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Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by Nobody: 3:48pm On Mar 24, 2017 |
Olu317:Oga go to Ife and stop calling me a Liar (My friend's dad is one of the High Priest there. My Uncle was Area Commander there for a while and I used that opportunity to meet Important people and asked questions) Oduduwa was never called Ooni when he was king of Ife abeg. It was after his Death that they started using the title Ooniririsha for kings. PS :- I don't even know the Book you're talking about. Don't come here saying things you don't know about. |
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by codemaniacs: 3:52pm On Mar 24, 2017 |
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Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by baby124: 3:55pm On Mar 24, 2017 |
Olu317:How does this prove Yoruba and Egypt connection? |
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by baby124: 3:55pm On Mar 24, 2017 |
codemaniacs:Iru means soy bean. Not seeds |
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by Olu317(m): 4:00pm On Mar 24, 2017 |
baby124:Are you reading the Bible like your NOVEL? The Bible referred to the acknowledgement of creation which you can't calculate at the rate of 6,000 years because, A THOUSAND YEARS IS A DAY IN THE CALCULATION OF BIBLE(1,000 year =1day) . Study the Bible before reference. |
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by codemaniacs: 4:01pm On Mar 24, 2017 |
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Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by baby124: 4:04pm On Mar 24, 2017 |
Olu317:Lol. Sure, that's where the dating comes from. The creation story. God created the world in 6days and rested on the 7th. If each day is 1,000 years then the Bible is essentially stating the earth is not older than 7,000 years. This bible dating of the earth is even proven by very competent researchers. I want to ask you, if the earth is truly about 7,000 years old, then who the heck built Dufuna canoe. Hahahahaha. The Bible should be seen as a moral book, not factual. Kind of like a collection of moral stories we had growing up. |
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by Olu317(m): 4:04pm On Mar 24, 2017 |
codemaniacs:Show me who were the first writers of history if not religious leaders ? you aren't well studious. Do you even know how Yoruba used to write in ancient? |
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by baby124: 4:06pm On Mar 24, 2017 |
codemaniacs:Yoruba is not a Yoruba word. I have forgotten the translation of seeds in Yoruba but it's not Iru. Iru is fermented Soy beans. |
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by Olu317(m): 4:09pm On Mar 24, 2017 |
baby124:YOUR MULTIPLICATION OUGHT TO BE; if 1000=1 day, then 1000× 6000=? |
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by baby124: 4:13pm On Mar 24, 2017 |
Olu317:Olu you don't know maths. If the world was created in 6 days or 7 in total and 1 day is a 1,000 years in the Bible when it related to a creation story. Then the world is a maximum of 7x1,000= 7,000 according to the Bible. We now know that is not correct. |
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by codemaniacs: 4:13pm On Mar 24, 2017 |
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Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by absoluteSuccess: 4:20pm On Mar 24, 2017 |
baby124: Well your point is anachronistic in nature: agreed, Sheba lived 3000 years ago. This timeline is impossible to attain in which area of argument? How would someone who lived like 1500 years before islam turn out to be a muslim just because he or she existed? So Musa was a muslim? Quranic reference to queen of Sheba had no idea where she came from, while islamic tradition associate her with ethiopia/Yemeni league. If the Ijebu built the Eredo civilization, haven't you ever heard that Ijebu also has probability of being named after the Jebusites of old? Now the capital of king Solomon was an ancient stronghold of Jebusites, if you agree the Sheba story is recent, how recent is Jebusites and Ijebu? How did two stunners turn out from the same realm? I will love you to reveal the source or reasons behind your '250' as you may be prone to vague speculation you blame people for. 2 Likes |
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by Olu317(m): 4:20pm On Mar 24, 2017 |
baby124:This is evidence that proves Yoruba weren't local people. One researcher Professor Frobenius calls those Etruscan cultures which found their way into Yorubaland the ‘Atlantic culture’. He rejects Egypt as the main influencer or as the geographical origin of the Yorubas. He based his hypothesis on the fact that there are many Etruscan cultural practices amongst North Africans that are similar to those of the Yorubas and he thinks that it was easier to travel from North Africa to Yorubaland than from Egypt to Yorubaland (Frobenius 1968:186–204). Frobenius says that the Yoruba and the Atlantic culture share: • Water storage construction systems. He emphasised that the style of houses constructed by the Yorubas was similar to those used by the Etruscans, Moroccans and Algerians whereby the Impluvium is built in the centre of the house whilst apartments with verandas are built in a rectangular form. • The construction of their houses. Yorubas construct houses with ridge roofs that are similar to those in North Africa. • The colour and form of bows and arrows used by the Yorubas are similar to those in Morocco. • The North African hand loom, unknown in the Sudan, is found amongst Yoruba woman. • The drum shape and other articles peculiar to North Africa are not found in the Sudan, but are found in Yorubland. • The existence of the ‘Templum ’, amongst both the Yorubas and North Africans whereby houses are built round a temple or sacred building; even in towns, houses were generally built around sacred buildings. Frobenius thinks that even the religion of Ile Ife is based on the ‘Templum ’ idea (Frobenius 1968:336). Frobenius’s archaeological findings particularly when comparing certain articles and house-forms between North Africa and the Yorubas, are true (Lucas 1948:348), 6 but his conclusions still raise some questions. Firstly, these same Etruscan elements like the hood loom, arrow, Impluvium , Templum and others listed by Frobenius are also widely used in Egypt but Frobenius did not explain how these cultures found their way into Egypt. The presence of Etruscan elements in both Egypt and North Africa suggest that these regions (Egypt and North Africa) were earlier influenced by these elements through their contact with the Etruscans. Lucas (1948:349) says that Frobenius’s view that all monuments of the ancient Atlantic culture are placed on the coast (Frobenius 1968:336) can also be questioned because important Yoruba places like Ile Ife and Offa where these monuments (Etruscan articles) were found are about two hundred miles away from the coast (Lucas 1948:349). As a result, Lucas (1948:351) believes that the Etruscan culture did not originate in Egypt yet the culture passed through Egypt and from there to Yorubaland. YORUBA WERE MIGRANTS TO NIGERIA..FOR YOUR PERUSAL 1 Like |
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by Olu317(m): 4:28pm On Mar 24, 2017 |
codemaniacs:How old is Mahli Empire compare to Egypt? You mentioned Egypt as it was ruled solely by black. Are You not just too funny? Show me pictures of Egypt pictorial historic documents seen in Mahli. I maintain, you are not studious enough. How many groups lived in Egypt during 18th/19th BC between the lower Egypt and upper Egypt? You referring to Mahli Kingdom that even dreaded ILE IFE. YOU don't know Jack shit. |
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by baby124: 4:31pm On Mar 24, 2017 |
absoluteSuccess:How old is Islam in Yorubaland? That will answer your question as to how I came about 250yrs. There was a woman who was called Billkis by the locals. This is clearly a Muslim name. Islam was not in Yorubaland at the building of Eredo. So, I hope you see the impossibility of a Billkis Sungbo building Eredo. Billkis Sungbo was obviously a strange figure. I could argue she may have had some form of mental illness to sleep in the bush around a deserted settlement. People were obviously in awe of her and had no knowledge of how Eredo came to be. They must have come to a conclusion that Billkis Sungbo must have built this strange settlement since she slept and survived in the area as a mysterious figure. We know African's tend to elevate mysterious things they don't understand. |
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by baby124: 4:34pm On Mar 24, 2017 |
Olu317:Why is it so hard for you to actually conceive the fact that Yorubaland was built without foreign intervention? Same as other African cultures? I want to understand where this kind of thought is coming from. Do you mean that we did not have the mental ability to achieve what we did, without a civilization like Egypt which you are actually in awe of. If Egyptians built Yorubaland, where are their pyramids |
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by Olu317(m): 4:46pm On Mar 24, 2017 |
Amusaopeyemi:And how many versions of the history so do they give you ? Can you count? Go and read books and not one form of revisionist account. What title was Odu'a referred? you can also Go online and read stories being told between 1910s-1960s written by white scholars who had no interest but to write the story from the priests they met. Go to South and North America about the story of Yoruba. How then do they write the order of Oonis in this manner? All 51 Ooni’s Of Ile-Ife in history 1ST ODUDUWA 2ND OSANGANGAN OBAMAKIN 3RD OGUN 4TH OBALUFONO GBOGBODIRIN 5TH OBALUFON ALAYEMORE 6TH ORANMIYAN 7TH AYETISE 8TH LAJAMISAN 9TH LAJODOOGUN 10TH LAFOGIDO 11TH ODIDIMODE ROGBEESIN 12TH AWOROKOLOKIN 13TH EKUN 14TH AJIMUDA 15TH GBOONIJIO 16TH OKANLAJOSIN 17TH ADEGBALU 18TH OSINKOLA 19TH OGBORUU 20TH GIESI 21ST LUWOO (FEMALE) 22ND LUMOBI 23RD AGBEDEGBEDE 24TH OJELOKUNBIRIN 25TH LAGUNJA 26TH LARUNNKA 27TH ADEMILU 28TH OMOGBOGBO 29TH AJILA-OORUN 30TH ADEJINLE 31ST OLOJO 32ND OKITI 33RD LUGBADE 34TH ARIBIWOSO 35TH OSINLADE 36TH ADAGBA 37TH OJIGIDIRI 38TH AKINMOYERO 1770-1800 39TH GBANLARE 1800-1823 40TH GBEGBAAJE 1823-1835 41ST WUNMONIJE 1835-1839 42ND ADEGUNLE ADEWELA 1839-1849 43RD DEGBINSOKUN 1849-1878 44TH ORARIGBA 1878-1880 45TH DERIN OLOGBENLA- He was a powerful warrior! 1880-1894 46TH ADELEKAN (OLUBUSE I)- 1894-1910 47TH ADEKOLA 1910-1910 48TH ADEMILUYI (AJAGUN) . 1910-1930 49TH ADESOJI ADEREMI- (1930-1980)Minister without portfolio when he ruled from 1951 to 1955. He was the first indigenous governor of Western Nigeria. 50TH OKUNADE SIJUWADE- (1980-2015) 51st Enitan Adeyeye Ogunwusi, Ojaja 11 (2015-) |
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by ajalaolanr(m): 4:58pm On Mar 24, 2017 |
Olu317: Ok , I will look into those books , But if these books give credence to your argument, then they are at odds to what archaeologist have discovered in recent times. I do hope you know that books and articles are as valuable as the on going paradigm at the time the books were written, when theres a change in paradigm so does the value or the importance of those books due to the shift at that time , Just saying Cheers |
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by ElsonMorali: 5:10pm On Mar 24, 2017 |
codemaniacs: I have heard you. Just move to one side with your yeye logic. Iranu. I'm not Yoruba, because na you born me. Afira get off my mentions. 1 Like |
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by Olu317(m): 5:11pm On Mar 24, 2017 |
ajalaolanr:The radiocarbon test at EREDO IS FAR DIFFERENT FROM THE ACCOUNT EXISTENCE OF QUEEN SHEEBAH OF ETHIOPIA WHOM THE ARABS CALLED BILQIS / BILIKISU . SHE EVEN HAD A SON FOR SOLOMON WHOSE LINEAGE RULED ETHIOPIA FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS. HAILLE GABRIEL SALLESY CLAIMED HIS DIRECT DESCENDANT. BILIKISU OF YORUBA DIDN'T HAVE ANY CHILD ACCORDING TO ORAL ACCOUNT. |
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by Olu317(m): 5:11pm On Mar 24, 2017 |
ajalaolanr:The radiocarbon test at EREDO IS FAR DIFFERENT FROM THE ACCOUNT EXISTENCE OF QUEEN SHEEBAH OF ETHIOPIA WHOM THE ARABS CALLED BILQIS / BILIKISU . SHE EVEN HAD A SON FOR SOLOMON WHOSE LINEAGE RULED ETHIOPIA FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS. HAILLE GABRIEL SALLESY CLAIMED HIS DIRECT DESCENDANT. BILIKISU OF YORUBA DIDN'T HAVE ANY CHILD ACCORDING TO ORAL ACCOUNT. CHEERS. |
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by Kakamorufu(m): 5:15pm On Mar 24, 2017 |
baby124:seed is koro, kooro.. Kooro osan is orange seed |
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by ElsonMorali: 5:24pm On Mar 24, 2017 |
Olu317: Truth is, we can all make grand claims but unless they are proven beyond reasonable doubt, they will still be guesses, Maybe educated guesses, but guesses nonetheless. One thing that is common to the stories of all groups worldwide is water. Lots of it. Flood, If you like. And it is possible that there existed an advanced civilization that covered the earth way before this present one. If there was a flood that covered the whole earth at one point in time (and there are physical indications to support this theory) then the possibility of bodies being washed from one continent to another is very likely. There are whole cities buried under the sea and I read of a pyramid larger than the one at Giza in Egypt found beneath the Atlantic ocean where the Bermuda triangle is located. So there are indeed mysteries on this earth that we know Nothing of. Having said that, I must admit that I haven't read anything concerning Yoruba DNA that you mentioned. It'd be great If you can post a link here so that I can follow it. If only our rapacious politicians can be a little bit less myopic and understand the need to research, understand and preserve the Yoruba race... |
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by Flamezreal(m): 5:27pm On Mar 24, 2017 |
Can someone enlight me about EDE IFE i.e the language of ife. Thanks |
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by ElsonMorali: 5:30pm On Mar 24, 2017 |
Amusaopeyemi: You are quite right. Oduduwa was never referred to as Ooni, as a matter of fact, the first Ooni wasn't even his son. All his children had dispersed to found their own kingdoms. You're correct ma'am. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by Olu317(m): 6:12pm On Mar 24, 2017 |
ElsonMorali: According to several studies, Neanderthal DNA exists in all Europeans at a frequency of 1-3% as well as in Asians. Alongside those studies, the claim was made that Neanderthal DNA is absent in Africa. Recent studies revealed that this is not correct The white researchers tried to cover it after such massive discoveries. IF this wasn't true, how come Yoruba have 4% untraceable DNA? courtesy:rhesusnegative.net Here is one out of two I have seen...Even with the comparison along Ibo, Edo, Fulani. tracingafricanroots. wordpress. com/ancestrydna
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Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by ElsonMorali: 6:19pm On Mar 24, 2017 |
Olu317: Thanks I'll check it out. |
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by Olu317(m): 7:08pm On Mar 24, 2017 |
ElsonMorali:You are welcome 1 Like |
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by agrovick(m): 8:19pm On Mar 24, 2017 |
olureignforever: Thanks, I'm currently close to that axis. Will find time to feed my eyes |
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by baby124: 8:49pm On Mar 24, 2017 |
Kakamorufu:Thank you. |
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by baby124: 9:03pm On Mar 24, 2017 |
Olu317:I am sad that you quote this, because this is actually a racist attempt at Frobenius to discount Yoruba ability. In essence he was saying that African's were not mentally capable of such art as the Ife heads because they were so well done. He said who ever must have created those heads must have come to Ife to create it and must be from the Race of the Atlantis people. We now know this race of the Atlantis people likely do not exist. Yoruba's made those heads and even researchers of today condemn Frobenius's racism. |
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