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Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by cheruv: 9:35am On Jan 03, 2017 |
AkinPhysicist:A throne established in 948AD is what you say is questionable?? A throne that's at least 500 years older than your Oyo stuff and at least 300 years older than Benin's monarchy is what you call questionable Anyway as long as Igbos are part of Nigeria they'd continue to receive insults from nthe likes of you 1 Like |
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by dragonking3: 9:49am On Jan 03, 2017 |
hammerT:So Nnamdi Azikiwe, the greatest igboman that ever lived is now a fool for saying the bitter truth? SMH What will he benefit from the binis by saying all what he said? |
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by cheruv: 9:50am On Jan 03, 2017 |
Cire80:Can you explain more on this experience you're talking about with examples to back it up? |
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by cheruv: 10:08am On Jan 03, 2017 |
Cire80:The founders can be from anywhere bro...what matters is the identity of the person and the identities show they're all Igbo,from Ezechima of the Onicha group to Ezemu of the Ubulus to the Ogeles of Agbò Moreover history has it that before ewuare's reign in 1440, Igbos made up of half of Benin's population but by the end of his rule in 1473, the Igbo population had fled East resulting in the collapse of Ogidi kingdom that was ruling over Anioma then. These newcomers then established new statelets thereby introducing Bini political systems to these areas. If they were Bini like you claim,what happened to the most important part of their identity which is Bini language? 1 Like |
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by cheruv: 10:16am On Jan 03, 2017 |
BornStunner1:By this premise you now agree that Igbos lived in Benin city..kos if they were Bini, at least their names would've showed it just as the name of the founder of the ishans show he's originally Bini. Moreover they're Igboid not Edoid... No body in Anioma is Edoid 1 Like |
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by Cire80: 10:28am On Jan 03, 2017 |
cheruv:Many groups in the North of Nigeria are fast losing their language to Hausa including the almighty Fulani. Some parts of Edo speak Yoruba as a second language and bear Yoruba names but they have nothing to do with Yoruba (Etsako, Ighara), many non Igbo minority groups in Bayelsa and rivers speak Igbo and their language; some of these places are fast losing their language and speaking only Igboid languages. Do you think it's difficult for a language like Igbo to influence the language of minority groups around them? Check Anioma languages and culture, you'll notice that the important Bini words that has to do with tradition and culture are still retained. ogidi was ruling over Anioma? You people are very funny. |
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by cheruv: 10:34am On Jan 03, 2017 |
gregyboy:Conquer the whole Nigeria Nwanne jiri nwayo nātu asi bikō The Bini were already in a state of decline long before the Brits buried them in 1897. The Anioma had already defeated them in the great Ubulu war of 1755 and expelled them from Anioma,ending their almost two centuries of occupying Anioma land. . I'd say the power the British checked and destroyed were the Aro to the East... Had the Brits not come, Arochukwu would've conquered the SE&SS even as far East as Cameroon |
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by Cire80: 10:34am On Jan 03, 2017 |
cheruv:The names of all the founders of Bini founded Anioma Kingdoms are Edoid. Only one that sounds Igboid is Ezechime. Ezechime was originally Ikhime but was corrupted to Ezechime. |
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by cheruv: 10:40am On Jan 03, 2017 |
Cire80:Yes its not related to the one in Anambra state... Its a different one and it was destroyed around 1500. Some Anioma people call it Igidi Concerning the bold part, can you give names of places so that I can verify? |
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by hammerT: 10:44am On Jan 03, 2017 |
cheruv: This is wat most people miss wen discussing the history of Bini, Aro, Oyo and Asanti, is that they all became powerful due to trade with the British in palm oil and predominantly slaves. Thus, alot ammunition and swords were provided by either the British or Portuguese. They ony clashed with the Brits wen the brits decided to make their way in land and control all the commnuities, in otherwords fazing out the middle man. Bini Aro were greatly strengthened by the British for the purpose of slavery and wen the British stopped providing them weapons and money they declined. |
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by cheruv: 10:50am On Jan 03, 2017 |
Cire80:Hmmm Corrupted by who Broz take am easy na dey formulate some of these kind yarns All the books on Anioma history I've read call him Ezechimæ(that æ letter I used is for variability depending on whether you call him ezechima or ezechime). The question everyone is asking which I'd join to ask is how did their names change from Edoid names like we see in Edoid languages eg urhobo, ishan, Bini to Igboid languages eg ika or even ikwere? What changed their names from Bini to Igbo? |
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by RedboneSmith(m): 11:34am On Jan 03, 2017 |
BornStunner1: Use your brain, not your anus. If I show the picture of a Japanese wearing a European suit and the picture of a Briton wearing the same suit, will that be evidence of common ancestry, or simply evidence of western cultural influence on Japan? 3 Likes |
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by Ngozi123(f): 12:09pm On Jan 03, 2017 |
dragonking3: The question is not silly considering that you suggested that he was a Bini man who lived in the Benin Kingdom. Why would a Bini man who until that point seemingly had hardly any connection with the Igbos have an Igbo name? There's still quite a few people in Onitsha and Ogbaru who have Bini sounding names so it's not like they were afraid to keep the 'Benin connection'. |
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by Ngozi123(f): 12:15pm On Jan 03, 2017 |
BornStunner1: I have to ask again: where did I dispute this fact? |
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by BornStunner1: 12:26pm On Jan 03, 2017 |
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by Ngozi123(f): 12:36pm On Jan 03, 2017 |
cheruv: Thank you. This was all that I asked him and he has yet to give me a good answer. It's not like we don't have some people in these communities who have Bini sounding names so why didn't Eze Chima keep his Bini name if he was a full-blooded Bini man? |
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by Ngozi123(f): 12:37pm On Jan 03, 2017 |
BornStunner1: I agree that these people, including my ancestors, once lived under the Benin Empire. I've haven't disputed this fact. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by BornStunner1: 12:57pm On Jan 03, 2017 |
Ngozi123: Okay dear!! How are you? |
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by Ngozi123(f): 12:58pm On Jan 03, 2017 |
BornStunner1: Fine thanks, and you? |
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by BornStunner1: 12:59pm On Jan 03, 2017 |
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by Ngozi123(f): 1:06pm On Jan 03, 2017 |
BornStunner1: Yes, why would I lie? Happy New Year btw. |
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by BornStunner1: 1:13pm On Jan 03, 2017 |
Ngozi123: Same tyu dear I just had to clarify that you are a girl first bcus i wont feel good calling a guy "dear" and all dat |
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by Ngozi123(f): 1:26pm On Jan 03, 2017 |
BornStunner1: Lol. I'm a girl but 'Ngozi' is a unisex name; I've heard of some boys being called Ngozi. |
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by cheruv: 1:29pm On Jan 03, 2017 |
Ngozi123:Seriously the thing baffles me...that's how one Yoruba guy like that was making claims that Yoruba was spoken in Benin city while Bini was spoken in the surrounding areas. The way these guys make spurious claims without backing it up makes me feel they think we're idiots!! How can someone leave Benin and his name suddenly changed from Bini to Igbo without him being Igbo previously That's why am rooting for Anioma state and urge all Igbos whether East or West to support Anioma state creation so that all these infantile insults would cease 1 Like |
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by hammerT: 2:39pm On Jan 03, 2017 |
Ngozi123: I wouldnt consider slave raids as living under Benin Empire. They never crossed the River Niger. The only people that did were the Anioma. Benin Kingdom was powerful in 15 centry due to trade with portugese and later British. Weapons exchanged for slaves and palm oil. If u have any info, pls share, in case am missing something here. |
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by Ngozi123(f): 3:14pm On Jan 03, 2017 |
hammerT: I meant my ancestors, who have always been Igbos, once lived under the Benin Empire but then crossed the River Niger to where they are now. That's all I know... If you have a contradictory story then please feel free to say it. |
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by BornStunner1: 3:42pm On Jan 03, 2017 |
Ngozi123: Ohh lol i didnt know that ...well ppl learn everyday So are you beautiful too bcus most igbo girls are |
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by hammerT: 3:48pm On Jan 03, 2017 |
Ngozi123: Wat prove do u have of this? So Benin was originally igbo is that wat u are saying? Becos that is the only way Benin people can be speaking igbo crossing to Onitsha and answering igbo names. |
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by hammerT: 3:49pm On Jan 03, 2017 |
BornStunner1: y are most benin and yoruba girls not beautiful? inferiority complex! The way u guys go on sometimes, i feel we should pursue all the igbo women to marry all of u and then we go to sudan and kenya to marry very dark skinned women that will produce dark skinned igbo children. That way, u will stop disturbing us. U dont like me and i dont like u, so no need for that type of relations. |
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by hammerT: 3:59pm On Jan 03, 2017 |
This is wat igbo men should do. It will go a long way to remove alot of our problems. This igbo pastor in kenya married a kenya woman that is very dark. We should all abandon igbo women 4 yorubas and co. Let us marry from kenya, sudan and uganda, make sure the women are very dark, then they will leave us alone.
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Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by Ngozi123(f): 4:37pm On Jan 03, 2017 |
hammerT: No. From the little I know, the Benin Kingdom ruled over many different ethnic groups, including some Igbo groups. These Igbo groups migrated eastwards to areas in what is now known as Delta and Anambra State- maybe Rivers State too but I'm not sure on that one. I don't believe that the Igbos have always dwelled in their present locations. I don't have much proof outside of oral traditions as I haven't actually done much research on the topic- I don't like to pretend that I'm well versed in something when I'm not. Btw, what do you mean by "Benin people"- are you referring to the people who lived under the Benin Empire or just the Edoid people? |
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by Ngozi123(f): 4:44pm On Jan 03, 2017 |
cheruv: I agree. This will go a long way to building the bridges between the Western Igbos and their Eastern brethren. Once we've done this, maybe we could also try and canvass for a similar arrangement for the Igbos in Rivers State, excluding the Ikwerre. |
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