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felixomor:
Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Even Isaiah later confirmed it that somebody was going to be born.

The plan was already in the pipeline.

All I see is contradiction n misinterpretation of words

aminusanti:
All I see is contradiction n misinterpretation of words

I am not surprised.
As expected.

"God is not a man, that he should lie, nor a son of man, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?  (From the NIV Bible, Numbers 23:19)"

So afta destroyin nations for worshipping anytin oda dan him, he now changed his mind and said ok now worship my son jesus.

ibtz:
Y? Y did u sickly translate Quran 3:54 .
Yusuf Ali
Wa ma karuu wamakarallahu wa allahu khayru l- makeeren.

The correct translation is. And they plotted (to kill Isa A. S) and Allah plotted too, and Allah is the Best of those who plot.

The translation is 'deceive' and not 'plot'. By the way, why did allahh deceive the people to make them believe Jesus was crucified? What does allahh have to gain doing this?

alBHAGDADI:
You didn't read the verse at all. When the early Christians were getting killed, was it not called persecution?

See what the below verse says about when we are persecuted.

Mathew 5:44But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;


Christ says we should pray for them, not persecute them too like Mohammad commanded Muslims.

If jesus said pray for thy enemies, he also said dis:

Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
Matthew:7:12

So mehn if ur lyf is in danger, protect ur sef.

true2god:
The translation is 'deceive' and not 'plot'. By the way, why did allahh deceive the people to make them believe Jesus was crucified? What does allahh have to gain doing this?

Pls oo, wich transalation r u reading oo.
I am reading Yusuf Ali oo. Or ar u arab nii?

Do u know arabic at all?

See u ppl sef doin as if u follow d teachins of christ

And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
Matthew:6:5

Do u follow dat verse above,

Or dis one,
Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
Matthew:6:2

Now read dis post on easter by femi aribisala a christian
https://www.nairaland.com/3013047/why-christians-should-not-celebrate

aminusanti:
Again! you don't know what you doing
you can call me anything you want to but you are dumb and ignorant of many things not only your religion
am just looking at u here, u are buzy bragging for 2-3days on this thread but contributed nothing but thrash
who do u think u can deceive with that approach saying choose YES or NO, even if i am to choose YES you have nothing to present
go and educate yourself on what it means by debate on comparative religion. you will loose nothing by saying you are out of idea then exit and give chance to the more knowledgeable amongst you to participate then watch i try to learn from that

hmmm. Mr Muslim.

Empiree:
The dude opened funny thread like these
This thread is similar to op
The Role Christians Played In The Development Of Islam https://www.nairaland.com/532339/role-christians-played-development-islam

Can Rich Christians Make This Happen? Another N100, 000 up for grabs https://www.nairaland.com/2352142/rich-christians-make-happen-another

My God, My God, Why Have You Forsaken Me? https://www.nairaland.com/487580/god-god-why-forsaken-me

How does this answer the OP Muslim?

ibtz:
Yu said
"Those temptations are d exact same way dat satan has been using to tempt mankind". This is evidence dat Satan only tempts humans, not God. If jesus is God, he wud av all Godlike attributes. U cant say jesus is God and he has only some part of God attributes. This analogy is similar to d greek gods zeus, hades and d rest. Can satan tempt God or a part of God? He wudnt even dare!!!

Is the Op about Jesus' divinity or about Allah helping Christianity to spread? stop jumping like a toad.

aminusanti:
All I see is contradiction n misinterpretation of words

OLODO

felixomor:
God "is" not a man that he should lie.

Please when this verse was written, had Jesus Christ come in man form?

Bros, dont allow these muslims derail this thread nah. they want to turn the thread to something else since they dont have answers to the Op.

A Factual reply to the "Boko Haram" Nonsense!

BOKO HARAM VS RELIGION OF ISLAM

1. The Boko Haram kidnapp girls and force them to change their religion.
While
Islam says: “Let there be no compulsion in religion.....” (Qur’an 2:256)

2. The Boko Haram have forcefully married off girls.
While
Islam says: ".....Do not inherit women against their will....." (Qur’an 4:19)

3. The Boko Haram are aggressive towards those who do not follow their beliefs.
While
Islam says: “IF IT HAD BEEN YOUR LORD’S WILL, all of the people on Earth would have believed [in one religion]….” (Quran 10:99)

4. The Boko Haram have murdered thousands of Muslims and Christians alike in cold blood.
While
Islam says: “….If any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people...” (Quran 5:32)

5. The Boko Haram use the cover of Islam to commit their mayhem and claim they are doing ALLAH'S work or JIHAD (HOLY WAR).
While
Islam says: “…… BUT DO NOT TRANSGRESS LIMITS; FOR GOD LOVES NOT TRANSGRESSORS.” (Qur’an 2:190)"

6. The Boko Haram believe once you are not with them you are an enemy to them.
While
Islam says: “O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise each other)......” (Quran 49:13)

7. The Boko Haram have unleashed tyranny and indecency in the land.
While
Islam says: “God commands justice and doing good and giving to relatives. And He forbids indecency and doing wrong and tyranny....” (Quran 16:90)

Finally, upon all their false claims it is clear to see that Boko Haram do not represent Islam in any way because, they are acting against Islam.

analice107:
Bros, dont allow these muslims derail this thread nah. they want to turn the thread to something else since they dont have answers to the Op.

Are u minding them?
So much dishonesty in them.

That one just finished using a book called "apocalypse of something something" to argue
When it was time to stand by the book, he said the book is corrupted.

It baffles me. Honestly

babseg:
OLODO

thank u
May ur jesus bless u

alBHAGDADI:
Satan tempts even God. That's why he's called the accuser. He was always opposing God's view while in heaven until he got banished from heaven.

That is highly preposterous, satan tempt God!!! This is blasphemy of d highest order. Satan!!!!!
God!!!!! Woww.

aminusanti:
thank u
May ur jesus bless u

WHY ARE YOU TELLING ME WHAT I ALREADY KNOW

felixomor:
Are u minding them?
So much dishonesty in them.

That one just finished using a book called "apocalypse of something something" to argue
When it was time to stand by the book, he said the book is corrupted.

It baffles me. Honestly

Why baffled u when dat book iz part of your bibles collection? Read how wikipedia lebel it not me

analice107:
Is the Op about Jesus' divinity or about Allah helping Christianity to spread? stop jumping like a toad.

This is d upteenth tym am writin dis yet no one has responded rd below





I believe i av ansad d op question since in my prev posts, pls read my prev posts and if u cant, let me save u d hardwork. I av compiled all my prev posts into one nw below:

God is not responsible for d spread of falsehood, errors and wrongdoings that man perpetuates, satan is responsible for all that.
Jesus told his disciplses to worship one God (thy Lord thy God). I believe jesus neva told his disciples dat "worship me"

Dere are many verses in d bible dat says worship only one God

Matthew 19:16-17
Mark 12:32-34
John 17:3
Mark 12:28-30

Jesus neva said to worship him but thy lord thy God in heaven.
Now lets look at jesus christ as d son of god
What is d definition of son?

'A male child, a boy or man in relation to his parents; one's male offspring".
"A male person who has such a close relationship with an older or otherwise more authoritative person that he can be regarded as a son of the other person."
"A male person considered to have been significantly shaped by some external influence."


There are also many verses in d bible dat call ppl son of God: KJV
Read 1 Chronicles 22:10
Luke 3:38
Romans 8:14
Job 38:7

Frm dis bible verses above we can call various ppl as d son of God
Frm dis we can conclude dat christians falsely believe christ as a biological son of God instead of as a man influenced and guided by God

Lets even luk at dis, God dat destroyed nations for ppl worshipping anytin other than him will now turn around
and present his son for ppl to worship, is dat not accusing God of Double standards, not to even to mention fathering his own biological son from one of his creations isn't dat accusing God of incest.Glory be to God. There is no other God except Allah

Now u say d term "son of God " is a jewish custom, so it means son of God is not divine but the term son of man is divine?
Look at it "Son of Man", really?

So no God is not responsible for it.
If by ur logic God is also responsible for d spread of idol worship which persists till today. Then i ask u Is God Responsible for d spread of Idol worship.

babseg:
WHY ARE YOU TELLING ME WHAT I ALREADY KNOW

U know a Man is ur God n he can bless u?
What a looser!

ibtz:
This is d upteenth tym am writin dis yet no one has responded rd below





I believe i av ansad d op question since in my prev posts, pls read my prev posts and if u cant, let me save u d hardwork. I av compiled all my prev posts into one nw below:

God is not responsible for d spread of falsehood, errors and wrongdoings that man perpetuates, satan is responsible for all that.
Jesus told his disciplses to worship one God (thy Lord thy God). I believe jesus neva told his disciples dat "worship me"

Dere are many verses in d bible dat says worship only one God

Matthew 19:16-17
Mark 12:32-34
John 17:3
Mark 12:28-30

Jesus neva said to worship him but thy lord thy God in heaven.
Now lets look at jesus christ as d son of god
What is d definition of son?

'A male child, a boy or man in relation to his parents; one's male offspring".
"A male person who has such a close relationship with an older or otherwise more authoritative person that he can be regarded as a son of the other person."
"A male person considered to have been significantly shaped by some external influence."


There are also many verses in d bible dat call ppl son of God: KJV
Read 1 Chronicles 22:10
Luke 3:38
Romans 8:14
Job 38:7

Frm dis bible verses above we can call various ppl as d son of God
Frm dis we can conclude dat christians falsely believe christ as a biological son of God instead of as a man influenced and guided by God

Lets even luk at dis, God dat destroyed nations for ppl worshipping anytin other than him will now turn around
and present his son for ppl to worship, is dat not accusing God of Double standards, not to even to mention fathering his own biological son from one of his creations isn't dat accusing God of incest.Glory be to God. There is no other God except Allah

Now u say d term "son of God " is a jewish custom, so it means son of God is not divine but the term son of man is divine?
Look at it "Son of Man", really?

So no God is not responsible for it.
If by ur logic God is also responsible for d spread of idol worship which persists till today. Then i ask u Is God Responsible for d spread of Idol worship.

ANOTHER OLODO IN THE HOUSE

PLEASE TELL ME ANY CHRISTIAN THAT WORSHIPS JESUS

WE ARE ONLY FOLLOWING JOHN 3 .16

AND I DONT CARE IF YOU SEE SON OF GOD IN JOHN 3.16

IT WORKING FOR US CHRISTIANS

I GUESS WHATEVER IS IN YOUR QURAN IS NOT WORKING YOU BETTER GIVE YOUR LIFE TO JESUS

INSTEAD OF YOU ATTACKING CHRISTIAN GO TO SAMBISA FOREST AND PREACH THE QURAN TO THEM

aminusanti:
U know a Man is ur God n he can bless u?
What a looser!

WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM WITH THAT

MAY YOUR MOHAMMED GIVE YOU C4

aminusanti:
U know a Man is ur God n he can bless u?
What a looser!

I FEEL LIKE GIVING YOU A SLAP

CANT YOUR MOTHER OR FATHER BLESS YOU?

HAS THAT TURNED THEM TO GOD?

OLODO

babseg:
ANOTHER OLODO IN THE HOUSE

PLEASE TELL ME ANY CHRISTIAN THAT WORSHIPS JESUS

WE ARE ONLY FOLLOWING JOHN 3 .16

AND I DONT CARE IF YOU SEE SON OF GOD IN JOHN 3.16

IT WORKING FOR US CHRISTIANS

I GUESS WHATEVER IS IN YOUR QURAN IS NOT WORKING YOU BETTER GIVE YOUR LIFE TO JESUS

INSTEAD OF YOU ATTACKING CHRISTIAN GO TO SAMBISA FOREST AND PREACH THE QURAN TO THEM

O rily. Christians dont worship jesus. !!!

Lyk wen christians pray, In d name of jesus,
Or wen dey say jesus is lord, or wen dey say jesus is God in Man form, or jesus is divine .Olodo check wat ur fellow Christians av been posting on d thread since and c for ur sef.
Christians dont worship jesus. Lol. Den wat r d worshippin. Mehn u r funny sha.

Analice107 u cannot talk again. Respond now to d reply i gave u

babseg:
I FEEL LIKE GIVING YOU A SLAP

You r not allowed to. Your Man God most be very disappointed with your aggression.
I am d one thats suppose to tear u Slap and u turn and give me the other side to tear u the 2nd time as your God said... hypocrites


CANT YOUR MOTHER OR FATHER BLESS YOU?
Yes they can but only by the will/acceptance of Almighty God but In your man worship religion jesus is the one blessing you people.
How foolish!

HAS THAT TURNED THEM TO GOD?

No sa

OLODO

aminusanti:
You r not allowed to. Your Man God most be very disappointed with your aggression.
I am d one thats suppose to tear u Slap and u turn and give me the other side to tear u the 2nd time as your God said... hypocrites


CANT YOUR MOTHER OR FATHER BLESS YOU?
Yes they can but only by the will/acceptance of Almighty God but In your man worship religion jesus is the one blessing you people.
How foolish!

No sa

I DONT CARE IF YOU THINK I WORSHIP JESUS THATS MY PROBLEM NOT YOURS. ITS STILL DEY PAIN YOU

INSTEAD OF YOU WASTING YOUR TIME ON PEOPLE YOU THINK THAT THEY ARE WORSHIPING JESUS, GO AND PREACH TO YOUR BROTHER IN SAMBISA FOREST FIRST.

babseg:
I DONT CARE IF YOU THINK I WORSHIP JESUS THATS MY PROBLEM NOT YOURS. ITS STILL DEY PAIN YOU

INSTEAD OF YOU WASTING YOUR TIME ON PEOPLE YOU THINK THAT THEY ARE WORSHIPING JESUS, GO AND PREACH TO YOUR BROTHER IN SAMBISA FOREST FIRST.

Wetin dey pain am abeg. Lol. Oga u no get wetin u wan use defend, just go u r allowed too. I repeat again Boko haram does nt stand for islam watsoever.

A Factual reply to the "Boko Haram" Nonsense!

BOKO HARAM VS RELIGION OF ISLAM

1. The Boko Haram kidnapp girls and force them to change their religion.
While
Islam says: “Let there be no compulsion in religion.....” (Qur’an 2:256)

2. The Boko Haram have forcefully married off girls.
While
Islam says: ".....Do not inherit women against their will....." (Qur’an 4:19)

3. The Boko Haram are aggressive towards those who do not follow their beliefs.
While
Islam says: “IF IT HAD BEEN YOUR LORD’S WILL, all of the people on Earth would have believed [in one religion]….” (Quran 10:99)

4. The Boko Haram have murdered thousands of Muslims and Christians alike in cold blood.
While
Islam says: “….If any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people...” (Quran 5:32)

5. The Boko Haram use the cover of Islam to commit their mayhem and claim they are doing ALLAH'S work or JIHAD (HOLY WAR).
While
Islam says: “…… BUT DO NOT TRANSGRESS LIMITS; FOR GOD LOVES NOT TRANSGRESSORS.” (Qur’an 2:190)"

6. The Boko Haram believe once you are not with them you are an enemy to them.
While
Islam says: “O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise each other)......” (Quran 49:13)

7. The Boko Haram have unleashed tyranny and indecency in the land.
While
Islam says: “God commands justice and doing good and giving to relatives. And He forbids indecency and doing wrong and tyranny....” (Quran 16:90)

Finally, upon all their false claims it is clear to see that Boko Haram do not represent Islam in any way because, they are acting against Islam.

ibtz:
Wetin dey pain am abeg. Lol. Oga u no get wetin u wan use defend, just go u r allowed too. I repeat again Boko haram does nt stand for islam watsoever.

A Factual reply to the "Boko Haram" Nonsense!

BOKO HARAM VS RELIGION OF ISLAM

1. The Boko Haram kidnapp girls and force them to change their religion.
While
Islam says: “Let there be no compulsion in religion.....” (Qur’an 2:256)

2. The Boko Haram have forcefully married off girls.
While
Islam says: ".....Do not inherit women against their will....." (Qur’an 4:19)

3. The Boko Haram are aggressive towards those who do not follow their beliefs.
While
Islam says: “IF IT HAD BEEN YOUR LORD’S WILL, all of the people on Earth would have believed [in one religion]….” (Quran 10:99)

4. The Boko Haram have murdered thousands of Muslims and Christians alike in cold blood.
While
Islam says: “….If any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people...” (Quran 5:32)

5. The Boko Haram use the cover of Islam to commit their mayhem and claim they are doing ALLAH'S work or JIHAD (HOLY WAR).
While
Islam says: “…… BUT DO NOT TRANSGRESS LIMITS; FOR GOD LOVES NOT TRANSGRESSORS.” (Qur’an 2:190)"

6. The Boko Haram believe once you are not with them you are an enemy to them.
While
Islam says: “O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise each other)......” (Quran 49:13)

7. The Boko Haram have unleashed tyranny and indecency in the land.
While
Islam says: “God commands justice and doing good and giving to relatives. And He forbids indecency and doing wrong and tyranny....” (Quran 16:90)

Finally, upon all their false claims it is clear to see that Boko Haram do not represent Islam in any way because, they are acting against Islam.

SO WHY ARE THEY QUOTING THE QURAN BEFORE KILLING

babseg:
SO WHY ARE THEY QUOTING THE QURAN BEFORE KILLING

They r misquoting dude. They lie, when dey quote dey will only quote part of the verse or omit and skip anoda verse that list conditions for a commandment.
They boko haram are animals and r d enemies of islam
Look at dis verse dat support what i say

Quran 6:159
As for those who divide their religion and break up into sects, thou hast no part in them in the least: their affair is with Allah: He will in the end tell them the truth of all that they did.

ibtz:
They r misquoting dude. They lie, when dey quote dey will only quote part of the verse or omit anf skip anoda verse that list conditions for a commandment to support their animalism

THEY ARE STILL MUSLIMS LIKE YOU

babseg:
THEY ARE STILL MUSLIMS LIKE YOU

Look at dis verse dat supports wat am sayin

Quran 6:159
As for those who divide their religion and break up into sects, thou hast no part in themin the least: their affair is with Allah: He will in the end tell them the truth of all that they did.

So no dey have no basis in the Quran and in islam
Let not the actions of a minority decide d fate of d majority

Boko haram numbers: hundreds
True Muslims : over 2 billion

So y wud u say dat boko haram stands for islam when d over 2 billion majority do not do what they do