Offcourse that's not possible.

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Re: Financially Dependent Ladies Who Talk About Marriage Lack Vision by Nobody: 4:26pm On Dec 24, 2016
Rapmoney:
So you mean a man will marry a lady who is a medical doctor or one who is into exportation of some commodities even before marriage and force her to sit at home? I don't think that's possible. Read the post again. I'm talking about the status of the woman even before marriage; she needs to be engaged and productive even before marriage.

it happens, av two uncles whose wives were career women but after marriage dey turned dem to housewives, one was a medical doctor d other was working with an airline coy. Sometimes I looked @ dem n feel like slapping sense into dem. Well sha dey r all happily married so watz my own.

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Re: Financially Dependent Ladies Who Talk About Marriage Lack Vision by HARDDON: 4:33pm On Dec 24, 2016
Laveda:


I never stated I'm a feminist.

We all have our level, go for the lady that suits you and stop blabbing everywhere. smiley


#ouch! #eHurts!


@ op, true dah,

alota them females lack proper orientation(induced).


even the ones that had some semblance of good one, gets soiled by GUYS generally!

come to think of it, lets say her momma taught her to be resourceful and contribute to her family( theory)

then she got into the University, and every where she turned, guys buys her attention! buy her cloths, make up kits, make hair hair, fix her nails, buys her breakfast, lunch, dinner even lingerie!

What do you think would happen to the good up bringing?; tru dah roof!!!

she now believes it is the duty of the man to provide, hers is to eat n grow fat!
she carries that odd induced mentality into her husby's house ...oh well!


see?

MEN ARE MOSTLY TO BE BLAMED for WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THE LADIES OF TODAY.

Apart from the rich that spoils their kids and live to regret same, average Nigerian Momma most def brings their female flames up properly

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Re: Financially Dependent Ladies Who Talk About Marriage Lack Vision by fxtreme(m): 4:50pm On Dec 24, 2016
The OP just said a truth, which is meant to be an advice to the ladies for their own good. But most will see it as an attack and lash out at the OP, these are the very ones guilty of the faulty mentality.

To the ladies, if you have a man who wants to marry you just for you to stay at home to raise his kids, then know that he is just using you to chase his dreams.

As harsh as the above sounds, most ladies are okay with it as it's an easy way out of their financial troubles because they are just lazy.

Heck, what's my bother anyways - most females don't even have dreams, or their dream is to just get married.

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Re: Financially Dependent Ladies Who Talk About Marriage Lack Vision by Nobody: 4:50pm On Dec 24, 2016
Rapmoney:
So you mean a man will marry a lady who is a medical doctor or one who is into exportation of some commodities even before marriage and force her to sit at home? I don't think that's possible. Read the post again. I'm talking about the status of the woman even before marriage; she needs to be engaged and productive even before marriage.

My hubby's friend married a nurse. While she was based in Nigeria, she did very well, but due to school and licensing, she is unable to work where we are. I was going about helping her find work, when my husband told me to stop and leave it. Her husband does not want her to work because he feels she will be too proud. Can you imagine? He wants her to sit home with his child while he chases women. I believe all women should be financially independent in a marriage to avoid these issues.

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Re: Financially Dependent Ladies Who Talk About Marriage Lack Vision by fxtreme(m): 4:56pm On Dec 24, 2016
Benita27:
You should have connected the dots yourself, i mustn't mention everything. grin

Who lives on such jobs solely these days?.

There were no dots to connect. I just helped you out wink
Re: Financially Dependent Ladies Who Talk About Marriage Lack Vision by fxtreme(m): 4:58pm On Dec 24, 2016
Benita27:
Who lives on such jobs solely these days?.

Many people do.

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