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felixomor:
I understand your point man.
I only wanted to expose someone who was pretending to be somebody who reads the bible.

My apologies FELIXOMOR, I was trying to help by inserting the underlying cause of the mental block. INSANITY.

foladara777:
Leave the guy... Always defending the bible but does not know the creation story

Which version of the creation theory
do you want ? The Atheist version is a bit doggy because of obvious reasons as outlined by Dr.Zimmerman findings below;

Dr. Zimmermann’s studies also divide common mental illnesses into categories wherein The Misfit Syndrome is common or uncommon. He defines them here:
Much more serious ‘mental illness,’ such as schizophrenia and serious forms of socio-pathology are very often seen in the overt atheist with percentages approaching 100%.

In other words, people who proclaim to be believers are more prone to the more mundane Generalized Anxiety Disorders or various phobias, but overt non-believers suffer from much more profound mental issues and socio-pathologies.

“The atheist can only efficiently associate with other atheists and when confronted with the companionship of ordinary people, they recoil in anger and hostility.

Now the puzzle is finally coming together. When we go a bit further and examine famous entertainers and only one mass murderer that are atheists, the findings look grim;

Atheist Josef Stalin : for thirty years, until his death in 1953, Josef Stalin was the mass-murdering atheist dictator of Soviet Russia.

He was also a fool.
Muggeridge had collaborated with Svetlana Stalin, Josef Stalin’s daughter, on a BBC documentary about her God-hating father. She recounted his last act of defiant rebellion against the Creator: “As Stalin lay dying, going insane, plagued with terrifying hallucinations, he suddenly sat halfway up in bed, clenched his fist toward the heavens once more, fell back upon his pillow, and was dead.”

“His one last gesture,” observed Zacharias, “was a clenched fist toward God, his heart as cold and hard as steel.”
In my experience it is something common among atheists: an inexplicable, incongruent and visceral hatred for the very God they imagine does not exist.

Mel Gibson an atheist, is another famous person whose name was dragged through the mud because of mental illness – the celebrated actor and director struggles with bipolar I disorder, previously known as manic-depressive disorder. The condition is characterized by episodes of extreme mania and even more extreme depression. In addition to the disorder, Gibson also had severe problems with alcohol and was arrested on DIU charges in 2006 (he also attacked the sheriff and made scandalous anti-Semitic comments).

Catherine Zeta Jones An atheist, Though she kept her mental illness as a secret for many years, Catherine Zeta-Jones opened up about mental illness a few years back and revealed that she suffered from bipolar II disorder, an illness which had taken control of her entire life and affected her career.

Drew Carey, a quite atheist, has never been ashamed to admit that he suffered from mental problems, depression and even tried to take his own life on more than one occasion.

Britney Spears atheism almost ended badly , Pop princess Britney Spears was America’s sweetheart until her life and career started falling apart a few years back after mental illness: she shaved her beautiful golden hair, became violent, and struggled with several addictions. On top of it all, the teen idol suffered a public mental breakdown and eventually lost custody over her two kids.

Brooke Shields atheism affected her life, Instead of enjoying motherhood, model, and actress Brooke Shields an active atheist, suffered from a severe case of postpartum depression and mental illness. She came clean about her condition in an effort to help other moms to deal with the horrors of postnatal depression.

Emma Thompson a proud atheist, One of the greatest actresses of our time, Emma Thompson also dealt with mental deseases, extreme depression and was unable to get out of bed at times. Talking about her illness, Thompson revealed that she had done everything possible to ignore the voices in her head, a task that proved to be too overwhelming for the actress.

Carrie Fisher is an agnostic/atheist celebrity who has mental problems, bipolar I disorder. Unaware of her illness, After experiencing a psychotic breakdown, 15 years after her first diagnosis was made, Fisher finally realized things had gone too far.

Elton John, an atheist said he would ban religion. Everyone knows that Sir Elton John had mental problems, battled drug abuse, bulimia.
another eating disorder of chewing and spitting. but not many people are aware that the legendary musician also suffered from bulimia.

Margot Kidder an atheist, Some of you may remember Margot Kidder’s public breakdown when she disappeared for a few days and actually became a street person. She was found in a horrible state and placed into psychiatric care. Speaking of one of her many episodes, she said: I was like one of those ladies you see talking to the space aliens on the street corner in New York.

Kurt Cobain a Satanist an atheist, was an amazingly talented, mentally disturbed singer who put an end to his own life at the young age of 27. However, his world was definitely a dark one, and Cobain was simply unable to cope with mental illness, drug addiction, and fame. The grunge legend was diagnosed with attention deficit disorder, bipolar disorder, and major depression – conditions that all led to his untimely death

Jean Claude Van Damme an atheist, Belgian-born actor and martial artist Jean-Claude Van Damme suffers from bipolar disorder, a mental illness that is characterized by a much faster transition from highs to lows. When he was a teenager, Van Damme struggled with depression

Actress Drew Barrymore use to wear the Hitler swastika, also was mentally disturbed bipolar disorder and suffers from panic attacks. On top of it all, she was also addicted to alcohol and drugs.Drew has self-proclaimed herself as ‘crazy’ and doesn’t care what other people think. As a matter of fact, it seems that she is proud of being ‘crazy’ and often describes her entire family with the same way.

Demi Lovato also an atheist, suffering mental problems, When you’re dealing with bulimia, bipolar disorder, and addiction at the same time, life must seem hopeless. And this is exactly how Demi Lovato felt in 2010, the year when her problems became too serious and she had to check into a rehabilitation center for assistance.

Jim Carrey an atheist, It’s not the first time that we hear about comedic actors who are, in fact, the saddest actors with mental disorders. Ace Ventura, Mask, and Dumb And Dumber

felixomor:
Where exactly in the bible was light created before sun?

We will see the light when the hidden truths of atheism/agnosticism free us all.

My question to you felixomor is, why all this insanity ? There must be a better way ! I know you can help many lost souls.

Atheist Josef Stalin : for thirty years, until his death in 1953, Josef Stalin was the mass-murdering atheist dictator of Soviet Russia.

He was also a fool.
Muggeridge had collaborated with Svetlana Stalin, Josef Stalin’s daughter, on a BBC documentary about her God-hating father. She recounted his last act of defiant rebellion against the Creator: “As Stalin lay dying, going insane, plagued with terrifying hallucinations, he suddenly sat halfway up in bed, clenched his fist toward the heavens once more, fell back upon his pillow, and was dead.”

“His one last gesture,” observed Zacharias, “was a clenched fist toward God, his heart as cold and hard as steel.”
In my experience it is something common among atheists: an inexplicable, incongruent and visceral hatred for the very God they imagine does not exist.

Mel Gibson an atheist, is another famous person whose name was dragged through the mud because of mental illness – the celebrated actor and director struggles with bipolar I disorder, previously known as manic-depressive disorder. The condition is characterized by episodes of extreme mania and even more extreme depression. In addition to the disorder, Gibson also had severe problems with alcohol and was arrested on DIU charges in 2006 (he also attacked the sheriff and made scandalous anti-Semitic comments).

Catherine Zeta Jones An atheist, Though she kept her mental illness as a secret for many years, Catherine Zeta-Jones opened up about mental illness a few years back and revealed that she suffered from bipolar II disorder, an illness which had taken control of her entire life and affected her career.

Drew Carey, a quite atheist, has never been ashamed to admit that he suffered from mental problems, depression and even tried to take his own life on more than one occasion.

Britney Spears atheism almost ended badly , Pop princess Britney Spears was America’s sweetheart until her life and career started falling apart a few years back after mental illness: she shaved her beautiful golden hair, became violent, and struggled with several addictions. On top of it all, the teen idol suffered a public mental breakdown and eventually lost custody over her two kids.

Brooke Shields atheism affected her life, Instead of enjoying motherhood, model, and actress Brooke Shields an active atheist, suffered from a severe case of postpartum depression and mental illness. She came clean about her condition in an effort to help other moms to deal with the horrors of postnatal depression.

Emma Thompson a proud atheist, One of the greatest actresses of our time, Emma Thompson also dealt with mental deseases, extreme depression and was unable to get out of bed at times. Talking about her illness, Thompson revealed that she had done everything possible to ignore the voices in her head, a task that proved to be too overwhelming for the actress.

Carrie Fisher is an agnostic/atheist celebrity who has mental problems, bipolar I disorder. Unaware of her illness, After experiencing a psychotic breakdown, 15 years after her first diagnosis was made, Fisher finally realized things had gone too far.

Elton John, an atheist said he would ban religion. Everyone knows that Sir Elton John had mental problems, battled drug abuse, bulimia.
another eating disorder of chewing and spitting. but not many people are aware that the legendary musician also suffered from bulimia.

Margot Kidder an atheist, Some of you may remember Margot Kidder’s public breakdown when she disappeared for a few days and actually became a street person. She was found in a horrible state and placed into psychiatric care. Speaking of one of her many episodes, she said: I was like one of those ladies you see talking to the space aliens on the street corner in New York.

Kurt Cobain a Satanist an atheist, was an amazingly talented, mentally disturbed singer who put an end to his own life at the young age of 27. However, his world was definitely a dark one, and Cobain was simply unable to cope with mental illness, drug addiction, and fame. The grunge legend was diagnosed with attention deficit disorder, bipolar disorder, and major depression – conditions that all led to his untimely death

Jean Claude Van Damme an atheist, Belgian-born actor and martial artist Jean-Claude Van Damme suffers from bipolar disorder, a mental illness that is characterized by a much faster transition from highs to lows. When he was a teenager, Van Damme struggled with depression

Actress Drew Barrymore use to wear the Hitler swastika, also was mentally disturbed bipolar disorder and suffers from panic attacks. On top of it all, she was also addicted to alcohol and drugs.Drew has self-proclaimed herself as ‘crazy’ and doesn’t care what other people think. As a matter of fact, it seems that she is proud of being ‘crazy’ and often describes her entire family with the same way.

Demi Lovato also an atheist, suffering mental problems, When you’re dealing with bulimia, bipolar disorder, and addiction at the same time, life must seem hopeless. And this is exactly how Demi Lovato felt in 2010, the year when her problems became too serious and she had to check into a rehabilitation center for assistance.

Jim Carrey an atheist, It’s not the first time that we hear about comedic actors who are, in fact, the saddest actors with mental disorders. Ace Ventura, Mask, and Dumb And Dumber

foladara777:
Oh my... Founders of atheism?? I mean the whole article is utter crap but founders of atheism...
U know there is evidence, though not conclusive of evolution... But the creation story is just funny, like d fact that light was created before sun but the sun is the major source of light so where did the light come from

It could be more practical to focus on more pressing issues than Evolution and even the Big Bang.

Could you rather ask this question, Atheism is the major source of insanity, so where did the insanity come from o.

The common thread [/b]with almost all overt atheists is serious mental illness or an inclination to develop a profound mental illness by age thirty-five.

“We have found that to be true in about 97% of the cases. You never have any medical study where 97% of your results are positive.
It’s almost impossible to make a mistake with numbers like that. Something is going on here and the common thread with almost all overt atheists is serious mental illness or an inclination to develop a profound mental illness by age thirty-five.

[b]“It’s hard to accept something like this — something like the results of our study — in an enlightened society, but there is no getting around the scientific proof. Every variable and every model that has been used comes to the same conclusion.

People who openly do not believe in a creator or a greater spirit and opt to debate it as part of their definition of self, are almost always suffering from a serious mental illness, and if they are not currently sick, the odds are nearly 100% that they eventually will become mentally ill. “
View the full article here:
http://thedamienzone.com/2012/08/17/atheism-as-a-mental-disorder-or-illness-new-studies-say-yes/

felixomor:
The world was formless and dark, at first

Mumu, cant u simply ask what made it formless and dark? How did it come to that stage?

Mscheww, I shake my head for you.

Could the answer be that atheism made it formless and dark with formless genetically modified counter-energy?

The dark formless genetically modified energy that is your guiding belief system in atheism literally means nothing more than not theism. There’s nothing positive to focus on, nothing higher than yourself to which you can submit selfish urges.

The process of trashing out your own views is a process of constant rejection: Many say "I don’t believe this religion, I don’t believe in that form of spirituality, I don’t believe in that superstition," and so on.

We know from personal experience, that mentality of constant dismissal of other ideas can fester to the point that the sin of pride becomes your driving force in life. I don’t think I’m the only one who’s noticed that there is a markedly nasty genetically modified tone among many “new atheists” such as
Richard Dawkins,
PZ Myers,
Sigmund Freud – During his insanity, He believed women wanted sex with their fathers and womens stories of rape and molestation were fantasies. Instead of victims these women were the villains.( shocking)
Sam Harris,
Adolf Hitler
Thomas Henry Huxley
Charles Darwin
Fredrick Nietzsche His writings have increased - not reduced - human despair, suffering and dissatisfaction. Millions have perished in agony in ugly and inhuman concentration camps.

Mockinbird:
Some morafuckin lazylot atheists won't like this news.

Are atheist too lazy or are they racist ? They never had it so easy, today they can examine mind-blowing evidence daily proving like never before in modern history that God is personally involved in our lives. Is racism one of the reasons that some people fail to use the most powerful tool available to examine the proof that God exist ? The SPIRITUAL POWER of God is self-evident in the holy Scoan Church Lagos Nigeria to a degree never seen over the last hundred years.

I was watching Emmanuel TV earlier and will go back to watch more later.
The spiritual praise music and songs are so pure that one can only sit back and feel the presence of the Holy Spirit that is moving with awesome POWER through all the worship singers.

I can help but observe that the worship singers have a profound grace and dignity that is rarely seen.
There joy can only be because they continually witnesses the science defying miracles and amazing deliverances in their Holy Scoan Church. The Holy Prophet TB Joshua is truly a remarkable mentor and pastor.

After viewing The Scoan Live Christmas Carol Night 2016 on Emmanuel TV today I was even more convinced that I saw the deeper meaning of Jesus's words " I come to give you life, and life abundantly."

An unpretentious deep joy simply flows freely from the congregation that also continually witness and receive practical demonstrations of of Jesus's promise to the world. He says " Come to me, I will make your burdens light."

In the Holy Scoan Church you also witness why Jesus commanded the disciples/pastors to take the gospel to all the world.

The gospel is not the motivational show that FAKE pastors have defrauded us with. The Gospel is all that Jesus did.

foladara777:
Oh my... Founders of atheism?? I mean the whole article is utter crap but founders of atheism...
U know there is evidence, though not conclusive of evolution... But the creation story is just funny, like d fact that light was created before sun but the sun is the major source of light so where did the light come from

You claim that to your materialistic mindset the creation story is funny. You also weakly claim that there is evidence for "Evolution" but then you say in the same breath that the evidence is not conclusive. You will be laughed out of court !

But tell us how funny you find these conclusive facts ;

1) It is said that the holy Prophet TB Joshua is anointed beyond modern understanding. word says: greater miracles than those of Jesus – inspiring different opinions about him, some call Him the younger brother of Jesus, others say he’s the Elijah of our Generation.

Still others say the holy Prophet TB Joshua is the continuation of Jesus Christ – But the common thread that runs through all these opinions is the reference to Him as a certain unique being of celestial nature.

2) Furthermore, the Holy Prophet TB Joshua stands as an embodiment of three Great biblical mysteries;

• He goes on before the LORD in the spirit of and power of Jesus, just as John went on before the LORD in the spirit and power of Elijah –

• He wears the mantle of Jesus on the earth, just as Elisha wore Elijah’s mantle, (this inadvertently makes his coming the fulfilment of the awaited messiah’s return, if you’re willing to accept it).

• And of the third mystery you can also be sure – that just as the Joshua of old (on wearing Moses mantle) was the one who led the Israelites to the promised land; the Joshua of today (on wearing Jesus mantle), is the one to lead believers to the promised Kingdom above. He who has ears let him hear.

Here Jesus explains to pastors world-wide and forever, why all the miracles, prophecy, Signs and Wonders are an extremely important part of His Mission and the missions of future pastors. Firstly, Jesus says clearly in these biblical refs that the WORKS that He does bear witness that the Father has sent him.

Joh 5:35 John was a burning and a shining light: and you were willing for a season to rejoice in his light.

Joh 5:36 But I have greater witness than that of John: for the miracles/ WORKS which the Father has given me to finish, the same miracles/ WORKS that I do, bear witness for me, that the Father hath sent me.

Joh 5:23 That all men should honor the Son, even as they honor the Father. He that does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who has sent him.

Today, we are blessed to have the evidence of Jesus’ WORKS Biblically and scientifically verified in the Holy Scoan Church Nigeria and on Emmanuel TV and youtube.com.

Only the WORKS bear witness of a real pastor, not their elaborate speeches, conferences and motivational speeches. Joh 14:12 Truly, Truly, I say to you, He that believes me, the miracles/ WORKS that I do will you also do; and greater (more) miracles/WORKS than these shall you do; because I must soon go unto my Father.

felixomor:
Where exactly in the bible was light created before sun?

While mentally ill atheists argue about the sun and light and the Big Bang that add no positive social value, Werleman insists, as Hedges did before him, that the New Atheists are “secular fundamentalists.” Unfortunately, there are a lot of atheists who go into the field of psychology and psychiatry. They display a cultish commitment to science, a childishly simplistic view of religion, a severely bigoted stance toward Islam.

.” C J Werleman a journalist and former atheist insists, as do Chris Hedges did before him, that the New Atheists are “secular fundamentalists.”

After learning more about atheists however, he started to see some of their views, including their social Darwinist tendencies and “intolerance” of cultural diversity as “quite dangerous.”

A stunning remark Sam Harris made to an interviewer in 2009: “If I could wave a magic wand and get rid of either rape or religion, I would not hesitate to get rid of religion.”

Concerning some of Dawkins’ past comments related to his view that if parents’ encourage religious beliefs in their children, it constitutes child abuse

Dawkins’ signing, in 2006, of a petition to the British Prime Minister that called for making it “illegal to indoctrinate or define children by religion before the age of 16. It is unfortunately, there are a lot of atheists who go into the field of psychology and psychiatry.

LeDrew briefly discuss the appalling philosophy-bashing undertaken by atheist scientists Lawrence Krauss and Neil DeGrasse Tyson.

These scientists argument goes thus: (Talking about blacks) “Those foreign jungles and deserts are seething with savages, heathens, cannibals, and headhunters. You just cannot reason with those heartless primitives; therefore it is our duty, as reasonable, civilized men to subdue them, dress and educate them in our manner, and, of course, kill them when we must — and the fact that the wealth of their native regions is flowing westward and enriching the already bloated coffers of our ruling and economic elite has absolutely nothing to do with it.

But we need to ask a question – what do all these examples amount to? What does Dawkins actually show through them? My answer would be … nothing! He uses these examples to condemn religion as dangerous…The only answer I can come up with is that Dawkins just doesn’t want to admit that religious faith can be reasonable, can be based on evidence and can therefore be adopted because it provides the best overall explanation of the whole of the facts and evidence around us

felixomor:
The world was formless and dark, at first

Mumu, cant u simply ask what made it formless and dark? How did it come to that stage?

Mscheww, I shake my head for you.

While mentally ill atheists argue about the sun and light and the Big Bang that add no positive social value, Werleman insists, as Hedges did before him, that the New Atheists are “secular fundamentalists.” Unfortunately, there are a lot of atheists who go into the field of psychology and psychiatry. They display a cultish commitment to science, a childishly simplistic view of religion, and a severely bigoted stance toward Islam.

This is strange, because many Christian apologists propose this as the strongest evidence for belief in God. For Dawkins to ignore it seems perverse at best, and reminds me of an ostrich at worst. Consider the question: if God does exist, what sort of evidence would you look for to convince you that he does?

The only thing I can think of that is really conclusive, rather than merely suggestive, is a direct intervention of that God in the world, in other words, a revelation. The Christian claim is that this is what happened in Jesus. The account of his life, death and resurrection in the gospels shows the sort of person that he is.

BEWARE ! Here is a sample of dangerous scientific atheism ;

These scientists argument goes thus: (Talking about blacks) “Those foreign jungles and deserts are seething with savages, heathens, cannibals, and headhunters. You just cannot reason with those heartless primitives; therefore it is our duty, as reasonable, civilized men to subdue them, dress and educate them in our manner, and, of course, kill them when we must — and the fact that the wealth of their native regions is flowing westward and enriching the already bloated coffers of our ruling and economic elite has absolutely nothing to do with it.


The wisdom of Jesus's teaching, his compassion, the healings he carried out, his forgiveness of people’s sins, his claims to be God and the difficulty of satisfactorily explaining away the conviction in his disciples that he rose from the dead, can lead to no other conclusion than that he was who he claimed to be.

Each person needs to consider the evidence of Jesus’ life and death and ask whether it makes sense as a record of God’s possible revelation of himself. Could it possibly be God intervening in the world he created? Dawkins does not seem to be prepared to engage with this question,

foladara777:
Really?? Go to YouTube?? You can't explain by yourself how light was not created on the first day and sun not created on the fourth day... Or alternatively, how fourth comes before first

Could it possibly be God intervening in the world he created? Dawkins does not seem to be prepared to engage with this question, and Fortunately, there are a lot of atheists who go into the field of psychology and psychiatry. we can only speculate as to the reason why. Science works on falsifiability. Theories are proposed and are tentatively accepted if there is supporting evidence and no circumstances can be found where the evidence doesn’t fit the theory. The challenge for Dawkins is to engage with the best of the arguments for Christianity – not a strawman of his own creation. Can Dawkins produce strong counter-arguments to undermine the authenticity and reliability of the gospel accounts and in particular of the resurrection of Jesus? If he truly engaged with these questions, that would be a book worth reading…


Yes, there are many gods to choose from.
You are a loving parent and your child is suffering from an incurable illness or is in a mental asylum.
As a highly educated atheist you have dine everything right. But no solution. Now you need God.
But, which god? Unfortunately, there are a lot of atheists who go into the field of psychology and psychiatry.

[b]What scientifically verifiable evidence do we have today [/b]to help us make a choice ? Which God will effectively end the suffering of an Athiest’s child ?
What God will even heal an atheist or his child?

[b] Emmanuel TV is a golden opportunity for atheists world wide to study in private and examine the evidence. They will make progress if they put aside their rasicm. God is revealing Himself mightily through a black man. Examine the evidence not the man's color !

jonbellion:
Apart from that jackbizzle there are two creation accounts in the bible.
You would think that the existence of two contradictory creation stories would be a problem for believers in full biblical literalism and young-Earth creationists - it's practically the running joke of Biblical literalism
Obviously apologists exist to try to rationalize thier nonsense
We cant even see moonlight without sunlight
The moon isn't luminous
Plant life was before the sun
Earth stated four dats without sunlight
There was day and night without
sunlight
Vegetation in a three day old earth without sunlight
Please christians can Yahweh spell photosynthesis
Ooh wow
The Abrahamic God is a m*ron
If the sun should go out all the planets would fly off into outer space

Wow ! there is too much insanity in JONBELLION's comments. But for the sake of young innocent readers here, lets throw in something they can use in their lives.

Here Jesus Christ explains who he is and why He came into the world.

Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the True God, but by me.

Joh 17:18 What I was sent into the world to do, I also sent them into the world to do the same.

Only the WORKS bear witness of a real pastor, not their elaborate speeches, conferences and motivational speeches. Joh 14:12 Truly, Truly, I say to you, He that believes me, the miracles/ WORKS that I do will you also do; and greater (more) miracles/WORKS than these shall you do; because I must soon go unto my Father.

Today, the whole world is blessed to have the evidence of Jesus’ WORKS Biblically and scientifically verified in the Holy Scoan Church Nigeria and on Emmanuel TV.

michlan:
Bros, will you really love open your heart to understand the Light that was before the sun?

Atheists are deeply materialistic
and therefore easily confused by spiritual truths as you hint to them here. Now there is a world wide dramatic shift away from the prison of logic that has captured the atheist mindset for hundreds of years.

Many atheist prefer the prison of logic so that they can freely infect the youth with their doctrines that embrace violence, pornography, the destruction of marriage, dishonor of parents etc etc .

The theist asserts God's existence; the atheist denies God’s existence, while the agnostic professes ignorance about it.

The terrible suffering of atheism, agnosticism, deism has ended. All this flourished for hundreds of years during the growth of fake churches.

The work of true churches was to demonstrate Gods love which is miraculous healing and more for the benefit of mankind. In the absence of this evidence, atheism and other isms have been born.
[b] Emmanuel TV is a golden opportunity for atheists world wide to study in private and examine the evidence. They will make progress if they put aside their rasicm. God is revealing Himself mightily through a black man. Examine the evidence not the man's color !

Thomas Huxley an atheist?! Man, the balloon of your entire argument has just been bursted with the crap you put on here.
SMH.

foladara777:
Leave the guy... Always defending the bible but does not know the creation story

Enlightened readers of Nairaland will do themselves a favor by carefully examining Boudinot's wise insights into the mentally disturbed mind of Thomas Paine an atheist disguised as a deist.

Boudinot - As if addressing himself to the evolutionists, atheists, and anti-Christian skeptics of the 21st century, Boudinot declared concerning Paine:

Had Thomas Paine thought proper to have used reasoning and argument, founded on proof, to enforce his observations, he might have expected a suitable reply; but when he contents himself with advancing the most palpable falsehoods and misrepresentations as facts.

Thomas Paine uses falsehood from which to draw the most important religious conclusions, and these are so enveloped in sophistry, and tainted with ludicrous insinuations, that are calculated to impose on the young and unwary mind in matters of infinite importance, he has no right to expect any thing farther, than a positive denial of the gross misrepresentation of facts he has imposed on the public (p. 97, emp. added).

If these characterizations by Boudinot seem harsh or unloving, one must recognize the gravity and seriousness of Paine’s infidelity and the threat posed to society—a fact Boudinot well understood:

Thomas Paine an atheist disguised as a deist is the writer of the Age of Reason, may think it harsh to be charged with falsehood in every page of his work; but it is bad to become an advocate for the Gospel, not to declare it boldly, and would be doing great injustice to the cause of truth, when the everlasting interests of his fellow man are at stake; and the guilty person, Thomas Paine has no one but himself to blame for this trouble, having presumed to enter on a subject with which he had not taken pains to make himself acquainted; no, not with its alphabet (p. 97, emp. added, italics in orig.).

Second, Boudinot pinpointed Paine’s primary aim, a common tactic of those who promulgate opposition to Christianity, i.e., to advance their cause by subverting the youth:

Boudinot says, "When I first examined the book "The Age of Reason" I considered it as one of those vicious and absurd publications, filled with ignorant declamation and ridiculous representations of simple facts, the reading of which, with attention, would be an undue waste of time.... "

"I confess, that I was very distressed to find, the whole force of Thomas Paines vain genius and art, was aimed at the youth of America...He hoped to inluence a skeptical temper and disposition in their young minds, well knowing that this was the best inlet to infidelity, and the most effectual way of serving its cause, thereby sapping the foundation of our holy religion in their minds (p. xii, emp. added).

Boudinot felt that Thomas Paine’s words “are apparently designed to mislead the young and unwary mind, into the fatal vortex of skepticism and infidelity” (p. 215).

JackBizzle:
We are talking about light before the sun and you are arguing a red herring about how the world was formless?


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Enlightened readers of Nairaland will do themselves a favor by carefully examining Boudinot's wise insights into the mentally disturbed mind of Thomas Paine an atheist disguised as a deist.

Boudinot - As if addressing himself to the evolutionists, atheists, and anti-Christian skeptics of the 21st century, Boudinot declared concerning Paine:

Had Thomas Paine thought proper to have used reasoning and argument, founded on proof, to enforce his observations, he might have expected a suitable reply; but when he contents himself with advancing the most palpable falsehoods and misrepresentations as facts.

Thomas Paine uses falsehood from which to draw the most important religious conclusions, and these are so enveloped in sophistry, and tainted with ludicrous insinuations, that are calculated to impose on the young and unwary mind in matters of infinite importance, he has no right to expect any thing farther, than a positive denial of the gross misrepresentation of facts he has imposed on the public (p. 97, emp. added).

If these characterizations by Boudinot seem harsh or unloving, one must recognize the gravity and seriousness of Paine’s infidelity and the threat posed to society—a fact Boudinot well understood:

Thomas Paine an atheist disguised as a deist is the writer of the Age of Reason, may think it harsh to be charged with falsehood in every page of his work; but it is bad to become an advocate for the Gospel, not to declare it boldly, and would be doing great injustice to the cause of truth, when the everlasting interests of his fellow man are at stake; and the guilty person, Thomas Paine has no one but himself to blame for this trouble, having presumed to enter on a subject with which he had not taken pains to make himself acquainted; no, not with its alphabet (p. 97, emp. added, italics in orig.).

Second, Boudinot pinpointed Paine’s primary aim, a common tactic of those who promulgate opposition to Christianity, i.e., to advance their cause by subverting the youth:

Boudinot says, "When I first examined the book "The Age of Reason" I considered it as one of those vicious and absurd publications, filled with ignorant declamation and ridiculous representations of simple facts, the reading of which, with attention, would be an undue waste of time.... "

"I confess, that I was very distressed to find, the whole force of Thomas Paines vain genius and art, was aimed at the youth of America...He hoped to inluence a skeptical temper and disposition in their young minds, well knowing that this was the best inlet to infidelity, and the most effectual way of serving its cause, thereby sapping the foundation of our holy religion in their minds (p. xii, emp. added).

Boudinot felt that Thomas Paine’s words “are apparently designed to mislead the young and unwary mind, into the fatal vortex of skepticism and infidelity” (p. 215).

foladara777:
Oh my... Founders of atheism?? I mean the whole article is utter crap but founders of atheism...
U know there is evidence, though not conclusive of evolution... But the creation story is just funny, like d fact that light was created before sun but the sun is the major source of light so where did the light come from

The founders of atheism always had a childish way of preferring what I call "Bling Bling" when they want to make a false statement appear true. There followers are just following !

Boudinot felt that Paine’s words “are engineered and designed to mislead the young and unwary mind, into the fatal vortex of skepticism and infidelity” (p. 215).

Boudinot's says futher that "those who fight against the Bible and Christianity would like their victims to believe that they have arrived at some great evidence, proof, or argument that disproves the authenticity of the Bible, the existence of God, and the Christian religion. The fact is that their assertions have all been decisively answered long ago, a point that Boudinot reiterated repeatedly to Paine:

This author, Thomas Paine's whole work, is made up of old objections, answered, and that conclusively, a thousand times over, by the advocates of our holy religion. Some of the attacks at religion Thomas Paine has attempted to clothe with new language, and put into a more ridiculous form; but many of them he has collected almost word for word, from the writings of the deists of the last and present century (pp. xiv-xv, emp. added).

These inefficient fragments of the writings of the last century, repeated by the late king of Prussia, Voltaire, and others, now new vamped up, with the aid of ridicule, under the title of “The Age of Reason,” and this addition, “By the Author of Common Sense,” though so often fully answered by learned men, are again introduced into the world, as new matter, in hopes of deceiving the ignorant and unwary... (p. 26, emp. added).

This author, Thomas Paine throughout his writtings, seems to have taken leave of all pretensions to modesty and decorum, or he certainly would have paid some respect to the learning and wisdom of multitudes of Christian writers and professors, who have so long and so ably defended the Christian system, against the many attacks of more formidable, as well as more modest and decent adversaries, than our author (pp. 189-199, emp. added).

ScienceWatch:
Wow ! there is too much insanity in JONBELLION's comments. But for the sake of young innocent readers here, lets throw in something they can use in their lives.

Here Jesus Christ explains who he is and why He came into the world.

Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the True God, but by me.

Joh 17:18 What I was sent into the world to do, I also sent them into the world to do the same.

Only the WORKS bear witness of a real pastor, not their elaborate speeches, conferences and motivational speeches. Joh 14:12 Truly, Truly, I say to you, He that believes me, the miracles/ WORKS that I do will you also do; and greater (more) miracles/WORKS than these shall you do; because I must soon go unto my Father.

Today, the whole world is blessed to have the evidence of Jesus’ WORKS Biblically and scientifically verified in the Holy Scoan Church Nigeria and on Emmanuel TV.

Finally, Boudinot well notes that those who are sufficiently versed in the Scriptures, and the abundant evidence for the truth of the Christian religion, will remain unaffected by the propaganda of Paine and other skeptics: “To Christians, who are well instructed in the Gospel of the Son of God, such mockery rather add confirmation to their faith” (p. xiii).

As to the serious and devout Christian, who has felt the transforming power of the religion of Jesus Christ, and has experienced the internal and convincing evidence of the truth of the Divine Scriptures, the treatise referred to, will rather have a tendency to increase his faith, and inflame his fervent zeal in his master’s cause, while he beholds this vain attempt, to ridicule and set at nought, the great objects of his hope and joy, by one who plainly discovers a total ignorance of every principle of true Christianity, as revealed in the Scriptures (p. 27, emp. added).

Jesus Himself expected no one to believe Him unless He provided sufficient evidence, which He did (John 10:37). The evidence for the existence of God, the inspiration of the Bible, and the validity of the Christian religion is available to all who desire to have it.

No one can stand before God on the Day of Judgment and legitimately excuse himself on the grounds of unintentional ignorance or lack of access to the evidence.

Only the WORKS bear witness of a real pastor, not their elaborate speeches, conferences and motivational speeches. Joh 14:12 Truly, Truly, I say to you, He that believes me, the miracles/ WORKS that I do will you also do; and greater (more) miracles/WORKS than these shall you do; because I must soon go unto my Father.

The whole world is greatly blessed to have the evidence of Jesus’ miracles/ WORKS Biblically and scientifically verified in the Holy Scoan Church Nigeria and on Emmanuel TV.

foladara777:
Leave the guy... Always defending the bible but does not know the creation story

Wait a minute guys, I do know the creation story.

When I attended a lecture at a prestigious university, I was told that at first there was nothing, then two rocks collided. The awesome result that we see today is because of that accident. There you have it !

foladara777:
Really?? Go to YouTube?? You can't explain by yourself how light was not created on the first day and sun not created on the fourth day... Or alternatively, how fourth comes before first

Let there be light between the 1st and the fourth.

The simple point atheist are unable to understand while stridently arguing about different logarithmic time scales relative to creationistic algorithms of a bi-lateral view underlying proven facts relating to Cartesian Evolution in the winter of creation.

Now if Cartesian Evolution is honored by Logarithmic binary switching without the need of a LOPTY for amplification we are close enough to agree that from here a linear morphises brings the Big Bang into the history books.

The conclusion is very frustrating because from here, atheists dont have the luxury of fighting religions. All arguments disappear because the mathematical equation -mx over 16m2 divided by 0 to benefit 4 at the expense of 1(k2 - t7) proves that the athesits were correct all along.

This may appear as a low blow for all religions, but do not despair ! There is light at the end of this dark tunnel.

foladara777:
Oh my... Founders of atheism?? I mean the whole article is utter crap but founders of atheism...
U know there is evidence, though not conclusive of evolution... But the creation story is just funny, like d fact that light was created before sun but the sun is the major source of light so where did the light come from

While you work very hard to find out which comes first, the light or the sun, I am working very hard to research the consequences of Atheism on societies world-wide.

The inevitable consequences of Atheism are frightening. History easily proves that Atheism is one of the highest orders of Satanism that encourage racism, segregation, poverty, pornography, the destruction of religion, and many more evils in society.

Just look at this proud Atheist, Carl Panzram (1891-1930) a.k.a. Jefferson Rhoades
This American criminal and proud atheist who murdered 21 people, raped over 1,000 people, and committed multiple burglaries, robberies, larcenies, and arsons. He said, "I don't believe in man, God nor Devil.

Carl raved, I hate the whole damned human race, including myself... I preyed upon the weak, the harmless and the unsuspecting. This lesson I was taught by others: Might makes right."

This type of hatred [/b]is mostly simmering silently underneath the so-called thin veneer of fake respectability that the Atheist portray to society. Atheism is a living time-bomb.

[b]Athiest Genrikh Yagoda (1891-1838) a.k.a. Yenokh Gershevich Iyeguda
He was a Soviet secret police official and atheist who is held responsible for the deaths of over 7 million Ukrainians during the "Holodomor" (a man-made famine in Ukraine engineered by the Soviet government). He was also one of the architects of the gulag system.

Atheist Bolesław Bierut (1892-1956)
He was a brutal Atheist leader of Communist Poland and agent of the NKVD (a Soviet law enforcement agency) who executed 22,000 to 54,000 people of the Polish population, targeting Catholic priests especially as they who were considered dangerous to the Communist regime.

Proudly Atheist Mátyás Rákosi (1892-1971) a.k.a. "Stalin's Best Pupil"
Atheist leader of Hungary, under whose leadership, 150,000 people were imprisoned, 2,000 of which were executed. He also purged tens of thousands from the government, 5,000 of which were executed.
This heartless Atheist coined the term "salami tactics," when eliminating his non-Communist rivals, describing the process as "cutting them off like slices of salami."

Atheist Josip Broz Tito (1892-1980) a.k.a. Josip Broz
Atheist Dictator of Yugoslavia, directly responsible for the death of 570,000 to 1,170,000 people.

felixomor:
Where exactly in the bible was light created before sun?

Lets cut to the chase on this ! While the masses are suffering, who want to know lf light came after the sun. Who cares about such trivial points that Atheists dream up to trap people into Satanism ?

I have spoken to many Atheists that say they were not in the beginning aware of the fact that initiation into Atheism is actually the initiation into the highest portal of Satanism. they have decided to break away from the aimless arguments Atheist dabble in, and rather research the brutal consequences that Atheism/Satanism present to societies world-wide. Take for example the tragic acts that Atheism produce ;

Atheist Mao Zedung (1893-1976) a.k.a. Mao Tse-tung
This well dressed Atheist Leader of Communist China who killed 40 million to around 80 million people, through starvation, forced labor, and mass executions, famously making him the most murderous person in the history of the world.

Flamboyant Atheist Lazar Kaganovich (1893-1991)
This smart Soviet politician who was instrumental in the atheist government's "dekulakization" and engineered famines which killed 14.5 million people.

Handsome Atheist Nikolai Yezhov (1895-1940)
He was Head of the NKVD and atheist, where, under his leadership, 681,692 were executed and 140,000 who were arrested and eventually died in the Russian gulags from starvation.

An Atheist with many degrees, Khorloogiin Choibalsan (1895-1952)
He was an Atheist leader of Communist Mongolia who executed around 35,000 people.

JackBizzle:
This is how we know that many christians don't read their bible


Creation sequence.

-the world was formless and dark
-God said let there be light
-on the fourth day, God created the sun, moon and stars

You make a good point, Christians dont read their bibles.

But I have found that Christians know that Atheism is the highest entry point into the portal of Satanism. We can only applaud these wise Christians for their profound insight into terrifying dangers of Atheism/Satanism.

There are thousands of chilling examples, but lets briefly use only a few examples of the heartless cruelty that is birthed from Atheist/Satanic beliefs ;

Best dressed Atheist Martin Bormann (1900-1945)
Nazi German who was the right-hand man of Adolf Hitler and a known atheist, who signed the decree of 9 October 1942 prescribing that "the permanent elimination of the Jews from the territories of Greater Germany can no longer be carried out by emigration but by the use of ruthless force in the special camps of the East."

He thus played a leading role in the Nazi Holocaust, which would murder 6 million Jews. He also enthusiastically supported the Nazi campaign against the Church, saying, "The Christian religion and National Socialist doctrines [a.k.a. Nazism] are not compatible," and banned clergy from the Nazi Party, forbade crucifixes in classrooms, and tried to get a leading Catholic bishop executed for his opposition to the Nazi's non-voluntary euthanasia program.

Highly educated Atheist Gheorghe Gheorghiu-Dej (1901-1965)
Atheist leader of Communist Romania who judicially executed 137 people and then killed some tens of thousands more in connection to country's attempt at agricultural collectivization.

The proud Agnostic Bogdan Kobulov (1904-1953)
One of the main members of Soviet politicians and atheist police members who sentenced 22,000 people to death at the Katyn Massacre.

Flamboyant Atheist Deng Xiaoping (1904-1997)
He was a likable Atheist Leader of Communist China who ordered that a group of protesters who were demanding more democracy be gunned down in Tiananmen Square resulting in 3,000 of them being slaughtered.

Bros Science Watch insanity is not exclusive to atheist alone oo; abi Rev King is sane to you or Shekau??

@op,

If atheism is a mental illness, then what do you call this?

felixomor:
U r the one who is ignorant o.
U thought u found something.

Even kindergartens dont have problem dissecting genesis 1.
Go to youtube and watch them break it down.

U r the only ignoble here

I fully agree with you that Kindergarden kids easily understand Genesis. foladara777 in turn cant explain Atheism's tenets so he comes to pretend he knows a lot about Christianity.







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Niflheim:
@op,

If atheism is a mental illness, then what do you call this?

What a Good question ? You will find your answer hidden below.
Happy hunting.

The three men, who popularized atheism in the 19th Century, had almost the same experiences early in their lives, and there is a common psychological pattern evident in their later rebellion.

Thomas Henry Huxley, Sigmund Freud and Friedrich Nietzsche all had psychological/spiritual struggles in their lives. They all had cruel and domineering fathers, they therefore suffered extreme shyness, depression and obsessive fears.

Therefore, these men made it their work to destroy God, who to them was a symbol of their fathers.

Since the existence of God is a reality, an atheist mind protects itself from the reality through rejection of God’s existence using several psychological defense mechanisms such as rationalization, repression, displacement, suppression and denial.

At last, the reality of the existence of the supreme God and His practical love for humanity is undeniably verified in the Holy Scoan Church Nigeria.



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stonemasonn:
Bros Science Watch insanity is not exclusive to atheist alone oo; abi Rev King is sane to you or Shekau??

Your response is well thought out. Meanwhile STONEMASON, what did you hope to achieve with your shabby epistles blog?






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stonemasonn:
Bros Science Watch insanity is not exclusive to atheist alone oo; abi Rev King is sane to you or Shekau??

Atheist all reason in easily detectable ways which make it easy to spot. I asked my friend if he can spot STONEMASON. He says Stonemason is an Atheist because of pedantic language to convince himself and others.

1) Atheists rely on false reasoning that sounds logical to negate the reality of God.

2) They will bombard you with thousands of reasons as to why God does not exist, and make them sound as logical as possible.

3) Atheists are good at using pedantic language to convince themselves and others.

John Pasquini, in his book on Atheist Personality Disorder: "Addressing a Distorted Mindset", points out that atheists are good at using pedantic language to convince themselves and others, as they fool themselves that they are intellectually superior, while in the real sense, they are mere rationalizers.



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foladara777:
Oh my... Founders of atheism?? I mean the whole article is utter crap but founders of atheism...
U know there is evidence, though not conclusive of evolution... But the creation story is just funny, like d fact that light was created before sun but the sun is the major source of light so where did the light come from

The question of how there could be light on the first day of Creation when the sun was not created until the fourth day is a common one. This is only a problem if you fail to take into account an infinite and omnipotent God. God does not need the sun, moon, and stars to provide light. God is light! First John 1:5 declares, "This is the message we have heard from him and declare to you: God is light; in Him there is no darkness at all." God Himself was the light for the first three days of Creation, just as He will be in the new heavens and new earth, “There will be no more night. They will not need the light of a lamp or the light of the sun, for the Lord God will give them light. And they will reign for ever and ever” ( Revelation 22:5 ). Until He created the sun, moon, and stars, God miraculously provided light during the “day”



Check the Revelation 22:5 very well. There will be no light of lamp or sun or night.
God will be the light.


Please Atheists, read the bible well before you ever engage in arguements.

foladara777:
Oh my... Founders of atheism?? I mean the whole article is utter crap but founders of atheism...
U know there is evidence, though not conclusive of evolution... But the creation story is just funny, like d fact that light was created before sun but the sun is the major source of light so where did the light come from

So which one is more of a joke? that God created the entire Universe or that a random thoughtless lifeless force lead to the existence of the entire Universe.

felixomor:
The world was formless and dark, at first

Mumu, cant u simply ask what made it formless and dark? How did it come to that stage?

Mscheww, I shake my head for you.

Lol......What do you expect from someone who share the same lineage with Apes.In their own words.

foladara777:
Stop trying to digress from the topic, your ignorance of the bible has been found out, you are just a blind defender of your beliefs... Just get a bible and read the first chapter or u don't have access to one??

When will Atheists show us how a fish got tired of swimming developed wings and changed its body shape and just became a bird or show us the Chemical equation or step by step breakdown of the Abiogenesis process that lead to life. or even pair all the billions of creatures in the Earth with their crossponding previous organisms or fossil that they where before they Evolued.some answer questions that Atheists sweep under the carpet.