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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:10pm On Feb 21, 2017

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by overhypedsteve(m): 8:12pm On Feb 21, 2017
africaken254:


Learn atleast to upload a youtube grin grin grin grin
here lies our last attempt at building an expeditionary armed forces. look at them, imagine what they would have looked like in their better days. all 13 of them rusting away along with our hopes and dreams of seeing a greater Nigerian Airforce. to think we are now begging for Tucanos even after we have acquired these beauties in the past is to show you how corrupt and selfish some of our present civilian defense planners are. Rest in Peace Jaguar, you never had the chance to roar.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:12pm On Feb 21, 2017
photos of President Abdel Fattah El-Sisi of Egypt during his departure from Kenya ,after the end of his state visit

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:14pm On Feb 21, 2017
Zambia’s first female fighter pilot

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXqcC_L2B40

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by overhypedsteve(m): 8:22pm On Feb 21, 2017
jln115:
SANDF Night shoot...impressive as always:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD-M4Agicqk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAzfwVf2YsQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGx8ZrlQvfE
that was beautiful. how do you guys manage such shows in your cities? those Guns have very long ranges and could hit structures and persons beyond that area.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:24pm On Feb 21, 2017
overhypedsteve:
that was beautiful. how do you guys manage such shows in your cities? those Guns have very long ranges and could hit structures and persons beyond that area.
Well, beyond that area is the ocean.....not much to hit in the ocean!! cool cool

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:35pm On Feb 21, 2017
overhypedsteve:
here lies our last attempt at building an expeditionary armed forces. look at them, imagine what they would have looked like in their better days. all 13 of them rusting away along with our hopes and dreams of seeing a greater Nigerian Airforce. to think we are now begging for Tucanos even after we have acquired these beauties in the past is to show you how corrupt and selfish some of our present civilian defense planners are. Rest in Peace Jaguar, you never had the chance to roar.

All these long stories for a 3rd Generation jet with no radar.

Nigeria is not begging to buy Tucanos, we need aeroplanes like the Tucano to prosecute our insurgency in a cost effective manner. It is an operational necessity.

There are no hopes and dreams in a 3rd generation fighter in 2017, that jet has been retired by virtually every other user apart from India. That's why we are going for the JF-17 thunder.

There is no corruption in the Jaguar, they are lazy stripped down jets sold to Nigeria by the British, who there after slapped sanctions on Nigeria and so we could not buy spares.

You should be well aware of your historical facts before passing off comments here with authority.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:37pm On Feb 21, 2017
overhypedsteve:
here lies our last attempt at building an expeditionary armed forces. look at them, imagine what they would have looked like in their better days. all 13 of them rusting away along with our hopes and dreams of seeing a greater Nigerian Airforce. to think we are now begging for Tucanos even after we have acquired these beauties in the past is to show you how corrupt and selfish some of our present civilian defense planners are. Rest in Peace Jaguar, you never had the chance to roar.
this is typical of africa government institutions,we let them run into the ground,we need to know what our armed forces are doing constantly.they should be mandated to show the public,their state of preparedness,equipment maintenance,facilities maintenance and any improvement e.t.c it shocks me that i know so much about israel defence force than my own country military force,they regular post videos and videos of their military training exercises,equipment's,social responsibility programs and so much.while its known they are the most secretive military in the world.if we don't keep an eye on men and women of our armed force ,one day we will regret it

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:37pm On Feb 21, 2017
Odunayaw:
wetin we go name this babe
seventh day don nearly reach

I don't know if there is an official name for it yet, it is currently designated as an IPV in the service of the Nigerian army.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:39pm On Feb 21, 2017
Angolan Aw-109

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by darknetcom: 8:51pm On Feb 21, 2017
Henry240:


All these long stories for a 3rd Generation jet with no radar.

Nigeria is not begging to buy Tucanos, we need aeroplanes like the Tucano to prosecute our insurgency in a cost effective manner.

There are no holes and dreams in a 3rd generation fighter in 2017, that jet has been retired by virtually every other user apart from India. That's why we are going for the JF-17 thunder.

There is no corruption in the Jaguar, they are lazy stripped down jets sold to Nigeria by the British, who there after slapped sanctions on Nigeria.

You should be well aware of your historical facts before passing off comments here with authority.

are you trying to tell us the jaguars can not be armed and put into use??..

whats your point..??..

to hell with tuscanies....

i didnt even knew that we had so many jets rusting away...
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by darknetcom: 8:57pm On Feb 21, 2017
am out..

someone is trying to hack my line again....
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:04pm On Feb 21, 2017
overhypedsteve:
here lies our last attempt at building an expeditionary armed forces. look at them, imagine what they would have looked like in their better days. all 13 of them rusting away along with our hopes and dreams of seeing a greater Nigerian Airforce. to think we are now begging for Tucanos even after we have acquired these beauties in the past is to show you how corrupt and selfish some of our present civilian defense planners are. Rest in Peace Jaguar, you never had the chance to roar.
if as it is said that they were grounded due to santions,why wasn't some cannibalised to allow some to be airworthy at that like !? iran still has most of its western jets airworthy even during its intense war with iraq and to this day.they have being made airworthy by cannibalsing others for parts,indigenously manufacturing parts and components,also getting parts and components on the black market
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:07pm On Feb 21, 2017
They must have brought those jets outside for a reason ,cos they have always been parked inside their hangers.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by overhypedsteve(m): 9:21pm On Feb 21, 2017
Henry240:


All these long stories for a 3rd Generation jet with no radar.

Nigeria is not begging to buy Tucanos, we need aeroplanes like the Tucano to prosecute our insurgency in a cost effective manner.

There are no holes and dreams in a 3rd generation fighter in 2017, that jet has been retired by virtually every other user apart from India. That's why we are going for the JF-17 thunder.

There is no corruption in the Jaguar, they are lazy stripped down jets sold to Nigeria by the British, who there after slapped sanctions on Nigeria.

You should be well aware of your historical facts before passing off comments here with authority.
The jets were delivered in 1984 and at that time a 3rd generation jet meant something. historical facts or no historical facts the reason why we do not make such major purchases like this again is because of the corrupt officials at the helm of affairs. ask yourself these questions, is the Tucano the only Ground attack capable Jet in the Market? is the Tucano the best we can find in the Market? so why is it that it is either the Tucano or nothing else. even when there are better Eastern alternatives. We dont need Airplanes like the Tucanos we need Airplanes to prosecute our counter insurgency operations, no matter where or how they come, forget the cost effective thing poorer nations have fought wars with better assets it just depends on where your interest lies and clearly the interest of our defense planner lies in their pocket. This one is telling me about cost effective, do you think someone that have more than 9.8 million dollar hidden in his sewage tank understand the meaning of "cost effective"?

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:31pm On Feb 21, 2017
overhypedsteve:
The jets were delivered in 1984 and at that time a 3rd generation jet meant something. historical facts or no historical facts the reason why we do not make such major purchases like this again is because of the corrupt officials at the helm of affairs. ask yourself these questions, is the Tucano the only Ground attack capable Jet in the Market? is the Tucano the best we can find in the Market? so why is it that it is either the Tucano or nothing else. even when there are better Eastern alternatives. We dont need Airplanes like the Tucanos we need Airplanes to prosecute our counter insurgency operations, no matter where or how they come, forget the cost effective thing poorer nations have fought wars with better assets it just depends on where your interest lies and clearly the interest of our defense planner lies in their pocket. This one is telling me about cost effective, do you think someone that have more than 9.8 million dollar hidden in his sewage tank understand the meaning of "cost effective"?

What you actually need is a dictionary.

Definition of COST–EFFECTIVE

producing good results without costing a lot of money
< cost–effective measures to combat poverty> <Robot
spot welding can be quite cost–effective …


I'm not going to engage in a.... It would have been a discussion if you knew what you were talking about. In whatever this is, so, I'll have to leave it at that.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:54pm On Feb 21, 2017
darknetcom:


are you trying to tell us the jaguars can not be armed and put into use??..

whats your point..??..

to hell with tuscanies....

i didnt even knew that we had so many jets rusting away...
Im with @Henry240 on this one.....Those Jaguars are nothing more than scrape metal, it would literally cost more to get them operational than it would to buy a brand new F7!

What Nigeria need now are dedicated COIN aircraft like the Tucano......although i would much prefer NAF striking a deal with Paramount for the Mwari!!

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Hrmnn: 10:04pm On Feb 21, 2017
africaken254:
if as it is said that they were grounded due to santions,why wasn't some cannibalised to allow some to be airworthy at that like !? iran still has most of its western jets airworthy even during its intense war with iraq and to this day.they have being made airworthy by cannibalsing others for parts,indigenously manufacturing parts and components,also getting parts and components on the black market

I'm not as well informed on the Jaguar as some of the other aircraft enthusiasts on this forum, but I'd like to point out that the only reason Iran could keep its Western aircraft airworthy was because it purchases the (predominantly US made) parts for them on the black market at exorbitant prices. Some countries that are retiring old US aircraft probably allow their remaining inventories of spares to be sold to Iran through back channels.

I once read an interesting book about the Iran-Iraq War in which it mentioned the Iranian military has always had to spent several times the normal market price on spare parts for everything due to sanctions.

You can only cannibalise so many parts before you run out, indigenous manufacturing is impossible without the blueprints or the right tooling equipment, and black market parts are also quite expensive. Iran only did the latter because it had no choice. With the amount of money it spent on keeping those old aircraft operational, it could have purchased more brand new aircraft that were far superior.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by overhypedsteve(m): 10:16pm On Feb 21, 2017
Henry240:


What you actually need is a dictionary.

Definition of COST–EFFECTIVE

producing good results without costing a lot of money
< cost–effective measures to combat poverty> <Robot
spot welding can be quite cost–effective …


I'm not going to engage in a.... It would have been a discussion if you knew what you were talking about. In whatever this is, so, I'll have to leave it at that.
i know what you are talking about. if our leaders really want to equip the armed forces with the amount of money that we all have seen them stealing from it, then "cost" wouldn't ever be the problem. like i said earlier " poorer nations have fought wars with better assets" how can you even put the words cost effective together and use them to describe an aircraft that we have been trying to procure for years without success(even at the high point of the insurgency when we needed them urgently, costing us our pride in the international scene, whereby because of this said Aircraft our Armed forces have been described as unprofessional, human right abusers. fielding the Aircraft might be cost effective but procuring one has cost us a lot as a sovereign state in terms of National pride.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 10:37pm On Feb 21, 2017
jln115:



What Nigeria need now are dedicated COIN aircraft like the Tucano...... although i would much prefer NAF striking a deal with Paramount for the Mwari!!
same with me Jock
I would love d success of the Mwari

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 10:40pm On Feb 21, 2017
overhypedsteve:
i know what you are talking about. if our leaders really want to equip the armed forces with the amount of money that we all have seen them stealing from it, then "cost" wouldn't ever be the problem. like i said earlier " poorer nations have fought wars with better assets" how can you even put the words cost effective together and use them to describe an aircraft that we have been trying to procure for years without success(even at the high point of the insurgency when we needed them urgently, costing us our pride in the international scene, whereby because of this said Aircraft our Armed forces have been described as unprofessional, human right abusers. fielding the Aircraft might be cost effective but procuring one has cost us a lot as a sovereign state in terms of National pride.
while u r at it Steve, u mind telling any aircraft better than the super tucano in d market?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 10:52pm On Feb 21, 2017
jln115:
SANDF Night shoot...impressive as always:

@6:40

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_qgpoWJ11g


Flyby by rooivalk during the insertion at 7:46 was impressive. By guess, during a real life situation, the two rooivalk wont fly at the same position.

10:20 Dammnn so beautiful.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Obostone: 11:01pm On Feb 21, 2017
Hrmnn:


I'm not as well informed on the Jaguar as some of the other aircraft enthusiasts on this forum, but I'd like to point out that the only reason Iran could keep its Western aircraft airworthy was because it purchases the (predominantly US made) parts for them on the black market at exorbitant prices. Some countries that are retiring old US aircraft probably allow their remaining inventories of spares to be sold to Iran through back channels.

I once read an interesting book about the Iran-Iraq War in which it mentioned the Iranian military has always had to spent several times the normal market price on spare parts for everything due to sanctions.

You can only cannibalise so many parts before you run out, indigenous manufacturing is impossible without the blueprints or the right tooling equipment, and black market parts are also quite expensive. Iran only did the latter because it had no choice. With the amount of money it spent on keeping those old aircraft operational, it could have purchased more brand new aircraft that were far superior.
good point but they took the difficult route instead buying new oned and now they probably have the means to build their own. Plus sanction would not have allowed them to buy new fighter jet from many countries with the ecveption of maybe Russia and others.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by LTGEN: 11:39pm On Feb 21, 2017
Henry240:


I know bro. I was pleasantly surprised when I saw a photo or two of our guys receiving medals at a ceremony.

It makes sense to train in that country. They got vast experience fighting in the jungle and their own Navy SBS are also quite respected in the South East Asia region.
This is the aftermath of the visit from the top leadership of the Nigerian Naval to Sri Lanka and the reciprocal visit from the top leadership of Sri Lanka
Results so far
Nigeria bought 9 tiger boats from S.L.
In return Nigeria sent her SBS to train with can be regarded as one of the most ruthless of Naval SF.
I would like the Nigerian Navy and Sri Lankan Navies to get together , it is very doubtful they will be doing Fire drills grin grin tongue
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:56pm On Feb 21, 2017
LTGEN:

This is the aftermath of the visit from the top leadership of the Nigerian Naval to Sri Lanka and the reciprocal visit from the top leadership of Sri Lanka
Results so far
Nigeria bought 9 tiger boats from S.L.
In return Nigeria sent her SBS to train with can be regarded as one of the most ruthless of Naval SF.
I would like the Nigerian Navy and Sri Lankan Navies to get together , it is very doubtful they will be doing Fire drills grin grin tongue
Even NA has guys in sri Lanka too
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:01am On Feb 22, 2017
Odunayaw:
while u r at it Steve, u mind telling any aircraft better than the super tucano in d market?
I jump and pass, please don't toy around with this idea.
God punish Satan lipsrsealed.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 12:09am On Feb 22, 2017
jakeporeshenko:
I jump and pass, please don't toy around with this idea.
God punish Satan lipsrsealed.
lol
I wan see wetin d baba wan yarn ni

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by LTGEN: 12:12am On Feb 22, 2017
Hrmnn:


I'm not as well informed on the Jaguar as some of the other aircraft enthusiasts on this forum, but I'd like to point out that the only reason Iran could keep its Western aircraft airworthy was because it purchases the (predominantly US made) parts for them on the black market at exorbitant prices. Some countries that are retiring old US aircraft probably allow their remaining inventories of spares to be sold to Iran through back channels.

I once read an interesting book about the Iran-Iraq War in which it mentioned the Iranian military has always had to spent several times the normal market price on spare parts for everything due to sanctions.

You can only cannibalise so many parts before you run out, indigenous manufacturing is impossible without the blueprints or the right tooling equipment, and black market parts are also quite expensive. Iran only did the latter because it had no choice. With the amount of money it spent on keeping those old aircraft operational, it could have purchased more brand new aircraft that were far superior.
Israel ADMITTED to selling parts and weapons to Iran.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nok234: 12:35am On Feb 22, 2017
overhypedsteve:
here lies our last attempt at building an expeditionary armed forces. look at them, imagine what they would have looked like in their better days. all 13 of them rusting away along with our hopes and dreams of seeing a greater Nigerian Airforce. to think we are now begging for Tucanos even after we have acquired these beauties in the past is to show you how corrupt and selfish some of our present civilian defense planners are. Rest in Peace Jaguar, you never had the chance to roar.
Is not the same thing every type of war, need the defferent types of weapons. I am not saying that against insurgent we dont need ground attack fighters the priority is to have first something like Tunaco then a ground attack fighter later
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by lionel4power(m): 1:29am On Feb 22, 2017
overhypedsteve:
The jets were delivered in 1984 and at that time a 3rd generation jet meant something. historical facts or no historical facts the reason why we do not make such major purchases like this again is because of the corrupt officials at the helm of affairs. ask yourself these questions, is the Tucano the only Ground attack capable Jet in the Market? is the Tucano the best we can find in the Market? so why is it that it is either the Tucano or nothing else. even when there are better Eastern alternatives. We dont need Airplanes like the Tucanos we need Airplanes to prosecute our counter insurgency operations, no matter where or how they come, forget the cost effective thing poorer nations have fought wars with better assets it just depends on where your interest lies and clearly the interest of our defense planner lies in their pocket. This one is telling me about cost effective, do you think someone that have more than 9.8 million dollar hidden in his sewage tank understand the meaning of "cost effective"?
The funny thing is that there are so many alternative out there to purchase from, for instance this beautifully crafted piece of machinery the saffers churned out of their brilliant mind (AHRLAC).Theres so many options out there but will our stu pid politicians or military brass attempt. no! so many options available, we need one NOW!!

*AHRLAC Holdings Ahrlac (South Africa)
*Britten-Norman Defender (U.K.)
*FMA IA 58 Pucará (Argentina)
*SIAI-Marchetti SF.260 (Italy)
*Soko J-20 Kraguj (Yugoslavia / Serbia)
*TAI Hürkuş (Turkey)
*UTVA Kobac (Serbia)

i personally would have recommended the the south african ahrlac (mwari) for payload and sensors or the turkish TAI Hurkus because it looks EXACTLY like the super tucano and has similar spec but with no hulabaloo involved.


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The guy up there saying that he doesnt think the airtractor is worth it should please calm down. The airtractor represents massive firepower on a cheap airframe. The only difference between a tucano and an airtractor is probably >> tandem seat and avionics<<... the rest is just aesthetic value.

pics 1) AirTractor
pic 2) airTractor
pic 3)Super Tucano
pic 4) Turkish TAI Hukus

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 2:02am On Feb 22, 2017
Do your assignments well. Air tractor won't get to Nigeria. The super Tucano is the best we can get knowing fully Nigeria also signed a MOU on UAV production with a Brazilian company then the reason for going for the Tucano is obvious.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Hrmnn: 2:14am On Feb 22, 2017
LTGEN:

Israel ADMITTED to selling parts and weapons to Iran.

Yes, most of the engine parts for the Iranian F-4 Phantoms were sourced from Israel during the Iran-Iraq War.

There's even a Wikipedia article on the topic.

No doubt they made a healthy profit.

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