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alBHAGDADI:
Running to Kafir land for help like the Syrian, Libyan, Afghanistan and Arab Muslim refugees do today is against the commands of Allah as seen in the Quran. Why do they disobey it?

Quran (3:28) - "Let not the believers Take for friends or HELPERS Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah: except by way of precaution, that ye may Guard yourselves from them..."

aminusanti:
Source: http://www.qurancommentary.com/comm3_28.html

Waiting for ur explanation on this verse so we can compare and know the correct context

Demmzy15:
When this same kafirs were fighting destructive wars, Muslims harbored them. So why can't Muslims get a return of favor for the goodness they've done for the kuffars previously?

alBHAGDADI:
But getting a return favour is equal to going against the commands of Allah which says that they should never seek HELP from the Kafirs.

Or are you people now ready to dump Allah?

Demmzy15:
Allaah said I can eat and marry from Jews and Christians, so why can't I go to their lands? So what's your problem!



Is it not you christians that preach help your neighbors? When Europe was at war, many ran to Muslims in Syria, Palestine, Egypt, etc. So why can't Muslims run to them for help?

alBHAGDADI:
Keep quiet.

Allah said you can eat and marry from the Jews and Christians but he strongly condemned running to them for HELP.

No Christian says that Muslims can't run to them for help. We will welcome them with open arms just as it is done in Europe, though this Savages have insulted it by killing Europeans and raping them.

Am only asking why Muslims kick against Allah's command by going to seek help from the Kafirs he warned against.

Demmzy15:
Are you not contradicting yourself? If I'm allowed to eat and marry from someone why won't I get close and request for help from them?

alBHAGDADI:
Stop directing me to an Al taquiya website.

It seems all the verses in the unholy Quran were just for people of Mohammad's time ALONE. if so, then I think all Muslims should throw away the Quran cos its outdated nature is causing terror acts today cuz Muslims read it and apply its archaic ways to today's world.

In your Al taquiya website, it says that the verse in this OP was for Muslims of old who were constantly in conflicts with their neighbors. Because of the conflicts, Mohammad told them not to seek HELP from the Kafir.

Well, in today's world, Muslims are still also in conflicts with the Kafir Germany, France, America etc who send fighter jets to bombarded Islamic ummah and render Muslims homeless.

So, if the Muslims of old were told not to seek HELP from the Kafirs then, why are the Muslims of today seeking HELP from the Kafirs of Germany France and America ?

Demmzy15:
Allaah said I can eat and marry from Jews and Christians, so why can't I go to their lands? So what's your problem!



Is it not you christians that preach help your neighbors? When Europe was at war, many ran to Muslims in Syria, Palestine, Egypt, etc. So why can't Muslims run to them for help?

alBHAGDADI:
Am not contradicting myself.

You are the one kicking against Allah's commandment by going to seek help from the Kafir. Why not seek help from your fellow Islamic countries like Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Iran?

Those ones shut their border, so you had no choice but to lick Kafir yansh.

true2god:
Muslims run to the kafir because Islam has nothing to offer except war, poverty and misery. And again, most Muslims are tired of living under sharia laws and its brutality, so they want to have a fresh air of freedom.

Unfortunately, they misuse the same freedom by going after kafir girls to rape, having been starved of sex in a sharia environment, where the rich Muslims already had 4 wives hence creating artificial scarcity of women that the younger generations should have married. To make up for this disadvantage, young Muslim men are desperate for kafir girls, either to 'marry', rape, or to have a causal but mutually agreed sex.

Islam has nothing good to offer.

Demmzy15:
Yes you are, it shows how confused you're when trying to prove an irrational point!



They can seek help from whosoever they want. There are 500,000 to 1 million Syrian and Yemeni refugees in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan holds refugees from Afghanistan, Turkey holds millions, Iraq, Jordan and Egypt holds millions. So why complaining about the few thousands in Europe. When this same Europe was at war during WW2, many of the European Christians sought refuge in Syria(even in Aleppo), Egypt, Palestine and many North African countries.

So with all this, why can't Muslims move to Europe? Aren't you going to return the favor, aren't you ungrateful for complaining?



Lmao! Na you lock am abi, oponu!

aminusanti:
Mr Pervert, are u against bcus of sex?? D whole trash u put above is all about sex n women and I notice most of ur pain towards islam is related to sex sex women women! Whats going on exactly? We are not covered yet by the blood of jesus to erase our future sins so pls remain in ur man worshiping religion and enjoy ur kafir women with or without marriage, ur God has already forgiven u

alBHAGDADI:
Are you an illiterate?

Am not saying they shouldn't move to wherever they want. Am only asking why they do so knowing fully well that it is against Allah's command.

Allah must be mad at them now.

From all observations you're a nonentity, someone who can't be reasoned with. I'm done!

true2god:
Bros today is Xmas hence I won't insult you. Tell me when, where and how Muslims helped the kafirs? Muslims can never help the kafirs, it is against allahh's injunction. Muslims are advised never to help the kafirs.

Demmzy15:
From all observations you're a nonentity, someone who can't be reasoned with. I'm done!

Demmzy15:
For when Muslims helped Kafirs doing World Wars https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/06/02/the-forgotten-story-of-european-refugee-camps-in-the-middle-east/?utm_term=.51e1ff399d2a

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36499727

http://www.intellectualtakeout.org/blog/how-middle-easterners-treated-european-refugees-during-wwii

I know as usual, you won't read, but I'll leave you to wallow in your ignorance. This is something that would cause you greatly someday, being deliberately stupid.

That said, I ignored your other posts because it's stupid and irrelevant to the topic.

alBHAGDADI:
Did the European refugees of that time cause destruction in the middle East like the Muslim refugees are currently doing in Europe today by raping and bombing their helpers? No

No Muslim is causing problems but ISIS, by the way the Europeans didn't even have to destroy the middle-east because they've destroyed countless lives. Do you know the death toll of WW2 alone? Close to 70million people dead, so they didn't even have to destroy the middle-east because they've destroyed the world. This is why it's called World War not European war, get that!!!!

Demmzy15:
No Muslim is causing problems but ISIS, by the way the Europeans didn't even have to destroy the middle-east because they've destroyed countless lives. Do you know the death toll of WW2 alone? Close to 70million people dead, so they didn't even have to destroy the middle-east because they've destroyed the world. This is why it's called World War not European war, get that!!!!

Demmzy15:
For when Muslims helped Kafirs doing World Wars https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/06/02/the-forgotten-story-of-european-refugee-camps-in-the-middle-east/?utm_term=.51e1ff399d2a

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36499727

http://www.intellectualtakeout.org/blog/how-middle-easterners-treated-european-refugees-during-wwii

I know as usual, you won't read, but I'll leave you to wallow in your ignorance. This is something that would cause you greatly someday, being deliberately stupid.

That said, I ignored your other posts because it's stupid and irrelevant to the topic.

aminusanti:
Mr Pervert, are u against bcus of sex?? D whole trash u put above is all about sex n women and I notice most of ur pain towards islam is related to sex sex women women! Whats going on exactly? We are not covered yet by the blood of jesus to erase our future sins so pls remain in ur man worshiping religion and enjoy ur kafir women with or without marriage, ur God has already forgiven u

alBHAGDADI:
Why are your people disobeying Allah by going to Kafir land for help?

aminusanti:
because of this
Read again even thou u r allergic to truth

FriendChoice:
Bro. Don't waste your time on this halfwit animacules.

true2god:
Sorry bros, I won't buy this leftist propaganda that's aimed at unrestricted arab-muslim migration into Europe in the name of refugees. The link you posted above was a world war where virtually all countries are belligerents, including the Arab world.

The Palestine and Arab forces fought alongside the Germans with the hope of Adolf Hitler giving the Arabs full control of Jerusalem. When Hitler failed, the British disappointed the Arabs by allowing the Jews create the state of Israel.

On Iran, the Russians and the British jointly occupied Iran so that the Iranian oil field will not fall to the Germans. The Iranians fought alongside the British.

On the North African front of world war 2, the Arabs fought for both the Axis power and the allied forces.

And dont forget that there was a global refugee crisis then, during the world war 2. At no time of peace has the Arabs help anyone who is not Muslim. The Arabs also had millions of refugees too during world war 2.

[s]In this modern era, there is no war in Pakistan, Sudan, Algeria, Tunisia, morroco, etc, why are they running to the kafirs? The only place there is war is Syria but 90% of arab-muslim 'refugees' are not Syrians. Can't fool me with those George Soro's leftist link whose aim is to destroy the western nations with unrestricted mass Muslim migration, most of whom are economic migrants.[/s]

Demmzy15:
I actually wanted to ignore this post but I decided to reply you. Your problem is you always think you're intelligent, but you always get beaten. Remember the last thread I opened in which your and friends failed miserably?



The middle-east weren't at war, the Europeans brought the war to Muslim lands like in North Africa.



Look at how useless you're, the man who supported the Germans was the Mufti of Jerusalem by the name Hajji Al Ameen, he supported the Germans because the British were carrying out racist campaigns against the Arabs of Palestine, he thought Germany was going to win so as the Jews who came in would be chased out, in fact he didn't even support the killing program of the Germans.



During the war, Iran was neutral but Soviets and the British Empire wanted to control Iranian oilfields so as they could use them. So they(Soviet and British) invaded Iran, so are you seriously going to blame Iran for defending itself?



Your brothers brought the war to Muslim lands! Besides today in Syria, there's literally a World War going on there with each world power testing its might.



Another stupidity from your part, many North African Muslim countries were known to have saved their Jewish neighbors. When European countries were surrendering the Jews, Muslims protected them in many cases. In fact the Jewish deaths in North Africa was relatively low compared to Europe!



Very unnecessary, the question is. Muslims helped the Europeans during the world wars when they were refugees, so why can't Muslims move into Europe when they're in need?

true2god:
Never told you I'm intelligent, but bear in mind I'm not foolish either.

Recently there was an earthquake in Nepal and one of the countries that chose to offer help was Pakistan. Do you know what they sent to the Nepalese as aid? It was beef. And they fully understood that Nepal is a Hindu-majority country that do not consume beef, just as Muslims don't consume pork. When the Nepalese protested against the Pakistanis, the Pakistanis apologized by saying they are never aware that the Nepalese do not eat beef. It is like the Americans apologizing to the Saudis that they never knew the Saudis don't consume pork. This is the best Muslims can do.

And again, you cited the event of the second world war as a proof that Muslims can help the kafir, even though there was a global conflict which gave rise to global exodus of people from one place to another.

Can you give me any Qur'anic verse where allahh asked Muslims to help the kafirs?

On a contemporary level, can you give me a single Muslim nation that currently give aid and financial assistance to a non-muslim nation?

Can you give a single example of an Islamic charity organization that assist every body, whether Muslims or non-muslims?

We know that some rich western nations give economic and financial aid to Muslim-majority countries like German assistance to turkey, US assistance to Pakistan, Sweden assistance to the Arab world, etc, can you give me a single rich Arab or Muslim nation that currently help a non-muslims nation?