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Icon4s:
Better than being in Enyimba.

Besides, he is still very young and may not necessarily end up playing for Barcelona's A team. Other clubs may come for him as time goes on. That move is just like a stepping stone for him. I see it as a good move.

Icon4s:
Hmmm Espana '82.

I recall when the qualifiers were on in 1981. I watched a little of the 2nd leg semi final clash against Guinea where Henry Nwosu scored the only goal. I also watched little of the 2nd leg of the Algeria clash where a Nigerian player scored an own-goal.

I also remember little of that Brazil vs Italy game in that WC. But I never really had interest in watching football then.

I can't recall anything about the IICC vs Zamalek game. My parents were Enugu Rangers fans. I don't think they followed that game. I only watched what they wanted to watch .

The first WC that I really watched and still have very good memory of was Mexico '86 (also known as Maradona '86). Black and white pictures though . Still black and white in my memory

Icon4s:
That was the era when you are feared according to the number of big players in your squad.
Big teams usually showed-up when expected. The under-dogs most usually get the bashing they deserved.
When a relatively small team is to play a team like Argentina, Brazil, Italy or Germany and the likes, you go into the game with a mindset of not to concede too many goals. You'll still be defending when you are 1-0 down . A 1-0 loss to Brazil or Argentina was like a win for some countries then . You see them saluting their fans who would be hailing them after such match.
The only major upset of Espana '82 was Algeria beating Germany 2-1 in a group game.

Those days the individual brilliance of the players in each team usually carried the team through.

I think Cameroun beating Argentina in that Italia '90 opener was a major turning point for teams in sub-Saharan Africa. Prior to then only teams from North Africa could manage to rub shoulders with teams from other parts of the world.

As for the English Big league soccer, me I know watch those ones o. I dnt think they were shown live on NTA. We only watched NTA Televised matches. Though I was hearing Nigerian names like George Chidozie, John Fashanu, Chris Amstrong, John Salako and the likes. I recall wishing to have players like John Fashanu and John Salako feature for the Green Eagles then. You know talks like "If say somebody like John Fashanu and Salako play for Nigeria Cameroun for no fit beat us for that match". You know such fantasy. That time if we hear Cameroun our mind go cut.

I recall Euro 84 and 88 were not shown live on NTA but the summarized versions were shown every Saturday night 8:30 to 9pm on all NTA stations. I can't remember much of Euro '84 rather than the continuous mentions of Tigana and Platini but I watched Euro 88 wella - Ruud Gullit, Marco Van bastine, Klinsman, Rudi Voller, Garry Lineker were the stand out performers. My favorite player then was Gullit.

Holland, Germany, USSR, Italy and England were the strongest teams in that Euro '88.

Emmm.....TheSuperNerd no vex. Na talk dey lead to talk.

TheSuperNerd:
I have seen enough!!!! Wetin I dey talk before??

People still think Gabby Jesus is the competition or problem??

That man pep guardiola is the main issue... That is Nacho's wall and competition at Man City... Pep doesn't rate Nacho. Simple!!!

If after seeing his virtuoso performances against Southampton, stoke city and even bournemouth (just to mention some) where linked up play beautifully and still covered grounds all in line with the so called pep system, All pep sees is a "goalscorer".... That man is a hypocrite and a myopic manager. Must every good thing be non-african??

Chaiiiii.... God pls Save Nacho from Pep.... Better to be a rashford under mourinho than to be a nacho under Pep.... Yep... I am that pissed... I have seen the handwriting on the wall a long time ago but have tried to look on the bright side...... Now that bright side is quickly fading...

Kog45:
Yes 86 W/C of Diego Maradona,that was d tourney i started to understand d game and opportune to watch d likes of Diego Maradona,Michel Platini,Jean Tigana,Josimah,Carecca,Luiz Fernandez, Taffarel,Burruchaga,Valdano,Socrates,Zico,Aldair,Matheus,Rumminegge,Peter Shilton,Badou Zaki,Lakdarh Belloumi,Rabar Mahja,Timoumi and many more,this world cup really increased my undue love for d game of football.

Yes good old days IICC and Ranger rivalry just like Real Madrid and Barcelona of today,stadium always full anytime d two clubs are playing,d two team form d bedrock of our National team.I knew a lot about IICC and Ranger. coz of my Uncle who was a IICC supporter and a neighbor known as bro Uche who was so passionate about Ranger,as a kid then i love listening to their arguments.

Pls can u also recall d old English Premier league relayed matches TV series known as Big League soccer where w watched d likes of Liverpool,Man U,Arsenal,Nottingham Forest,Aston Villa,Wimbledon,Norwich and players like Remi Moses of Nigeria descent who played for Man U in 80s,Justin Fashanu,John Barnes,Kenny Daglish,Gary Lineker.Also i w never forget 1988 FA cup final involved Liverpool and Wimbledon with our own John Fashanu who had a great match for Wimbledon,which Wimbledon won 1 nil.The match was shown by Feyi Ogundiyele of Old NTA Ibadan.

terzurum5:
Guardiola Omit Iheanacho, Mentions Sane,Sterling & Gabriel Jesus As Future Man City Stars

https://owngoalnigeria.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/image-22.jpg

Manchester City coach Pep Guardiola sensationally omitted Nigerian forward Kelechi Iheanacho from the names he mentioned as the future of the team ahead of their clash against West Ham.


Despite insisting that Iheanacho is part of his long term plans, he failed to mention the 20 year old, when analysing the future prospects he has in his team.


Iheanacho who has missed out on the match day squad of Manchester City in their last two games appears to have lost his spot in the team to new signing Gabriel Jesus.” These three ( Sane, Sterling and Gabriel Jesus) will be the future in the next three or four years, I’m pretty sure of that”, he said when asked about the young potentials he has in his team.

http://owngoalnigeria.com/2017/02/01/guardiola-omit-iheanacho-mentions-sane-sterling-gabriel-jesus-as-future-man-city-stars/

Kog45:
yea my guy,TheSuperNerd feel hammer me now say wetin dey do this young boys.

TheSuperNerd:
I have seen enough!!!! Wetin I dey talk before??

People still think Gabby Jesus is the competition or problem??

That man pep guardiola is the main issue... That is Nacho's wall and competition at Man City... Pep doesn't rate Nacho. Simple!!!

If after seeing his virtuoso performances against Southampton, stoke city and even bournemouth (just to mention some) where linked up play beautifully and still covered grounds all in line with the so called pep system, All pep sees is a "goalscorer".... That man is a hypocrite and a myopic manager. Must every good thing be non-african??

Chaiiiii.... God pls Save Nacho from Pep.... Better to be a rashford under mourinho than to be a nacho under Pep.... Yep... I am that pissed... I have seen the handwriting on the wall a long time ago but have tried to look on the bright side...... Now that bright side is quickly fading...

TheSuperNerd:
Bia Chief Icon4s and oga Sir Kog45.... Wetin na??

Pesin go just dey lost for all these archaic talks.... Haba...

Make una try me again....

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Anyone else who no wan speak "English"?? Own up now!

Icon4s:
Iheanacho IMHO is a victim of "the African player mentality" factor.

Most European coaches dnt believe much in African players. It has nothing to do with racism.

African players, with the exception of a few, have not really measured up to expectations in terms of their growth, development and finished performance. They hardly get to the expected pinnacle of their careers.

These young players are investments to their clubs. If I buy a play for $20M, I expect him to give me a $20M or more performance and then I may finally sell him for $80M. This is what the economists call Return On Investment (ROI).

Brazil can boast of players that have reached several pinnacles in world football. Looking at it from that angle, a player like Gabriel Jesus has a higher (ROI) than Iheanacho. Don't think because there is no sign-on fee on Iheanacho and so there is no Initial investment. His weekly wages is also an investment.

Now, ROI is not just all about the resale price on the player but also the performance of the player going forward. We should also know that every coach has his own philosophy that affects the type of players he likes, the style of play of the players as well as nationality of players.

Not as if I am in support of this philosophy, (there is no way I would support a thing like that being an African) I am just saying it out from the angle I see it. It is based on my close observation over years of close watch. If Iheanacho was English, Brazilian, Spaniard or French Pep would have mostly likely expected more on his future.

So if Pep does not see Iheanacho as a future Mancity star, it does not mean Iheanacho does not have a future at Mancity. What it implies to me is that Pep is not seeing Iheanacho as among the young players that will emerge as Super stars in the City colors.

Personally, as an Arsenal fan, I am an admirer of Barcelona and the way they play. Pep was one of those coaches I admired so much.
But since he has moved to the EPL I have started seeing another side of Pep. He is no longer that great coach I used to admire. There is nothing TheGoodJoe can say to convince me on this one.

Iheanacho is a talented, hard working and determined player which sets him apart from most under U17 products I have seen I decades.
If he is destined for greatness, Pep or any other coach cannot stop him.

Mickael2:
Ibra obviously did not succeed under Pep. Lewandowski is skillful?! Maybe you need to watch his matches first.

I doubt if you have watched Douglas Costa, he has got the pace and nothing more, if you talk about skill-set he is limited, you don't see him pulling off a rainbow flick or a leg-over, Ribery is more skillful than he is. Coman was a bench piece so I do not understand how he fits into your description.

Did they tell you that Pep was asking for Neymar? Because the battle for Neymar was squarely between Madrid and Barcelona, Bayern wasn't even present in the discussions. Do you think that it is a coincidence that Neymar came to Barca immediately he left? Like the GoodJoe said which is perfectly precise, when Guardiola came to the B team, he told them all to stop dribbling except Messi. Oh and Messi's finishing skills were absurd, that's what he found out in training

TheGoodJoe:


I am actually seeing a weird side of him too and I am not ready to sway anyone's thought on Pep Guardiola. It is not just Nacho that hurts me but the way he treated Angelino this season. The left back was clearly open. With repeated horrendous performances by Clichy and Kolarov. Yet he did not give the young man a sniff.

Same goes to Denayer who had a successful spell with Galatasaray along side with Virgil Van Dijk of Southampton. Guardiola turned down a return of this young man to Gala and sent him to Sunderland.

Same with Tosin Adarabioyo. With our defensive problems this season, Tosin honestly deserved a shot. With Fernandinho suspended and Fernando injured. How Aleix did not get a shot despite his brilliant performance against Manchester United stuns me.

Just as we spent so much on Stones while we have Tosin, we will spend a fortune on Grimaldo without giving Angelino a chance.

Just like leaving Real Madrid did not stop Eto'o from becoming a legend, I have no doubt, Nacho will blossom. My heart and prayers are with the young man.

As for Pep, I will support him because he is there to run the club. If I say I am happy, then I am telling a lie.

Icon4s:
I surrender !!!!

Na TheGoodJoe ask me question about Ivory Coast '84 and Maroc '88 na.

You need to cork the gun for him too.

Icon4s:
He does not believe much in young players.

Remember when we discussed about Chidi Nwakali's future with City?
Remember my stand point on that issue? - that Pep would rather shop for an established Midfielder than to bring back Chidi Nwakali to solve your midfield problems.


You have to still support him cos he is your coach.

lakesidepapa:
Honestly, u guys are agbalagba.. I still dey do press up for heaven at that time, my palle never toast my malle at the time sef. I bow for Una

Meanwhile, could u relate with this old picture that i found somewhere today?
Thegoodjoe Kogi45 et al

edi287:
The fact you don't think Lewandowski isn't skillful says it all. I won't even get to that in detail. There's a reason he keeps on getting compared to Van Basten.
Douglas Costa is skillful...I don't know what you're trying to imply. If he's not skillful, then Robinho is also not skillful and Ribery isn't as well.
Pep did want Neymar. http://www.espnfc.us/barcelona/story/1495721/rummenigge-pep-wanted-neymar

TheGoodJoe:


That was after Ghana lost to Cote d'Ivoire in a penalty shootout in Senegal 92. After Abedi Pele got suspended with their martial arts football Ghana used to remove Nigeria in the Semis. Abedi Pele did not play the final and Ghana lost. He cried like a baby with his sons by him.

Those are Jordan and Andre Ayew Pele.

TheSuperNerd:
Nothing special about Lions of Cameroon, says NFF


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The Nigeria Football Federation (NFF) has said
that Nigerians should not be worried by the
smooth run of the Indomitable Lions of Cameroun at the on-going Gabon 2017 AFCON.

The Lions and Super Eagles of Nigeria have scores to settle in August this year when hostilities resume for the Russia 2018 World Cup qualifiers.

The Camerounians, who will face the Black Stars of Ghana in the AFCON semifinal tomorrow, will be in Uyo to face the Super Eagles in August with the reverse fixture four days later at the hill top Stadium in Limbe, Cameroun.

Nigeria currently leads the World Cup qualifying group with six points against Cameroon’s two.

Speaking with The Guardian yesterday, chairman Technical Committee of NFF, Chris Green said the Lions may be having it all smooth in the AFCON, but they will fall in the two-legged World Cup qualifier against the Eagles.


“This Camerounian team is not doing anything
special in Gabon. I agree that the Super Eagles
and Lions of Cameroun are perennial rivals, but
we want to use this journey to Russia 2018 World Cup to prove a point that we are now ahead of them. The atmosphere in Gabon and the teams they have played so far will be different from the World Cup qualifiers.

“We have our plans, and our decision to allow the Super Eagles technical adviser, Gernot Rohr, to travel to Gabon to watch the matches will be an added advantage to us. He now has first hand information about the Lions.

“I am not saying that Cameroun is a push over,
but I am assuring Nigerians that they won’t
prevent the Eagles from flying to Russia. What
the result of Cameroun’s smooth run in Gabon
means to us is for the NFF to go the extra mile in preparing the Super Eagles for the challenges
ahead. But as I said, there is nothing special
about this Camerounian team,” Green stated.


Source: http://m.guardian.ng/sport/nothing-special-about-lions-of-cameroon-says-nff/

Icon4s:
1. La Liga is in Europe while the NPFL is in Africa
2. He would be a Barcelona player rather than being an Enyimba player
3. In future he would be regarded as ex-Barcelona player
4. Enyimba players are paid in naira while Barcelona players are paid in Euros
4. Buhari's Recession would not negatively affect the value of his earnings. In fact he will get richer as the naira continues to lose value.

So with these succinct points of mine I have been able to convince and not to confuse you that being in Barcelona Team B is better than being in Enyimba Team A*

TheGoodJoe:
I hope City wins but my heart break is not small. Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

I can not shout.

TheGoodJoe:
I hope City wins but my heart break is not small. Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

I can not shout.

TheGoodJoe:
Roberto Mancini and his Son are around to watch the game.

Miss you sir. Wish you were here.

Hanibal:
There goes another team news and no Nacho... The thunder wey go fire this guardiola guy is on its way.
I pray city loose and that Jesus abi wetin him name be miss five one vs one with the goal keeper.

terzurum5:
Guardiola Omit Iheanacho, Mentions Sane,Sterling & Gabriel Jesus As Future Man City Stars

https://owngoalnigeria.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/image-22.jpg

Manchester City coach Pep Guardiola sensationally omitted Nigerian forward Kelechi Iheanacho from the names he mentioned as the future of the team ahead of their clash against West Ham.


Despite insisting that Iheanacho is part of his long term plans, he failed to mention the 20 year old, when analysing the future prospects he has in his team.


Iheanacho who has missed out on the match day squad of Manchester City in their last two games appears to have lost his spot in the team to new signing Gabriel Jesus.” These three ( Sane, Sterling and Gabriel Jesus) will be the future in the next three or four years, I’m pretty sure of that”, he said when asked about the young potentials he has in his team.

http://owngoalnigeria.com/2017/02/01/guardiola-omit-iheanacho-mentions-sane-sterling-gabriel-jesus-as-future-man-city-stars/