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felixomor:
No, it abdicated its responsibility.
Why because in addition to intelligence, it has a consciousness.

If I create something and it acts in an imperfect way... Am at fault because I created it that way...

randomperson:
Yes... He did it with the Israelites. He said thou shall not kill and next thing, "go and kill all the amalekites, including children and animals"... You see your god has bi-polar disorder

I posted you scriptures, its obvious you didn't read them.

Now listen, call God whatever you like, God remains the Earth's Land owner, and if he decides to evict any insubordinate and rebellious tenant, He has the right to do so anytime and anyday.

You for one, are living on borrowed times. You are enjoying the Grace under Christ. Get this deep down, this grace shall expire, if you die before, at resurrection, you shall come up again and you'll remember this discussion. Believe me you will.

randomperson:
This god na petty bastard ooh... So Ahab sins and he goes scot free but his sons will be the one suffering

1Kings 21:29 - See thou how Ahab humbleth himself before me? Because he humbleth himself before me, I will not bring the evil in his days, but in his sons days I will bring the upon his house. KJV

I tried to rationalize this verse for like a year.

This Christians think we just woke up one bad morning and decided we were going to be atheists.

Most Theologist ends up being atheists after exposure to various religious doctrines, history and cultures.

You just need to realize there is nothing so special about christianity to become an atheist or agnostic.

randomperson:
If I create something and it acts in an imperfect way... Am at fault because I created it that way...

Your thought process is overlooking the definition of consciousness and freewill.
Your mind is fixed so.

Anas09:
I posted you scriptures, its obvious you didn't read them.

Now listen, call God whatever you like, God remains the Earth's Land owner, and if he decides to evict any insubordinate and rebellious tenant, He has the right to do so anytime and anyday.

You for one, are living on borrowed times. You are enjoying the Grace under Christ. Get this deep down, this grace shall expire, if you die before, at resurrection, you shall come up again and you'll remember this discussion. Believe me you will.

Now listen, say whatever you like about borrowed time and all that bullsh*t, it doesn't change the fact that your god is imaginary. The problem is that the imagination of the people who came up with god is so warped, the Christian god actually... How can someone come up with a god who is so sadistic. I could have done a better job *spits*

hopefulLandlord:
okay, that explains the story of Lazarus and the rich man who apparently still remembered how he lived his life despite being in agony or maybe that's just a parable and you won't remember anything

anyways, I can always keep count and feel fulfilled right on earth with every infant I impale




oh! "cease to exist?" pretty sure Anas09 disagrees totally with that, according to her we'll burn forever and so do many Christians, many even believe we'll still have our memories

You do not need me to contribute anything more. You answered him well.

If the sinners are going to be completely annihiliated, why is then resurrection and judgement neccesary?

If that's the case, then there shouldn't be any need for judgement. When they die, they cease to exist, when they get completely annihiliated, they cease to exist. So, why resurrect them in the first place?

The focus is "They cease to exist", either way.

DoctorAlien, does this make sense to you?


Pls this is not the place and time for this.

randomperson:
Now listen, say whatever you like about borrowed time and all that bullsh*t, it doesn't change the fact that your god is imaginary. The problem is that the imagination of the people who came up with god is so warped, the Christian god actually... How can someone come up with a god who is so sadistic. I could have done a better job *spits*

You urself is more imaginary.
U r so imaginary, u named urself "random" by yourself.

felixomor:
Your thought process is overlooking the definition of consciousness and freewill.
Your mind is fixed so.

Am not overlooking freewill... But the quality of the decisions u make with your freewill is a product of how intelligent you are... How intelligent you're is a product of how u are created....

randomperson:
Am not overlooking freewill... But the quality of the decisions u make with your freewill is a product of how intelligent you are... How intelligent you're is a product of how u are created....

2 bolded.
2 wrong theories from no where.
Both theories manufactured by you on the spot

Then there is no need for knowledge.
If my intelligence depends on my nature.
Then there is no need for study.

hopefulLandlord:
you're still popping "command theory" which I've shown has NO effect from the perspective of the children!

we are looking at things from the "children's view" not from general world view here; I'm not judging the action or motivation of the killer but the effect on the "killed" (infants)

the question WLC is answering was "what did the Canaanite infants do to deserve being killed?"

which is what WLC was also arguing, he didn't pop up Command Theory when it came to the infants and I'm simply using this simple logic here

his logic goes thus

"any infant that dies receives salvation"

therefore....

"the Canaanite infants got automatic salvation"

the first logic, which is where it all started, is what I'm using here

if I commit infanticide I've given every infant I kill salvation, my motivation or reasons don't apply here, Salvation is the point

Yates even though you might disagree with her reasons actually gave the infants SALVATION!

Herod even though you might disagree with his motivation and reasons still gave the infants SALVATION!!

Herod and Yates unwittingly gave all the children they killed "salvation"

have we reached an agreement?

I'm heading somewhere with this discussion

Look at things from whichever view you want, the point remains that, every human, young or old, is Yahweh's property and has the sole right to withdraw them from this earth at anytime. Only Him has that right.

Am following you to whereever you taking this to.

The earth is the LORD's, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein.


For he hath founded it upon the seas, and established it upon the floods.
Psalm:24: 1- 2

Hopefullandlord. Okay checkout your name, "Landlord", i hope you know the rights of a Landlord over his property? Yea, that explains it.


God has the right to kill everyone from this earth if he so choose. But if another person does it without God saying to him, "go and do it", he'll answer for it.

Just like the law empowers a judge within the jurisdiction of his domain (His courtroom) and within the confines of his authority to sentense a criminal to death, but if he does that outside the rule of law, he answers for it, even as a Chief Judge.

hopefulLandlord:
you're still popping "command theory" which I've shown has NO effect from the perspective of the children!

we are looking at things from the "children's view" not from general world view here; I'm not judging the action or motivation of the killer but the effect on the "killed" (infants)

the question WLC is answering was "what did the Canaanite infants do to deserve being killed?"

which is what WLC was also arguing, he didn't pop up Command Theory when it came to the infants and I'm simply using this simple logic here

his logic goes thus

"any infant that dies receives salvation"

therefore....

"the Canaanite infants got automatic salvation"

the first logic, which is where it all started, is what I'm using here

if I commit infanticide I've given every infant I kill salvation, my motivation or reasons don't apply here, Salvation is the point

Yates even though you might disagree with her reasons actually gave the infants SALVATION!

Herod even though you might disagree with his motivation and reasons still gave the infants SALVATION!!

Herod and Yates unwittingly gave all the children they killed "salvation"

have we reached an agreement?

I'm heading somewhere with this discussion

Who gave Yates the right to give the kids salvation?

felixomor:
You urself is more imaginary.
U r so imaginary, u named urself "random" by yourself.

So random now means imaginary??...
And it seems u don't understand the motive or psychology behind the moniker randomperson.

Good morning guys,
Where did we stop yesterday?

Yes, let's start with the twisted or retarded judgements in the bible.


2 Sam 24:15 - “The Lord sent a pestilence on Israel from that morning until the appointed time; and seventy thousand of the people died”

So, David the king decided to take census of his kingdom. Then Yahweh got infuriated by this act and killed 70,000 Israelites because of David's singly decision.

The absurd part of it all is that, the same God (merciful or mercifully) placed the thought in David's mind!!!

Anas09, felixomor, and co.

You can come out with your excuses now. Over to you.

ScepticalPyrrho:
1Kings 21:29 - See thou how Ahab humbleth himself before me? Because he humbleth himself before me, I will not bring the evil in his days, but in his sons days I will bring the upon his house. KJV

I tried to rationalize this verse for like a year.

This Christians think we just woke up one bad morning and decided we were going to be atheists.

Most Theologist ends up being atheists after exposure to various religious doctrines, history and cultures.

You just need to realize there is nothing so special about christianity to become an atheist or agnostic.

Nobody becomes an atheist for questioning bible verses they don't understand

That's why this thread was not moved to front page . The big boss wants people to think questioning religious beliefs makes them atheists

He does not want people to know that some people can reject religion and still acknowledge God

https://www.nairaland.com/3500235/must-read-god-without-religion/

randomperson:
So random now means imaginary??...
And it seems u don't understand the motive or psychology behind the moniker randomperson.

Its also obvious u dont understand the psychology of life and God

felixomor:
2 bolded.
2 wrong theories from no where.
Both theories manufactured by you on the spot

Then there is no need for knowledge.
If my intelligence depends on my nature.
Then there is no need for study.

How much knowledge u acquire is also a function of how intelligent you're... Intelligent people acquire a lot of knowledge...

felixomor:
Its also obvious u dont understand the psychology of life and God

Really... Please explain to me...

randomperson:
How much knowledge u acquire is also a function of how intelligent you're... Intelligent people acquire a lot of knowledge...

Knowledge makes u intelligent.

randomperson:
Really... Please explain to me...

First go and read the entire books of Proverbs and Ecclesiastes.
Summarize each chapter and mail it to me.

Then we start from there.

felixomor:
Knowledge makes u intelligent.

Especially crystallized intelligence - you get intelligent from reading and learning .

KingEbukasBlog:
Nobody becomes an atheist for questioning bible verses they don't understand

That's why this thread was not moved to front page . The big boss wants people to think questioning religious beliefs makes them atheists

He does not want people to know that some people can reject religion and still acknowledge God

https://www.nairaland.com/3500235/must-read-god-without-religion/

Lolz... Keep advertising your threads like someone hawking sexual performance drugs.
Rejecting religion is an important step in being an atheist... Most of the atheists on this forum rejected religion

KingEbukasBlog:
Especially crystallized intelligence - you get intelligent from reading and learning .

Exactly.
I didnt expect him to know that.

KingEbukasBlog:
Nobody becomes an atheist for questioning bible verses they don't understand

That's why this thread was not moved to front page . The big boss wants people to think questioning religious beliefs makes them atheists

He does not want people to know that some people can reject religion and still acknowledge God

https://www.nairaland.com/3500235/must-read-god-without-religion/

Did you read the later part?

Let me help you.

1Kings 21:29 - See thou how Ahab humbleth himself before me? Because he humbleth himself before me, I will not bring the evil in his days, but in his sons days I will bring the upon his house. KJV

I tried to rationalize this verse for like a year.

This Christians think we just woke up one bad morning and decided we were going to be atheists.

Most Theologist ends up being atheists after exposure to various religious doctrines, history and cultures.

You just need to realize there is nothing so special about christianity to become an atheist or agnostic.

felixomor:
First go and read the entire books of Proverbs and Ecclesiastes.
Summarize each chapter and mail it to me.

Then we start from there.

But why?? Why not songs of Solomon? I want to see where God was inspiring Solomon to touch and describe the breasts of his lover

randomperson:
But why?? Why not songs of Solomon? I want to see where God was inspiring Solomon to touch and describe the breasts of his lover

Ok, feel free to add it

randomperson:
Lolz... Keep advertising your threads like someone hawking sexual performance drugs.
Rejecting religion is an important step in being an atheist... Most of the atheists on this forum rejected religion

That's why I call you ignorant na

Haven't you realized it yet



Rejecting religion does not make anyone an atheist . Religious skepticism is not atheism or agnosticism

ScepticalPyrrho:
Good morning guys,
Where did we stop yesterday?

Yes, let's start with the twisted or retarded judgements in the bible.


2 Sam 24:15 - “The Lord sent a pestilence on Israel from that morning until the appointed time; and seventy thousand of the people died”

So, David the king decided to take census of his kingdom. Then Yahweh got infuriated by this act and killed 70,000 Israelites because of David's singly decision.

The absurd part of it all is that, the same God (merciful or mercifully) placed the thought in David's mind!!!

Anas09, felixomor, and co.

You can come out with your excuses now. Over to you.

Hahahahahahahaha. I really love this.

As much as you have senister motives for bringing this up, it will teach us more about the rulership of God. He has no favourites. The soul that sins dies.

He is no respecter of persons.


Lets begin with you explaining to us the real reason why God sent the plague on his people.

Remember David? The Man After God's Heart?

What did he do that his own friend (Yahweh) did not spare him?

You forget He is also a Consuming Fire. He prunes and also cuts off.

KingEbukasBlog:
Especially crystallized intelligence - you get intelligent from reading and learning .

If two people read the same amount of books and pay the same attention to the information in them, they wouldn't be equally intelligent. Natural ability plays a part

KingEbukasBlog:
That's why I call you ignorant na

Haven't you realized it yet



Rejecting religion does not make anyone an atheist . Religious skepticism is not atheism or agnosticism

Story....
Can an atheist be religious

ScepticalPyrrho:
Did you read the later part?

Let me help you.

You are pontificating . There is no evidence for your empty claim .

I would have brought my Dake's Annotated Bible to explain the verse but I noticed explaining bible verses to atheists is a complete waste of time . So I'll rather ignore it and relish watching the person make a fool of himself .

It won't change anything . Your hearts are indurated .

The purpose of showing me these verses is not to learn after I've explained them but you think It will make me question God . Am I saying the truth

I've seen it all with you atheists

randomperson:
If two people read the same amount of books and pay the same attention to the information in them, they wouldn't be equally intelligent. Natural ability plays a part

U dont have point.
Different people have different study methods.

felixomor:
U dont have point.
Different people have different study methods.

Simple question... Does natural or innate ability affect intelligence??