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Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by Nobody: 3:48pm On Mar 24, 2017
Olu317:
Lie. Odua was the first OONI. IF YOU CLAIM, ODUA WASNT, WHO WAS? HAVE YOU BEEN READING ONLY SAMUEL JOHNSON HISTORY BOOK? YOU MUST BE FUNNY IF YOU READ YORUBA HISTORY BASED ON SAMUEL JOHNSON'S BOOK. WHO DO YOU THINK WAS IN CHARGE OF KEEPING THE HERITAGE OF ODU'A? OBADIOH/ OBADIO LINEAGE AT ILE IFE WERE IN CHARGE OF KEEPING ODUA SHRINE . AND NOT ONE UNKNOWN FOREIGNER....
Oga go to Ife and stop calling me a Liar (My friend's dad is one of the High Priest there. My Uncle was Area Commander there for a while and I used that opportunity to meet Important people and asked questions) Oduduwa was never called Ooni when he was king of Ife abeg.
It was after his Death that they started using the title Ooniririsha for kings.
PS :- I don't even know the Book you're talking about. Don't come here saying things you don't know about.
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by codemaniacs: 3:52pm On Mar 24, 2017
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Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by baby124: 3:55pm On Mar 24, 2017
Olu317:




Stone head carving of Paramessu (Ramesses I), originally part of a statue depicting him as a scribe. On display at the Museum of Fine Arts, Boston .
Pharaoh is attached here

Reign 1292–1290 BC or 1295–1294 BC ( 19th Dynasty )
Predecessor Horemheb
Successor Seti I
Royal titulary
Consort Sitre
Children Seti I
Father Seti
Died 1290 BC
Burial KV16


He was the 19th dynasty in Egypt. Stop all these egocentric ideology of Yoruba supremacy. I am even supposed to claim it with such pride but let truth be told. This is one reason, many information are always been suppressed but not anymore with the advent of a lot of people having access to INTERNET.
How does this prove Yoruba and Egypt connection?
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by baby124: 3:55pm On Mar 24, 2017
codemaniacs:


to understand yoruba, words have to be deconstructed..

Halleluyah = Aye oluwa(Ayeluwa) - Life of God/God is life.

jerusale(m) - je (eat) iru( seeds) isale(downstairs/ground) = eat seeds in the ground..

try to use logic... Anyone who understands the language knows how to interpret it... you and most people on this saying rubbish are definitely not yoruba so stop trying to complicate things you don't understand.. most of the time the answer you seek is right in front of you.. cool cool

Iru means soy bean. Not seeds
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by Olu317(m): 4:00pm On Mar 24, 2017
baby124:

That was an error and I corrected myself. She was most likely Jewish. Anyway we know the Bible is filled with stories of morality and not always accurate facts. Bible states the world is 6,000 years but we now know the world is way older than 6,000 years.
Are you reading the Bible like your NOVEL? The Bible referred to the acknowledgement of creation which you can't calculate at the rate of 6,000 years because, A THOUSAND YEARS IS A DAY IN THE CALCULATION OF BIBLE(1,000 year =1day) . Study the Bible before reference.
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by codemaniacs: 4:01pm On Mar 24, 2017
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Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by baby124: 4:04pm On Mar 24, 2017
Olu317:
Are you reading the Bible like your NOVEL? The Bible referred to the acknowledgement of creation which you can't calculate at the rate of 6,000 years because, A THOUSAND YEARS IS A DAY IN THE CALCULATION OF BIBLE(1,000 year =1day) . Study the Bible before reference.
Lol. Sure, that's where the dating comes from. The creation story. God created the world in 6days and rested on the 7th. If each day is 1,000 years then the Bible is essentially stating the earth is not older than 7,000 years. This bible dating of the earth is even proven by very competent researchers. I want to ask you, if the earth is truly about 7,000 years old, then who the heck built Dufuna canoe. Hahahahaha. The Bible should be seen as a moral book, not factual. Kind of like a collection of moral stories we had growing up.
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by Olu317(m): 4:04pm On Mar 24, 2017
codemaniacs:


you are not yoruba, u are like olu317 who relies on religious books and books written by people who would do anything to hide Africa's history from Africans..

since u claim iru is not seed... then deconstruct the word yoruba or ya-ruba since 99% of yoruba words contain multiple words.
Show me who were the first writers of history if not religious leaders ? you aren't well studious. Do you even know how Yoruba used to write in ancient?
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by baby124: 4:06pm On Mar 24, 2017
codemaniacs:


you are not yoruba, u are like olu317 who relies on religious books and books written by people who would do anything to hide Africa's history from Africans..

since u claim iru is not seed... then deconstruct the word yoruba or ya-ruba since 99% of yoruba words contain multiple words.
Yoruba is not a Yoruba word. I have forgotten the translation of seeds in Yoruba but it's not Iru. Iru is fermented Soy beans.
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by Olu317(m): 4:09pm On Mar 24, 2017
baby124:

Lol. Sure, that's where the dating comes from. The creation story. God created the world in 6days and rested on the 7th. If each day is 1,000 years then the Bible is essentially stating the earth is not older than 7,000 years. This bible dating of the earth is even proven by very competent researchers. I want to ask you, if the earth is truly about 7,000 years old, then who the heck built Dufuna canoe. Hahahahaha. The Bible should be seen as a moral book, not factual. Kind of like a collection of moral stories we had growing up.
YOUR MULTIPLICATION OUGHT TO BE; if 1000=1 day, then 1000× 6000=?
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by baby124: 4:13pm On Mar 24, 2017
Olu317:
YOUR MULTIPLICATION OUGHT TO BE; if 1000=1 day, then 1000× 6000=?
Olu you don't know maths. If the world was created in 6 days or 7 in total and 1 day is a 1,000 years in the Bible when it related to a creation story. Then the world is a maximum of 7x1,000= 7,000 according to the Bible. We now know that is not correct.
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by codemaniacs: 4:13pm On Mar 24, 2017
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Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by absoluteSuccess: 4:20pm On Mar 24, 2017
baby124:

Sheba existed 3,000 years ago. Even if she build Eredo which is extremely impossible, the locals will not know her as Billkis. If the Billkis figure existed, she would have been a convert of Islam and Islam was not in Yorubaland 1,000 years ago. So the Biilkis is about 200-250 years old. While Eredo is over 1,000 years old and Sheba is over 3,000 years old. The dates don't match. Eredo was built by another civilization of people, most likely ancient Ijebu people.

Well your point is anachronistic in nature: agreed, Sheba lived 3000 years ago. This timeline is impossible to attain in which area of argument?

How would someone who lived like 1500 years before islam turn out to be a muslim just because he or she existed? So Musa was a muslim?

Quranic reference to queen of Sheba had no idea where she came from, while islamic tradition associate her with ethiopia/Yemeni league.

If the Ijebu built the Eredo civilization, haven't you ever heard that Ijebu also has probability of being named after the Jebusites of old?

Now the capital of king Solomon was an ancient stronghold of Jebusites, if you agree the Sheba story is recent, how recent is Jebusites and Ijebu?

How did two stunners turn out from the same realm? I will love you to reveal the source or reasons behind your '250' as you may be prone to vague speculation you blame people for.

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Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by Olu317(m): 4:20pm On Mar 24, 2017
baby124:

How does this prove Yoruba and Egypt connection?
This is evidence that proves Yoruba weren't local people. One researcher Professor Frobenius calls those Etruscan cultures which found their way into Yorubaland the ‘Atlantic culture’. He rejects Egypt as the main influencer or as the geographical origin of the Yorubas. He based his hypothesis on the fact that there are many Etruscan cultural practices amongst North Africans that are similar to those of the Yorubas and he thinks that it was easier to travel from North Africa to Yorubaland than from Egypt to Yorubaland (Frobenius 1968:186–204). Frobenius says that the Yoruba and the Atlantic culture share:

• Water storage construction systems. He emphasised that the style of houses constructed by the Yorubas was similar to those used by the Etruscans, Moroccans and Algerians whereby the
Impluvium is built in the centre of the house whilst apartments with verandas are built in a rectangular form.
• The construction of their houses. Yorubas construct houses with ridge roofs that are similar to those in North Africa.
• The colour and form of bows and arrows used by the Yorubas are similar to those in Morocco.
• The North African hand loom, unknown in the Sudan, is found amongst Yoruba woman.
• The drum shape and other articles peculiar to North Africa are not found in the Sudan, but are found in Yorubland.
• The existence of the ‘Templum ’, amongst both the Yorubas and North Africans whereby houses are built round a temple or sacred building; even in towns, houses were generally built around sacred buildings. Frobenius thinks that even the religion of Ile Ife is based on the ‘Templum ’ idea (Frobenius 1968:336).

Frobenius’s archaeological findings particularly when comparing certain articles and house-forms between North Africa and the Yorubas, are true (Lucas 1948:348), 6 but his conclusions still raise some questions. Firstly, these same Etruscan elements like the hood loom, arrow, Impluvium , Templum and others listed by Frobenius are also widely used in Egypt but Frobenius did not explain how these cultures found their way into Egypt. The presence of Etruscan elements in both Egypt and North Africa suggest that these regions (Egypt and North Africa) were earlier influenced by these elements through their contact with the Etruscans. Lucas (1948:349) says that Frobenius’s view that all monuments of the ancient Atlantic culture are placed on the coast (Frobenius 1968:336) can also be questioned because important Yoruba places like Ile Ife and Offa where these monuments (Etruscan articles) were found are about two hundred miles away from the coast (Lucas 1948:349). As a result, Lucas (1948:351) believes that the Etruscan culture did not originate in Egypt yet the culture passed through Egypt and from there to Yorubaland.

YORUBA WERE MIGRANTS TO NIGERIA..FOR YOUR PERUSAL

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Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by Olu317(m): 4:28pm On Mar 24, 2017
codemaniacs:


religious leaders were colonialists who did anything to subjugate Africa... Africans were the first writers of history, go to great pyramid or libraries in Mali and look at the drawings... that's visual history but your kind would rather go to i-srael or a-rabia to look for history...



stop seeing it as one word.. it is definitely a yo-ruba word but u don't want unlock history cool cool cool
How old is Mahli Empire compare to Egypt? You mentioned Egypt as it was ruled solely by black. Are You not just too funny? Show me pictures of Egypt pictorial historic documents seen in Mahli. I maintain, you are not studious enough. How many groups lived in Egypt during 18th/19th BC between the lower Egypt and upper Egypt? You referring to Mahli Kingdom that even dreaded ILE IFE. YOU don't know Jack poo.
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by baby124: 4:31pm On Mar 24, 2017
absoluteSuccess:


Well your point is anachronistic in nature: agreed, Sheba lived 3000 years ago. This timeline is impossible to attain in which area of argument?

How would someone who lived like 1500 years before islam turn out to be a muslim just because he or she existed? So Musa was a muslim?

Quranic reference to queen of Sheba had no idea where she came from, while islamic tradition associate her with ethiopia/Yemeni league.

If the Ijebu built the Eredo civilization, haven't you ever heard that Ijebu also has probability of being named after the Jebusites of old?

Now the capital of king Solomon was an ancient stronghold of Jebusites, if you agree the Sheba story is recent, how recent is Jebusites and Ijebu?

How did two stunners turn out from the same realm? I will love you to reveal the source or reasons behind your '250' as you may be prone to vague speculation you blame people for.
How old is Islam in Yorubaland? That will answer your question as to how I came about 250yrs. There was a woman who was called Billkis by the locals. This is clearly a Muslim name. Islam was not in Yorubaland at the building of Eredo. So, I hope you see the impossibility of a Billkis Sungbo building Eredo. Billkis Sungbo was obviously a strange figure. I could argue she may have had some form of mental illness to sleep in the bush around a deserted settlement. People were obviously in awe of her and had no knowledge of how Eredo came to be. They must have come to a conclusion that Billkis Sungbo must have built this strange settlement since she slept and survived in the area as a mysterious figure. We know African's tend to elevate mysterious things they don't understand.
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by baby124: 4:34pm On Mar 24, 2017
Olu317:
This is evidence that proves Yoruba weren't local people. One researcher Professor Frobenius calls those Etruscan cultures which found their way into Yorubaland the ‘Atlantic culture’. He rejects Egypt as the main influencer or as the geographical origin of the Yorubas. He based his hypothesis on the fact that there are many Etruscan cultural practices amongst North Africans that are similar to those of the Yorubas and he thinks that it was easier to travel from North Africa to Yorubaland than from Egypt to Yorubaland (Frobenius 1968:186–204). Frobenius says that the Yoruba and the Atlantic culture share:

• Water storage construction systems. He emphasised that the style of houses constructed by the Yorubas was similar to those used by the Etruscans, Moroccans and Algerians whereby the
Impluvium is built in the centre of the house whilst apartments with verandas are built in a rectangular form.
• The construction of their houses. Yorubas construct houses with ridge roofs that are similar to those in North Africa.
• The colour and form of bows and arrows used by the Yorubas are similar to those in Morocco.
• The North African hand loom, unknown in the Sudan, is found amongst Yoruba woman.
• The drum shape and other articles peculiar to North Africa are not found in the Sudan, but are found in Yorubland.
• The existence of the ‘Templum ’, amongst both the Yorubas and North Africans whereby houses are built round a temple or sacred building; even in towns, houses were generally built around sacred buildings. Frobenius thinks that even the religion of Ile Ife is based on the ‘Templum ’ idea (Frobenius 1968:336).

Frobenius’s archaeological findings particularly when comparing certain articles and house-forms between North Africa and the Yorubas, are true (Lucas 1948:348), 6 but his conclusions still raise some questions. Firstly, these same Etruscan elements like the hood loom, arrow, Impluvium , Templum and others listed by Frobenius are also widely used in Egypt but Frobenius did not explain how these cultures found their way into Egypt. The presence of Etruscan elements in both Egypt and North Africa suggest that these regions (Egypt and North Africa) were earlier influenced by these elements through their contact with the Etruscans. Lucas (1948:349) says that Frobenius’s view that all monuments of the ancient Atlantic culture are placed on the coast (Frobenius 1968:336) can also be questioned because important Yoruba places like Ile Ife and Offa where these monuments (Etruscan articles) were found are about two hundred miles away from the coast (Lucas 1948:349). As a result, Lucas (1948:351) believes that the Etruscan culture did not originate in Egypt yet the culture passed through Egypt and from there to Yorubaland.

YORUBA WERE MIGRANTS TO NIGERIA..FOR YOUR PERUSAL


Why is it so hard for you to actually conceive the fact that Yorubaland was built without foreign intervention? Same as other African cultures? I want to understand where this kind of thought is coming from. Do you mean that we did not have the mental ability to achieve what we did, without a civilization like Egypt which you are actually in awe of. If Egyptians built Yorubaland, where are their pyramids
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by Olu317(m): 4:46pm On Mar 24, 2017
Amusaopeyemi:

Oga go to Ife and stop calling me a Liar (My friend's dad is one of the High Priest there. My Uncle was Area Commander there for a while and I used that opportunity to meet Important people and asked questions) Oduduwa was never called Ooni when he was king of Ife abeg.
It was after his Death that they started using the title Ooniririsha for kings.
PS :- I don't even know the Book you're talking about. Don't come here saying things you don't know about.
And how many versions of the history so do they give you ? Can you count? Go and read books and not one form of revisionist account. What title was Odu'a referred? you can also Go online and read stories being told between 1910s-1960s written by white scholars who had no interest but to write the story from the priests they met. Go to South and North America about the story of Yoruba. How then do they write the order of Oonis in this manner?

All 51 Ooni’s Of Ile-Ife in history

1ST ODUDUWA
2ND OSANGANGAN OBAMAKIN
3RD OGUN
4TH OBALUFONO GBOGBODIRIN
5TH OBALUFON ALAYEMORE
6TH ORANMIYAN
7TH AYETISE
8TH LAJAMISAN
9TH LAJODOOGUN
10TH LAFOGIDO
11TH ODIDIMODE ROGBEESIN
12TH AWOROKOLOKIN
13TH EKUN
14TH AJIMUDA
15TH GBOONIJIO
16TH OKANLAJOSIN
17TH ADEGBALU
18TH OSINKOLA
19TH OGBORUU
20TH GIESI
21ST LUWOO (FEMALE)
22ND LUMOBI
23RD AGBEDEGBEDE
24TH OJELOKUNBIRIN
25TH LAGUNJA
26TH LARUNNKA
27TH ADEMILU
28TH OMOGBOGBO
29TH AJILA-OORUN
30TH ADEJINLE
31ST OLOJO
32ND OKITI
33RD LUGBADE
34TH ARIBIWOSO
35TH OSINLADE
36TH ADAGBA
37TH OJIGIDIRI
38TH AKINMOYERO 1770-1800
39TH GBANLARE 1800-1823
40TH GBEGBAAJE 1823-1835
41ST WUNMONIJE 1835-1839
42ND ADEGUNLE ADEWELA 1839-1849
43RD DEGBINSOKUN 1849-1878
44TH ORARIGBA 1878-1880
45TH DERIN OLOGBENLA- He was a powerful warrior! 1880-1894
46TH ADELEKAN (OLUBUSE I)- 1894-1910
47TH ADEKOLA 1910-1910
48TH ADEMILUYI (AJAGUN) . 1910-1930
49TH ADESOJI ADEREMI- (1930-1980)Minister without portfolio when he ruled from 1951 to 1955. He was the first indigenous governor of Western Nigeria.
50TH OKUNADE SIJUWADE- (1980-2015)
51st Enitan Adeyeye Ogunwusi, Ojaja 11 (2015-)
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by ajalaolanr(m): 4:58pm On Mar 24, 2017
Olu317:


READ BOOKS ON QUEEN SHEEBAH OF ETHIOPIA

Clapp, Nicholas, Sheba: Through the Desert in Search of the Legendary Queen, Houghton Mifflin Company, 2001.
Hansberry, William Leo, Pillars in Ethiopian History: The William Leo Hansberry African History Notebook, ed. Joseph E. Harris, Howard University Press, 1974.
Holy Bible, American Bible Society, 1978.

Kebra Negast, trans. Miguel F. Brooks, The Red Sea Press, Inc., 1996.
Marcus, Harold G., A History of Ethiopia, University of California Press, 1994.
Munro-Hay, Stuart, Ethiopia: The Unknown Land, I.B. Tauris, 2002.

Qu'ran, trans. Muhammad Zafrulla Khan, Interlink Publishing Group-Olive Branch Press, 1997.
Shah, Tahir, In Search of King Solomon's Mines, Arcade Publishing, 2002.

Ok , I will look into those books , But if these books give credence to your argument, then they are at odds to what archaeologist have discovered in recent times.

I do hope you know that books and articles are as valuable as the on going paradigm at the time the books were written, when theres a change in paradigm so does the value or the importance of those books due to the shift at that time , Just saying

Cheers
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by ElsonMorali: 5:10pm On Mar 24, 2017
codemaniacs:


to understand yoruba, words have to be deconstructed..

Halleluyah = Aye oluwa(Ayeluwa) - Life of God/God is life.

jerusale(m) - je (eat) iru( seeds) isale(downstairs/ground) = eat seeds in the ground..

try to use logic... Anyone who understands the language knows how to interpret it... you and most people on this saying rubbish are definitely not yoruba so stop trying to complicate things you don't understand.. most of the time the answer you seek is right in front of you.. cool cool


I have heard you. Just move to one side with your yeye logic. Iranu.

I'm not Yoruba, because na you born me.

Afira angry get off my mentions.

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Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by Olu317(m): 5:11pm On Mar 24, 2017
ajalaolanr:


Ok , I will look into those books , But if these books give credence to your argument, then they are at odds to what archaeologist have discovered in recent times.

I do hope you know that books and articles are as valuable as the on going paradigm at the time the books were written, when theres a change in paradigm so does the value or the importance of those books due to the shift at that time , Just saying

Cheers
The radiocarbon test at EREDO IS FAR DIFFERENT FROM THE ACCOUNT EXISTENCE OF QUEEN SHEEBAH OF ETHIOPIA WHOM THE ARABS CALLED BILQIS / BILIKISU . SHE EVEN HAD A SON FOR SOLOMON WHOSE LINEAGE RULED ETHIOPIA FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS. HAILLE GABRIEL SALLESY CLAIMED HIS DIRECT DESCENDANT. BILIKISU OF YORUBA DIDN'T HAVE ANY CHILD ACCORDING TO ORAL ACCOUNT.
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by Olu317(m): 5:11pm On Mar 24, 2017
ajalaolanr:


Ok , I will look into those books , But if these books give credence to your argument, then they are at odds to what archaeologist have discovered in recent times.

I do hope you know that books and articles are as valuable as the on going paradigm at the time the books were written, when theres a change in paradigm so does the value or the importance of those books due to the shift at that time , Just saying

Cheers
The radiocarbon test at EREDO IS FAR DIFFERENT FROM THE ACCOUNT EXISTENCE OF QUEEN SHEEBAH OF ETHIOPIA WHOM THE ARABS CALLED BILQIS / BILIKISU . SHE EVEN HAD A SON FOR SOLOMON WHOSE LINEAGE RULED ETHIOPIA FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS. HAILLE GABRIEL SALLESY CLAIMED HIS DIRECT DESCENDANT. BILIKISU OF YORUBA DIDN'T HAVE ANY CHILD ACCORDING TO ORAL ACCOUNT.

CHEERS.
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by Kakamorufu(m): 5:15pm On Mar 24, 2017
baby124:

Yoruba is not a Yoruba word. I have forgotten the translation of seeds in Yoruba but it's not Iru. Iru is fermented Soy beans.
seed is koro, kooro.. Kooro osan is orange seed
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by ElsonMorali: 5:24pm On Mar 24, 2017
Olu317:
I agree with you on language development. If you know the history of England, you will marvel at the rate in which it developed to the current one being spoken. Despite the claim that English developed out of Germanic language. Still, they weren't Germanic stock. This show that people can come habit with other groups due to migration but doesn't make them the same stock. A clear case study is THE LATE BOB MARLEY WHOSE MOTHER WAS BLACK WOMAN BUT HIS FATHER WAS A PURE WHITE MAN. Can you now claim him to be of AFRICAN DESCENT? This is practically not true. So, be sincere with ourselves on issues as sensitive as this. I stand by my point, Yoruba are different from all other groups in West Africa and the ones who has similar religion with Yoruba is AKAN of Ghana, and even they maintain there migration out of ILE IFE. Do you know Yoruba have a DNA CONNECTION to Neanderthal which doesn't belong to Africa but EURO-ASIA? DO YOU KNOW YORUBA IS THE ONLY GROUP WITH THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE OF UNTRACEABLE TRAIT IN NIGERIA AND AFRICA WITH 4%? Yoruba people are funny because they are too spiritual to understand the things of the spirit itself. Take for instance, how can Yoruba claim the beginning of mankind? Yet the oldest human presence is approximately 13,000 years ago and the skull is not even a Yoruba ancestor. May be I Should emphasize that since 1965, it was discovered, there hasn't been any outright claim by the white scientists to claim the skull as a Yoruba ancestor. Abram was the one God promised to give all part of the world in which his children will dwell. How on earth then will Yoruba claim ILE IFE as the beginning of mankind?. Absolutely IMPOSSIBLE when 2.8 million years old HUMAN SKULL exist in East Africa...

Truth is, we can all make grand claims but unless they are proven beyond reasonable doubt, they will still be guesses, Maybe educated guesses, but guesses nonetheless.

One thing that is common to the stories of all groups worldwide is water. Lots of it. Flood, If you like. And it is possible that there existed an advanced civilization that covered the earth way before this present one.

If there was a flood that covered the whole earth at one point in time (and there are physical indications to support this theory) then the possibility of bodies being washed from one continent to another is very likely.

There are whole cities buried under the sea and I read of a pyramid larger than the one at Giza in Egypt found beneath the Atlantic ocean where the Bermuda triangle is located.

So there are indeed mysteries on this earth that we know Nothing of.

Having said that, I must admit that I haven't read anything concerning Yoruba DNA that you mentioned.

It'd be great If you can post a link here so that I can follow it.

If only our rapacious politicians can be a little bit less myopic and understand the need to research, understand and preserve the Yoruba race...
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by Flamezreal(m): 5:27pm On Mar 24, 2017
Can someone enlight me about EDE IFE i.e the language of ife. Thanks
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by ElsonMorali: 5:30pm On Mar 24, 2017
Amusaopeyemi:

Oga go to Ife and stop calling me a Liar (My friend's dad is one of the High Priest there. My Uncle was Area Commander there for a while and I used that opportunity to meet Important people and asked questions) Oduduwa was never called Ooni when he was king of Ife abeg.
It was after his Death that they started using the title Ooniririsha for kings.
PS :- I don't even know the Book you're talking about. Don't come here saying things you don't know about.

You are quite right.

Oduduwa was never referred to as Ooni, as a matter of fact, the first Ooni wasn't even his son.

All his children had dispersed to found their own kingdoms.

You're correct ma'am.

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Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by Olu317(m): 6:12pm On Mar 24, 2017
ElsonMorali:


Truth is, we can all make grand claims but unless they are proven beyond reasonable doubt, they will still be guesses, Maybe educated guesses, but guesses nonetheless.

One thing that is common to the stories of all groups worldwide is water. Lots of it. Flood, If you like. And it is possible that there existed an advanced civilization that covered the earth way before this present one.

If there was a flood that covered the whole earth at one point in time (and there are physical indications to support this theory) then the possibility of bodies being washed from one continent to another is very likely.

There are whole cities buried under the sea and I read of a pyramid larger than the one at Giza in Egypt found beneath the Atlantic ocean where the Bermuda triangle is located.

So there are indeed mysteries on this earth that we know Nothing of.

Having said that, I must admit that I haven't read anything concerning Yoruba DNA that you mentioned.

It'd be great If you can post a link here so that I can follow it.

If only our rapacious politicians can be a little bit less myopic and understand the need to research, understand and preserve the Yoruba race...



According to several studies, Neanderthal DNA exists in all Europeans at a frequency of 1-3% as well as in Asians. Alongside those studies, the claim was made that Neanderthal DNA is absent in Africa.
Recent studies revealed that this is not correct



The white researchers tried to cover it after such massive discoveries. IF this wasn't true, how come Yoruba have 4% untraceable DNA?


courtesy:rhesusnegative.net


Here is one out of two I have seen...Even with the comparison along Ibo, Edo, Fulani.
tracingafricanroots. wordpress. com/ancestrydna

Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by ElsonMorali: 6:19pm On Mar 24, 2017
Olu317:


According to several studies, Neanderthal DNA exists in all Europeans at a frequency of 1-3% as well as in Asians. Alongside those studies, the claim was made that Neanderthal DNA is absent in Africa.
Recent studies revealed that this is not correct



The white researchers tried to cover it after such massive discoveries. IF this wasn't true, how come Yoruba have 4% untraceable DNA?


courtesy:rhesusnegative.net


Here is one out of two I have seen...Even with the comparison along Ibo, Edo, Fulani.
tracingafricanroots. wordpress. com/ancetrydna

Thanks I'll check it out.
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by Olu317(m): 7:08pm On Mar 24, 2017
ElsonMorali:

Thanks I'll check it out.
You are welcome

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Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by agrovick(m): 8:19pm On Mar 24, 2017
olureignforever:


Yes, it's in the heart of oke eri before Iperin on the way to Ibadan. Oke Eri people (Men), are like the custodian of Bilikisu Sungbo. Well, according to history. We wished we cld see the place back then but it's forbidden for women. Different beautiful but scary things were said about the place.

Thanks, I'm currently close to that axis. Will find time to feed my eyes
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by baby124: 8:49pm On Mar 24, 2017
Kakamorufu:
seed is koro, kooro.. Kooro osan is orange seed
Thank you.
Re: Eredo, Ijebu - The World's Largest Man-made Structure by baby124: 9:03pm On Mar 24, 2017
Olu317:
This is evidence that proves Yoruba weren't local people. One researcher Professor Frobenius calls those Etruscan cultures which found their way into Yorubaland the ‘Atlantic culture’. He rejects Egypt as the main influencer or as the geographical origin of the Yorubas. He based his hypothesis on the fact that there are many Etruscan cultural practices amongst North Africans that are similar to those of the Yorubas and he thinks that it was easier to travel from North Africa to Yorubaland than from Egypt to Yorubaland (Frobenius 1968:186–204). Frobenius says that the Yoruba and the Atlantic culture share:

• Water storage construction systems. He emphasised that the style of houses constructed by the Yorubas was similar to those used by the Etruscans, Moroccans and Algerians whereby the
Impluvium is built in the centre of the house whilst apartments with verandas are built in a rectangular form.
• The construction of their houses. Yorubas construct houses with ridge roofs that are similar to those in North Africa.
• The colour and form of bows and arrows used by the Yorubas are similar to those in Morocco.
• The North African hand loom, unknown in the Sudan, is found amongst Yoruba woman.
• The drum shape and other articles peculiar to North Africa are not found in the Sudan, but are found in Yorubland.
• The existence of the ‘Templum ’, amongst both the Yorubas and North Africans whereby houses are built round a temple or sacred building; even in towns, houses were generally built around sacred buildings. Frobenius thinks that even the religion of Ile Ife is based on the ‘Templum ’ idea (Frobenius 1968:336).

Frobenius’s archaeological findings particularly when comparing certain articles and house-forms between North Africa and the Yorubas, are true (Lucas 1948:348), 6 but his conclusions still raise some questions. Firstly, these same Etruscan elements like the hood loom, arrow, Impluvium , Templum and others listed by Frobenius are also widely used in Egypt but Frobenius did not explain how these cultures found their way into Egypt. The presence of Etruscan elements in both Egypt and North Africa suggest that these regions (Egypt and North Africa) were earlier influenced by these elements through their contact with the Etruscans. Lucas (1948:349) says that Frobenius’s view that all monuments of the ancient Atlantic culture are placed on the coast (Frobenius 1968:336) can also be questioned because important Yoruba places like Ile Ife and Offa where these monuments (Etruscan articles) were found are about two hundred miles away from the coast (Lucas 1948:349). As a result, Lucas (1948:351) believes that the Etruscan culture did not originate in Egypt yet the culture passed through Egypt and from there to Yorubaland.

YORUBA WERE MIGRANTS TO NIGERIA..FOR YOUR PERUSAL


I am sad that you quote this, because this is actually a racist attempt at Frobenius to discount Yoruba ability. In essence he was saying that African's were not mentally capable of such art as the Ife heads because they were so well done. He said who ever must have created those heads must have come to Ife to create it and must be from the Race of the Atlantis people. We now know this race of the Atlantis people likely do not exist. Yoruba's made those heads and even researchers of today condemn Frobenius's racism.

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