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That is old testament bro.

larryUG:
D way David and King Saul defended themselves and Israel.

I agree with you Apostle. The kingdom of God suffereth violence and the violent taketh it by force!!!

MisterGrace:
I think you re blind.

With this, you feel cool you made any intelligent contribution or response to this ?

The kingdom of God taketh things by force. I don sharpen my sword. An eye for an eye.

me69:
The man is a fool

You are not just a fool but a hypocrite of the highest order,
Obviously some people are happy with what Nigeria has become
Just this afternoon we read that Fulani herdsmen killed a man in his farm and yet some of you are calling for the apostle, s head,
How long shall we continue like this

Ogah what are u saying which side are u??

dechriscool:
Sometime we should be careful of our actions.Placing of one group of citizens above another citizens can only breed violence and disunity among the citizenry.
Nigeria has never being divided along ethnic,religion and political line the way it is under president Muhammadu Buhari.
Please Apostle Johnson Suleiman don't use violence to answer violence.It gives rise to bigger violence.I know you are speaking out of frustration for the inability of this useless adminstraction in protecting her citizens against fulani herdsmen.

We know who put us all in this cesspit administration

Self defense? Yes, by all means. But that wasn't what they told us he said. Except the media reported wrongly (which wouldn't exactly be new). If you are not attached, going to attack a defenseless person in the guise of attack being the best form of defense is foolishness at best and terrorism at worst. Nigerians, please, don't just go following anybody's directives blindly. Think critically for yourselves before taking any action.

So the only place i think you remember is sell your garment and buy a sword

Jeromejnr:
Luke 22: 36

Go read it

Read heb 10:32-33

Kowor:
The way Jesus and his disciples defended themselves or the way stephen did? Please explain.

When they come for your father or mother, pls dont shout or condemn it. Thanx.

AntiWailer:
it is sad.



Jos Crisis, Ife Modakeke Crisis, Kaduna Crisis all have history. They should be resolved sensibly.


Instigating violence and hiding under defend yourself is not what a responsible 'Man of God' should do.

I am even tired of Nigeria because it is hard to tell who is scared of EFCC, who lost money in MMM, who missed the money GEJ shared back then and who is genuine.

,Imaging a coment a YOUTH is makin in a sensitiv topic.ar these the one hoping to lead 2mrw.cant make a sensible contribution.these a reasons old hagard illiterate kept on darkening the future of this nation.Too lazy.imateur.senseless cowards.that d describtion of nig youths of today.especial d christian youths.bunch of lazy coward.kudos to IPOB.NDA.

lets just fight this war once and for all enough of God fighting this battle for us Christian pls don't be blind over this issue

[quote author=aanufeb25 post=53122849][/quote]since you can't sit and watch, pick up the gun and start killing and see if sule will join you.

Buying a dog, building a fence, forming vigilante, having armed guards - how does that turn to instigating violence. He said to defend. If you aren't out to kill and destroy Christians you need not worry about Apostle Suleiman.

AntiWailer:
it is sad.



Jos Crisis, Ife Modakeke Crisis, Kaduna Crisis all have history. They should be resolved sensibly.


Instigating violence and hiding under defend yourself is not what a responsible 'Man of God' should do.

I am even tired of Nigeria because it is hard to tell who is scared of EFCC, who lost money in MMM, who missed the money GEJ shared back then and who is genuine.

tuoyoojo:
this is the plain truth.

christian should stop running

we are not cowards

do not go about killing randomly

but if they attack you, by all means defend urself

as long as the government cannot show us one single Libyan they have arrested, then they have to right to ask Christains to just sit down n do nothing

the Bible says if ur enemy snaps u, u should turn the other cheek, if he slaps the other own nkor


Christainity is not mumulity

when thieves n sellers took over the temple, what did jesus do, did he beg them to leave no... he used koboko on them

there is a time to be quiet and der is a time to act

You just described bible confusion. On one hand, receive slap. On the other hand, use koboko.

O brave and mighty one, why didn't you tag with sule to sambisa to fight dem or go to herds men invaded area to kill them

comos:
it is either you are a muslim or a coward

You think when it starts, you'll be able to stand and fight?

Sirheny007:
Beloved fellow Christians, do not listen to this man...

He wants to start a war...

stupid comment. Stupid commentator. Stupid reasoning.... Receive sense!

From the day of John the Baptist till now, the kingdom of God suffereth violence and as such, the violent ones taketh it by force. I totally support Apostle Suleiman because if the muslims kill the christians and they revenge, they will be afraid to attack them again. But if Christians run inside their shell, they will surely attack them again. So every General overseer should equip the security of his church with guns and other fire arms for total self defense......Enough of all these nonsense.

MURIC saying the clergy is out to make the “country unsafe for law abiding Muslims and Fulanis.”

Recall that Suleiman has been in the news lately after he asked his members to kill any Fulani herdsmen seen around him and his church.

In the early hours of this morning, the Ekiti State Governor, Ayodele Fayose had foiled an attempt by operatives of the Department of States Services, DSS, to arrest the clergy man in Ado-Ekiti.

But MURIC, in a statement by its Director, Professor Ishaq Akintola, condemned the hate speech by Sulieman, urging security agencies to do the needful.

Describing Suleiman’s speech as “provocative, irresponsible and unpatriotic,” MURIC urged Nigerians not to allow “some misguided spiritual leaders who have hidden agenda to becloud their sense of assessment.”

The statement sent to DAILY POST, on Wednesday reads: “The founder of Omega Fire Ministries, Johnson Suleman, recently instructed members of his church to kill Fulanis. An attempt by operatives of the Department of State Security (DSS) to arrest him in Ado Ekiti yesterday was foiled by Governor Ayodele Fayose.

“The Muslim Rights Concern (MURIC) strongly condemns Pastor Johnson Suleman’s vituperations. It is provocative, irresponsible and unpatriotic. In the same vein, we are nonplussed by Governor Fayose’s penchant for preventing security agents from performing their lawful duties. By shielding such a high profile suspect, Fayose has manifested blatant disregard for the rule of law, encouraged lawlessness and exhibited executive brigandage.
Pastor Johnson Suleman wants to make the country unsafe for Muslims and law abiding Fulanis. It is not in our character to issue threats. We are mature enough to control our emotions. Yet it is not out of cowardice that we prefer to tow the path of peaceful coexistence. Muslims have never been known to fear death or to compromise their faith. But we do not want to join issues with belligerent people who are always bullying Muslims and Fulanis by telling lies and issuing threats. Neither do we want to heat up the polity.

“What will ordinary Muslims do when we exchange banters with firebrand Christian extremists like Johnson? Why should religious leaders speak as if they have stocked heaps of weapons in hiding? Why should spiritual guides incite their followers to kill and maim? What do religious leaders gain from goading their followers to shed blood?

“The victims are usually the poor masses who are hypnotized by the rhetoric and mesmerized by the oratorical skills of their fanatical leaders. This is why leaders must weigh every word they utter. Leaders are models. They must live by example and teach their followers to learn how to love, to tolerate, to forgive and to peacefully coexist.

“MURIC charges Nigerians to objectively and critically examine the Fulani herdsmen phenomenon. They should not allow some misguided spiritual leaders who have hidden agenda to becloud their sense of assessment. Fulanis have been coming to Nigeria before the 1914 amalgamation. Their nomadic and pastoral flow has never waned since the first Fulanis came from Futa Toro in Senegal in the 11th century. We should therefore not be surprised that the criminal elements among the herdsmen are not even Nigerians. They are Senegalese and Malians.

“It is therefore unwise of us as Nigerians to allow a few lawless foreigners to cause religious or ethnic war in our land. Let us separate criminals from their tribe or religion. We should resist the temptation to stigmatise Fulanis or Muslims because a few herdsmen take the law into their hands. For the avoidance of doubts, we denounce the criminal activities of these herdsmen but we should mind where we point accusing fingers.

Are Nigerians unaware that the same Fulani herdsmen have are also been attacking and killing Muslims in Zamfara, Niger, Kano, Bauchi and other Northern states? Why have we been ignoring this angle if we are sincere? Has the status of a herdsman changed when he attacks a Northern farmer or a Muslim and steals his cattle? Let us be objective. Let us stop criminalizing Fulanis and demonizing Muslims. It is the height of hypocrisy and absolute lack of patriotism to give the criminal activities a religious or ethnic colouration.

“We therefore call on the Nigerian security agencies to do the needful. Nobody is above the law. Fayose or no Fayose, Pastor Johnson Suleman must still be questioned and cautioned for his vituperations and provocative statements. He cannot remain tied to Fayose’s apron string forever.”

Condemning Fayose’s action, the organisation said, “Even Fayose should be told point blank that his days as a free man are numbered. He must answer for his executive rascality and lawlessness. No governor in the history of Nigeria has abused his office like Fayose has done. His cup of executive recklessness has been filled to the brim. The people of Ekiti State have indeed entered a ‘one chance’ bus. Or what do we say about a state governor who is seldom sober? We do not need a micro-biologist to tell us whether or not Fayose has the ‘area boy’ syndrome virus.

We charge the Nigerian security agencies to spare no effort in dealing decisively with the notorious herdsmen who have brought untold hardship to Nigerian farmers. The full wrath of the law must be unleashed on them for killing innocent farmers and destroying their farms. We appeal to Muslims to go about their lawful duties and to remain calm and law abiding. We invite religious leaders to douse tension in their areas of influence in order to allow peace to reign.

“As we round up, we remind the United Nations Organisation, the European Union and the African Union to take note of the hate speeches emanating from Nigeria and their authors for the day when the come will come to become.”
https://www.naij.com/1084627-breaking-muric-orders-arrest-apostle-suleiman.html

Kowor:
So the only place i think you remember is sell your garment and buy a sword Read heb 10:32-33

Read verse 36 of what u quoted and understand d terms.

I know u wont so come back.

This fake MOG should shut up.
TIRED of his nonsense.

Igboro ti daru

YES! We Yoruba Muslims encourage our Christian friends to be timid and lie down whenever Fulani come with their dagger. We will forever server our Fulani lords till they slit our throats!

Sirheny007:
Beloved fellow Christians, do not listen to this man...

He wants to start a war...

MakeADifference:
Buying a dog, building a fence, forming vigilante, having armed guards - how does that turn to instigating violence. He said to defend. If you aren't out to kill and destroy Christians you need not worry about Apostle Suleiman.

MAy be you watch his video

he said

"Any Fulani Man you see here, slaughter him, kill him"

"How about a fight far away and somebody says any Yoruba Man you see around here, Kill him"

If the second statement make you feel some how, how come the first looks normal to you ?

SexyBabe001:
The controversial clergyman took to his twitter account to charge Christians to defend themselves during religious crisis. Apostle Suleman two weeks ago, charged his security officers and church members to behead any H
erdsmen that comes close to him or his church premises

Source:
http://www.ajayiwrites.com/2017/01/i-reyouand the terrorist are thesame
peat-it-christians-defend-yourself.html


https://mobile.twitter.com/APOSTLESULEMAN/status/824154020378005505

you and the terrorist are the same armed your church members and take them to Kaduna for revenge useless

And that was in the new testament. Yes?

toluwalopsy:
David a man after God's heart was a warlord and not only killed Goliath but also chopped off his head and brought it to Jerusalem the earthly city of God. So?

I will say it again and again.

The best thing for this country is either true federalism or everyone goes their seperate ways. Seriously, nothing else will work. Fighting corruption won't work. Nothing will work.

But while this country is still one, we should watch our statements.

I support you man of God. You indeed said Christians would be persecuted unnecessarily this is the beginning. I've heard Imams said the same type of stuff and nobody arrested them. Kings are in the palms of God. Mene Meni... Is the situation.. Your president's days are numbered

Sirheny007:
Beloved fellow Christians, do not listen to this man...

He wants to start a war...

which war? the one that have started or?

Sirheny007:
Beloved fellow Christians, do not listen to this man...

He wants to start a war...

which war? the one that have started or?

Sirheny007:
Beloved fellow Christians, do not listen to this man...

He wants to start a war...

which war? the one that have started or?is it when this finish UA that u will know wotsup

Trust me you don't want to see the days Christians begin to fight back. By the way don't bother asking Christians not to fight back. Most of you here are the same breed that allowed Boko Hiram to become the death it is today.

They killed Mama Bridget and released the suspected killers within six months. That has been happening for ages.

But when people steal pot of stew they are burnt and most people even say good riddance.

Attacks on Christians must stop. Period.

AntiWailer:
See if you recall when they killed people in Kaduna back then that their was reprisal attack in Ogun State.

That is why irresponsible utterances like the one the 'Apostle' said must not be encouraged.

Trust me, you don't want to see a religious clash.

Ask people living in Jos, they will tell the Keyboard Warrior it is not 'reply and click submit' war

My question is "what is our chief security (Mr president) saying about this herdsmen genocide"?

Even if Steven or Jesus chose to defend themselves, it won't be counted against them

Kowor:
The way Jesus and his disciples defended themselves or the way stephen did? Please explain.