hopefulLandlord:

this guy is bad

He said pure nonsense. He exposed his lack of understanding and you laugh. You must be his enemy!

enshy:

He said pure nonsense.
He exposed his lack of understanding and you laugh.
You must be his enemy!

Lol

enshy:

Isnt kill death?
If atheism is dead, then nothing to say.
However to make the atheist's folly more obvious, What could create a creator God?
Isnt an infinite loop initiated?
Guy see your question and comparison, wouldnt any wise man rate it VERY POOR?

Now, you know nothing about LOOP. - 1st point.....

1). The universe couldn't have come from nothing,we agree.
2). God must have created the universe - good.

Me: who created that god since you believe and agree 101% something could never come from nothing ........ (Refer back to eqn 1)

otemdomino:
Who is a fool? Do you use such foul word even when fictitious jesus have told you not to? May Yahweh be punished the more in his spiritual cage for this statement of yours.

You happen to be the least knowledgeable here!
Please move to sports asap!!

enshy:

He said pure nonsense.
He exposed his lack of understanding and you laugh.
You must be his enemy!

Mr man, am still with you. Don't logout yet without responding maturely

KingEbukasBlog:

If you agree that it is illogical absurd idiotic to even surmise that something can come out of from nothing , then the logical conclusion is that God - the creator of our finite universe - has no beginning , is uncaused , has always been , necessarily existing . How many times are you going to be spoon fed with this very simple description of God ? How many times ?

this is Gish gallop

how did you LOGICALLY move from "something" created the universe to that creator has NO BEGINNING?

where did that "logical conclusion" come from

watching too many WLC videos I see

enshy:

You happen to be the least knowledgeable here!
Please move to sports asap!!

You see your life online.?
When i mentioned ya moniker on a thread about Noah's Ark, you gave a silly excuse clinging to INSULT.

You couldn't respond, here you are dishing out words....

felixomor:


Of course,
Their logic thinks the best way to halt an argument is to feign ignorance of definitions.....

Some of them rewrite their dictionary every week....
Even definition of atheism is ever changing just to save their dead arguments....

I dey tell you bro . An atheist who wants the definition of God ? Then why he is an aTHEIST if he does not know who God is ? I mean you have to understand what you are up against - this is just basic stuff .

Too much display of idiocy

adepeter26:

Now, you know nothing about LOOP. - 1st point.....

1). The universe couldn't have come from nothing,we agree.
2). God must have created the universe - good.

Me: who created that god since you believe and agree 101% something could never come from nothing ........ (Refer back to eqn 1)

Thats where your folly cant be cured.
Nothing exists before God...Thats God!
He is Author of All, He is the beginning and ending.
He is eternal, without end!
He has neither beginning of days nor end of it!
My God is All in All!

felixomor:


If i ask u to show me where definition of Christianity change now,

U will start jumping like antelope,

So no need....

No be Christians say "Christianity isn't a religion?" But a lifestyle?

I'm not a troll like you who dodges questions & lay baseless claims....

KingEbukasBlog:


I dey tell you bro . An atheist who wants the definition of God ? Then why he is an aTHEIST if he does not know who God is ? I mean you have to understand what you are up against - this is just basic stuff .

Too much display of idiocy

Lol
I didnt even think about that " A-THEIST" from "A-THEOS"
And "Theos" means God....

Yet he wants definition of God.....

Big jesters of a bunch.....

adepeter26:

You see your life online.?
When i mentioned ya moniker on a thread about Noah's Ark, you gave a silly excuse clinging to INSULT.

You couldn't respond, here you are dishing out words....

At times I just answer fools according to their folly or keep mute!
I dont cast pearls before swine.

enshy:

Thats where your folly cant be cured.
Nothing exists before God...Thats God!
He is Author of All, He is the beginning and ending.
He is eternal, without end!
He has neither beginning of days nor end of it!
My God is All in All!

You are still special pleading......

Mr hopefulLandlord, read this my brother comment o-o and see how intelligent he sounds....

Something can't come from nothing.

But god came from nothing?

adepeter26:

No be Christians say "Christianity isn't a religion?" But a lifestyle?

I'm not a troll like you who dodges questions & lay baseless claims....

So thats how the "definition" changed abi?
because some people said its a lifestyle, the "definition changed" ba?


Hmmmmmm, chai

adepeter26:

You are still special pleading......

Mr hopefulLandlord, read this my brother comment o-o and see how intelligent he sounds....

Something can't come from nothing.

But god came from nothing?

I doubt these guys even know what special pleading means

that explains why they're denying committing the fallacy

enshy:

At times I just answer fools according to their folly or keep mute!
I dont cast pearls before swine.

This is simple English and not biblical verses that you claim to said atheist "QUOTE OUT OF CONTEXT"....

This isn't a figure of speech also that you claim bullsh!t

This is SIMPLE ENGLISH.

You: " something can't come from nothing"
You: "but God came from nothing"

How does it sound? Am not a primary 2 kid enshy

felixomor:


So thats how the "definition" changed abi?
because some people said its a lifestyle, the "definition changed" ba?


Hmmmmmm, chai

Now, visit your dictionary, and paste it definition as regards Christianity since you claimed ITS original definition wasn't change

hopefulLandlord:


this is Gish gallop

how did you LOGICALLY move from "something" created the universe to that creator has NO BEGINNING?

This is unbelievable !

Haven't you learnt anything from the myriad of discourses you've had with us ?

1.Infinite regress of causes is impossible

2.Something can't come from nothing

3. Therefore , there is an uncaused cause - one having no beginning , the source of everything that exists .

Even from the principle of sufficient reason , we can understand that God is completely self-sufficient, having within Himself the sufficient reason for His own existence . God alone understands why He exists and why He has to exist . Aseity answers the question , though not completely , 'why does God exist' ?

adepeter26:

Now, visit your dictionary, and paste it definition as regards Christianity since you claimed ITS original definition wasn't change

Hehehehehehehehe

adepeter26:

Now, visit your dictionary to define Christianity.

Rest abeg.
I have already witnessed too much rabbiting for today...
From Your colleague...

And take note, definition of Christianity never changes..

adepeter26:

You are still special pleading......

Mr hopefulLandlord, read this my brother comment o-o and see how intelligent he sounds....

Something can't come from nothing.

But god came from nothing?

You will need to check up who God is.
You dont make points, you make arguments!
You have no answers, you have questions!
You thrive only in criticisms...

felixomor:


Lol
I didnt even think about that " A-THEIST" from "A-THEOS"
And "Theos" means God....

Yet he wants definition of God.....

Big jesters of a bunch.....

Exactly !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KingEbukasBlog:


This is unbelievable !

yes, your Gish gallop is unbelievable

Haven't you learnt anything from the myriad of discourses you've had with us ?

I've learnt that you guys are full of fallacies

1.Infinite regress of causes is impossible

asking who created "god" doesn't automatically lead to infinite regress

I could claim "something" created the entity that created the universe and give that "something" the properties you're defining as "god"; my theory would be as valid as yours

Otemanuduno's theory is an example

that you can't envisage something moving past the creator of the universe doesn't make any theory moving one step further an " infinite regress"

Finally, there is nothing in the argument to rule out the existence of multiple first causes. This can be seen by realizing that for any directed acyclic graph which represents causation in a set of events or entities, the first cause is any vertex that has zero incoming edges. This means that the argument can just as well be used to argue for polytheism . so its really just guesses and pleadings

2.Something can't come from nothing

3. Therefore , there is an uncaused cause - one having no beginning , the source of everything that exists .

Even from the principle of sufficient reason , we can understand that God is completely self-sufficient, having within Himself the sufficient reason for His own existence . God alone understands why He exists and why He has to exist . Aseity answers the question , though not completely , 'why does God exist' ?

my reply above renders the rest of your post virtually invalid

adepeter26:

This is simple English and not biblical verses that you claim to said atheist "QUOTE OUT OF CONTEXT"....

This isn't a figure of speech also that you claim bullsh!t

This is SIMPLE ENGLISH.

You: " something can't come from nothing"
You: "but God came from nothing"

How does it sound? Am not a primary 2 kid enshy

With your level of reasoning, a primary 2 pupil does better.
I never used those statements up there...Hope this isnt a dream?
God is self-sufficient and he is the uncaused cause of All.
God created All things and He has always been.
You and I were created by a God who is subject to nothing..He therefore couldnt have been caused.

felixomor:


Rest abeg.
I have already witnessed too much rabbiting for today...
From Your colleague...

And take note, definition of Christianity never changes..

You see... You further attest to be a troll.....

You claimed I lied about change in definition about Christianity, i gave you my facts.

Now you
Bring out dictionary definition of Christianity... You are running.....

We aint on same level bro. Tell me my wrongs, I accept. I tell you ya flaws or lies, you claim to be intelligent and smart

enshy:

You will need to check up who God is.
You dont make points, you make arguments!
You have no answers, you have questions!
You thrive only in criticisms...

I totally agree with you bro . Atheists thrive in criticism . One does not really need a basis for criticism . Just criticize and then ridicule - that's all they do . Its a sure way of protecting their beliefs .

And its actually funny when they engage in all these but still won't provide answers . I mean if they are so passionately captious about the existence of God , then they should at least prove or provide explanations that irrefragablely confutes our position as theists .

enshy:

You will need to check up who God is.
You dont make points, you make arguments!
You have no answers, you have questions!
You thrive only in criticisms...

Then you STFU next time.....

At this junction, no Fvcking NL CHRISTIANS should claim BB theory is flawed since God came from nothing as well

adepeter26:

You see... You further attest to be a troll.....

You claimed I lied about change in definition about Christianity, i gave you my facts.

Now you
Bring out dictionary definition of Christianity... You are running.....

We aint on same level bro. Tell me my wrongs, I accept. I tell you ya flaws or lies, you claim to be intelligent and smart

Please if i bring out dictionary to define Christianity,

Will u show how the definition has changed?

Yes or No?
Pls answer straight...

enshy:

With your level of reasoning, a primary 2 pupil does better.
I never used those statements up there...Hope this isnt a dream?
God is self-sufficient and he is the uncaused cause of All.
God created All things and He has always been.
You and I were created by a God who is subject to nothing..He therefore couldnt have been caused.

When will you get common sense that is indeed not common?

You said the OP killed atheism cos going by his post, it's illogical and absurd for something to originated from nothing.....


You confirmed to his post that he was right....

Now we say ok, we agree.

But who created the creator?...

Is your wenickes area functioning correctly

hopefulLandlord:



I could claim "something" created the entity that created the universe and give that "something" the properties you're defining as "god"; my theory would be as valid as yours

Otemanuduno's theory is an example

that you can't envisage something moving past the creator of the universe doesn't make any theory moving one step further an " infinite regress"

Another shot in the foot . You have a wont for disproving your own argument .

If we can get past the universe's creator but not leading to infinite regress of causes , then it is logical to conclude that there is indubitably an ULTIMATE or SUPREME Being which is obviously eternal .

This is so simple .

How are you not getting this ?

How is someone so blind to the foolishness of atheism ?

Until God come from something,,,,, the BIG BANG theory is correct going by the THEIST LOGIC

felixomor:


Please if i bring out dictionary to define Christianity,

Will u show how the definition has changed?

Yes or No?
Pls answer straight...

Yes