i think sey na only naija dumb lawyers dey, so UK too get them plenty.
Shell HQ isnt within UK jurisdiction, why take your suit to another subsidiary company host nation? I no just understand, the crime wasnt by the the UK company so will the UK court order Shell Nigeria to carry out the clean up or order Shell UK to accept liability.
I hope they never pay that lawyer, abi e don see maga wey must pay?

ba7man:
If I talk say make dem no vandalize and blow up pipelines because of the effect on the environment and health, dem go call me "Afonja environmentalist".........So I have nothing to say.

why comment? Una no dey mind una own business. Na so una mouth dey everything wey no concern una

As a means of funding the war between 1967 to 1970, the federal government reached all kinds of agreements with foreign multi national oil companies that totally sold this countrys energy resources to the oil companies. Some of the agreements are so absurd that you start to wonder how a Nigerian could sign such papers. For instance, even as we speak, Nigerian governments depend on 'estimated quotations' to claim earnings from the oil companies. How do i mean? Simple; oil companies extract oil, load that into oil tankers and then write to the federal government to say that on so so and so date we sold so so and so amount of barrels of oil. Then in most cases based on the quoted number, the oil companies take up-to 60% as their operational charge while we then run our budget with the left over.

Many foreign news media houses have characterized this as one of the biggest heist on going in the oil industry. There is no other major oil exporting country that is looted in this way. In-fact countries like Saudi Arabia and co have their oil sector dominated by state owned/indigenous firms. It is only in Nigeria that a state owned oil monopoly kept battling with bankruptcy for years. . What the Niger Delta communities don't know is that the oil companies don't really care about the host communities and their parent countries are in bed with Abuja. All the oil coys need do is to bankroll the campaign of one ruthless ex General who was privy to those agreements that allowed shell and co fund the war and who is ready to use maximum force to maintain peace in the Niger Delta and they are safe. This country has been raped blind. There was a reason why most of these big majors were disposing off their assets during the Jonathan years. If you noticed, all that seem to have stopped with the coming of the brutal one.

win3k:
Niigerians are like the black slaves 400 years ago, you can do anything to them but they will never revolt.
They believe in a god that they never see and they leave everything in the hands of that imaginary god.
in the meantime they are being exploited by everyone.
yeye people!

So wt re u,,,a ghanian??

When an international company is fighting to have its case presided over in Nigeria. This how you know Nigeria is super corrupt.

vengertime:
why comment? Una no dey mind una own business. Na so una mouth dey everything wey no concern una

Enjoy ya oil spill......I be "Afonja environmentalist" so I have nothing to say.

The truth is they don't have jurisdiction over such a case. And, this is why they shouldn't have jurisdiction over Charles Taylor's case and all the other Africans being prosecuted at the international criminal court ICC- cum international criminal court for Africa.

How about thousands of African soldiers that fought alongside British army in the first and second world war? Don't they also have jurisdiction to repatriate their gratuities and pension earnings?

And they are keeping hundreds of artifacts stolen from Africa!!. What right of jurisdiction do they have to keep African artifacts in European museums? As I speak, hundreds of African artifacts are over there crying in British museum. How come they are keeping them; when clearly they have no right of jurisdiction to keep same??

ba7man:
Enjoy ya oil spill......I be "Afonja environmentalist" so I have nothing to say.

good so Waka pass

Truth234:


http://investorsking.com/uk-court-blocks-niger-delta-pollution-claims-against-shell/

Who are the fools taking that litigation to the UK. I doubt they have jurisdiction.

Bring the litigation home or take the to the Hague!

Timelezz:
Who are the fools taking that litigation to the UK. I doubt they have jurisdiction.

Bring the litigation home or take the to the Hague!

I wonder ooo, Netherland dey there ooo, Nigeria dey there, ICC Hague too join, Ecowas abi wetin dem be too dey, na UK dey carry case go.

Timelezz:
Who are the fools taking that litigation to the UK. I doubt they have jurisdiction.

Bring the litigation home or take the to the Hague!

They have no Jurisdiction, yet they can preside over Alamieyeseigha, Allison, Ibori, etc.

OlujobaSamuel:
I wonder ooo, Netherland dey there ooo, Nigeria dey there, ICC Hague too join, Ecowas abi wetin dem be too dey, na UK dey carry case go.

Either they are looking for cheap publicity or they are totally ignorant.

Truth234:


They have no Jurisdiction, yet they can preside over Alamieyeseigha, Allison, Ibori, etc.

All the aforementioned you listed committed financial fraud by acquiring properties illegally and also proved guilty of money laundering in the UK. So British Court had jurisdiction via location of crime.

Not so with Shell.

Timelezz:
All the aforementioned you listed committed financial fraud by acquiring properties illegally and also proved guilty of money laundering in the UK. So British Court had jurisdiction via location of crime.

Not so with Shell.

Shell has offices in the U.K. and subject to U.K. laws per adventure their oversea activities violate the international law of ethics and ethos.

Truth234:


Shell has offices in the U.K. and subject to U.K. laws per adventure their oversea activities violate the international law of ethics and ethos.

I know, being partly owned by UK and Holland. But its operation in Nigeria takes precedence over what laws exist in the UK.

Multinational companies should be tried in international courts or at the municipality of deed.

I comes here i were hoping to see picture, why this Cain of news post without pic?
Anyway i will help you with 1

op they not trying to blame shell for pollution caused by the blowing up of oil pipelines orchestrated by their neighbourhood militants

When we say, that the greatest problem we have in naija is greatest britain foreign policies, we ca never get justice, but iof it is Ibori, the former Governor of Delta state, they will have juridiction, if it is Okah, who is dieing in South African Prison, they will have juridictions, until the youths realize that we needed to stop the British by dividing the country , if nothing but to stop the age long slavery, people are dieing everyday, be it hausa, youroba and or Igbos, we must stand us to stop them, PMB once confess sometime that British goverment assist to install his goverment, believe it or not, let us stop the tribal sentiment, put our struggle together to move out of slavery quicker, do you know that we can never get justice against shell?, ofcourse, reason being that , another group will definitely spring up to ask for their right and shell, may likely go bankrupt just like Asbestors of US did........... they are smart and they will do anything to protect their own, we can as well kick them out of Nigeria without going to their uselkess court

Timelezz:
I know, being partly owned by UK and Holland. But its operation in Nigeria takes precedence over what laws exist in the UK.

Multinational companies should be tried in international courts or at the municipality of deed.

No, its operation doesn't take precedence. The difference was the lawyers, Shell and other multinational companies always boast of having some of the best lawyers.

Truth234:


No, its operation doesn't take precedence. The difference was the lawyers, Shell and other multinational companies always boast of having some of the best lawyers.

Flat out wrong. UK courts have no jurisdiction over any misdoings or acts occuring in Nigeria!!!

All Multinationals are subject to the rules of their domestic countries not their country of origin. And it is Shell Nigeria, remember!!!

The UK court knows it cannot enforce its decisions if it went around to try the case.

That's the legal summary!!!

I prefer uk to London during winter, Lmao

Guyman02:
Taking this matter against Shell to a British court is as stupid as Prince Bola Ajibola leading Nigeria to the International Court of Justice on the issue of Bakassi Peninsula with a French man as judge and expecting him to rule against French dominated Cameroon in our favour.

Those Niger Delta villagers need to see this as it will help them to restrategize better

please stop.all your conspiracy theories,the white men gave us our international bounderies
If they say bakasi is not part of Nigeria, its not, bakasi is to Cameroon what badagry is to Nigerian, now oil has being found in badagry should the people of republic of benin put up same defense we did at the Hague will it fly?

You guys won't let it go, if sokoto is ceded to Niger republic tomorrow morning am sure you won't bat an eyelid

Timelezz:
Flat out wrong. UK courts have no jurisdiction over any misdoings or acts occuring in Nigeria!!!

All Multinationals are subject to the rules of their domestic countries not their country of origin. And it is Shell Nigeria, remember!!!

The UK court knows it cannot enforce its decisions if it went around to try the case.

That's the legal summary!!!

Shell Nigeria has lost a similar case in the Netherland to Ogoni people and ordered to pay compensation.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-21258653

Similarly, Shell Nigeria had to beg to settle out of court with ogoni people in 2009 in New York, USA.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/cif-green/2009/jun/09/saro-wiwa-shell

The difference in this case is the lawyers and the rigid UK law.

Truth234:


Shell Nigeria has lost a similar case in the Netherland to Ogoni people and ordered to pay compensation.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-21258653

Similarly, Shell Nigeria had to beg to settle out of court with ogoni people in 2009 in New York, USA.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/cif-green/2009/jun/09/saro-wiwa-shell

The difference in this case is the lawyers and the rigid UK law.

OK, give me time to study the sources you cited.

I think the UK court declaring it has no jurisdiction is legally correct though.

But let me study your links...

owodokiri:
As a means of funding the war between 1967 to 1970, the federal government reached all kinds of agreements with foreign multi national oil companies that totally sold this countrys energy resources to the oil companies. Some of the agreements are so absurd that you start to wonder how a Nigerian could sign such papers. For instance, even as we speak, Nigerian governments depend on 'estimated quotations' to claim earnings from the oil companies. How do i mean? Simple; oil companies extract oil, load that into oil tankers and then write to the federal government to say that on so so and so date we sold so so and so amount of barrels of oil. Then in most cases based on the quoted number, the oil companies take up-to 60% as their operational charge while we then run our budget with the left over.

Many foreign news media houses have characterized this as one of the biggest heist on going in the oil industry. There is no other major oil exporting country that is looted in this way. In-fact countries like Saudi Arabia and co have their oil sector dominated by state owned/indigenous firms. It is only in Nigeria that a state owned oil monopoly kept battling with bankruptcy for years. . What the Niger Delta communities don't know is that the oil companies don't really care about the host communities and their parent countries are in bed with Abuja. All the oil coys need do is to bankroll the campaign of one ruthless ex General who was privy to those agreements that allowed shell and co fund the war and who is ready to use maximum force to maintain peace in the Niger Delta and they are safe. This country has been raped blind. There was a reason why most of these big majors were disposing off their assets during the Jonathan years. If you noticed, all that seem to have stopped with the coming of the brutal one.

you can lie for Africa, which oil company in its right mind will sign for Nigerian government during the civil war? what was Nigerian proven reserve as at 1966 to 1970 not holding brief for the fg but i just hate it when people sit down to conjure lies post it on the internets and goes to sleep fyi the internets last forever, all your lies even when you are dead will still be here and if you ask God. For forgiveness,anytime anyone open your post your lies have being told all over again.

Timelezz:
OK, give me time to study the sources you cited.

I think the UK court declaring it has no jurisdiction is legally correct though.

But let me study your links...

Bro still NO, Shell Nigeria has lost in the U.K. to Bobo community and pay 55 million pounds.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/jan/07/shell-announces-55m-payout-for-nigeria-oil-spills

Shell is not liable for those oil spill at all.

The law is clear, the ogonis spend decades in a dutch court, they end up settling out of court with Shell without admission of guilt.!!!

If the law stipulates that shell should not pay compensations for sabotage, to discourage it, I see no how any community will win such case against Shell in a sensible law court.

Truth234:


Bro still NO, Shell Nigeria has lost in the U.K. to Bobo community and pay 55 million pounds.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/jan/07/shell-announces-55m-payout-for-nigeria-oil-spills

Your sources did prove that Shell Nigeria can be sued abroad and those courts do have jurisdiction.

But I wonder on what grounds the UK courts declares lack of jurisdiction in the matter.

Laid2001:
Shell is not liable for those oil spill at all.

The law is clear, the ogonis spend decades in a dutch court, they end up settling out of court with Shell without admission of guilt.!!!

[b]If the law stipulates that shell should not pay compensations for sabotage, to discourage it, [/b]I see no how any community will win such case against Shell in a sensible law court.

Actually the court in Holland held shell responsible for not preventing the sabotage.

Settling out of court has traditionally been an admission of implicit guilt anyways.

Read Truth234 sources

Timelezz:
Your sources did prove that Shell Nigeria can be sued abroad and those courts do have jurisdiction.

But I wonder on what grounds the UK courts declares lack of jurisdiction in the matter.

That was why I said LAWYERS, multinational companies have the best in the world on their side. With similar case won in the past, a competent law firm will win this case.

felixomor:

Abeg hold it. Do u live there?

He's right you know.

Truth234:


That was why I said LAWYERS, multinational companies have the best in the world on their side. With similar case won in the past, a competent law firm will win this case.

Just wondering why any lawyer wouldn't site those past cases as legal precedents.
Even the one in the UK!