obinna58:


Look at nonsense coming out from ur mouth

God created the universe and disappear to heaven with no evidence

ignorant mofo! that's ur strawman, I'm a deist n don't believe in heaven, there is to reason for any intelligent human being to embrace Atheism, there is in fact no evidence supporting atheism, they all seem to commit the Ad futuris fallacy, as long as u comprehend that the universe must has a supernatural intelligent cause based on several deductive logical evidences then u will either be a First Class idiot or simply incredulous and ignorant to believe or embrace atheism as true, Atheism 0+0 == 1

frustratedguy:

if that is what you are thinking then you are wrong. yes i have left christianity forever, no going back. also no need for atheism or deism. don't want things that will complicate my life. i now know that god can't work miracles and he's not real. that's all that matters. i will just live my life without bringing more confusion into it

saying God isn't real you are already embracing the illogical Atheism position,Does God exist? yes God exists but some things claimed to be God's promises according to various revealed religions happen to be false, again, research more about deism or add me on whatsapp 07034362071 to join Nigerian union of deists

LordCenturion:
Am very happy that African have started waking up from white people religion, even, white people has abandoned this craziness while we black people still put this fake religions on our heads,religion that sees old woman and infants as witches,where their pastors collect millions from people to enriched themselves, they don't want to know if such person stole that money from government or fraudulent money or ritual money or robbery ... The religion that doesn't let Africa think how to makes just "touch light phones" not to talk of producing a single laptops, it let us believe that everything is miracle,our needs will come from heaven,, they said white people use evil power to manufacture those things, yet they are benefitting from those things by acquiring latest car, latest private jets...Nigeria as one of the most religious country in the world, yet the country is second to hell...

Smh for Africa

so because your brother steals does that make every member of your family thieves. Even Christ warned us about false prophets, if you fall into their hands, how is that God's fault. Also separate religion from God. man made religion not God. Your perception of religion has nothing to do about the reality of God. God is love, if you receive anything apart from this in your church, then you have been eating the wrong food. God has called us to self governance not frustration. it is for our freedom that Christ came.

Blogthug:


saying God isn't real you are already embracing the illogical Atheism position,Does God exist? yes God exists but some things claimed to be God's promises according to various revealed religions happen to be false, again, research more about deism or add me on whatsapp 07034362071 to join Nigerian union of deists

You called atheism illogical; what is your evidence for God?

when a man thinks he knows it all.

what is the problem with people, just because of food not even money "food" people would deny them self's life and prefer death.
you have not seen anything, can u ask you self why all over the world Christians suffer persecution more, over there in the middle east Christian are been be headed.
this is to show you the battle behind been a christian. Let d truth be told you were never born again.

Blogthug:


ignorant mofo! that's ur strawman, I'm a deist n don't believe in heaven, there is to reason for any intelligent human being to embrace Atheism, there is in fact no evidence supporting atheism, they all seem to commit the Ad futuris fallacy, as long as u comprehend that the universe must has a supernatural intelligent cause based on several deductive logical evidences then u will either be a First Class idiot or simply incredulous and ignorant to believe or embrace atheism as true, Atheism 0+0 == 1

Don't worry I give u time u gonna turn atheist

I'm once a deist like u

Blogthug:


saying God isn't real you are already embracing the illogical Atheism position,Does God exist? yes God exists but some things claimed to be God's promises according to various revealed religions happen to be false, again, research more about deism or add me on whatsapp 07034362071 to join Nigerian union of deists

bro i don't have the strength to argue. my senses has gone numb. my vision is dull and my heart heavy with sorrow. my sanity is what i have left, and i risk losing that soon

This will only multiply ur sorrow...

Who on this earth has God not failed?

Many people have turned atheist because they can't feel God's presence in their lives like the preachers & religious books paint God. It's better you get yourself together OP & accept the fact that receiving any help from the skies is rocket science.

CoolUsername:


You called atheism illogical; what is your evidence for God?

Evidences for God

1. kallam

Everything that begins to exist has a cause, the universe began to exist therefore it has a cause

scientific evidence shows that the universe (time space and matter) began as a singularity 4.5 billion years ago before expansion , hence the cause is external and we deist call that supernatural cause God

2. intelligent design

All codes of known origin are a product of intelligence,
the DNA is code
therefore a product of intelligence

all valid deductive logical Evidences

3. Fine tuning

4. Ontology of morality observed at different religions at different locations shows morality is Objective and if objective, then it will be transcendent

4. ontological argument ( ur homework, research on it)

u can try to refute the logical arguments premise 1 and 2, if u cant, u should concede, Hint : citing kraus won't help u

u can attempt to refute them though

obinna58:

Don't worry I give u time u gonna turn atheist

I'm once a deist like u

lol, u must be joking, I bet someone like u fell for the " Nothing created God " argument and left deism for atheism, it's a pity, I have never met an atheist with any logical argument, they all attack Christianity and Yahweh, demanding evidence left right and center , u need to question everything, even your atheism!

frustratedguy:
your god is dead

Now they're talking on my behalf. Issorait

You are 'doing' yourself na.


Jehovah remains Jehovah, believe it or not won't change anything about Him.

Blogthug:


Evidences for God

1. kallam

Everything that begins to exist has a cause, the universe began to exist therefore it has a cause

scientific evidence shows that the universe (time space and matter) began as a singularity 4.5 billion years ago before expansion , hence the cause is external and we deist call that supernatural cause God

I've answered this time and time again, the fact that the Universe had a beginning doesn't prove God. The Big Bang only denotes expansion of the singularity into the Universe that we know of. If the cause of the singularity is truly external then there's no way that you can reliably tell me that it's anything resembling any definition of God that we have.

Blogthug:

2. intelligent design

All codes of known origin are a product of intelligence,
the DNA is code
therefore a product of intelligence

all valid deductive logical Evidences

DNA is not a code, it is a chemical that undergoes purely chemical processes. We only compare it to a code for easier understanding.

Blogthug:


3. Fine tuning

Really? Is that even a deistic argument? The universe seems more fine tuned for empty space than anything else.

Blogthug:


4. Ontology of morality observed at different religions at different locations shows morality is Objective and if objective, then it will be transcendent

4. ontological argument ( ur homework, research on it)

u can try to refute the logical arguments premise 1 and 2, if u cant, u should concede, Hint : citing kraus won't help u

u can attempt to refute them though

The ontological argument is inherently flawed. It first assumes there is a God then concludes the is a God. Lets take it this way, think of a supreme being than nothing can be greater than, the supreme being would be greater if it exists so it must exist. Is that even logical? How does the conception of such a being affect reality?


But at the end of the day, the biggest proof against God is the lack of evidence that isn't unverifiable. You guys have managed to push God from mountains, to the clouds and now outside observable time and space. Sounds awfully convenient, doesn't it?

Blogthug:


Evidences for God

1. kallam

Everything that begins to exist has a cause, the universe began to exist therefore it has a cause

scientific evidence shows that the universe (time space and matter) began as a singularity 4.5 billion years ago before expansion , hence the cause is external and we deist call that supernatural cause God

2. intelligent design

All codes of known origin are a product of intelligence,
the DNA is code
therefore a product of intelligence

all valid deductive logical Evidences

3. Fine tuning

4. Ontology of morality observed at different religions at different locations shows morality is Objective and if objective, then it will be transcendent

try watching the debate between Sean Carroll and William Lane Craig


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0qKZqPy9T8

Sean Carroll destroyed Kalam

infact, universe began to "exist" is pure guesswork

just watch the debate and see

CoolUsername:


I've answered this time and time again, the fact that the Universe had a beginning doesn't prove God. The Big Bang only denotes expansion of the singularity into the Universe that we know of. If the cause of the singularity is truly external then there's no way that you can reliably tell me that it's anything resembling any definition of God that we have.


DNA is not a code, it is a chemical that undergoes purely chemical processes. We only compare it to a code for easier understanding.


Really? Is that even a deistic argument? The universe seems more fine tuned for empty space than anything else.



The ontological argument is inherently flawed. It first assumes there is a God then concludes the is a God. Lets take it this way, think of a supreme being than nothing can be greater than, the supreme being would be greater if it exists so it must exist. Is that even logical? How does the conception of such a being affect reality?


But at the end of the day, the biggest proof against God is the lack of evidence that isn't unverifiable. You guys have managed to push God from mountains, to the clouds and now outside observable time and space. Sounds awfully convenient, doesn't it?

u are indeed ignorant, the DNA is a code and called a code by chemical biologist, the DNA has its own sophisticated language, the DNA like all codes is an information process and requires intelligence , pls don't make ignorant claims

Similarities between Genetic and computer codes https:///jdusx7kMJE

peer Reviewed https:///IQqeEhB57e

now provide your own peer reviewed paper claiming DNA isn't a code, get to it atheist!

hopefulLandlord:

try watching the debate between Sean Carroll and William Lane Craig

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0qKZqPy9T8
Sean Carroll destroyed Kalam
infact, universe began to "exist" is pure guesswork
just watch the debate and see

so Vilenkins and Hawkings made guess work? lol

Blogthug:


u are indeed ignorant, the DNA is a code and called a code by chemical biologist, the DNA has its own sophisticated language, the DNA like all codes is an information process and requires intelligence , pls don't make ignorant claims

Similarities between Genetic and computer codes https:///jdusx7kMJE

peer Reviewed https:///IQqeEhB57e

now provide your own peer reviewed paper claiming DNA isn't a code, get to it atheist!

For goodness sake, I said it is compared to a code for easier understanding because it obviously has similarities. At the root of it, though, it functions through purely chemical processes. Treating it as a code is just our way of understanding it. DNA is merely a base ordered sequence.

Also, your links aren't working.

hopefulLandlord:


try watching the debate between Sean Carroll and William Lane Craig


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0qKZqPy9T8

Sean Carroll destroyed Kalam

infact, universe began to "exist" is pure guesswork

just watch the debate and see

caroll has been debunked www.wall.org/~aron/blog/did-the-universe-begin-iv-quantum-eternity-theorem/