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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 11:27am On Apr 13, 2017
Mindfulness:
NATO is no longer obsolete according to Trump. Dude is changing his opinion like other people their underwear. grin

NATO is now an anti terrorism organisation cheesy cheesy cheesy

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by happney65: 12:30pm On Apr 13, 2017
Lucasbalo:
Hey Junebug.

Bro,Is that Guy suffering from depression,drugs or something?He keeps.on opening new accounts every now and then...So many psycho People dey ur America bro..Lol

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 1:53pm On Apr 13, 2017
happney65:


Bro,Is that Guy suffering from depression,drugs or something?He keeps.on opening new accounts every now and then...So many psycho People dey ur America bro..Lol
Trump Is affecting his mental health. The young blood is a mystery to me .

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by happney65: 1:54pm On Apr 13, 2017
Lucasbalo:
Trump Is affecting his mental health. The young blood is a mystery to me .

grin grin grin
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 1:55pm On Apr 13, 2017
oyb:


NATO is now an anti terrorism organisation cheesy cheesy cheesy
Trump has no core values. He's a useless leader that goes where the wind falls. More of his rants to follow. The Russiagate is still loading. He's a black dot on American history.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Missy89(f): 6:33pm On Apr 13, 2017
MOAB dropped in Afganistan
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by TapDance: 6:36pm On Apr 13, 2017
happney65:


Bro,Is that Guy suffering from depression,drugs or something?He keeps.on opening new accounts every now and then...So many psycho People dey ur America bro..Lol

Hello there Happy neckbeard...NL is supposed to be a forum, why does it matter what account I use?...Think.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by TapDance: 6:37pm On Apr 13, 2017
Lucasbalo:
Trump Is affecting his mental health. The young blood is a mystery to me .

You have been brainwashed.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by TapDance: 6:37pm On Apr 13, 2017
Missy89:
MOAB dropped in Afganistan

You gotta Expantiate on that Acronym Mademoiselle.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by TapDance: 6:38pm On Apr 13, 2017
First female Black Muslim Judge found floating on Hudson River...Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by happney65: 6:55pm On Apr 13, 2017
TapDance:


Hello there Happy neckbeard...NL is supposed to be a forum, why does it matter what account I use?...Think.

grin grin grin
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by happney65: 6:56pm On Apr 13, 2017
Missy89:
MOAB dropped in Afganistan

Mother of all Bombs..
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Missy89(f): 7:08pm On Apr 13, 2017
happney65:


Mother of all Bombs..

21,000 pounds of unadulterated freedom. grin

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 7:17pm On Apr 13, 2017
TapDance:


You gotta Expantiate on that Acronym Mademoiselle.
MOAB means Mother Of All Bombs. Bombing caves all over Afghanistan makes no sense but I don't expect anything sensible from the clueless trump.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by TapDance: 7:29pm On Apr 13, 2017
Lucasbalo:
MOAB means Mother Of All Bombs. Bombing caves all over Afghanistan makes no sense but I don't expect anything sensible from the clueless trump.

Can we tax bombs...If we can then it makes perfect sense grin
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by TapDance: 7:40pm On Apr 13, 2017
Trump is an egomaniac, WTF
Would you drop expensive bombs on ISIS caves, Just to prove superiority to Putin...No sense.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 7:45pm On Apr 13, 2017
TapDance:
Trump is an egomaniac, WTF
Would you drop expensive bombs on ISIS caves, Just to prove superiority to Putin...No sense.
Trump's case is a case of wag the dog. He's doing all these bombings to get people away from Russiagate but Russiagate ain't going no where.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 9:36am On Apr 14, 2017
oyb:


NATO is now an anti terrorism organisation cheesy cheesy cheesy

I am not surprised he does not know what the NATO is. grin
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by TapDance: 2:55am On Apr 15, 2017
Lucasbalo:
Trump's case is a case of wag the dog. He's doing all these bombings to get people away from Russiagate but Russiagate ain't going no where.

He's doing his duty, Give the man credit where it's due.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 7:05am On Apr 15, 2017
TapDance:


He's doing his duty, Give the man credit where it's due.
President Trump is doing what a POTUS should do. I think even d most devoted loyal supporters may be scratching their heads this time, but he knows d game and deserve some credits. "We will achieve PEACE through STRENGTH" - Candidate Trump (2016)
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 9:27am On Apr 15, 2017
obixcel:
President Trump is doing what a POTUS should do. I think even d most devoted loyal supporters may be scratching their heads this time, but he knows d game and deserve some credits. "We will achieve PEACE through STRENGTH" - Candidate Trump (2016)

We are giving him credit for breaking his promises one after the other. grin grin grin grin grin

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 11:19am On Apr 15, 2017
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-military-strategy_us_58efe50ae4b0bb9638e2a291?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009


The U.S. Military Thinks Missiles And Bombs Work Better With A Strategy, Too
They would like to know Trump’s intent in North Korea, Syria and elsewhere.
By David Wood

They dispatched the carrier strike force toward North Korea. They launched the cruise missiles at Syria. But the U.S. military, stung when it was sent to war before without a clear plan and then blamed for the resulting mess, is expressing caution about being thrust deeper into any of the conflicts raging around the world.

Combat-ready American and allied troops are deployed today against heavily armed opposing forces in Europe and the Korean peninsula. Gen. Curtis Scaparrotti, U.S. and NATO commander in Europe and the former top U.S. commander in South Korea, last year described their situation like this: They’re ready “to fight tonight if deterrence fails.” But a plan would be good.

After 15 years of bloody, inconclusive war in Iraq and Afghanistan, experienced military officers are looking to President Donald Trump not just to pull the trigger on military action when needed. They’re looking for a coherent statement of American goals and a coordinated strategy that combines military force with economic, political, diplomatic, cyber and media power ― and doesn’t leave the war to the military alone.

“There is a limit, I think, to what we can do,” Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said this week at a Pentagon news conference, when asked about next steps the military might take in Syria following the April 7 missile attack.

Mattis, a retired Marine four-star general with years of warfighting experience, indicated that he’s in no rush to send U.S. forces into combat as the sole instrument of American power.

In a book he co-authored with Hoover Institution scholar Kori Schake last year, Mattis argued that the public and politicians are “implausibly expecting military force to produce sophisticated political, economic and cultural outcomes.” That’s not the military’s job, but “inherently a political undertaking.”

“In free societies, politicians must choose the political ends,” Mattis and Schake wrote. “They must also determine what price ― in blood, treasure and national credibility ― to pay for those ends.”

Retired Army Maj. Gen. Paul D. Eaton put it more simply. By failing to coordinate and focus all elements of power, he told The Huffington Post, the United States has “outsourced foreign policy to the U.S. military, and we are frequently not the very best tool.”
MANDEL NGAN/AFP/Getty Images
President Trump pointed the finger at the generals when a raid in Yemen didn’t go according to plan.

While Trump praised the “flawless” missile strike on Syria, he’s been quick to complain about America’s recent war record. “We never win,” he groused earlier this year. “And we don’t fight to win.” When a U.S. Navy SEAL was killed during a military raid in Yemen in February, Trump was ready to blame “the generals.”

It may seem counterintuitive, but many generals say war is too important to be left up to them. “I don’t think it’s fine, personally, to leave it up to the generals at the top level,” said retired Army Lt. Gen. Benjamin Freakley, who has served at all levels of command including leading the 10th Mountain Division in Afghanistan on his third combat tour.

“I don’t believe in leaving it to the generals because the generals need help in harnessing political and economic and informational power,” he told HuffPost. “The political work has to be synchronized with the military, with one strategic outcome for America’s use of power.”

That might require Trump’s national security adviser, Lt. Gen. H. R. McMaster, to structure the White House’s thinking about war the same way that military commanders approach it.

In combat operations, military leaders always write down and then brief their subordinates on their goal for the mission. This “commander’s intent” details precisely what the mission is intended to accomplish. Everyone should understand how each action contributes to the desired end state ― that is, the situation the commander envisions when the smoke clears.

Given the commander’s intent, staff officers can then plot out what resources will be needed to make the plan work ― troops, heavy-lift helicopters, ammunition, fuel, intelligence on enemy positions, even good weather (or bad, to cover troop movements).

At a higher level, the same kind of “commander’s intent” from the White House would help clarify, for instance, how a U.S. missile strike in Syria fits into an overall strategy of bringing down the regime of President Bashar Assad or ending the Syrian war. Guidance from the top would also help various staff allocate non-military resources to reach the goal.


That’s the sort of next steps that Mattis seemed to have in mind when he said the U.S. strategic plan for defeating the Islamic State exists “in skeleton form.” He said the plan is “being fleshed out now. This has got to be done in a methodical way, where we look at each element of it.”

“And it’s not something you can simply add water to a dehydrated plant and it’s suddenly a full-fledged plan. This is hard work and it’s going to take time,” Mattis added.

No such direction on any of the military conflicts in which the U.S. is engaged has come from the Trump administration ― or from Congress, which alone has constitutional war-making authority. The Pentagon has recently mounted operations in Somalia, Libya and Syria and has re-engaged in Iraq under the authority of legislation passed in 2001 to allow attacks on al Qaeda in Afghanistan. Congress has declined to update that authorization.

“Congress has been very content to go to ground, stay in foxhole defilade, if you will, and while the rounds are going over the foxhole, they’re not really involved,” Eaton said.

On Thursday, U.S. forces escalated the air war in Afghanistan, striking with a massive bomb on what was described as an ISIS tunnel complex. But the White House did not explain how the attack fit into an overall strategy or contributed to a clear end state. White House press secretary Sean Spicer declined to talk about strategy and referred all questions to the Defense Department.
Omar Sobhani/Reuters
U.S. troops attend to a wounded American soldier after a bomb blast in Kabul, Afghanistan, in June 2015.

Similarly, the White House ordered the aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson and its accompanying warships to head toward the Korean peninsula this week after Trump made vague threats about halting North Korea’s missile and nuclear weapons development. But the White House gave no explanation of the naval armada’s precise purpose, and did not address what reaction it anticipated or how the U.S. would handle a North Korean escalation.

The military’s insistence that it operate with a coherent strategy and a defined end is hardly academic. They want to make sure that lives ― their own, their buddies, all the men and women they command ― are not spent in vain.

“One third of the Army’s general officers have children serving in the military. I have three children who have served,” said Eaton, a West Pointer who now serves as a senior adviser to the progressive group VoteVets. With his two sons still on active duty, Eaton said, “we are consumed with the outcome of the mission and the human lives that are at stake, both American and on the other side.”

So when they look to the commander-in-chief, they have a blunt request.

“If you’re going to give a four-star [general] a mission, then you better be clear about what your end state is,” Eaton said.

No strategy or clear end state has ever been defined for the ongoing U.S. military campaigns in Afghanistan and Iraq. Now, he said, with more potential conflicts tempting American intervention, “we as a military class do not want a mission where we’re going to be set up for failure.”

the only strategy i see from the trump white house unfortunately, is strong leader optics
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 2:23pm On Apr 15, 2017
obixcel:
President Trump is doing what a POTUS should do. I think even d most devoted loyal supporters may be scratching their heads this time, but he knows d game and deserve some credits. "We will achieve PEACE through STRENGTH" - Candidate Trump (2016)
Another garbage from a mental midget. Your lips must be orange now from licking Trump's fat and stinking Orange a+s. You just gobbling all the junk the dementia Trump is throwing in your face. Whatever happened to make America great Trump the Conman was yelling when he was running for office ?. How did bombing Yemen, Syria and Afghanistan making America great ?. How did threatening a Nuclear war with North Korea will make America great ?. A fool like you always gobble up his toxic junk. The heat in your cave must have driven you out.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 3:37pm On Apr 15, 2017
Irrespective of party affiliation, a law is urgently needed to limit the amount of tax payer money used in footing the vacation bills of a president outside the DMV area.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 3:43pm On Apr 15, 2017
CFCman:
Irrespective of party affiliation, a law is urgently needed to limit the amount of tax payer money used in footing the vacation bills of a president outside the DMV area.
Supported. The worthless Trump is on his 19th golf playing scam since he became a President and we are the one footing the bill. His brainstem supporters on Nairaland do not pay a dime to America's coffers. Today being April 15, we all know the importance of paying taxes and there's demonstration all over the country for the Conman in the Oval Office to release his taxes.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 3:58pm On Apr 15, 2017
Lucasbalo:
Supported. The worthless Trump is on his 19th golf playing scam since he became a President and we are the one footing the bill. His brainstem supporters on Nairaland do not pay a dime to America's coffers. Today being April 15, we all know the importance of paying taxes and there's demonstration all over the country for the Conman in the Oval Office to release his taxes.

Exactly
It's unfair to people making $30,000/year to be footing the bills of the expensive lifestyle of a billionaire president, or any other president for that matter.

Tax payers should only be on the hook for a total of 14 days (in a 12-month period) vacation time spent by a president outside the DMV area. If it goes beyond 14 days, then the DNC/RNC or the president should foot the bill from his/her pocket.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 4:06pm On Apr 15, 2017
CFCman:


Exactly
It's unfair to people making $30,000/year to be footing the bills of the expensive lifestyle of a billionaire president, or any other president for that matter.

Tax payers should only be on the hook for a total of 14 days (in a 12-month period) vacation time spent by a president outside the DMV area. If it goes beyond 14 days, then the DNC/RNC or the president should foot the bill from his/her pocket.
You nailed it CFCman. Trump's scamming the American people the same way he scammed all those gullible people with his Fake and Unaccredited now defunct University. The guy is a typical New York two bit hustler. That's the problem I have with Missy and the other guy roaming about all the cities in America. They will make little or nothing and they will be advocating for tax cuts for billionaires and multimillionaires. How do cutting taxes for the Uber rich help the Middle Class people in America ?. A lot of Americans have been brainwashed to work against their self interest. By the way, did you notice that Trump never releases his tax information for 2016 like other Presidents do. Just have to bring that up since today is April 15.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 5:12pm On Apr 15, 2017
Mindfulness:


We are giving him credit for breaking his promises one after the other. grin grin grin grin grin
At least start crediting him for repealing some of the Obama-era regulations. And besides he promised to tackle illegal immigration, and even though the wall isn't yet built, already illegal immigration is now lowest in 17 yrs.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 5:34pm On Apr 15, 2017
obixcel:
At least start crediting him for repealing some of the Obama-era regulations. And besides he promised to tackle illegal immigration, and even though the wall isn't yet built, already illegal immigration is now lowest in 17 yrs.
Here we go again, the brainwashed village skunk never fails to disappoint . Give him credit for what ?. I will give him credit for keeping you and your ilks away from US so you won't contaminate the blood pool here with your ignorance and idiocy. There are protests in over 450 cities in America including here in Chicago because today is April 15 which is Tax Day and the conman won't even show us his taxes like all his predecessors did. Go back into the cave.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by happney65: 11:15pm On Apr 15, 2017
Lucasbalo:
Supported. The worthless Trump is on his 19th golf playing scam since he became a President and we are the one footing the bill. His brainstem supporters on Nairaland do not pay a dime to America's coffers. Today being April 15, we all know the importance of paying taxes and there's demonstration all over the country for the Conman in the Oval Office to release his taxes.

My Broda,Like APC Scammed us in Nigeria,You have also being scammed..Never believed America could be like this..He isnt in anyway different from our own Buhari..Birds of the same feather..

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by happney65: 11:16pm On Apr 15, 2017
His Imperial Majesty the King of America; Chairman, CEO AMERICA NLC (No Liability Company): Eze Gburugburu Donald Trump
The biggest HYPOCRITE to ever occupy the WH
The only SCAMMER to ever become the leader of the free world
He's breaking records:
19th time on the golf course in less than 100 days for a guy who heavily criticized his predecessor's golfing pastime. BO had 0 golfing at this time of his presidency.
A whopping $20m of tax payers' money already spent in less than 100 days for a guy who heavily criticized his predecessor's travel spending. BO spent $97 in all of 8 years presidency. Do the math yourself of where the narcissist will end up in 4 years.
About face, about face, about face in all of his dumb campaign rhetorics:
NATO is no longer obsolete
China is no longer a currency manipulator
Jobs added are no longer fake
Fed Chairwoman is no longer dull
Merkel is no longer crazy
Health care is no longer easy to accomplish
The phantom deal-maker couldn't even make a single deal yet. He's better described as a DELI-MAKER
His henchmen, Pence, Mattis, Tillerson... are globetrotting in search of diplomatic solutions to a world in peril dealing with rogue regimes around the world. Their principal is reveling in his opulent Florida resort with his family. You see why I dub his presidency imperial kingship?
Meanwhile, those Americans he brainwashed with his hyperbolic mantra of "make America great again" are screaming blue murder. Many are already walking away. They are discovering IT'S ALL FAIRY TALE.
Dapo Rotifa

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by armyofone(m): 1:32am On Apr 16, 2017
I paid so much tax this year...and they said i earned too much so no refund shocked looking for way to pay less o.

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