TheGoodJoe:


If my memory serves me right, Bayern was fourth on the table before Hynckes took over. By the next game, they were playing better.

nwamehn:


Before Jupp Hynckes won treble at Bayern, Van Gaal coached Bayern and didn't win treble. In fact, the last time Bayern won champions league before that 2013 was in 2001. So u want to tell us that Bayern never had exceptional coaches from 2001/2002 season to 2012/2013 season because they didn't win champions league during those 12 seasons?

nwamehn:


I think, if u ar really sure u can carry 14 trophies including two champions league trophies within four years in Barca with exceptional players like messi, iniesta and xavi, then I must confess u aren't an average coach but an exceptional coach, because I know some coaches that would have those players at their disposal yet cannot achieve same fit. Madrid stayed from 2003 to 2013 without lifting the champions league with all their exceptional players, or do u mean the whole coaches that coached Madrid within those 11 years were all average coaches?
By the way, season never finish for u to conclude that Guardiola exposed himself by coming to England. Don't be surprised if he still lifts the champions or premier league this season.

Segadem:
... well, I didn't get your point,


...but you are the one that is calling him "an exceptional coach"

...and your exceptional coach didn't do anything in Bayern before he left, he can't even match up to the standard he met

Segadem:
for where?
We will be crowned champion

TheGoodJoe:


So when Rijkaard went trophyless for two seasons and Guardiola won six trophies in a calendar year with Barcelona, was Mourinho's theory at work?

When Sunderland was heading to relegation and Gus Poyet took the team, won some top games and escaped relegation, was Mourinho's theory at work?

Segadem:
if mourinho is false or baseless
Why is it that every coach wants to buy a good player?
Everyone wants messi in his team, everyone wants c-r7 in his team, you will see this your so called exceptional coaches fighting for players to buy

The truth must be said no team can win a standard league back to back without the help of good players

nwamehn:


Yea, we will, that I will believe if we ar able to collect one point against Tottenham today. But what of champions league, don't u also believe Guardiola can carry it this season?

TheGoodJoe:


Mourinho's logic is flawed. Heynckes took a Bayern team that was not doing well, resting fourth on the table and the next games, they were scoring three goals and above.

After Leonardo took over a poor performing Inter Milan, they went on a long winning streak.

When Guardiola took a Barcelona who went trophyless for two seasons, they went on to play one of the best football in th history of football, broke records and outplayed Manchester United the Champions League Champion in the Champions League final.

The logic is flawed.

Segadem:
are you saying all these teams u mention parade average players?

nwamehn:


But he raised a standard that nobody had ever met in Barca, how about that? Or u think he is an exceptional coach just because of what he did in Bayern alone?

yeah, he raised a standard that is very difficult to break, and I'm not saying is an average coach, he's a good coach but not an exceptional one, as some people claim him to be

He's just a "lucky one"

TheGoodJoe:


I am saying that Alex Ferguson won the league with 12 points gap and Moyes used the same team for relegation form.

Segadem:
forget it,
...but he make top 4 behind man u, arsenal will be out of top 4 this season
Mark my word

LesbianBoy:
Over-hyped coach! If it was in barca or bayern, by now he would have won the league already! rubbish!

"Special one" is far better!

I am so happy he fell for our "trap" by listening to we "haters" who told him to come to EPL to prove himself!

He (Guardiola) will go trophyless this season!

Btw...How I wish messi will also fall for our "trap" and come to england. Lemme see whether he will win all the trophies like he is doing at barcelona

Segadem:
yeah, he raised a standard that is very difficult to break, and I'm not saying is an average coach, he's a good coach but not an exceptional one, as some people claim him to be

He's just a "lucky one"

TheGoodJoe:


I am saying that Alex Ferguson won the league with 12 points gap and Moyes used the same team for relegation form.

nwamehn:


Lol. Since u aren't saying he is an average coach, then we really have no argument. Because I'm only against the school of thought that holds that he is an average coach.

TheGoodJoe:


Mourinho's logic is flawed. Heynckes took a Bayern team that was not doing well, resting fourth on the table and the next games, they were scoring three goals and above.

After Leonardo took over a poor performing Inter Milan, they went on a long winning streak.

When Guardiola took a Barcelona who went trophyless for two seasons, they went on to play one of the best football in th history of football, broke records and outplayed Manchester United the Champions League Champion in the Champions League final.

The logic is flawed.

TheGoodJoe:


I am saying that Alex Ferguson won the league with 12 points gap and Moyes used the same team for relegation form.

nwamehn:


Yea, we will, that I will believe if we ar able to collect one point against Tottenham today. But what of champions league, don't u also believe Guardiola can carry it this season?

Segadem:
I have never said he's an average coach, (he's a good coach but not an exceptional one) what I said was that he's yet to be proven or tested with average teams, because he hasn't coached average team before, even man city is not an average team, what will happen if he now coach team like everton, Southampton or west brom

Segadem:
he needs to redeem his image by winning the ucl for his admirers and to shun his critics (people like us)
... but can he do it?
NO

nwamehn:


Meaning that a coach is not always as good as his players. Sometimes a coach can be bad while the players ar good, and vice versa.

nwamehn:


So, how do u know an exceptional coach? Is it a coach that has been proven or tested with average teams yet he succeeds?

LesbianBoy:
Over-hyped coach! If it was in barca or bayern, by now he would have won the league already! rubbish!

"Special one" is far better!

I am so happy he fell for our "trap" by listening to we "haters" who told him to come to EPL to prove himself!

He (Guardiola) will go trophyless this season!

Btw...How I wish messi will also fall for our "trap" and come to england. Lemme see whether he will win all the trophies like he is doing at barcelona

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When he has all the best players of the world in his team at Barcelona and they are diving to get the opponent reduced to ten players, he was acting like a Professor of football.

Now, let him do his magic make we see now?
Abi nor be the same football?

And to say you regret starting a player who has scored more goals fro your team from the bench this season, is very demoralising and should not come from a good Coach.
I hope the b@stard is not racist.



Lastpage!

nwamehn:


But he raised a standard that nobody had ever met in Barca, how about that? Or u think he is an exceptional coach just because of what he did in Bayern alone?

Noblesoul123:
So? Man U all the way.
By the way, .....