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Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by Cire80: 12:46am On Jan 08, 2017
Ngozi123:
@cheruv, you might know the answer to this question that that Ika guy refused to answer.
there is no direct answer to your question but I've answered your question indirectly. That issue arose probably because he's including the parts of Anioma that has been cut off from Anioma for a very long time. These communities will understand Enuani more easily because it's the most Igboid of the dialects and they've not been in contact with Ika speakers but they've been in contact with Igbo people in the East . If you're talking about the three major groups in Anioma, this issue will never arise because there's no standardized form of Communication e or lingua franca in Anioma. Each group stick to their tongue
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by cheruv: 12:48am On Jan 08, 2017
Cire80:
And Ika being the generic name for Anioma doesn't necessarily mean Ika was the dominant language but there are many Ika words in all the Anioma languages. It's this shared words that aids easier intelligibility even though our intonation is completely different. [s]Ika is leaned more towards Bini while Ukwani is lean more towards Urhobo and Enuani is mixture of Ika and Igbo with more Igboid intonation among the groups[/s].
We know you're Bini but take it easy with the misinformation abeg...so the presence of a few Bini and Sobo settlers now means that ika and ukwùani now leans towards them? shocked
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by Cire80: 12:51am On Jan 08, 2017
cheruv:
We know you're Bini but take it easy with the misinformation abeg...so the presence of a few Bini and Sobo settlers now means that ika and ukwùani now leans towards them? shocked
OK. Let's forget about Ika. Ukwani and Urhobo is the same intonation.
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by Cire80: 12:58am On Jan 08, 2017
cheruv:
He's correct on that premise...we're all called ika Igbos before and during the war. After the war,the name gradually came to be used on the clans inhabiting the Western parts of Anioma. Here's a 1931 map of the tribes in Igboland backing that up....thats why we laugh to scorn those of them who woke up after the war to claim they're now Bini undecided
there's nothing like Ika Igbo. That was added by desperate Igbos. If Ika obviously was Igbo, why did they have to indicate it there when it was never part of our name?

Ika has never been under the Igbo even from the colonial era. If I'm talking about history I don't like to involve anything European reports because it's always full of errors of completely changing people's name, village names and words. You read some of these their book and have to be the one guessing what they're talking about.
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by cheruv: 1:01am On Jan 08, 2017
Cire80:
Have you been to Abudu? I'm not saying Abudu is Ika but they speak Ika.
See...of all the LGs in Edo state orhiomwon is the one am most interested in bkos of two reasons
1]it surrounds the ika part of delta on almost three sides..only the Eastern border of Ali Ika is with the Enu Ani
2]almost 80% of ika communities outside delta are located in orhiomwon. Igbo-akri(igbanke) that is struggling to have its own LG is located here.

Since you claim that communities there even up to Abudu speak ika, why are they then marginalizing the ika still found in Edo state??
Why are the Bini trying to erase the language and culture of the ika still in Edo and replace them with Bini ones?
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by cheruv: 1:05am On Jan 08, 2017
Cire80:
OK. Let's forget about Ika. Ukwani and Urhobo is the same intonation.
Said whohuh
Can you explain what you mean by that?
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by Cire80: 1:10am On Jan 08, 2017
cheruv:
See...of all the LGs in Edo state orhiomwon is the one am most interested in bkos of two reasons
1]it surrounds the ika part of delta on almost three sides..only the Eastern border of Ali Ika is with the Enu Ani
2]almost 80% of ika communities outside delta are located in orhiomwon. Igbo-akri(igbanke) that is struggling to have its own LG is located here.

Since you claim that communities there even up to Abudu speak ika, why are they then marginalizing the ika still found in Edo state??
Why are the Bini trying to erase the language and culture of the ika still in Edo and replace them with Bini ones?
you're obviously from one of those Eastern States. I don't involve in Edo politics but what do you mean Bini is trying to erase their language and culture? These communities were originally more Edoid than they are now, including Igbanke.

And please there's nothing like Igbo Akiri. It's Igbanke and it was derived from the two biggest igbanke villages of Igbontor and Ake. Please even if you're desperate to claim them, respect their names. Igbo Akiri sounds offensive.
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by Cire80: 1:12am On Jan 08, 2017
cheruv:
Said whohuh
Can you explain what you mean by that?
it's now obvious you know nothing about neither Ukwani and Urhobo if you did you wouldn't want to argue this
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by cheruv:
[quote author=Cire80 post=52625410]
there's nothing like Ika Igbo. That was added by desperate Igbos
Ika Igbo is another name for western Igbo. The name was dropped after the war in which Anioma replaced it.
If Ika obviously was Igbo, why did they have to indicate it there when it was never part of our name?
Ika has always and will remain Igbo... Its an Igbo tribe just like the enuani, ukwuani/ndokwa, ado(onicha), aro, izi etc
Igbo is an umbrella term for all Igboid ethnicities

Ika has never been under the Igbo even from the colonial era[\quote]
You're talking as if we built an imperial state...unlike your Bini people, we Igbos never built an empire.every clan lived as they saw fit without interference from others. The only Igbo tribe that tried to build an empire were the Aro,but their Confederacy was destroyed by the Brits in the Anglo-Aro war of 1902

[quote]If I'm talking about history I don't like to involve anything European reports because it's always full of errors of completely changing people's name, village names and words. You read some of these their book and have to be the one guessing what they're talking about
Enyi if you don't call them who'd you callhuh
Yes they made mistakes here and there yet they did a great work. Even your Bini people didn't have a written language even though they built an empire. The only Igbo tribe that tried writing were the Aro...they wrote Igbo using a script they borrowed from their neighbors to the Cameroon mountains.
Look at this map of Igboland and see how detailed the British were

Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by BornStunner1: 1:30am On Jan 08, 2017
Cire80:
Have you been to Abudu? I'm not saying Abudu is Ika but they speak Ika.
ABUDU DO NOT SPEAK IKA...... WTF IS IKA?

IGBANKE PEOPLE THAT ARE CHANGING THIER NAMES TO EDO NAMES BCUS OF SERIOUS INFLUENCE OF BENIN LANGUAGE

BENIN LANGUAGE IS NOW EVEN SPOKEN IN ANIOMA VILLAGES IN DELTA




DO NOT SAY WAT U KNOW NOTHING ABOUT

http://gloriaadagbon..com/2011/04/igbanke-forgotten-minority-in-edo-state.html
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by cheruv: 1:36am On Jan 08, 2017
Cire80:
[s]you're obviously from one of those Eastern States[/s]. I don't involve in Edo politics but what do you mean Bini is trying to erase their language and culture? These communities were originally more Edoid than they are now, including Igbanke.

And please there's nothing like Igbo Akiri. It's Igbanke and it was derived from the two biggest igbanke villages of Igbontor and Ake. Please even if you're desperate to claim them, respect their names. Igbo Akiri sounds offensive.
Am an Anioma son or what Easterners call Western Igbos... Whether you believe or not is your headache not mine.
Am interested in Edo politics bkos there are Anioma people there. Anioma is spread out over five states and am interested in their politics as well
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by cheruv: 1:42am On Jan 08, 2017
BornStunner1:
ABUDU DO NOT SPEAK IKA...... WTF IS IKA?

IGBANKE PEOPLE THAT ARE CHANGING THIER NAMES TO EDO NAMES BCUS OF SERIOUS INFLUENCE OF BENIN LANGUAGE

BENIN LANGUAGE IS NOW EVEN SPOKEN IN ANIOMA VILLAGES IN DELTA




DO NOT SAY WAT U KNOW NOTHING ABOUT

http://gloriaadagbon..com/2011/04/igbanke-forgotten-minority-in-edo-state.html
Cire80...you can see that your Bini brother has substantiated my claims
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by BornStunner1: 1:45am On Jan 08, 2017
cheruv:
Cire80...you can see that your Bini brother has substantiated my claims
AND WHAT CLAIM IS THAT?
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by gregyboy(m): 1:55am On Jan 08, 2017
hammerF:
Does anybody now know wat Eweka means in Benin? I am still waiting Oooo!

Emeka abi na Iweka was the name of the first Oba of Benin. He was Igbo.
guy i told u b4 it gat no meaning its a slang wic was convert to a name or if u chooae not to believe me come to benin and ask for the book izoduwa or idoduwa or still gogle the name
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by BornStunner1: 1:59am On Jan 08, 2017
gregyboy:
guy i told u b4 it gat no meaning its a slang wic was convert to a name or if u chooae not to believe me come to benin and ask for the book izoduwa or idoduwa or still gogle the name
EWEKA MEANS DO NOT SLEEP FOR LONG

ITS BROKEN DOWN AS >> É WIE KÀ

É WIE - MEANS DO NOT SLEEP

KÄ - MEANS TO DRY IN THIS CONTEXT IT MEANS FOR LONG!

GIVEN THE INTRIGUES OF THE PALACE AT THAT TIME ITS NO WONDER HE WAS NAMED SO!!


Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by gregyboy(m):
BornStunner1:
EWEKA MEANS DO NOT SLEEP FOR LONG

ITS BROKEN DOWN AS >> É WIE KÀ

É WIE - MEANS DO NOT SLEEP

KÄ - MEANS TO DRY IN THIS CONTEXT IT MEANS FOR LONG!

GIVEN THE INTRIGUES OF THE PALACE AT THAT TIME ITS NO WONDER HE WAS NAMED SO!!


you are forming meaning to it my friend am a benin most names our ancestor bear then only few we could read meaning to unlike in the present age nw when u hear names and understand thier meaning
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by hammerF: 2:21am On Jan 08, 2017
BornStunner1 post=52625853:


[s][s]EWEKA MEANS DO NOT SLEEP FOR LONG

ITS BROKEN DOWN AS >> É WIE KÀ

É WIE - MEANS DO NOT SLEEP

KÄ - MEANS TO DRY IN THIS CONTEXT IT MEANS FOR LONG!

GIVEN THE INTRIGUES OF THE PALACE AT THAT TIME ITS NO WONDER HE WAS NAMED SO!!
[/s][/s]

TROLL!
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by RedboneSmith(m): 5:50am On Jan 08, 2017
Cire80:
The oneness is recent? Lol. No need responding to this. What do you know about Oko? Oko that I know are greatly Igala. Even more Igala than Asaba.
And what do you know about Ogbaru? You think it is only in Anioma that you have communities with some Bini or Igala elements? Go to the southeast, especially Anambra and Enugu and ask them about their history, and you'll be surprised how many communities have Igala roots.

Ossomala and Oko are brothers, with Oko being the elder brother. Ask any Oko man about what i have just written. Oko and Ossomala share much more kinship than Oko and Agbor will ever share. Anioma oneness is recent and artificial.
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by ariesbull: 7:51am On Jan 08, 2017
hammerF:
Does anybody now know wat Eweka means in Benin? I am still waiting Oooo!

Emeka abi na Iweka was the name of the first Oba of Benin. He was Igbo.
Pls don't mistake Eweka which is Benn word for iweka which is Igbo


Iweka means ....Anger is greater or great anger in Igbo
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by Cire80: 7:56am On Jan 08, 2017
BornStunner1:
ABUDU DO NOT SPEAK IKA...... WTF IS IKA?

IGBANKE PEOPLE THAT ARE CHANGING THIER NAMES TO EDO NAMES BCUS OF SERIOUS INFLUENCE OF BENIN LANGUAGE

BENIN LANGUAGE IS NOW EVEN SPOKEN IN ANIOMA VILLAGES IN DELTA




DO NOT SAY WAT U KNOW NOTHING ABOUT

http://gloriaadagbon..com/2011/04/igbanke-forgotten-minority-in-edo-state.html
Abudu doesn't speak Ika? And Bini language is now spoken in Anioma villages in Delta? You sound so ignorant. No need arguing with you.
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by Cire80: 8:23am On Jan 08, 2017
RedboneSmith:
And what do you know about Ogbaru? You think it is only in Anioma that you have communities with some Bini or Igala elements? Go to the southeast, especially Anambra and Enugu and ask them about their history, and you'll be surprised how many communities have Igala roots.

Ossomala and Oko are brothers, with Oko being the elder brother. Ask any Oko man about what i have just written. Oko and Ossomala share much more kinship than Oko and Agbor will ever share. Anioma oneness is recent and artificial.
your comments make me laugh. All your explanations doesn't indicate any form of kinship. If you are not an Anioma, don't come here and start telling us about Anioma oneness which you would never understand except you feel it. I'm from Anioma and I know my people well, especially those of still in Delta and Edo. You can't tell me about people I've been with all my life even my life outside the Shores of Nigeria, I still feel close to home because I associate with my people.
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by Cire80: 8:26am On Jan 08, 2017
cheruv:
Cire80...you can see that your Bini brother has substantiated my claims
That one doesn't know anything. My Abudu friends say we're all one and they speak our language. But I'm not claiming Abudu to be an Ika community because I don't know their history.
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by KingOvoramwen1(m): 8:30am On Jan 08, 2017
Cire80:
That one doesn't know anything. My Abudu friends say we're all one and they speak our language. But I'm not claiming Abudu to be an Ika community because I don't know their history.
YOU ARE THE ONE WHO KNOWS NOTHING!!

AND YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY NOT BENIN SO HIDE YOURSELF!!
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by KingOvoramwen1(m): 8:31am On Jan 08, 2017
Cire80:
Abudu doesn't speak Ika? And Bini language is now spoken in Anioma villages in Delta? You sound so ignorant. No need arguing with you.
ABUDU DOES NOT SPEAK IKA.......INFACT IT IS LAUGHABLE TO THINK SUCH!

IKA MY FOOT!!!
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by KingOvoramwen1(m): 8:34am On Jan 08, 2017
gregyboy:
you are forming meaning to it my friend am a benin most names our ancestor bear then only few we could read meaning to unlike in the present age nw when u hear names and understand thier meaning
YOU ARE NOT BENIN!!

IF YOU WERE U WOULD KNOW BORNSTUNNER1 IS RIGHT!!

DO NOT TALK WAT U KNOW NOTHING ABOUT!!
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by KingOvoramwen1(m): 8:36am On Jan 08, 2017
[quote author=hammerF post=52624969][/quote]




WHO IS THIS ONE TALKN POO SINCE? angry angry angry





Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by BornStunner1: 8:42am On Jan 08, 2017
KingOvoramwen1:
gregyboy YOU ARE NOT BENIN!!

IF YOU WERE U WOULD KNOW BORNSTUNNER1 IS RIGHT!!

DO NOT TALK WAT U KNOW NOTHING ABOUT!!




DONT MIND DAT ONE WHO DOESNT EVEN KNOW THE MEANING OF HIS SURNAME!!

HE IS OBVIOUSLY LOST!!

Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by KingOvoramwen1(m): 8:46am On Jan 08, 2017
BornStunner1:




DONT MIND DAT ONE WHO DOESNT EVEN KNOW THE MEANING OF HIS SURNAME!!

HE IS OBVIOUSLY LOST!!

HAHAHAHAHA grin grin grin grin grin grin grin JESUS!! WTF shocked shocked

Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by Cire80: 8:47am On Jan 08, 2017
KingOvoramwen1:
YOU ARE NOT BENIN!!

IF YOU WERE U WOULD KNOW BORNSTUNNER1 IS RIGHT!!

DO NOT TALK WAT U KNOW NOTHING ABOUT!!
Who's this one? Do you know the distance between Abudu and Ogan, Owa, Iru and other Ika speaking parts of Edo? In my first comment, I made it clear that some of these communities are bilingual and some speak Ika as a second language. I've been to many of these Ika speaking communities in Edo. I've never been to Abudu but I have friends from there that speak Ika and they said they speak Ika in their place.
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by Cire80: 8:55am On Jan 08, 2017
NB:I'm not claiming any of these communities as Ika. My point is that some places in Edo speak and understand Ika some speak Ika and Bini either more of Bini or more of Ika while some only understand little Ika. I've been with people from this area.
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by BornStunner1: 8:56am On Jan 08, 2017
Cire80:
Who's this one? Do you know the distance between Abudu and Ogan, Owa, Iru and other Ika speaking parts of Edo? In my first comment, I made it clear that some of these communities are bilingual and some speak Ika as a second language. I've been to many of these Ika speaking communities in Edo. I've never been to Abudu but I have friends from there that speak Ika and they said they speak Ika in their place.
THOSE YOUR FRIENDS ARE CLEALY IGBANKE PEOPLE WHO RESIDE IN ABUDU IS DAT NOT CLEAR TO U.......... STOP BEING IGNORANT!!

KINGOVORAMWEN1 KNOWS MORE ABOUT EDOID AFFAIRS THAN U CAN EVER KNOW IN A THOUSAND YEARS!!
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by BornStunner1: 8:59am On Jan 08, 2017
Cire80:
NB:I'm not claiming any of these communities as Ika. My point is that some places in Edo speak and understand Ika some speak Ika and Bini either more of Bini or more of Ika while some only understand little Ika. I've been with people from this area.
YOU ARE REFFERING TO IGBANKE PEOPLE....... IKA IS BEEN WIPED OUT AS MORE IGBANKE PEOPLE OVER THE YEARS HAVE PICKED UP BINI LINGUA FRANCA..... SOME OF THEM ARE ALSO BILINGUAL WHICH IS EXPECTED!!!
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