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Re: Nigerian Students In Canada: How Do You Survive? by d4guy: 3:32pm On Jan 08, 2017
dogice:


I hardly hear of Agricultural courses in Canada. Maybe colleges in Saskatchewan might offer something. You might wanna try that
Thanks bro
Re: Nigerian Students In Canada: How Do You Survive? by dogice(m): 5:03pm On Jan 08, 2017
Teddywhiz1:
@dogice.... How are the prospects after studies for an engineer... What's the minimum wage in Manitoba to be precise... Because in the UK engineers don't have job security because they are in competition with the cheap labour

There are numerous opportunities for engineer after studies. Sometimes, it takes time but you'd eventually get something if you're patient like in my case. The Civil and Electrical guys are doing well right now because IT is booming and construction/maintenance is always going on as per an advanced nation. Chemical/mechanical is struggling right now because of the oil thingy but the automotive sector is usually the fall back for these guys. Minimum wage is usually $10 per hour for basic McDonalds, KFC and Subway kinda jobs.

My engineer friends in UK told me about the whole UK thing. I don't understand why we Nigerians rush to the UK with their economic situation but what do I know. I remember when I was writing my CELPIP exam for PR, there were British in the room doing the same exam to immigrate to Canada I kid you not.

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Re: Nigerian Students In Canada: How Do You Survive? by HarveySpecter1: 9:06pm On Jan 09, 2017
dogice:


There are numerous opportunities for engineer after studies. Sometimes, it takes time but you'd eventually get something if you're patient like in my case. The Civil and Electrical guys are doing well right now because IT is booming and construction/maintenance is always going on as per an advanced nation. Chemical/mechanical is struggling right now because of the oil thingy but the automotive sector is usually the fall back for these guys. Minimum wage is usually $10 per hour for basic McDonalds, KFC and Subway kinda jobs.

My engineer friends in UK told me about the whole UK thing. I don't understand why we Nigerians rush to the UK with their economic situation but what do I know. I remember when I was writing my CELPIP exam for PR, there were British in the room doing the same exam to immigrate to Canada I kid you not.

Hi bro, please what is the average wage for civil engineers in Ontario ? I would be coming over for Meng at uottawa. Can I combine work and school or will one suffer for the other? What kind of work can I get while in graduate school? I have some substantial experience in structural engineering in Nigeria, can that help me get a structural engineering job while I school?

Btw, what course did you study?
Re: Nigerian Students In Canada: How Do You Survive? by Teddywhiz1: 10:49pm On Jan 09, 2017
dogice:


There are numerous opportunities for engineer after studies. Sometimes, it takes time but you'd eventually get something if you're patient like in my case. The Civil and Electrical guys are doing well right now because IT is booming and construction/maintenance is always going on as per an advanced nation. Chemical/mechanical is struggling right now because of the oil thingy but the automotive sector is usually the fall back for these guys. Minimum wage is usually $10 per hour for basic McDonalds, KFC and Subway kinda jobs.

My engineer friends in UK told me about the whole UK thing. I don't understand why we Nigerians rush to the UK with their economic situation but what do I know. I remember when I was writing my CELPIP exam for PR, there were British in the room doing the same exam to immigrate to Canada I kid you not.
with what you said,do you mean after studying electrical engineering one might end up doing menial McDonald and KFC job? is it a good investment to do undergraduate electrical engineering in university of Manitoba or I should just settle for nursing?
Re: Nigerian Students In Canada: How Do You Survive? by dogice(m): 12:25am On Jan 10, 2017
HarveySpecter1:


Hi bro, please what is the average wage for civil engineers in Ontario ? I would be coming over for Meng at uottawa. Can I combine work and school or will one suffer for the other? What kind of work can I get while in graduate school? I have some substantial experience in structural engineering in Nigeria, can that help me get a structural engineering job while I school?

Btw, what course did you study?

As an EIT (Engineer In Training) average salary varies. It could be $40,000 per year to $65,000 per year depending on the company. Big companies like SNC Lavalin, EXP, PLC contractors pays EIT as much as $60,000 per year. It's always difficult to find a job while in school but it's not impossible for sure. You could apply for a Co-Op program though. But after graduation, I can 100% guarantee you as a Civil Engineer, you would get a Civil Engineering job. It might take time and the pay might not be huge at the start but the experience is always critical. Then by the time you become a professional engineer, you'd be golden.

I studied Chemical Engineering (B.Sc.)

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Re: Nigerian Students In Canada: How Do You Survive? by dogice(m): 12:39am On Jan 10, 2017
Teddywhiz1:
with what you said,do you mean after studying electrical engineering one might end up doing menial McDonald and KFC job? is it a good investment to do undergraduate electrical engineering in university of Manitoba or I should just settle for nursing?

No bro, you asked for the minimum wage in Manitoba which is what they pay McDonalds, KFC etc workers. As an engineer you would earn more for sure lol. You should relatively get job easily as an Electrical Engineer especially if you have some IT experience.

Engineering is always a noble profession and it is always a good investment but at the same time, nothing is sure in this life. I have heard of doctors that are jobless. Confam!!!. As long as you do not limit yourself by applying to only the top companies like Goldman Sachs, Rogers,Bell etc you'd get a job with time. It's all about flexibility. For example, I studied Chemical Engineering but I'm currently working in a Mechanical Engineering company maybe I might go back to Chemical when Oil bounces back. But who knows

As for Nursing, you'd get a job even before graduation. Nursing is 100% no doubt. But it is all about what you love at the end of the day.

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Re: Nigerian Students In Canada: How Do You Survive? by Teddywhiz1: 2:12am On Jan 10, 2017
dogice:


No bro, you asked for the minimum wage in Manitoba which is what they pay McDonalds, KFC etc workers. As an engineer you would earn more for sure lol. You should relatively get job easily as an Electrical Engineer especially if you have some IT experience.

Engineering is always a noble profession and it is always a good investment but at the same time, nothing is sure in this life. I have heard of doctors that are jobless. Confam!!!. As long as you do not limit yourself by applying to only the top companies like Goldman Sachs, Rogers,Bell etc you'd get a job with time. It's all about flexibility. For example, I studied Chemical Engineering but I'm currently working in a Mechanical Engineering company maybe I might go back to Chemical when Oil bounces back. But who knows

As for Nursing, you'd get a job even before graduation. Nursing is 100% no doubt. But it is all about what you love at the end of the day.
ok, I applied for trv with engineering maybe if I get there and see things for myself I might switch to nursing for convenience!

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Re: Nigerian Students In Canada: How Do You Survive? by Patrick2go: 11:29am On Jan 10, 2017
dogice:


Try Brandon University, Memorial University of NewFoundland, Dominican University College, St. Thomas University, Saint Paul University.

Many Thanks @dogice; I'm really touched by your kind gestures.Believe me,This is rare!
Dominican&st.Thomas offers basically theological&art progs, while brandon uni as well as MUN doesn't provide such.
if any lead,sharing will be most welcomed.Thank you for the efforts thus far.

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Re: Nigerian Students In Canada: How Do You Survive? by Nobody: 12:01pm On Jan 10, 2017
Bro, I just concluded my NYSC and I have a HND in Mechanical Engineering.
Presently I'm learning a trade here in Nigeria as the government careless about her youths. Truth is,this trading thing ain't really my thing,I don't really like it. I admire the idea of schooling in canada,and I have a father who could @least sponsor my trip.
What sort of graduate program would I be absorbed into taking cognisance of my hnd certificate? PGD or Undergradute program
Is it possible for me to school and work @ same time?
I don't really have anybody in canada,with this in mind,do u think schooling in canada is still possible?
How much do u think is required for such a project?

I'd be glad to read your reply..Thanks!
dogice:


No bro, you asked for the minimum wage in Manitoba which is what they pay McDonalds, KFC etc workers. As an engineer you would earn more for sure lol. You should relatively get job easily as an Electrical Engineer especially if you have some IT experience.

Engineering is always a noble profession and it is always a good investment but at the same time, nothing is sure in this life. I have heard of doctors that are jobless. Confam!!!. As long as you do not limit yourself by applying to only the top companies like Goldman Sachs, Rogers,Bell etc you'd get a job with time. It's all about flexibility. For example, I studied Chemical Engineering but I'm currently working in a Mechanical Engineering company maybe I might go back to Chemical when Oil bounces back. But who knows

As for Nursing, you'd get a job even before graduation. Nursing is 100% no doubt. But it is all about what you love at the end of the day.
Re: Nigerian Students In Canada: How Do You Survive? by Nobody: 12:22pm On Jan 10, 2017
How can I get to know this agent too. I' be grateful if you provide a link or a cell no. Thanks!
mzjennypher:
Good day House,

Please i would like to study in canada masters preferably but an agent said they can only help for pdg (am using agent cos i do not have proof of funds which they promised to provide). my question now is, is pdg okay and would it be possible to get pr while studying? i hope to get advice from this great house.
Re: Nigerian Students In Canada: How Do You Survive? by dogice(m): 2:09pm On Jan 10, 2017
illuminated93:
Bro, I just concluded my NYSC and I have a HND in Mechanical Engineering.
Presently I'm learning a trade here in Nigeria as the government careless about her youths. Truth is,this trading thing ain't really my thing,I don't really like it. I admire the idea of schooling in canada,and I have a father who could @least sponsor my trip.
What sort of graduate program would I be absorbed into taking cognisance of my hnd certificate? PGD or Undergradute program
Is it possible for me to school and work @ same time?
I don't really have anybody in canada,with this in mind,do u think schooling in canada is still possible?
How much do u think is required for such a project?

I'd be glad to read your reply..Thanks!

How do you plan to sponsor you education since you said your dad would sponsor your trip. Canada allows working up to 20hrs/week during school session and full time after school session. So you'd need to have some money to pay your bills and tuition. Hustling can't cover everything but I feel you bro.

With your Mechanical Engineering Diploma, you have limitless options, you could do IT, Engineering or Business related certifications in a cheap college. Like a 1 year program that aint too expensive. You can school for a semester (4 months), hustle during the 4 months break, save up and complete your last semester. You can even work longer to save up more money. That's an option for you there.

But at the end of the day, you need to proof to the embassy that you have enough money to sustain yourself without working. That's left to you to figure out. You don't need to know anybody in Canada to survive. I moved here when I was a teenager and I knew nobody.

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Re: Nigerian Students In Canada: How Do You Survive? by Nobody: 2:26pm On Jan 10, 2017
Thanks for replying. The idea of an IT certification sounds plausible. But would such certification be a PGD or a PGC? I plan going to a credible consultancy agent to help educate me on this issue of schooling abroad,because i don't think it's something I can do on my own. On the issue of survival,i know that I need funds from home,but then,i still need to work over there just to add up.
How would you advice me to go about the admission process and documentation.
dogice:


How do you plan to sponsor you education since you said your dad would sponsor your trip. Canada allows working up to 20hrs/week during school session and full time after school session. So you'd need to have some money to pay your bills and tuition. Hustling can't cover everything but I feel you bro.

With your Mechanical Engineering Diploma, you have limitless options, you could do IT, Engineering or Business related certifications in a cheap college. Like a 1 year program that aint too expensive. You can school for a semester (4 months), hustle during the 4 months break, save up and complete your last semester. You can even work longer to save up more money. That's an option for you there.

But at the end of the day, you need to proof to the embassy that you have enough money to sustain yourself without working. That's left to you to figure out. You don't need to know anybody in Canada to survive. I moved here when I was a teenager and I knew nobody.
Re: Nigerian Students In Canada: How Do You Survive? by dogice(m): 2:48pm On Jan 10, 2017
illuminated93:
Thanks for replying. The idea of an IT certification sounds plausible. But would such certification be a PGD or a PGC? I plan going to a credible consultancy agent to help educate me on this issue of schooling abroad,because i don't think it's something I can do on my own. On the issue of survival,i know that I need funds from home,but then,i still need to work over there just to add up.
How would you advice me to go about the admission process and documentation.

It doesn't really matter to be honest. Depends on what you want. You can do a 1 year certification or a 2 year diploma. As per the admission process, first thing is to look up a couple of schools and apply. Try to apply to at least 2 schools or 3 depending on your financial capability. Get your admission and start from there. Try Humber College, Fanshawe College or you could just look up schools online if you want.
Re: Nigerian Students In Canada: How Do You Survive? by Nobody: 3:42pm On Jan 10, 2017
My broda, I really do appreciate you for taking your time to make me enlightened. I will apply to the 2 aforementioned schools you listed. But what I don't know is this, assuming I go for the 2yrs diploma,would it be possible to proceed to a masters class or what next would be after the diploma course, phd, msc or....... Pls enlighten me on this diploma certification. Thanks!
dogice:


It doesn't really matter to be honest. Depends on what you want. You can do a 1 year certification or a 2 year diploma. As per the admission process, first thing is to look up a couple of schools and apply. Try to apply to at least 2 schools or 3 depending on your financial capability. Get your admission and start from there. Try Humber College, Fanshawe College or you could just look up schools online if you want.
Re: Nigerian Students In Canada: How Do You Survive? by Aboutmyhair05(f): 3:48pm On Jan 10, 2017
Hello smiley, please my husband got his admission to a uni(PG) in Ontario for May 2017 intake can he still put his student visa application and me an open work permit? considering how long it takes for applications.thanks
Re: Nigerian Students In Canada: How Do You Survive? by dogice(m): 3:53pm On Jan 10, 2017
illuminated93:
My broda, I really do appreciate you for taking your time to make me enlightened. I will apply to the 2 aforementioned schools you listed. But what I don't know is this, assuming I go for the 2yrs diploma,would it be possible to proceed to a masters class or what next would be after the diploma course, phd, msc or....... Pls enlighten me on this diploma certification. Thanks!

After your diploma, it is always good to get a job and gain valuable experience. Apply, apply and apply for jobs. Even a Co-op/Internship won't hurt you while in school. But at the end of the day, you can always go for a Masters Program after your Diploma if you have good grades. As for the Certification, you might not a able to get into a Masters program with that but I'm not so sure about that however, you can get a job with it.

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Re: Nigerian Students In Canada: How Do You Survive? by jiri123: 5:48pm On Jan 10, 2017
Any one in thunder Bay Ontario?

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Re: Nigerian Students In Canada: How Do You Survive? by Teddywhiz1: 7:43pm On Jan 10, 2017
dogice:


After your diploma, it is always good to get a job and gain valuable experience. Apply, apply and apply for jobs. Even a Co-op/Internship won't hurt you while in school. But at the end of the day, you can always go for a Masters Program after your Diploma if you have good grades. As for the Certification, you might not a able to get into a Masters program with that but I'm not so sure about that however, you can get a job with it.
dogice are you in Manitoba? Or anyone in Manitoba? Winnipeg to be precise

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Re: Nigerian Students In Canada: How Do You Survive? by dogice(m): 9:05pm On Jan 10, 2017
Teddywhiz1:
dogice are you in Manitoba? Or anyone in Manitoba? Winnipeg to be precise

I'm in Ontario bro

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Re: Nigerian Students In Canada: How Do You Survive? by Teddywhiz1: 12:16am On Jan 11, 2017
dogice:


I'm in Ontario bro
all of una too like Ontario lol grin

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Re: Nigerian Students In Canada: How Do You Survive? by justwise(m): 6:47am On Jan 11, 2017
dogice:


There are numerous opportunities for engineer after studies. Sometimes, it takes time but you'd eventually get something if you're patient like in my case. The Civil and Electrical guys are doing well right now because IT is booming and construction/maintenance is always going on as per an advanced nation. Chemical/mechanical is struggling right now because of the oil thingy but the automotive sector is usually the fall back for these guys. Minimum wage is usually $10 per hour for basic McDonalds, KFC and Subway kinda jobs.

My engineer friends in UK told me about the whole UK thing. I don't understand why we Nigerians rush to the UK with their economic situation but what do I know. I remember when I was writing my CELPIP exam for PR, there were British in the room doing the same exam to immigrate to Canada I kid you not.

If your friend is jobless in the UK its not because of UK economy because this economy is stronger than it was last year.

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Re: Nigerian Students In Canada: How Do You Survive? by Teddywhiz1: 1:55pm On Jan 11, 2017
justwise:


If your friend is jobless in the UK its not because of UK economy because this economy is stronger than it was last year.
@justwise according to the question I asked him I didn't say engineers were jobless but most degree holders (engineers) are in competition with cheap labour.. Employers hire cheaper labour therefore making most engineers not having a job of their standard! The main reason why people are diving into nursing and health related courses.... I just wanted to know if it's the same in Canada because my brother in the UK said I should go for nursing
Re: Nigerian Students In Canada: How Do You Survive? by dogice(m): 2:11pm On Jan 11, 2017
justwise:


If your friend is jobless in the UK its not because of UK economy because this economy is stronger than it was last year.

My friend is actually not jobless in the UK, he has a job in his field. Not quite sure where that came from.
Re: Nigerian Students In Canada: How Do You Survive? by noblealuu: 4:34pm On Jan 11, 2017
dogice:


My friend is actually not jobless in the UK, he has a job in his field. Not quite sure where that came from.

hello dogice what chances in terms of job availability are there in Ontario for someone who studied B. Ed in Education and English Language and intends migrating to Canada via student route? What do you advice please? Am thinking of suggesting to the fellow to do her MSc here in Nigeria in other to stand a chance of pursuing a PhD in Canada since the finance to even pursue an MSc in Cd is constrained considering the present economy. please I need your sincere advice. thank you.

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Re: Nigerian Students In Canada: How Do You Survive? by dogice(m): 5:02pm On Jan 11, 2017
noblealuu:


hello dogice what chances in terms of job availability are there in Ontario for someone who studied B. Ed in Education and English Language and intends migrating to Canada via student route? What do you advice please? Am thinking of suggesting to the fellow to do her MSc here in Nigeria in other to stand a chance of pursuing a PhD in Canada since the finance to even pursue an MSc in Cd is constrained considering the present economy. please I need your sincere advice. thank you.

Hi,

For B. Ed, an option would be for her to go all the way to PhD, just like you suggested, she could do her Masters in Nigeria, work towards a very high grade point, graduate and apply for a PhD program in Education and work as a Professor. She should easily get an offer upon graduation at the university with that route. At least I know a few Nigerians working as Prof. with Doctorate degree

OR
If she's not too much into academics, if possible, she could do her Masters program here in Human Resources Management or something similar. With this, she could work in a university as non academic staff as an Educational Advisor, Professional Coordinator, Program Evaluator or even work for any company in any field as a Human Resource Personnel/Hiring Manager.

OR
If she's into a little bit of Math, calculations and Statistics, she could do a Masters in Business or Economics though I'm not quite sure if she would need to take some bridging courses to get an admission in an Econs/Business program. And work in Banks, Insurance firms or pretty much anywhere tbh.

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Re: Nigerian Students In Canada: How Do You Survive? by Aboutmyhair05(f): 5:36pm On Jan 11, 2017
dogice:


After your diploma, it is always good to get a job and gain valuable experience. Apply, apply and apply for jobs. Even a Co-op/Internship won't hurt you while in school. But at the end of the day, you can always go for a Masters Program after your Diploma if you have good grades. As for the Certification, you might not a able to get into a Masters program with that but I'm not so sure about that however, you can get a job with it.


hi am new on this platform and still trying to find my way around, i noticed youve been helpful on the tread kindly respond to my enquiry :
Hello, please my husband got his admission to a uni(PG) in Ontario for May 2017 intake can he still put his student visa application and me an open work permit? considering how long it takes for applications.thanks
Re: Nigerian Students In Canada: How Do You Survive? by noblealuu: 6:21pm On Jan 11, 2017
God bless you richly Dogice. You've done justice to this.

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Re: Nigerian Students In Canada: How Do You Survive? by Nobody: 6:45pm On Jan 11, 2017
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Re: Nigerian Students In Canada: How Do You Survive? by dogice(m): 11:37pm On Jan 11, 2017
Aboutmyhair05:



hi am new on this platform and still trying to find my way around, i noticed youve been helpful on the tread kindly respond to my enquiry :
Hello, please my husband got his admission to a uni(PG) in Ontario for May 2017 intake can he still put his student visa application and me an open work permit? considering how long it takes for applications.thanks

Hello,

Yes, tell him to put in his application ASAP, I believe the processing time from Nigeria is 17 weeks as per http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/index.asp . Though based on what I have seen on this forum, it might take longer but at the end of the day, worst case scenario is to defer your admission if you get your visa and you can't make it for May. Just try and keep in touch with your school and if you think time is running out, defer the admission if possible.

So for your own case, I'm just wondering, are you trying to apply for an open Work Permit from Nigeria? and what type of open work permit? I am kinda confused. Let me know.

Btw, I'm not that experienced with Canadian Immigration from Nigeria these days as I did mine almost 10 years ago from this same forum. Thanks to guys like Justwise, Delta007, Fidelo etc and I am still very grateful(They were the legends back then). So I believe a lot must have changed by now. But if it has to do with surviving in Canada/US like schooling, jobs, hustling professional development, paper renewal, PR etc; I'd be happy to add my 10 cents here based on my little experience.

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Re: Nigerian Students In Canada: How Do You Survive? by Nobody: 1:57am On Jan 12, 2017
Teddywhiz1:
@justwise according to the question I asked him I didn't say engineers were jobless but most degree holders (engineers) are in competition with cheap labour.. Employers hire cheaper labour therefore making most engineers not having a job of their standard! The main reason why people are diving into nursing and health related courses.... I just wanted to know if it's the same in Canada because my brother in the UK said I should go for nursing
The job situation in Canada is almost same as UK. Only diference is that there're more vacancies for minimum wage jobs in Canada than in the UK; hence competition for minimum wage job is not fierce. However; for any job that pays well above minimum wage, it's same as the UK. There's tough competition except you are in some highly demanded careers in the health sector. In summary, there are also many professionals in Canada working cheap labour jobs just like in the UK.

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Re: Nigerian Students In Canada: How Do You Survive? by dogice(m): 3:10am On Jan 12, 2017
shinarambo1:

The job situation in Canada is almost same as UK. Only diference is that there're more vacancies for minimum wage jobs in Canada than in the UK; hence competition for minimum wage job is not fierce. However; for any job that pays well above minimum wage, it's same as the UK. There's tough competition except you are in some highly demanded careers in the health sector. In summary, there are also many professionals in Canada working cheap labour jobs just like in the UK.

Bro, I totally and honestly agree with you on this because technically speaking, Canada is in recession as we speak. I worked in Alberta for 2 years before moving to Ontario last year. But guess what, Ontario is not doing too bad AT ALL. There are jobs here and I am talking about professional jobs in Engineering and IT. I can confidently say there are professional jobs in Ontario. For example, I convinced my friend in Civil to move from Edmonton to Toronto just 3 months ago and bro, he got at least 3 job offers with numerous interview. Now he has a job in his field. Same thing for me. I started my M.Sc at The U of Toronto in Sept because of the Oil crash but I was able to get a full time professional job and I switched schooling to part time plus work full time now.

One reason is due to the relatively weaker Canadian dollar against the US dollar nowadays, Manufacturing Automotive companies in the US are doing more of their manufacturing here in Canada because they would save more especially when we talk about millions of dollars worth of project, and as Canada is the largest trading partner (country) the US has when you combine import and export. Just like my company, we have a plant in Michigan and most of the job is done in the GTA these days.

But yeah, just like you said, no job is in high demand like the health sector even when the economy is booming.

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