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Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by TonyeBarcanista(m): 4:41pm On Jan 13, 2017
By TonyeBarcanista

I read the well publicized article in which respected Bishop David Oyedepo of Winners Chapel called for the killing and sliding of throats of potential Muslims/Fulani attackers. In the words of Oyedepo

“You catch anyone that looks like them, kill him! There is no reporting to anybody. Kill him! Pull off his neck! And we spill his blood on the ground. What nonsense.”

Bishop Oyedepo Views Against Christian Doctrine:
The call by Bishop Oyedepo with due respect goes contrary to the Christian teachings going by what is recorded in the Bible as well as Bible teaching on how Christians should live.

Firstly, Jesus, our perfect example displayed it when in the book of Matthew 26:52, he condemned Apostle Peter for cutting off the ears of one of the servants of the High Priest that went to arrest him, named Malchus. Jesus not only healed the servant but admonished Peter that "for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword."

The action of Jesus Christ in the above story was in line with his teaching in the Mountain as recorded in Matthew 5:44, where he said But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;, as against "an eye for an eye" treatment that was practised by the Judaisers under the Mosaic law that was never perfect.

His disciples and the Christian Church lived according to this teaching by not retaliating even in the height of persecution during the Roman empire that saw Apostles Paul beheaded, Peter crucified under Emperor Nero, and other members of the early Church die violent deaths under the rule of Roman emperors. In fact, during that period, God showed John the beloved revelation of the last day BUT never did he empower him to retaliate or kill.

If Jesus Christ and the early Church stuck to Christian doctrine, where did Bishop Oyedepo got his own authority?

What Makes Us Christians:
The believers were first called Christians in Antioch because they displayed the rare characters of Jesus Christ. If this is true, it is safe that the thing that made us Christians is our leading of the life of Christ, not that of any man irrespective of title. If we can't be like Christ and heed to his teachings then we have no business calling ourselves Christians. Jesus stance against retaliating to the oppressing Romans made the Jews to prefer him to die instead of the violent Barnabas. We must be like Christ by insisting on non violence.

If Apostle James could admonished the early Church that was facing trials of various kind because of their faith to "count it all joy", how much more us?



His Call Against Nigeria Law:
Despite the fact that we have choose to accept our society to be lawless, the law of Nigeria is clearly against incite to kill fellow citizens and residents, as well as taking laws into ones hands aka self help.

The only authority empowered to bring defaulters of the law to justice is the Police and other agents of the State. No citizen has that power. As citizen, it is our civil duty to avail the Police and other security agents information to arrest criminals potential criminals and their activities. While jungle justice is usually employed by citizens due to ineptitude of the authorities, it never made the act right. But for one to incite the gruesome killing of people that "appear" as attackers and not just attackers, it is unfortunate. statement like “You catch anyone that looks like them, kill him!” must be condemned by all, and without partiality.

If these statements were made by Asari Dokubo or Nnamdi Kanu, I am very sure that the authorities won't take it lightly. The law must respect nobody irrespective of perceived standing in the society.

Statements Endangering Christians And Non Christians:
BEfore any war is fought, there is usually inciting statements from so called leaders. The statements credited to some Muslim groups and clerics, as well as this credited to Governor Elrufai and Bishop Oyedepo is what fuels sectarian violence in Nigeria. Truth is, should there be violence (like we have in Southern Kaduna), it is ONLY the defenceless innocent that get killed, while the elites and their families are fully secured. Nigerians, both Christians and Muslims must understand that the elite are never enemies irrespective of their noise in the media.

The statement of Oyedepo is capable of causing counter statement from some Islamic leaders and attack on citizens will start. The statement is not different from those of Abubakar Shekau or other extremists like Miyetti leaders and some other muslim fanatical clergies.

I condemn the genocide in Southern Kaduna, it is my belief that agents of Kaduna state government as well leaders of Miyetti Allah are complicit in this shameful killing. It is my hope that a case is established against perpetrators of the violence to higher authorities (like the ICC), but it does not in anyway justify incitement against anybody or group of persons.

As Christians we must adhere STRICTLY to Christian doctrine and not apostasy! Bishop David Oyedepo must be called to order.

I shall end this with the Words of Apostle Paul to the Church in Ephesus when the Church was under persecution in the book of Ephesians 6:12;

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.


May God Bless Us All And Bless Nigeria

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Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by thesicilian: 4:43pm On Jan 13, 2017
This OP must be a terrorist. Calling on Christians to defend themselves against the marauding beasts from the north is against the Nigerian law, but the actions of the attackers is not?

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Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by TANTUMERGO007(m): 4:49pm On Jan 13, 2017
The truth is that the OP is just looking for a cheap popularity, with thousands of HATE SPEECHES all over the Northern naija has he for once said anything to condemn those ani mals. They keep killing innocent Christians and you expect us to fold our arms and watch them slaughter us. Truth is that we can't fold our hands while they kill innocent children and women while we wait for a government that don't value human lives....




THESE CRIMINALS FROM BUHARI's TRIBE ROAM ABOUT KILLING AND DESTROYING HUMAN BEINGS AND THE OP EXPECTS US TO WATCH WHILE ALL THESE ACTS ARE BEING DONE....





TonyeBarcanista:

What will Jesus do?
What will you do when a fu la ni comes to attack your wife/baby, probably you going to act like Jesus by allowing them kill your family and pray that God would forgive them smh

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Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by Nobody: 4:49pm On Jan 13, 2017
SHARAAP AND CALL YOUR BUHARI TO ORDER

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Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by omofunaab(m): 4:49pm On Jan 13, 2017
we have gotten to a point where we have to speak against these murderous Fulani herdsmen .

To be sincere, i will be ashamed of my tribe if they are the ones going about causing havoc in different parts of the country. No Fulani elder statesman has tried to rebuke his tribesmen instead they are busy fighting those speaking against this menace.

May Almighty Allah punish any Fulani herdsman that is planning to cause havoc anywhere in this country.

Only them in enugu, plateau, benue, nassarawa, kaduna.

.are they the only tribe in this country

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Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by TonyeBarcanista(m): 4:49pm On Jan 13, 2017
thesicilian:
This OP must be a terrorist. Calling on Christians to defend themselves against the marauding beasts from the north is against the Nigerian law, but the actions of the attackers is not?
Lol the terrorist is one that calls for killing against another group...


Look at the mirror bro

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Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by biaframustcome: 4:51pm On Jan 13, 2017
Unfortunately when the government of the day fails to do their primary responsibility ie guarantee security of its citizens, chaos becomes the order of the day.
Everybody should just give up, the country is dead.

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Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by ammyluv2002(f): 4:51pm On Jan 13, 2017
omofunaab:
we have gotten to a point where we have to speak against these murderous Fulani herdsmen .

To be sincere, i will be ashamed of my tribe if they are the ones going about causing havoc in different parts of the country. No Fulani elder statesman has tried to rebuke his tribesmen instead they are busy fighting those speaking against this menace.

May Almighty Allah punish any Fulani herdsman that is planning to cause havoc anywhere in this country.

Only them in enugu, plateau, benue, nassarawa, kaduna.

.are they the only tribe in this country

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Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by Oba22: 4:51pm On Jan 13, 2017
It is called self-defense. The killing must stop.
Meanwhile attacked is the best form of defense.

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Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by signature2012(m): 4:51pm On Jan 13, 2017
TonyeBarcanista:
Lol the terrorist is one that calls for killing against another group...


Look at the mirror bro
Why not go to his office and call him to order.#Epka.

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Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by yaki84: 4:51pm On Jan 13, 2017
Op na afonja.........


Coward n a betrayer.

Infact op na tonye iscariot!

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Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by TonyeBarcanista(m): 4:52pm On Jan 13, 2017
signature2012:

Why not go to his office and call him to order.#Epka.
Why not execute his views and see what happens next?

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Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by thesicilian: 4:53pm On Jan 13, 2017
TonyeBarcanista:
Lol the terrorist is one that calls for killing against another group...


Look at the mirror bro
Show me screenshots of anywhere you have ever spoken against the random, senseless killings by your mad-cow-disease-infested brothers?

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Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by Nobody: 4:54pm On Jan 13, 2017
Nigeria with Religion of hatred, Muslim hates Xtian, Xtian hates pagan . The weapons of mass destruction is not but religion. #teamhomosapien#
#teamsloveall#

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Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by felicitywe(m): 4:54pm On Jan 13, 2017
To create a thread dat he made such a statement is nt enough evidence bc we v seen where yoruba guys on nairaland will create lie and push it up but for d wisdom of d op in nairaland.at what forum did he make such statemnt nd what tells u he was refering to ethnic clashes.mind u im nt a member of his church.

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Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by Splinz(m): 4:55pm On Jan 13, 2017
Oyedebo is simply ranting. The fact is, something is definitely wrong with mainstream 'churchianity'.

Imagine such an outburst from a supposedly man of God? Very unchristian!

Here's the thing. It is either Oyedebo is not well versed in Scriptures to know the mind of God concerning persecutions and attacks on true Christians (he can never claim that all those meaningless curses were from God), or he's simply deceiving himself.

Does it mean that he doesn't trust God to save His own? Is God no longer the ALMIGHTY capable of wiping off all His enemies within a twinkling of an eye if He so wish? Does Oyedebo not trust His promises?

The Scriptures says: "The LORD is good, a strong hold in the day of trouble; and He knoweth them that trust in Him" (Nahum 1:7).

This is what we know and testify to! And no power can touch the Lord's elects!

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Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by TonyeBarcanista(m): 4:55pm On Jan 13, 2017
thesicilian:

Show me screenshots of anywhere you have ever spoken against the random, senseless killings by your mad-cow-disease-infested brothers?
You don't need further screenshot, just see the original post.

I condemn the genocide in Southern Kaduna, it is my belief that agents of Kaduna state government as well leaders of Miyetti Allah are complicit in this shameful killing. It is my hope that a case is established against perpetrators of the violence to higher authorities (like the ICC), but it does not in anyway justify incitement against anybody or group of persons.

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Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by iluvdonjazzy: 4:55pm On Jan 13, 2017
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Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by signature2012(m): 4:57pm On Jan 13, 2017
TonyeBarcanista:
Why not execute his views and see what happens next?
Gerrout from my mention.You are their this criminals call fulani herdsmen are killing peole in different part of the country,the shortee of a governor after so many weeks in which the deed was done,called for a meetimg with the military,you could not write about him nor the president who kept mum not until so many weeks,but he his very ready to fight for gambia.
Jusy imagine you have a relative as one of the victims,you wont open that your mouth to utter bullsh!t.

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Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by Naija9090: 4:58pm On Jan 13, 2017
TonyeBarcanista:
[s]I read the well publicized article in which respected Bishop David Oyedepo of Winners Chapel called for the killing and sliding of throats of potential Muslims/Fulani attackers. In the words of Oyedepo

“You catch anyone that looks like them, kill him! There is no reporting to anybody. Kill him! Pull off his neck! And we spill his blood on the ground. What nonsense.”

Bishop Oyedepo Views Against Christian Doctrine:
The call by Bishop Oyedepo with due respect goes contrary to the Christian teachings going by what is recorded in the Bible as well as Bible teaching on how Christians should live.

Firstly, Jesus, our perfect example displayed it when in the book of Matthew 26:52, he condemned Apostle Peter for cutting off the ears of one of the servants of the High Priest that went to arrest him, named Malchus. Jesus not only healed the servant but admonished Peter that "for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword."

The action of Jesus Christ in the above story was in line with his teaching in the Mountain as recorded in Matthew 5:44, where he said But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;, as against "an eye for an eye" treatment that was practised by the Judaisers under the Mosaic law that was never perfect.

His disciples and the Christian Church lived according to this teaching by not retaliating even in the height of persecution during the Roman empire that saw Apostles Paul beheaded, Peter crucified under Emperor Nero, and other members of the early Church die violent deaths under the rule of Roman emperors. In fact, during that period, God showed John the beloved revelation of the last day BUT never did he empower him to retaliate or kill.

If Jesus Christ and the early Church stuck to Christian doctrine, where did Bishop Oyedepo got his own authority?

What Makes Us Christians:
The believers were first called Christians in Antioch because they displayed the rare characters of Jesus Christ. If this is true, it is safe that the thing that made us Christians is our leading of the life of Christ, not that of any man irrespective of title. If we can't be like Christ and heed to his teachings then we have no business calling ourselves Christians. Jesus stance against retaliating to the oppressing Romans made the Jews to prefer him to die instead of the violent Barnabas. We must be like Christ by insisting on non violence.

If Apostle James could admonished the early Church that was facing trials of various kind because of their faith to "count it all joy", how much more us?



His Call Against Nigeria Law:
Despite the fact that we have choose to accept our society to be lawless, the law of Nigeria is clearly against incite to kill fellow citizens and residents, as well as taking laws into ones hands aka self help.

The only authority empowered to bring defaulters of the law to justice is the Police and other agents of the State. No citizen has that power. As citizen, it is our civil duty to avail the Police and other security agents information to arrest criminals potential criminals and their activities. While jungle justice is usually employed by citizens due to ineptitude of the authorities, it never made the act right. But for one to incite the gruesome killing of people that "appear" as attackers and not just attackers, it is unfortunate. statement like “You catch anyone that looks like them, kill him!” must be condemned by all, and without partiality.

If these statements were made by Asari Dokubo or Nnamdi Kanu, I am very sure that the authorities won't take it lightly. The law must respect nobody irrespective of perceived standing in the society.

Statements Endangering Christians And Non Christians:
BEfore any war is fought, there is usually inciting statements from so called leaders. The statements credited to some Muslim groups and clerics, as well as this credited to Governor Elrufai and Bishop Oyedepo is what fuels sectarian violence in Nigeria. Truth is, should there be violence (like we have in Southern Kaduna), it is ONLY the defenceless innocent that get killed, while the elites and their families are fully secured. Nigerians, both Christians and Muslims must understand that the elite are never enemies irrespective of their noise in the media.

The statement of Oyedepo is capable of causing counter statement from some Islamic leaders and attack on citizens will start. The statement is not different from those of Abubakar Shekau or other extremists like Miyetti leaders and some other muslim fanatical clergies.

I condemn the genocide in Southern Kaduna, it is my belief that agents of Kaduna state government as well leaders of Miyetti Allah are complicit in this shameful killing. It is my hope that a case is established against perpetrators of the violence to higher authorities (like the ICC), but it does not in anyway justify incitement against anybody or group of persons.

As Christians we must adhere STRICTLY to Christian doctrine and not apostasy! Bishop David Oyedepo must be called to order.

I shall end this with the Words of Apostle Paul to the Church in Ephesus when the Church was under persecution in the book of Ephesians 6:12;

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.


May God Bless Us All And Bless Nigeria

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Arrant Nonesense. Where were you when hundreds and thousands were massacred and butchered in Benue and Southern Kaduna? I don't support violence but be fair to write a long epistle like this when Christians are maimed and massacred for nothing! Is Buhari paying you to write this? Who is paying you?

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Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by TANTUMERGO007(m): 4:58pm On Jan 13, 2017
TonyeBarcanista:
Lol the terrorist is one that calls for killing against another group...


Look at the mirror bro
i don't know how best to put it, I pray you don't experience such. With the way the government is closing its mouth to all these criminal acts by the so-called 'FOREIGNERS', you still expect men to fold their arms and watch how they are being killed....... Write with wisdom and stop looking for a cheap popularity

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Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by Baawaa(m): 4:59pm On Jan 13, 2017
No no,I will open my eyes looking at terrorists killing people around me and I am able to defend myself,if terrorists kill one lnnocent person I will kill ten terrorists.

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Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by ScotsReferendum: 4:59pm On Jan 13, 2017
Tonyebarcanista don't cross your boundary without first confirming from God who inspired his speech

Be very careful through prayers

May be when your family is visited by herdsmen then will you reason properly angry

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Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by morereb10: 4:59pm On Jan 13, 2017
ooh, chai, i have really lost a great friend. With this foolish and unguarded statement you made Tonye, you are indeed a bigot nonetheless.

So upon all the killings going on in this country, all you can come out and admonish Christians to do is to turn the other chick if they r hit? Who are you to say Oyedepo should be called to order?

That Bible you are quoting, you don't actually know it. Because God is a consuming fire and he consumes any person that declares himself his enemy. How many fights did Moses fought before getting to promise land? I bet he would have remained like a lamb so that his enemies will over run him. As far as their is God, their has been great killings on his behalf. quote me anywhere.

And as far as killings go, I keep telling people .. hhhmmmm. hmmmm.. that Islam is not more heartless than Christians. If you are a good historian, go and read history very well. Islam no reach anywhere. I keep telling people, if Christians start.. eh, especially the Catholics, the world will come to stand still.

Go and read history and read about the great persecution and read about the wiping away of women and read about the killings that gave birth to what we call the Bible today which was brought together in 'the council of nessie'.

Read about how Christianity was even created, you will know that Islam is playing with fire.

You come here come dey talk nonsense because your morals told you to be like Christ, you will be a lamb.

nonsense

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Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by tolulinks(m): 4:59pm On Jan 13, 2017
Op your head is not correct

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Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by LordIsaac(m): 5:01pm On Jan 13, 2017
OP is right....the Apostles went through worse and never lifted a sword. What we are practicing now is not christianity but religion. Where is the sacrifice, self-denial and long suffering which is part of the cross we must carry for righteousness' sake?
Is the Bishop reversing the Sermon on the Mount, where Christ condemned the mosaic law of "an eye for an eye?" I know what I'm saying now is difficult to practice...this is where I need that God's grace the Bishop always preaches, not only in respect of prosperity and possessing the earth. It is only by grace "for by the arms of flesh shall no man prevail."

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Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by TonyeBarcanista(m): 5:02pm On Jan 13, 2017
TANTUMERGO007:

i don't know how best to put it, I pray you don't experience such. With the way the government is closing its mouth to all these criminal acts by the so-called 'FOREIGNERS', you still expect men to fold their arms and watch how they are being killed....... Write with wisdom and stop looking for a cheap popularity

Unfortunately, making inciting statements only worsen the problem and causes more deaths. FACT! Beside, it is 100% Unchristian-like and absolutely unlawful

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Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by Kondomatic(m): 5:02pm On Jan 13, 2017
This op is an idiot

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Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by PedroJP(m): 5:03pm On Jan 13, 2017
I wanted to rush in and write "thunder fire this OP", but reading through the post, it was as if i was been preached to.


I won't fail to call out his hypocrisy though. He waited for Oyedepo to defend the Christian kingdom before he reacted to the killings against christians. Some fought for Christianity that you are practising today. If they had allowed muslime fanatics wipe them out believing in not retaliating for the sake of Christ, i doubt there would be any religion by now called Christianity. Yes, persecution must come but Christ didn't ask you to be dumb. He only asked you to remain steadfast in faith. Shikena.

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Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by TonyeBarcanista(m): 5:03pm On Jan 13, 2017
ScotsReferendum:
Tonyebarcanista don't cross your boundary without first confirming from God who inspired his speech

Be very careful through prayers
God did not inspire anything... Stop Blaspheming

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Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by comos: 5:04pm On Jan 13, 2017
this ops is nothing but a coward

may the fulani herdsmen visit your community,

then maybe the cowards in you will deceide your next action

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Re: Inciteful Statement: Bishop David Oyedepo Must Be Called To Order by rengsho: 5:05pm On Jan 13, 2017
One of them (Terrorist,/Fulani) should go near Him (Oyedepo) and see if they will leave to tell the story. Just Try and see.

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