LordAdam16:


You are already over your head.

The Khoisan people are not light-skinned. They are predominantly black. Don't fool yourself. The KhoiSan is a unifying term for two groups, the Khoi and the San. Read about them here -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khoisan.

Sub-Saharan people are different from North African people. Stop cherry picking pictures that suit your narrative and leave the ones that don't.

Look that a painting on King Seti's tomb:

Can you note the gradation in skin color?

-Lord

For the 3rd time, Ancient egypt were later conquered by the greeks, romans, and arabs. Why do you keep presenting images as if we don't know that they were there? The point is, they came after they already accomplished everything Ancient Egypt is known for.

TheStronghold:

Yes, I can. Because that's science and genetics. Genetically, Africans are a spectrum, and the progenitors of all races of this planet. That's not an opinion, it is scientific fact. Today, the african has the largest genetic variation of any other people on the planet. Not only that, scientific research has proven that Africans are more genetically diverse than the rest of the world combined. That is also a scientific fact. I study science, and everyone who takes any genetics, or biology class learns this.

You can read up on it here: https://www.geneticliteracyproject.org/2015/06/01/does-africas-rich-genetic-diversity-explain-dominance-of-elite-african-runners/


And there we have it, you refuse to see the truth. Clearly you are a white guy, a mixed guy, or some extremely self hating african. Regardless, I can't entertain this any further.

Now I know your skull is empty.

My very first post mentions that everyone on the planet has a black ancestor. If you want to get off on that tangent, then there is no such thing as a race. Deep down, we are all Africans. If that is the case, then where is the African Supremacy coming from?

Because you cannot be superior to yourself.

Black skin tone is a spectrum in the same way white skin tone is a spectrum. This is science, genetics and fact. Compare the skins of Asians and Western Europeans, are they the same?

Compare the skin tone of Fulanis and Asantis are they the same?

Yet you want to call Egypt wholly black, because they have some black. Have you seen the Persians?

You have a mighty inferiority complex trying to attach to anything and everything.

From African supremacy of Europe to African supremacy of Ancient Egypt. You people need urgent psychiatric attention.

So because Queen Tiye is completely black, it means all the ancient Egyptians were black. Can you hear yourself. And when I bring proof of Ramses a fair-skinned Egyptian Pharoah fighting with dark-skinned Egyptian soldiers against Nubian people who are a mix of fair and dark skin people, you say it's just one picture.

I bet they were edited too by the Europeans.

-Lord

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LordAdam16:


You are already over your head.

The Khoisan people are not light-skinned. They are predominantly black. Don't fool yourself. The KhoiSan is a unifying term for two groups, the Khoi and the San. Read about them here -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khoisan.

Sub-Saharan people are different from North African people. Stop cherry picking pictures that suit your narrative and leave the ones that don't.

Look that a painting on King Seti's tomb:

Can you note the gradation in skin color?

-Lord

No you get it twisted. that painting on King Seti's tomb is depicting (from left): four Libyans, a Nubian, an Asiatic, and an Egyptian.

LordAdam16:




My very first post mentions that everyone on the planet has a black ancestor. If you want to get off on that tangent, then there is no such thing as a race. Deep down, we are all Africans. If that is the case, then where is the African Supremacy coming from?


-Lord

I know you're trolling. Some i'm just going to stop now.

Braden2:
These are all awesome achievement by the Egyptians ,whether or not they were blacks or Arabs. but you know what,this achievements are not associated with blacks in our minds . black image and destiny was set in stone by the Atlantic slavery and colonialism. It's very difficult to change the preconceived notion of black as inferior no matter what you do now ,. its too late. all i'm asking is to forget the past and look to the future. build an organized society and move on. creating this silly black supremacist propaganda will do no good towards unity and progress of the human race.

I agree with everything you say. However the structures there were built by blacks. That much has already been proving. But again, I agree that we move forward, but I disagree that black supremacy wont do no good in uniting people. White supremacy united all of Europe in the scramble for Africa because they all believed they are superior and should come and enslave the continent. After centuries of war in Europe, to be able to come together to enslave a continent is nothing but unity.

TheStronghold:


For the 3rd time, Ancient egypt were later conquered by the greeks, romans, and arabs. Why do you keep presenting images as if we don't know that they were there? The point is, they came after they already accomplished everything Ancient Egypt is known for.

Who was disputing that in the first place?

It's either you can't read or you have comprehension disorder or both.

The image is to prove that Ancient Egyptians were a mixed people. Something you people think is Western propaganda. Okay, I bet Ramses ruled after Ancient Egypt had been conquered, that's why he is light-skinned.

Yeye dey smell!

Very soon, you guys would say African Supremacists did everything in India. Na small small e dey start. Because it first started with Egypt, now you guys have moved to Europe. Next stop is Asia. I'm patiently waiting.

Since you guys can't develop yourselves, you guys now want to corner all former achievements as your own.

Just imagine how petty that is.

It's not only Black Africans ruled Europe. Say Aliens are Black Africans who seeded the Earth with black Africans like themselves 7000 years ago. Then bring cave paintings of discs to prove it.

All of you need to resign to a mental asylum.

-Lord

LordAdam16:


You are already over your head.

The Khoisan people are not light-skinned. They are predominantly black. Don't fool yourself. The KhoiSan is a unifying term for two groups, the Khoi and the San. Read about them here -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khoisan.

Sub-Saharan people are different from North African people. Stop cherry picking pictures that suit your narrative and leave the ones that don't.

Look that a painting on King Seti's tomb:

Can you note the gradation in skin color?

-Lord

Do you say Khoisan are not light skinned people?

I guess the pics below say different

slurryeye:


Do you say Khoisan are not light skinned people?

I guess the pics below say different

Ignore him, he has a problem. He'll probably say its because white people are in south africa. All of these unscientific, baseless claims that have no truth to them.

Braden2:
These are all awesome achievement by the Egyptians ,whether or not they were blacks or Arabs. but you know what,this achievements are not associated with blacks in our minds . black image and destiny was set in stone by the Atlantic slavery and colonialism. It's very difficult to change the preconceived notion of black as inferior no matter what you do now ,. its too late. all i'm asking is to forget the past and look to the future. build an organized society and move on. creating this silly black supremacist propaganda will do no good towards unity and progress of the human race.

It is you who is sabotaging the black race, just look at the picture of the albinos skinned egyptians that you posted

You must be a racist arab or caucasian

Horus:


No you get it twisted. that painting on King Seti's tomb is depicting (from left): four Libyans, a Nubian, an Asiatic, and an Egyptian.

Really?

And the Libyans and Egyptians look black to you like the Nubian abi?

Or did Seti too rule after the Europeans conquered Egypt?

And by the way, if we had Asian people in ancient Egypt, why is it so hard to believe that there were black people in Europe, South America, and Asia before the Moors invaded Portugal and Spain.

You see how you guys keep digging holes for yourselves.

-Lord

Braden2:
Alright alright .let's give it a rest .black people are the most powerful,strongest and intelligent in the world. Africa had the greatest civilzation .Africa is a developed first world continent. dark skin is the one and only beautiful skin color. slavery is just a myth

We see your sarcasm bro.....but that doesn't take a way the fact that blacks ruled Iberia, and there were great black civilization in pre-colonial Africa

slurryeye:


Do you say Khoisan are not light skinned people?

I guess the pics below say different

Would you call those people you are showing white people? Are they not black people?

The person holding that baby is the person white or black? Or in Nigeria here, you haven't seen lighter-skinned babies become darker later?

Go to this page -- http://blackgirllonghair.com/2015/08/10-beautiful-images-of-the-san-people-of-southern-africa-from-whom-all-modern-humans-descended/, do the predominant people in those pictures look white to you?

[img=https://i0.wp.com/blackgirllonghair.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/ef8dc92b5dd01eee1461c46ea960833f.jpg?resize=500%2C539][/img]

Abi you guys are now looking for anything that is closer to white in Africa and want to praise it as revolutionary. Talk about inferiority complex.

-Lord

LordAdam16:


Really?

And the Libyans and Egyptians look black to you like the Nubian abi?

Or did Seti too rule after the Europeans conquered Egypt?

And by the way, if we had Asian people in ancient Egypt, why is it so hard to believe that there were black people in Europe, South America, and Asia before the Moors invaded Portugal and Spain.

You see how you guys keep digging holes for yourselves.

-Lord

I simply stated a fact. the picture represent the races that the egyptian knew about at that time, for pedagogical purpose for themselve but it is not a representation of the population living in egypt. Do your research

TheStronghold:


I agree with everything you say. However the structures there were built by blacks. That much has already been proving. But again, I agree that we move forward, but I disagree that black supremacy wont do no good in uniting people. White supremacy united all of Europe in the scramble for Africa because they all believed they are superior and should come and enslave the continent. After centuries of war in Europe, to be able to come together to enslave a continent is nothing but unity.

And what did White supremacy achieve in the end? A world where we are all trying to get back to the liberal non-racial societies of pre-17th century human civilization.

Did Europe not still fight two far deadlier world wars at the height of White Supremacy?

Racism is a scourge. Black racism is exactly the same as White racism.

-Lord

Horus:


I simply stated a fact. the picture represent the races that the egyptian knew about at that time, for pedagogical purpose for themselve but it is not a representation of the population living in egypt. Do your research

Oga, how did the ancient Egyptians know the color and physical attributes of an Asian if they did not see one?

Abi, they had 4G then with DSLR camera and painted on a Surface Tablet?

The more you try to appear intelligent, the more silly your replies become.

-Lord

LordAdam16:


And what did White supremacy achieve in the end? A world where we are all trying to get back to the liberal non-racial societies of pre-17th century human civilization.

Did Europe not still fight two far deadlier world wars at the height of White Supremacy?

Racism is a scourge. Black racism is exactly the same as White racism.

-Lord

Yes sir, stop trying to sound utopian!, stop trying to derail the thread.Maintain your stance, maintain the initial high level ignorance you started the thread with.

There is nothing worst than a man that is double minded. All that inconsistent trash you were spilling at the genesis of this thread. Kindly maintain it.

Most of the folks on this thread have no knowledge of history. So you banked on that and started mumbling up incoherent facts.

Like i said stick to your "own version of history".

Thanks

LordAdam16:


Would you call those people you are showing white people? Are they not black people?

The person holding that baby is the person white or black? Or in Nigeria here, you haven't seen lighter-skinned babies become darker later?

Go to this page -- http://blackgirllonghair.com/2015/08/10-beautiful-images-of-the-san-people-of-southern-africa-from-whom-all-modern-humans-descended/, do the predominant people in those pictures look white to you?

[img=https://i0.wp.com/blackgirllonghair.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/ef8dc92b5dd01eee1461c46ea960833f.jpg?resize=500%2C539][/img]

Abi you guys are now looking for anything that is closer to white in Africa and want to praise it as revolutionary. Talk about inferiority complex.

-Lord

I never said the Khoisan are white people, all I said was there were indigenous African people like the Khoisans that have lighter skin complexion
The argument started when you said ancient Egyptian are mixed race and not real Africans because of their skin tone, then I showed you indigenous Africans with light skin tone. Nobody is telling you they want something close to white

LordAdam16:


Oga, how did the ancient Egyptians know the color and physical attributes of an Asian if they did not see one?

Abi, they had 4G then with DSLR camera and painted on a Surface Tablet?

The more you try to appear intelligent, the more silly your replies become.

-Lord

Who said they did not see one? they knew about other races, and this is why they painted them for pedagogical purpose for themselve


Below are (from left to right): a Libyan, a Nubian, an Asiatic, and an Egyptian.
The Libyan and the Asiatic are foreigner,NOT Egyptians

slurryeye:


I never said the Khoisan are white people, all I said was there were indigenous African people like the Khoisans that have lighter skin complexion
The argument started when you said ancient Egyptian are mixed race and not real Africans because of their skin tone, then I showed you indigenous Africans with light skin tone. Nobody is telling you they want something close to white

The guy is confused.

donniemc:


Yes sir, stop trying to sound utopian!, stop trying to derail the thread.Maintain your stance, maintain the initial high level ignorance you started the thread with.

There is nothing worst than a man that is double minded. All that inconsistent trash you were spilling at the genesis of this thread. Kindly maintain it.

Most of the folks on this thread have no knowledge of history. So you banked on that and started mumbling up incoherent facts.

Like i said stick to your "own version of history".

Thanks

Your head dey pain you.

If you can't point out the incoherent facts, better remain in your cocoon.

Can't you see all them scampering for safety now that their lies have been exposed. Or is Spain and Portugal the only countries in Europe.

They said Black Africans brought development to Europe. Then I showed that Europeans already conquered the so-called Moors before the Moors were again conquered by the Arabs before the Moors marched on Spain and Portugal with the help of Arabs.

So how can you bring development to people who conquered you first?

Even TheStrongHold could not lie anymore and showed that the Greeks, Romans, and Arabs conquered the dominant North African kingdoms hundreds of years before the Moors marched on Spain and Portugal.

If you are daft, don't try to pass it off as intelligence. History is available for everyone to read.

-Lord

This is beyond awesome. Great work guy, well detailed. I have never been on a thread for 30+ mins . wow

Very informative thread.

It's saddening there are some white supremacists in here trying to derail the conversation.

slurryeye:


I never said the Khoisan are white people, all I said was there were indigenous African people like the Khoisans that have lighter skin complexion
The argument started when you said ancient Egyptian are mixed race and not real Africans because of their skin tone, then I showed you indigenous Africans with light skin tone. Nobody is telling you they want something close to white

And oga, what I'm saying is that do the majority of those people have lighter skin tones? They are like the Igbos. And they're predominantly black.

They are nothing like the Egyptians. The Ancient Egyptians are mixed, because they had completely black Egyptians that could pass as sub-Saharan black people, as well as very light-skinned people that could pass as Arabs. That's the definition of a mixed race.

The KhoiSan people are not mixed, none of them can pass as light-skinned Arabs. They're predominantly black.

In all of Sub-Sahara Africa, you can only identify the KhoiSan and Igbos as predominantly black people with a decent percentage of their people having lighter skin tones. In North Africa, the majority of peoples there are mixed race. From the ancient Libyans to the ancient Nubians. The Ancient Nubian people had more dark people in their population than the Libyans for example, but it doesn't make them black Africans. They're mixed. And they're nothing like sub-Saharan Black Africans.

I showed you a painting of Egyptians depicting themselves and Nubians as mixed people. You conveniently ignored that one.

-Lord

Horus:


Who said they did not see one? they knew about other races, and this is why they painted them for pedagogical purpose for themselve


Below are (from left to right): a Libyan, a Nubian, an Asiatic, and an Egyptian.
The Libyan and the Asiatic are foreigner,NOT Egyptians

Really, so they knew about other races and saw them. But black Africans did not migrate to the civilizations of other races before the Moors conquered Spain and Portugal.

And it is mathematically impossible that some Asians stayed in ancient Egypt abi?

Your own matter ehn need laying of hands.

-Lord

I believe the op is more intelligent than you if not you will have show or give us concrete evidence or proof against the op. Why can't you do your own research about this interesting Africa history and prove the op wrong.

LordAdam16:


Your head dey pain you.

If you can't point out the incoherent facts, better remain in your cocoon.

Can't you see all them scampering for safety now that their lies have been exposed. Or is Spain and Portugal the only countries in Europe.

They said Black Africans brought development to Europe. Then I showed that Europeans already conquered the so-called Moors before the Moors were again conquered by the Arabs before the Moors marched on Spain and Portugal with the help of Arabs.

So how can you bring development to people who conquered you first?

Even TheStrongHold could not lie anymore and showed that the Greeks, Romans, and Arabs conquered the dominant North African kingdoms hundreds of years before the Moors marched on Spain and Portugal.

If you are daft, don't try to pass it off as intelligence. History is available for everyone to read.

-Lord

LordAdam16:


Your head dey pain you.

If you can't point out the incoherent facts, better remain in your cocoon.

Can't you see all them scampering for safety now that their lies have been exposed. Or is Spain and Portugal the only countries in Europe.

They said Black Africans brought development to Europe. Then I showed that Europeans already conquered the so-called Moors before the Moors were again conquered by the Arabs before the Moors marched on Spain and Portugal with the help of Arabs.

So how can you bring development to people who conquered you first?.



Even TheStrongHold could not lie anymore and showed that the Greeks, Romans, and Arabs conquered the dominant North African kingdoms hundreds of years before the Moors marched on Spain and Portugal.

If you are daft, don't try to pass it off as intelligence. History is available for everyone to read.


-Lord

Yes sir,

you don't start any conversation with "Your head dey pain you". Its very barbaric and uncultured. Kindly take note for next time.

Yes you are right!, very right they are all "scampering for safety". Like i said earlier most Nigerian don't know History. Not our fault though.You can easily blame that on the government or Waec.

No Sir,
Lets no start with the Moors. Lets start from earlier Civilizations. Indus valley civilization --> Sumeria --> Egypt e.t.c Lets be intellectually orderly about this. Am an android programmer by profession so obviously i loathe disorderliness.

Also,
for the sake of orderliness kindly attach historical dates.For instance i can't understand anything you wrote here

"showed that the Greeks, Romans, and Arabs conquered the dominant North African kingdoms hundreds of years before the Moors marched on Spain and Portugal"

The facts are skewed and the historical timeline again is not coherent. Kindly spare my ignorance and explain in "detail" again.

Thanks

LordAdam16:


Oga there is a sharp difference between achievement and supremacy.

Achievement is we did something. Supremacy is we are better than others.

Of course sub-Saharan Africans had beautiful art which is an achievement. But so did every other people around the world.

Supremacy is that we are better than others, and if that can be true for any race, it sure as hell is not black Africans. As individuals, black Africans are brilliant and rose to the pinnacle of several societies at different points in history. As a group, black supremacy is hogwash.

Let Africa develop, while we celebrate our achievements. Not start a stupid tirade called African Supremacy that is etched in lies.

Imagine these people saying China did not have an ancient civilization that was better than Bini and Ife. They tell obvious lies. That is how Hitler and Nazi Germany started. These people are racists. They are trying to start a black brand of KKK.

-Lord

Nobody ever mentioned here that we are better than others neither the OP nor his supporters. All we are concluding from this enlightenment is that Africa at least is not completely worthless.
Many of us have been made to believe that absolutely nothing can be credited to the black race and we have been slaves and inferior people from the beginning of the world which is not true.

There is nothing like beliefs of supremacy or we being better than anyone here. So take a chill!

LordAdam16:


Really, so they knew about other races and saw them. But black Africans did not migrate to the civilizations of other races before the Moors conquered Spain and Portugal.

And it is mathematically impossible that some Asians stayed in ancient Egypt abi?

Your own matter ehn need laying of hands.

-Lord

Yes they knew about other races and saw them but other races were not Egytians.

African101:
I believe the op is more intelligent than you if not you will have show or give us concrete evidence or proof against the op. Why can't you do your own research about this interesting Africa history and prove the op wrong.

Oga.

All evidence point to Black Africans living in Europe before the Moors attacked Spain and Portugal.

So the OP is clearly wrong that Black Africans ruled Europe starting from the Moors. Even the Moors ruled only Spain and Portugal. They did not rule the whole Europe.

If you read my posts you'd know why I'm against the tone of the OP. Paste facts as facts. Don't misrepresent them.

Did Black Africans live in Europe as free men prior to Moors? Yes.
Did they attain positions of authority as free men? Yes.
Did they rule Europe as the OP claims? No.

Black Africans that leave Africa elsewhere usually excel even to this day. It doesn't mean black Africans in the diaspora are ruling over there.

This is common sense and I've pasted multiple facts over time.

The issue is not about the achievements but about African Supremacy. These supremacists are using the right tool for the wrong purpose. There is no such thing as African Supremacy. Kapish!

-Lord

LordAdam16:


What are you yapping on about embracing history.

You are telling obvious lies and covering it up with it's all history.

Tell complete history. The Europeans had ancient civilizations better than anything in sub-Saharan Africa. Then Europe slipped into the Dark Ages.

During this time, Mohammed was born, he and his followers invaded and colonized Africa from the fair-skinned North Africans to the dark-skinned West Africans. It is these colonized Muslim Black Africans with the help of Arabs that conquered Spain and Portugal (not the entire Europe as you have been saying on this thread).

You talk about celebrating our culture, is Arabic naming, culture, and religion core African culture? Is Zayed an African Name? Is Musa an African name?

Present day Asia was already developing before they started their cultural awakening. Look at Japan and India. China too.

You called my facts that sub-Saharan Africa had no civilization that rivaled the greats in other continent lies. Provide facts to disprove you say no. Then you use your lies to say there is such a thing as African supremacy. And want all Africans to accept it as fact because you want us to embrace and develop.

So, Lagos that has been developing before you opened this thread accepted African Supremacy before the development started abi?

You are really sick in the head.

Europeans personalized christianity as their religion and heritage and with Christianity and a new christian identity, they conquered many parts of the world. Now, tell me, did Christianity originate on European soil? Is it not a religion that originated from the middle-east?

Why are Europeans not blamed or castigated for adopting and promoting an identity from a religion which originated in the middle east but when it comes to black africans like the moorish for example, you castigate the Africans for fluorishing with a religion from the middle east?

Peter, John, Stephen , Elizabeth, Mary and all these christian name adopted and propagated by the Europeans, are they names with European origin? Hell no they aren't.

Nowenuse:


Europeans personalized christianity as their religion and heritage and with Christianity and a new christian identity, they conquered many parts of the world. Now, tell me, did Christianity originate on European soil? Is it not a religion that originated from the middle-east?

Why are Europeans not blamed or castigated for adopting and promoting an identity from a religion which originated in the middle east but when it comes to black africans like the moorish for example, you castigate the Africans for fluorishing with a religion from the middle east?

Peter, John, Stephen , Elizabeth, Mary and all these christian name adopted and propagated by the Europeans, are they names with European origin? Hell no they aren't.

Like i said earlier, the boy is very confused and ignorant. Am just chilling for him.