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Tidamsel:
Tenant & Landlord palava

Towncrier247:
However, i would advise you don't take off his roof or break his door. If he takes you to court, he could claim his millions are missing. He could provide the rent he is owing you and ask you to provide his millions you have 'stolen' when you broke into his apartment. He will just tell the court that he brought home the money the previous night and he had intended to pay off all he was owing you. That will be serious trouble. I have seen it happen before. I beg you in the name of God, don't try it

If he is not claiming money, he could be claiming a very expensive item like jewelry etc

Just take him to court. Even the judge will know that you have tried enough

Claim wetin!


Judges r not stupid. .when u enter court, u go know wetin be "real evidence. . .na2day!

Kolababe:
That's a better way around it! I just like it when there are enough people to share ideas. Ideas are limitless. Kudos!

some people think they are wise abi?...God will catch them..it is annoying when individuals play on someone's intelligence because the person is calm abi...

Serve 3days notice on renovation... the day of renovation get two police and a lawyer as witness. Start from the door... then the roof. You get you house back In few hours.

no1madman:
Claim wetin!


Judges r not stupid. .when u enter court, u go know wetin be "real evidence. . .na2day!

Guy pray you dont see case, I know of a man who bought a house in my area, he gave the tenants quit notice, they refused. He decided to remove the roof and claimed that he wanted to renovate the house he just bought. The tenants sued him for damages the case was in the for months the useless tenants didn't leave.
He had to plead and pay dem out of court.
In Lagos, tenant is king

whizqueen:
The house has been ready for not less than 6 years now with various categories of tenants. Mom is really sad and decided to hand over to a caretaker, the caretaker suggested that all old tenant be sent


Now the issue is 6 months lapsed with 3 month on top of it. Meaning for going to 3 years for some tenants no pay and she hasn't gotten paid for 3 years

The caretaker and lawyer are very incompetent.
Quit notice time has elapsed. There's no need going to court. I repeat, there's no need 'cause she'll be wasting her time and limited resources.

If she really wants to get her property back, she should take a practical step.

Go there and get the roof removed. This will work 100%, writing from experience.

She owes no one an explanation after giving them enough tome to make necessary arrangements to vacate.

Get the roof off and the inconsiderate leeches will quit in 2 days max.

She shouldn't even tell the caretaker, 'cause he may be selling her out without her knowledge.
Let her bargain with a carpenter that'll take it off and re-fix it afterwards. By the time they're done un-roofing two of the flats, the occupants of the other flats will get the message loud and clear.

no1madman:
Claim wetin!


Judges r not stupid. .when u enter court, u go know wetin be "real evidence. . .na2day!

Bros mi y u con quote me na u no talk anytn 4 my post

If the quit notice has expired get them out by force. Just assign some guys to force them out while you stay in doors doing your own thing(you can use police or millitary) . Such wicked tenants need to be treated like thieves.

DBestDoc:
The caretaker and lawyer are very incompetent.
Quit notice time has elapsed. There's no need going to court. I repeat, there's no need 'cause she'll be wasting her time and limited resources.

If she really wants to get her property back, she should take a practical step.

Go there and get the roof removed. This will work 100%, writing from experience.

She owes no one an explanation after giving them enough tome to make necessary arrangements to vacate.

Get the roof off and the inconsiderate leeches will quit in 2 days max.

She shouldn't even tell the caretaker, 'cause he may be selling her out without her knowledge.
Let her bargain with a carpenter that'll take it off and re-fix it afterwards. By the time they're done un-roofing two of the flats, the occupants of the other flats will get the message loud and clear.

Lol chai only in Africa! You know they can actually sue and claim ur putting them in danger because how can you renovate a house while someone is still in it and bla bla

Am surprise some people don't like due process. If you follow some of the advice here, the landlady will end up messing up the whole thing. Get a competent lawyer and sue them. Inability to pay rent is a ground. When it expires yur lawyer should. File the necessary legal suit to recover ur property. Some tenant will ask for extension of time but the judge will over rule that on the ground that they ve spent more than a year already. The best they can get is a week. After that week sherif with eviction order will come and throw their stuff outside. Raining season is the best time to do this so that all their properties will be damaged in lure to the rent they owe you. This method worked for me and also my current landlord used same method to evict one of his stubborn tenants. Thank me later. Must stubborn tenants re yorubas talking from experience.

lepasharon:
Lol chai only in Africa! You know they can actually sue and claim ur putting them in danger because how can you renovate a house while someone is still in it and bla bla

Any tenant who defaults in rent payment puts himself at the mercy of the landlord, not to talk of 3years default. There is no law protecting them. As a matter of fact, they are not tenants but encroachers. The landlord has every right to eject them with immediate effect but if she wants to be humane, she may give them 7 days notice[quote author=lepasharon post=53544840]

maria43:
If you try that to a tenant that knows his right you are finished. You will end up paying for what is not lost

It's like you're one of those tenant? Which foolish right are you talking about when it's not your house and you paid no dime for the rent?

@ OP, get 1-2 policemen and a carpenter to accompany to the said house, then root out the roof and door completely.

Bunch of Useless people!

mayorkyzo:
She should just take a truck of sand and gravel in front of their entrance,call carpenter to remove d roof that u r doing renovation...that's how I evicted some of my tenants that refused to pay me...they packed out on their own...

u'r wicked

That guy does not know what to do jare. Get a smart young lawyer who knows the new trick to get em out within months without quit notice jare. Once rent is more than 18months or when the value of the sums owed substantial, never come via the old method. Peace.

whizqueen:
This is going to be on hell of a long post. Please read and bear with me. I'm writing on behalf of someone who happens to be my bestie and her mom is like my mom too.

So bestie's mom is a civil servant that earns on monthly basis, she took loan severally to build herself a house located in ogun state. With plenty of pains, starvation and hunger she finally completed 4 flats of two bedrooms each after like 10 years. Ever since the building has been ready she has never for once enjoyed steady flow of rentals her tenants, it's either they are unable to pay and get kicked out or the new tenant comes up with a story of how his business went bad.

The house has been ready for not less than 6 years now with various categories of tenants. Mom is really sad and decided to hand over to a caretaker, the caretaker suggested that all old tenant be sent out and fresh new people taken in. The debt of some of the old tenants was up to 2 years oo. For one particular guy who happened to be a colleague of my friends' mom , his own debt is up to 3 years without single pay. He keeps coming up with cock and bull stories. The idea of the caretaker was that  mom holds a meeting with the tenants and tells them that she sold the house to someone and that the old tenants should move out as per they don't kuku have rent in advance. The meeting was held a lawyer was called and quit notice was served to those tenants giving them 6 months.


Now the issue is 6 months lapsed with 3 month on top of it. Meaning for going to 3 years for some tenants no pay and she hasn't gotten paid for 3 years by any of the 4 flats. Salary isn't steady again, debt has risen and bills has skyrocketted. My friends' mom seriously and badly needs money. The supposed caretaker and Lawyer isn't handling the issue like they should and our mommy is fed up. The caretaker keeps saying she should still hold on because if the matter is taken to court it might even take much longer than it has already. She keeps thinking about it daily and begin to get worried that it's not worth the stress building a house. These tenants are bunch of frustrating beings.

 Is there a way to send those people out more quickly? Have you ever been in this situation and how did you handle it? What are the consequences of getting a court involved? Is there a better way of sorting this.

I need your opinions please mom dey worry too much. I tire biko

whizqueen:
This is going to be on hell of a long post. Please read and bear with me. I'm writing on behalf of someone who happens to be my bestie and her mom is like my mom too.

So bestie's mom is a civil servant that earns on monthly basis, she took loan severally to build herself a house located in ogun state. With plenty of pains, starvation and hunger she finally completed 4 flats of two bedrooms each after like 10 years. Ever since the building has been ready she has never for once enjoyed steady flow of rentals her tenants, it's either they are unable to pay and get kicked out or the new tenant comes up with a story of how his business went bad.

The house has been ready for not less than 6 years now with various categories of tenants. Mom is really sad and decided to hand over to a caretaker, the caretaker suggested that all old tenant be sent out and fresh new people taken in. The debt of some of the old tenants was up to 2 years oo. For one particular guy who happened to be a colleague of my friends' mom , his own debt is up to 3 years without single pay. He keeps coming up with cock and bull stories. The idea of the caretaker was that  mom holds a meeting with the tenants and tells them that she sold the house to someone and that the old tenants should move out as per they don't kuku have rent in advance. The meeting was held a lawyer was called and quit notice was served to those tenants giving them 6 months.


Now the issue is 6 months lapsed with 3 month on top of it. Meaning for going to 3 years for some tenants no pay and she hasn't gotten paid for 3 years by any of the 4 flats. Salary isn't steady again, debt has risen and bills has skyrocketted. My friends' mom seriously and badly needs money. The supposed caretaker and Lawyer isn't handling the issue like they should and our mommy is fed up. The caretaker keeps saying she should still hold on because if the matter is taken to court it might even take much longer than it has already. She keeps thinking about it daily and begin to get worried that it's not worth the stress building a house. These tenants are bunch of frustrating beings.

 Is there a way to send those people out more quickly? Have you ever been in this situation and how did you handle it? What are the consequences of getting a court involved? Is there a better way of sorting this.

I need your opinions please mom dey worry too much. I tire biko

You can call 08037016302 or 08028537102 for how to retrieve the money from the tenants and send them packing within six months

Seun:
She should hire a professional debt collector. They have all sorts of tricks such as planting "charms" to scare the debtors into paying up.

So...a whole Seun support juju?! I rest my case

@whizqueen is the said property situated in Lagos here?

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The only way to win is through psychological warfare.

3 black candles
3 red candles
6 members of Celestial church
1 bell.
3 incense

Early morning, light the candles and have the Cele members gyrating to their songs. Dig a hole inside the compound and pretend that you are burying something while the Cele members will be ringing their bell and shouting stroke! Stroke!! Stroke!!!. Make sure you tie red bandana on your head and be murmuring some gibberish.

Light the incense when done and let it burn out.

They will pack out within 1 month. Nigerians are superstitious and scary fvckers.
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THREE SIMPLE AND COST EFFECTIVE STEPS.. 1. Report them to their bosses at their different offices. 2.Get another agent. 3.THE NEW AGENT NOW SERVES THEM A QUIT NOTICE. 4. HE ALSO PLACES AN ADVERT OF TO-LET CONSPICUOUSLY ON THE STRUCTURE.

Hi whizqueen. I empathize with your friend's mum. I had a tenant a while back who played a fast one on me and my undoing was that I trusted him much more than he was worthy of. So when I got a new tenant, I properly wrote an agreement and stipulated one month as the length of the notice to avoid a stories that touch.

To the issue, I will advice that she goes the due process route, more so that she has waited this long. Any resort to self-help may compound the problem more.

So I advise that;

1. Get a lawyer who knows his onions, preferably a young one. (I know a couple of good colleagues in Lagos). Only that competent legal services usually come at a cost.

2. He'd write a letter to these tenants detailing their atrocities and also serve them the Notice of Owners Intention to Recover Possession (7 day's Notice)

3. At the expiration of 7 day's he'd institute an action in a Magistrate's court.

Stage three is where he needs to be really smart. He ensure that the processes are served on time, get early dates and ensure that max. 3 months the suit is completed and decided in his favour. Then, he moves to execution of the judgmenr if they refuse to comply. Their luggage would be removed from the premises and moved to the court.

As an aside, she can disconnect the power source to their apartment for starters.

Go to court, serve them papers.... arrange "tenants" to come who will plead guilty and ask for a month. Judge gives fake tenants a month and bailiffs/police are notified

Date comes and you notify court they refused to leave... Bailiffs are ordered to evict them and this is legal

Where is the building located, cos I know of one around idimu axis. The only error committed so far is that u informed the tenant that you have sold the house, it's quite wrong. My advise is to go through court process though might take long but sincerely is the best approach. Removing the roof can give additional problem if para venture a learned person stays in the house. They can use that as an advantage. A word is enough for the wise.

whizqueen:
Very wicked meeehn. .. The poor woman cant even take care of little expenses after investing all her life to see that it was completed

Get a lawyer to write to them officially: address the letter to all the 'illegal' occupants of the property. Give them 2 days to vacate the premises in view of the renovation work that will commence soon. That way, no tenant can claim damages because you already wrote them and notified them indirectly that they are illegal occupants, having no case or claim whatsoever.

Within the said 2 days, commence your renovation work which involves pulling off roofs, doors and windows. Unless the woman picked the money she used to build the house from the drain. She has every right to enjoy her properties.

Next time, get a good lawyer to draft an agreement with prospective tenants. I learnt the bitter way too. In my own case, the worst was the 14months NEPA bill of N195,000 but my lawyer was good. He initiated the quit notice 4months after the tenant defaulted: tenant was served 6 months 'paid' notice, 3 months follow-up notice, 1 week reminder and then another 3 months at the court. At the end, he ensured the court siezed the tenants properties so as to recover the rent and utility bills. Court auctioned the said properties and part of the money recovered was used to settle NEPA bills.

mayorkyzo:
She should just take a truck of sand and gravel in front of their entrance,call carpenter to remove d roof that u r doing renovation...that's how I evicted some of my tenants that refused to pay me...they packed out on their own...

This guy you badt o.

You people are funny. Allowing tenants to have all this power when it's your sweat u used to build the House. It's because there's no fear of instant eviction like when your credit for phone finish, that's why they do una like this.

First of all ensure that there's a written agreement.

Second ensure that the agreement is monthly or weekly. Not yearly and finally, put access control system doors.

Just program the rent period into the doors card then carry the machine go hide for Ghana till it's time to collect new rent. All these abusers of privilege go stay away from your property.

InvertedHammer:
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The only way to win is through psychological warfare.

3 black candles
3 red candles
6 members of Celestial church
1 bell.
3 incense

Early morning, light the candles and have the Cele members gyrating to their songs. Dig a hole inside the compound and pretend that you are burying something while the Cele members will be ringing their bell and shouting stroke! Stroke!! Stroke!!!. Make sure you tie red bandana on your head and be murmuring some gibberish.

Light the incense when done and let it burn out.

They will pack out within 1 month. Nigerians are superstitious and scary fvckers.
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Lmaooooooooooooooooooooo.

Ishilove biko bia gukwa nke a.

Whizqueen, get thugs and pay them well to do the eviction. Make sure they are at home before breaking their doors to "fling" out their properties .

My younger brother and his friends threw one of our stubborn tenant out last yr April after owing for 1yr 5month.

If you need bouncers to do the job for u, chat me up

mayorkyzo:
She should just take a truck of sand and gravel in front of their entrance,call carpenter to remove d roof that u r doing renovation...that's how I evicted some of my tenants that refused to pay me...they packed out on their own...

yeah, another good suggestion but what about those under decking

Just wait for raining season & take out the roofs.

lepasharon:
Lol chai only in Africa! You know they can actually sue and claim ur putting them in danger because how can you renovate a house while someone is still in it and bla bla

My dear, the country is lawless already.
If someone can refuse to (a) Pay his rent for God knows how long and (b) vacate a property after given a 6 months notice plus a 3 months grace period, don't you think the owner of the house is also permitted to do whatever she pleases with her property?

At the emboldened, the tenants have no business being in that property at the time of the renovation.

The land lady probably hired a quack lawyer who doesn't know the law.

After evicting them, I'll sue them first for breach of contract.

bunmmy5:
Where is the building located, cos I know of one around idimu axis. The only error committed so far is that u informed the tenant that you have sold the house, it's quite wrong. My advise is to go through court process though might take long but sincerely is the best approach. Removing the roof can give additional problem if para venture a learned person stays in the house. They can use that as an advantage. A word is enough for the wise.

How can a learned person live in a rented apartment and not pay rent following an agreement?
I really don't understand.

InvertedHammer:
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The only way to win is through psychological warfare.

3 black candles
3 red candles
6 members of Celestial church
1 bell.
3 incense

Early morning, light the candles and have the Cele members gyrating to their songs. Dig a hole inside the compound and pretend that you are burying something while the Cele members will be ringing their bell and shouting stroke! Stroke!! Stroke!!!. Make sure you tie red bandana on your head and be murmuring some gibberish.

Light the incense when done and let it burn out.

They will pack out within 1 month. Nigerians are superstitious and scary fvckers.
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Oboy
See as you make me fall for chair with laff sotey people dey rush dey come