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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by happney65: 3:20pm On Dec 30, 2016
stanech:
That guy Obama is something else. What does he hope to achieve with all these? First Israel now this?..
Obama had to do this..He had to..The Evidence was there and was glaring the Election was interfered by State sponsored hacking by the Russians..And both people on the other side Democrats and Republicans knew Russia needed to be dealt with..Particularly when it is glaring Trump is in bed with the Russians..A Republican President wld also do such too..especially when we are know they are War Mongers..The Russian hacked both the DNC and the GOP..But why was the emails from the DNC only released to the Public?And mind you,you can see even on this Trump is sitting on the fence..He never condemned this like he condemned the UN resolution against Israel..What does that tell us..Nation First!!!
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by raumdeuter: 3:38pm On Dec 30, 2016
happney65:
Obama had to do this..He had to..The Evidence was there and was glaring the Election was interfered by State sponsored hacking by the Russians..And both people on the other side Democrats and Republicans knew Russia needed to be dealt with..Particularly when it is glaring Trump is in bed with the Russians..A Republican President wld also do such too..especially when we are know they are War Mongers..The Russian hacked both the DNC and the GOP..But why was the emails from the DNC only released to the Public?And mind you,you can see even on this Trump is sitting on the fence..He never condemned this like he condemned the UN resolution against Israel..What does that tell us..Nation First!!!
That was childish to be honest. Anyway Putin said Russia wouldn't be expelling US diplomats in retaliation

How many elections and seats have Dems lost in the Obama yrs? Is that due to Russian interference? How did Dems go from majority in both houses to barely surviving? Is that Russian interference? When Obama admitted to getting a shellacking in 2010 is that Russian interference?

The recount efforts has it shown any misconduct or significant change in the vote count? Is that Russian interference?

All the emails leaked were they lies? Did Debbie schultz or Dona Brazile commit those offences or not?

If Democrats want to continue blaming Russia and not take a hard look at themselves, they should go on, they wouldnt blame the failed policies of the democrats and every election cycle they keep on losing more and more seats even in traditional blue states

How will they get Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan Wisconsin back? yeah by blaming Russia and expelling their diplomats as if it was Russians who went to the poll and voted
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 5:46pm On Dec 30, 2016
raumdeuter:
WHen Israel dismantled settlements in Gaza strips etc what came next? Did that bring peace? Did that stop Palestinian aggression? DId that stop Hamas from using Gaza as a safe haven to launch Qassam rockets into Israel?

Why is the solution always for Israel to cede more control and never for Palestinians to renounce terror?
If I brought this up,I'll be attacked as being biased even though I try to be fair in my criticism of both Palestine and Israel.

Palestine doesn't want peace,they haven't shown signs to,they've had lots of opportunities to reach an agreement for cooperation with Israel but they choose to war,support their terrorist factions and continue to spread hateful propaganda against Jews,good thing they keep losing.Also on the other hand is Israel always ready to deploy every tactic in her playbook to keep Palestine within her control.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by raumdeuter: 5:48pm On Dec 30, 2016
Below is Anthony Bourdain a liberal

The utter contempt with which privileged Eastern liberals such as myself discuss red-state, gun-country, working-class America as ridiculous and morons and rubes is largely responsible for the upswell of rage and contempt and desire to pull down the temple that we’re seeing now,” Bourdain said in an interview with Reason magazine.

“I’ve spent a lot of time in gun-country, God-fearing America,” Bourdain continued. “There are a hell of a lot of nice people out there, who are doing what everyone else in this world is trying to do: the best they can to get by, and take care of themselves and the people they love. When we deny them their basic humanity and legitimacy of their views, however different they may be than ours, when we mock them at every turn and treat them with contempt, we do no one any good.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/anthony-bourdain-slams-privileged-liberals-for-utter-contempt-of-working-class-151215285.html

Instead of blaming Russia, liberals should take a hard look at themselves

Idiiots like Van Jones are the ones forming their opinion the one who thought electing Trump was a whitelash, when the sam country voted a blackman twice

The iddiot Van jones who thinks having a caucasian wife is his contrbution to racial healing
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 5:48pm On Dec 30, 2016
Zoharariel:
My Jewish priend, when will you stop masturbating on the concocted Russian hacking analysis?

Now, I am beginning to really miss Hurricane Mathew. grin cheesy grin Are you still in Florida? grin cheesy grin
You asked for evidence,our agencies provided them and you discredit it as concocted??

You are a special kind of ridiculousness Zohri.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by raumdeuter: 6:05pm On Dec 30, 2016
ValerianSteel:
If I brought this up,I'll be attacked as being biased even though I try to be fair in my criticism of both Palestine and Israel.

Palestine doesn't want peace,they haven't shown signs to,they've had lots of opportunities to reach an agreement for cooperation with Israel but they choose to war,support their terrorist factions and continue to spread hateful propaganda against Jews,good thing they keep losing.Also on the other hand is Israel always ready to deploy every tactic in her playbook to keep Palestine within her control.
This is the truth. Most Arabs want first the destruction of Israel before anything else and what has the Obama administration done aside from chastising and criticizing Israel at every turn while turning a blind eye on Palestinian terrorists

Israel supply Gaza food water and several materials yet the response they get from them is rockets and deaths

All those criticizing Israel ask them if those rockets were directed to their country what will they do. If Mexico was sending rockets into US daily what will Obama do? give Arizona or Texas to them as rewards?
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 6:27pm On Dec 30, 2016
stanech:
Obama had congress in the first 3 or 4 years of his administration why did he not push all these?
We lost control in 2010,President Obama was able to get the economy working again because Congress passed the Recovery Act and he was also able to pass the Affordable Care Act.We all know how things changed since the rathuglicons took over.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 6:41pm On Dec 30, 2016
raumdeuter:
Below is Anthony Bourdain a liberal

The utter contempt with which privileged Eastern liberals such as myself discuss red-state, gun-country, working-class America as ridiculous and morons and rubes is largely responsible for the upswell of rage and contempt and desire to pull down the temple that we’re seeing now,” Bourdain said in an interview with Reason magazine.

“I’ve spent a lot of time in gun-country, God-fearing America,” Bourdain continued. “There are a hell of a lot of nice people out there, who are doing what everyone else in this world is trying to do: the best they can to get by, and take care of themselves and the people they love. When we deny them their basic humanity and legitimacy of their views, however different they may be than ours, when we mock them at every turn and treat them with contempt, we do no one any good.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/anthony-bourdain-slams-privileged-liberals-for-utter-contempt-of-working-class-151215285.html

Instead of blaming Russia, liberals should take a hard look at themselves

Idiiots like Van Jones are the ones forming their opinion the one who thought electing Trump was a whitelash, when the sam country voted a blackman twice

The iddiot Van jones who thinks having a caucasian wife is his contrbution to racial healing
Lol
I still remember his meltdown on CNN on Election Day.

I just didn't buy his "whitelash" theory at all. That's not to say there is no racism in America, but I believe PC culture was a factor in Hillary's loss. Calling men sexist for 'shouting' or strongly criticizing a woman and other absurdities may have been the reason why White men (and significant minority men) turned their backs on Hillary.

Nevertheless, I'm not entirely sure about why 52% of White ditched Hillary. Did they vote against her because of her corporatist background? Her perceived "lies"? It's a mystery.

To me, Dems have lost over 900 state legislative seats and Congress because many of them chose to be Republican-lite. They only offered insignificant deviations from their Republican opponents' policy proposals. A case in point is Alison Lundergan Grimes, who in 2014, was running against Mitch McConnell in Kentucky. At a debate, she was struggling to say whether she voted for Obama or not.
Of course, voters saw through her deception and preferred to return McConnell to Washington.

For the Democratic Party to be successful in the 2018 and 2020 elections, it needs to field candidates who are economic liberals, but moderate on the "social issues". The likes of Sherrod Brown, Tulsi Gabbard, Kamala Harris, or even Nina Turner would beat your traditional conservative Republican in a presidential election.
Cutting 30% of defense/national security-related spending and ploughing it to entitlement programs or infrastructure spending or financial aid to students, is a winning message anytime.

For the record, the US has 73 submarines and 12 billion-dollar aircraft carriers, more than their adversaries combined; and over 6,000 nuclear warheads. By my count, this country spends in excess of $800bn on all aspects of national security, excluding VA care and wages of military personnel.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 7:16pm On Dec 30, 2016
CFCman:
-related spending and ploughing it to entitlement programs or infrastructure spending or financial aid to students, is a winning message anytime.

For the record, the US has 73 submarines and 12 billion-dollar aircraft carriers, more than their adversaries combined; and over 6,000 nuclear warheads. By my count, this country spends in excess of $800bn on all aspects of national security, excluding VA care and wages of military personnel.
Cutting the military in 4 years is not feasible, it will put thousands of people out of work and destabilize several industries. Also, the affected parties will just vote in the opposition and they will consume even more From implementing the previous policies.


I believe we should just let it be till a war comes or something similar to reduce the numbers then we can control the numbers.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by raumdeuter: 7:16pm On Dec 30, 2016
CFCman:
Lol
I still remember his meltdown on CNN on Election Day.

I just didn't buy his "whitelash" theory at all. That's not to say there is no racism in America, but I believe PC culture was a factor in Hillary's loss. Calling men sexist for 'shouting' or strongly criticizing a woman and other absurdities may have been the reason why White men (and significant minority men) turned their backs on Hillary.

Nevertheless, I'm not entirely sure about why 52% of White ditched Hillary. Did they vote against her because of her corporatist background? Her perceived "lies"? It's a mystery.

To me, Dems have lost over 900 state legislative seats and Congress because many of them chose to be Republican-lite. They only offered insignificant deviations from their Republican opponents' policy proposals. A case in point is Alison Lundergan Grimes, who in 2014, was running against Mitch McConnell in Kentucky. At a debate, she was struggling to say whether she voted for Obama or not.
Of course, voters saw through her deception and preferred to return McConnell to Washington.

For the Democratic Party to be successful in the 2018 and 2020 elections, it needs to field candidates who are economic liberals, but moderate on the "social issues". The likes of Sherrod Brown, Tulsi Gabbard, Kamala Harris, or even Nina Turner would beat your traditional conservative Republican in a presidential election.
Cutting 30% of defense/national security-related spending and ploughing it to entitlement programs or infrastructure spending or financial aid to students, is a winning message anytime.

For the record, the US has 73 submarines and 12 billion-dollar aircraft carriers, more than their adversaries combined; and over 6,000 nuclear warheads. By my count, this country spends in excess of $800bn on all aspects of national security, excluding VA care and wages of military personnel.
The core of the Democratic party were white blue collar working men and trade unions but they chose to abandon them for the elitist Ivy league educated lobbyist

WHen these blue collar men complain they laugh at them and call them uneducated deriding them for not wanting to change with times

In any normal world iddiots like Van Jones would be sacked for such irresponsible whitelash comment. This is a video where he was dragged on the floor by Mary Matalin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJh5DToI-U4
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 8:44pm On Dec 30, 2016
raumdeuter:
That was childish to be honest. Anyway Putin said Russia wouldn't be expelling US diplomats in retaliation

How many elections and seats have Dems lost in the Obama yrs? Is that due to Russian interference? How did Dems go from majority in both houses to barely surviving? Is that Russian interference? When Obama admitted to getting a shellacking in 2010 is that Russian interference?

The recount efforts has it shown any misconduct or significant change in the vote count? Is that Russian interference?

All the emails leaked were they lies? Did Debbie schultz or Dona Brazile commit those offences or not?

If Democrats want to continue blaming Russia and not take a hard look at themselves, they should go on, they wouldnt blame the failed policies of the democrats and every election cycle they keep on losing more and more seats even in traditional blue states

How will they get Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan Wisconsin back? yeah by blaming Russia and expelling their diplomats as if it was Russians who went to the poll and voted
Don't worry bro, Trump will turn it around once he's sworn in, What Obama wants is war with Russia so as to declare state of emergency or martial law. The best Russia can do now is to remain calm and not retaliate. I think they've already figured out by now what Obama is up to.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by edi287: 9:31am On Dec 31, 2016
happney65:
Obama had to do this..He had to..The Evidence was there and was glaring the Election was interfered by State sponsored hacking by the Russians..And both people on the other side Democrats and Republicans knew Russia needed to be dealt with..Particularly when it is glaring Trump is in bed with the Russians..A Republican President wld also do such too..especially when we are know they are War Mongers..The Russian hacked both the DNC and the GOP..But why was the emails from the DNC only released to the Public?And mind you,you can see even on this Trump is sitting on the fence..He never condemned this like he condemned the UN resolution against Israel..What does that tell us..Nation First!!!
Russia being behind the hack doesn't change the authenticity of those emails...If they had leaked damaging emails on Trump and the Republicans, you think Obama or even Hillary would've said anything about this?
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by edi287: 9:34am On Dec 31, 2016
Seriously though, Hillary needs to take a massive L...she lost to a caricature. Arrogance and complacency cost her this elections not because Trump is next coming of Jesus or whatever.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 1:23pm On Dec 31, 2016
edi287:
Russia being behind the hack doesn't change the authenticity of those emails...If they had leaked damaging emails on Trump and the Republicans, you think Obama or even Hillary would've said anything about this?
Obama and co won't give a shit if it were d other way. Instead they and the msm would brand it a conspiracy theory. And yes you're right, the authenticity of the emails have never been denied from d day they were exposed, meaning dat they were true. So if it's true, why focus on the source instead of the content of the emails?
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by armyofone(m): 3:23pm On Dec 31, 2016
Code associated with Russia hacking found on Vermont utility computer

Reuters
8 hours ago

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A code associated with a broad Russian hacking campaign dubbed Grizzly Steppe by the Obama administration has been detected on a laptop associated with a Vermont electric utility but not connected to the grid, the utility said on Friday.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-hackers-penetrated-vermont-electric-utility-washington-post-020521690.html

Oh well...they are really dipping their hands in.
Trump and his cabinets should be careful and be smart.
God bless America God bless our troops.
Semper Fi
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 3:25pm On Dec 31, 2016
Zoharariel:
Tomorrow

Breaking News: Russian Embassy in New York bombed by the CIA killing 20.

Nextday

Breaking News: Amerikan Embassy in Moskow vaporized by “Iskander-M” killing 52 grin

Following day

Breaking News: 13 Tomahawk cruise missiles launched into St. Petersburg from USS Abraham Lincoln Nimitz-Class. All 13 missiles intercepted by S400 & S500 SAMs. grin

The day after

Breaking News: 6 Bulava missiles launched from a Borei-class submarine near Alaska hit Amerika. MIM-104 Patriot SAM intercepts 1 out of 6missiles, 5 hit targets. Illinois, Maryland, New York, Florida & California completely wiped out. Death toll hits 17Million grin cheesy grin

Obama holds emergency meeting with security chiefs in a bunker - as Canada & Mexico shut border against fleeing Amerikan refugees. grin

Same day

Breaking News:

1.) Seoul wiped-out by a North Korean KN-08 ICBM. grin

2.) Iran, Turkey, Hezbollah, Hamas invade Israel. Tel Aviv burns as barrage of tactical nukes bombard Israel. grin

3.) Yemen invades Saudi Arabia.

4.) 21 EU Countries, 5 Afrikan Countries (Nigeria, Algeria, Egypt, South-Afrika & Ethiopia) pledge allegiance to Russia. grin cheesy grin

5.) Japan surrenders to China

***Me, sipping orijin, watching news & observing in my 5-bedroom mini-bunker in Ijebu like..... grin cheesy grin
lol
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 3:32pm On Dec 31, 2016
happney65:
Obama had to do this..He had to..The Evidence was there and was glaring the Election was interfered by State sponsored hacking by the Russians..And both people on the other side Democrats and Republicans knew Russia needed to be dealt with..Particularly when it is glaring Trump is in bed with the Russians..A Republican President wld also do such too..especially when we are know they are War Mongers..The Russian hacked both the DNC and the GOP..But why was the emails from the DNC only released to the Public?And mind you,you can see even on this Trump is sitting on the fence..He never condemned this like he condemned the UN resolution against Israel..What does that tell us..Nation First!!!
Where was Obama when Russia too over Crimea? Where was Obama when they invaded Syria. Russia and China have been hacking freely into the US without any reaction from Obama, the question is why now?
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 3:37pm On Dec 31, 2016
raumdeuter:
Below is Anthony Bourdain a liberal

The utter contempt with which privileged Eastern liberals such as myself discuss red-state, gun-country, working-class America as ridiculous and morons and rubes is largely responsible for the upswell of rage and contempt and desire to pull down the temple that we’re seeing now,” Bourdain said in an interview with Reason magazine.

“I’ve spent a lot of time in gun-country, God-fearing America,” Bourdain continued. “There are a hell of a lot of nice people out there, who are doing what everyone else in this world is trying to do: the best they can to get by, and take care of themselves and the people they love. When we deny them their basic humanity and legitimacy of their views, however different they may be than ours, when we mock them at every turn and treat them with contempt, we do no one any good.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/anthony-bourdain-slams-privileged-liberals-for-utter-contempt-of-working-class-151215285.html

Instead of blaming Russia, liberals should take a hard look at themselves

Idiiots like Van Jones are the ones forming their opinion the one who thought electing Trump was a whitelash, when the sam country voted a blackman twice

The iddiot Van jones who thinks having a caucasian wife is his contrbution to racial healing
Obama is trying to start another war. And Putin being the man that he is is going to wait for the adults to take charge. Trump is only 21 days from evicting the children!
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by happney65: 3:49pm On Dec 31, 2016
stanech:
Where was Obama when Russia too over Crimea? Where was Obama when they invaded Syria. Russia and China have been hacking freely into the US without any reaction from Obama, the question is why now?
Lucas CFCMAN,Now i can see stanech just started reading the news for him to be asking where was Obama when Putin took over Crimea..I wont reply you anymore..Thank You
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 4:46pm On Dec 31, 2016
na wah

Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 6:12pm On Dec 31, 2016
Trump tweets, "Happy new year to all, including to my many enemies and those who have fought me and lost so badly they just don't know what to do. Love!"

chai! Trump wicked o!
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 12:12am On Jan 01, 2017
HAPPY NEW YEAR 2017, WISHING YOU ALL, HOME AND ABROAD, A FAVOURED YEAR OF SUCCESS AND ACCOMPLISHMENT IN ALL YOUR ENDEAVOURS.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 12:16pm On Jan 01, 2017
CFCman:
FACT:
- federal workers earn $77,414 a year on average, while their private sector counterparts earn $53,463 per annum.

- The average yearly wage for Americans is $44,000

- The average yearly salary of a White House staffer is $83,000

Source: Bureau of Economic Analysis.

Rachel Maddow earns $20,800 a day on MSNBC shocked
She is worth every Nickel of it.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 12:19pm On Jan 01, 2017
happney65:
Lucas CFCMAN,Now i can see stanech just started reading the news for him to be asking where was Obama when Putin took over Crimea..I wont reply you anymore..Thank You
Stanech and his co travelers in ignorance are into their own World.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 12:21pm On Jan 01, 2017
Lucasbalo:
Stanech and his co travelers in ignorance are into their own World.
Idiot
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 12:22pm On Jan 01, 2017
In 2016 the Globalists got the message in 2017 we will send them parking,,, grin grin

Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 12:32pm On Jan 01, 2017
stanech:
Idiot
With all the problems you are confronting in Nigeria, you are starting the New Year by insulting people. No wonder your life is in shambles.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 1:00pm On Jan 01, 2017
Lucasbalo:
With all the problems you are confronting in Nigeria, you are starting the New Year by insulting people. No wonder your life is in shambles.
Yea. like you care about the problems facing Nigeria
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 1:01pm On Jan 01, 2017
Lucasbalo:
With all the problems you are confronting in Nigeria, you are starting the New Year by insulting people. No wonder your life is in shambles.
Yea. like you care about the problems facing Nigeria


you dont even know me yet you assume my life is in shambles.

You are so pathetic
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by armyofone(m): 10:47pm On Jan 01, 2017
Very childish tweet from Trump. You don't have to rub it on anyone's face.

obixcel:
Trump tweets, "Happy new year to all, including to my many enemies and those who have fought me and lost so badly they just don't know what to do. Love!"

chai! Trump wicked o!
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 9:26am On Jan 02, 2017
stanech:
Yea. like you care about the problems facing Nigeria


you dont even know me yet you assume my life is in shambles.

You are so pathetic
Dummy, at least I am in Nigeria presently and visit Nigeria at least twice a year unlike a fool like you and your cohorts who never see inside of an Aircraft but you googling fools think you are an experts on American politics . Go and recalibrate your brain and make a positive progress to Nigeria. America will be ok regardless of the presidency. I hope most of Nigerian youths are not jobless and worthless like you who eats and sleep about a country you don't have a skin in.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 9:33am On Jan 02, 2017
armyofone:
Very childish tweet from Trump. You don't have to rub it on anyone's face.
The message is not for everyone, it was targeted at some not-so-very-nice folks. To his supporters it was something to laugh about.

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