₦airaland Forum

jarkbauer:
The problem in Power sector is enormous. I dont deceive myself.. stable light in Nigeria is a mirage. More than 70% of people with prepaid meters bypass it. Some Nigeria dont like to pay for power.

BIG LIE! The fine for bypassing is N50,000 and the Discos invite the Police to arrest a perpetrator if they want to deal with you. Only very few people bypass and it must be done with the connivance of a DISCO staff like hotel owners. Those who bypass are those without prepaid meters.
You realise that if without meter you spend N5k a month with meter your expenditure will reduce to N3k

Werehkpe:
How can they reject 10,200MW when Nigeria as a country generates barely 5000MW?

Its like I am not underSTOOD Ooooooo

Dont mind them both Genko & Disco are lying in conjunction with FG

Ovamboland:
It's the responsibility of Discos to lay power cables and install meters in such a way that bypassing is next to impossible.

They just inherited a broken cobweb cable system and did nothing to improve it.

Inherited? How?
Discos are businesses. The went in with their eyes open. They chose the jurisdiction they wanted
Did you choose the disco that is serving you?
How much have they invested
They are crooks

BlowBack:
The problem is the lack of prepaid meters and the inept fashola who encourages this scam by the DISCOs

The problem is the discos
They hate prepaid metres
I have never heard of anyone whose bill went up after being liberated from estimated bill to prepaid metering
We are told that normally a monopoly either determines price or quantity, but not both
Under estimated bills, discos determine both quantity and price. Bills will still if people don't enjoy light
Discos know their revenue will fall should everybody be metered
They want sky-high tariff approved by government before prepaid metres go round

Fashola can speak for himself; he is a SAN
But I think the discos are TOO powerful and have become arrogant - Fashola cannot control them
Although I believe that Fashola want tariff that will kill most small people

seguno2:
Propaganda stories from APC.
Change that has been changed since 2015 AD.

We are living with the scam called power sector privatisation by your hero of corruption - Jonathan
Who owns the discos - are they not PDP people

Were I Buhari, I would reverse the privatisation- let heaven fall - the discos are even blackmailing government

ExInferis:
So if I'm in Benin i have the option of "subscribing" with Yola Disco?

YES THAT IS WHAT HAPPEN IN ADVANCE COUNTRY LIKE UK,
YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR DISCO AT WILL !!!!
IT GIVES HEALTH COMPETITION!!!

BetaThings:
The problem is the discos
They hate prepaid metres
I have never heard of anyone whose bill went up after being liberated from estimated bill to prepaid metering
We are told that normally a monopoly either determines price or quantity, but not both
Under estimated bills, discos determine both quantity and price. Bills will still if people don't enjoy light
Discos know their revenue will fall should everybody be metered
They want sky-high tariff approved by government before prepaid metres go round

Fashola can speak for himself; he is a SAN
But I think the discos are TOO powerful and have become arrogant - Fashola cannot control them
Although I believe that Fashola want tariff that will kill most small people

The logic of granting seperate concessions to GENCOs, TRANSCOs and DISCOs was to eliminate monopoly and abuse. But as things stand out now the DISCOs are the ones corrupting the whole system.

While the GENCOs are plagued by lack of spare parts, funds and gas or lowering water levels, the TRANSCOs are also suffering from an old outdated grid system that will require huge investments. But what are the constraints facing the DISCOs? They hardly maintain transformers or power line cables and will quickly pass the buck to the affected community by demanding money is contributed.

The seemingly lack of pre-paid meters and a very weak regulatory system in place is what the DISCOs are using to extort Nigerians.

I think it is high time they consider collapsing the tri-chotonomy in place of regional or state power companies.

The DISCOs dont invest in power generation or transmission and are just out to extort.

Lanretoye:
where did they get the load from,i tot we were gegenerating less than 3000megawatts...moreover consumers are supposed to subscribe to any disco they wish so there will be competition among discos.

The DisCos were allocated a total of 75,021mw within the period but they accepted 65,729mw

In a month, 3,000 x 30 will give 90,000MW

RALPHOW:
YES THAT IS WHAT HAPPEN IN ADVANCE COUNTRY LIKE UK,
YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR DISCO AT WILL !!!!
IT GIVES HEALTH COMPETITION!!!

Unfortunately this isn't the UK.

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BlowBack:
In my area you can't bypass the meter as it is rigged on the electric pole.

The disco also carried out routine checks an if you are caught bypassing (if that is even possible) you will be slammed with a hefty fine.

Bypassing the prepaid meter is not easy and definitely not worth it

What does it mean to bypass the meter?

thecommunist:
i did not say electricity is/was stored, i said they need to get confirmation of acceptance from DISCOS before GENCOS will go ahead to generate, even if they generate and no DISCOS will accept at that time, they will simply shut down part or all of their generating plant.

their is a contract in place before the privatization of Nepa that is taking care of that issue already and generation is never stopped it is continuous. that is where the percentage sharing comes into play which takes care of the load each disco get. the percenatge take care of the capacity of the discos

The report is incorrect and I believe that the OP need to reconfirm the figures and measure from the source. There is no country in Africa that generates 75,000MW not to even suggest that distributors will reject 10,000MW! I will rather assume that the original report must have been about 7,500MW with rejection of 1,000MW which will still be ludicrous as we don't generate up to this yet. Or more believably, I'd assume the OP meant 75,000MWh rather than 75,000MW which is a completely different proposition and lot more believable.

This said, I will comment that the supposed privatisation of the unbundled power companies by the GEJ administration was wrong and that the beneficiaries of these GENCOs and DISCOs are unqualified technically and lack the financial capacity to turn around these companies. The DISCOs have only remained cash cows for the new owners who are all PDP faithfuls/cronies and past Nigerian leaders with influence. Not one of the 6 DISCOS was sold to a real power concern with existing profile to handle turn around of the magnitude required to make a miracle of our power sector as we did when we brought MTN and Econet into our Telecoms sector.

maxiuc:
my prepaid meter have not seen light for 5days now in lugbe fha abuja

so no light no payment


get your prepaid by any means meet those nepa boys find them small change dem go help you source for one thats how i got mine

Irony of life...in the U.S, they wished they never had prepaid meter.

Let's shut this country down for six months until the right things are done. The crazy billing is getting out of hand.

it should be megawatt hour not megawatt.

ifeanyi317:
i dont understand where all this figure daily trust are fronting. cos those energy meter need to be calibrated.
To the issue of discos rejecting Load i dont think is possible cos they need more supply ( the higher the supply the higher the revenue generated).
we need to ask our self question like was their capacity to pick the load from both Transmission(the 132-33kV lines and panel) and Distribution line ( 11-.415KV). and what has the Govt Owned Transmission station done to improve their present capacity. the last time i checked most of the equipment are old and cannot function to full capacity.
all this issues need to be fixed and looked into before someone will come and be shouting discos are rejecting Load.
How can discos reject Load when they are not even getting the required Load per day.

Don't you think d gencos already knows the capacity of each transmission and discos before sending them the power? The problem is with d discos as mentioned by others.

ifeanyi317:
their is a contract in place before the privatization of Nepa that is taking care of that issue already and generation is never stopped it is continuous. that is where the percentage sharing comes into play which takes care of the load each disco get. the percenatge take care of the capacity of the discos

power generating stations can shut down part or all of thier generating plant. it happened more than twice when i was there. you see, there are times that the national grid can be so oversaturated that some GENCOS will be called by NERC to shut down some of their turbines.

BlowBack:
In my area you can't bypass the meter as it is rigged on the electric pole.

The disco also carried out routine checks an if you are caught bypassing (if that is even possible) you will be slammed with a hefty fine.

Bypassing the prepaid meter is not easy and definitely not worth it

lol bypassing is easy,but it's not worth it.
if caught here in Abuja you can pay as high as #200k


my neighbor's prepaid meter was stuck by a thunder lighting I guess and the thing brain loose control.

it will be reading and when it reads down to 0 units,the light will not troop off.

kjhova:
The report is incorrect and I believe that the OP need to reconfirm the figures and measure from the source. There is no country in Africa that generates 75,000MW not to even suggest that distributors will reject 10,000MW! I will rather assume that the original report must have been about 7,500MW with rejection of 1,000MW which will still be ludicrous as we don't generate up to this yet. Or more believably, I'd assume the OP meant 75,000MWh rather than 75,000MW which is a completely different proposition and lot more believable.

This said, I will comment that the supposed privatisation of the unbundled power companies by the GEJ administration was wrong and that the beneficiaries of these GENCOs and DISCOs are unqualified technically and lack the financial capacity to turn around these companies. The DISCOs have only remained cash cows for the new owners who are all PDP faithfuls/cronies and past Nigerian leaders with influence. Not one of the 6 DISCOS was sold to a real power concern with existing profile to handle turn around of the magnitude required to make a miracle of our power sector as we did when we brought MTN and Econet into our Telecoms sector.

Thank God that the privatisation of telecoms happened under OBJ. If it had been done by Jonathan he would have messed that up too the same way he messed up the sale to discos. At least d telecoms privatisation under OBJ is more stable than Jonathan's power privatisation.

mecussey:
Irony of life...in the U.S, they wished they never had prepaid meter.

why is that so?

Max24:
why is that so?

cost more,there is man power involved each time you top up,same for every service be it gas bill or phone bill.Monthly charges are way cheaper than PYG

Max24:
Thank God that the privatisation of telecoms happened under OBJ. If it had been done by Jonathan he would have messed that up too the same way he messed up the sale to discos. At least d telecoms privatisation under OBJ is more stable than Jonathan's power privatisation.

Get sense, the idea was perfect but the DICOs and GENCOs are Devils, they want profit but do not want to invest.like the telecoms are investing.

Max24:
Don't you think d gencos already knows the capacity of each transmission and discos before sending them the power? The problem is with d discos as mentioned by others.

all am trying to say is DISCO dont intentional reject load as said in the report.their a lot of issues both from transmission also.

thecommunist:
power generating stations can shut down part or all of thier generating plant. it happened more than twice when i was there. you see, there are times that the national grid can be so oversaturated that some GENCOS will be called by NERC to shut down some of their turbines.

based on the frequency which goes both ways

diablos:
Lol...eerything in naija get cheat o...jst say u no knw d one for discos and their meters

And how do you expect the system to work if you keep cheating on it?

Efomeh2020:
It is obvious that the discos are not investing in the sector. they are interested in recovering the capital spent on buying the company. They don't have the capacity to equitably distribute the electricity generated by the gencos. We all clamoured for the sales of these assets as though the private sector has never failed.

The privatization would have worked, at least to an extent had it been the assets where not unscrupulously given away to political patrons, who had zero knowledge about power, who obliviously thought they were buying cash cows, not knowing that power was about to change hands.

Max24:
Thank God that the privatisation of telecoms happened under OBJ. If it had been done by Jonathan he would have messed that up too the same way he messed up the sale to discos. At least d telecoms privatisation under OBJ is more stable than Jonathan's power privatisation.

Were the multinational telecoms company owned by the government at any time since they set foot in this country?

erico2k2:
cost more,there is man power involved each time you top up,same for every service be it gas bill or phone bill.Monthly charges are way cheaper than PYG

That's because they're seeing the power na. Had it been there govt connives with power companies to force them to pay for darkness, they'd not feel that way.

ifeanyi317:
all am trying to say is DISCO dont intentional reject load as said in the report.their a lot of issues both from transmission also.

They will keep passing d blame among themselves. Bottom line is d arrangement is not working- and Jonathan that put together d failed arrangement should be blamed.