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Re: Does This Make Jesus Greater Than Muhammad? by iceboy4752(op): 2:29pm On Apr 13, 2017
annunaki2:
And you call that terrible piece of literature a miraclehuh The only miracle is that mohamed successfully conned generations of muslims into believing the trash he concocted up and called the Quran has divine origins.
Terrible piece of Literature keh? The Qur'an is the best rated Arabic Literature so far. It's not even something Muslims rated but the westerners.
The Qur'an is flawless unlike the man altered Bible.
Re: Does This Make Jesus Greater Than Muhammad? by shadeyinka(m): 3:40pm On Apr 13, 2017
annunaki2:
And you call that terrible piece of literature a miraclehuh The only miracle is that mohamed successfully conned generations of muslims into believing the trash he concocted up and called the quoran has divine origins.
Ah, its a big miracle oh.

Imagine writing a literature of several hundred chapters, tearing them up, shuffling and then rebinding the pages in no specific order.

That kind of book is a miracle. Don't you agree.

Its a book that is supposed to be simple yet, no one can understand it without reading numerous Hadiths and Sunna's! SMH

Its a miracle.
Re: Does This Make Jesus Greater Than Muhammad? by shadeyinka(m): 3:44pm On Apr 13, 2017
iceboy4752:
Don't be too quick to judge that the Qur'an speaks lies against Jesus because he didn't do something's in the Bible which were recorded in the Qur'an like speaking from the cradle.

Joh 21:25 *But there are also many other things which Jesus did; were every one of them to be written, I suppose that the world itself could not contain the books that would be written.*
But how about the Quran emphatically saying that
Jesus was neither crucified, never died,never resurected and is coming back to the world as a Muslim to convert all Christians to Islam?

Don't you see that that is an attack on the fundernmetal of Christianity. Is it possible to be born again and yet holding on to the above contradiction s and lies?
Re: Does This Make Jesus Greater Than Muhammad? by plappville(f): 3:45pm On Apr 13, 2017
shadeyinka:
Ah, its a big miracle oh.

Imagine writing a literature of several hundred chapters, tearing them up, shuffling and then rebinding the pages in no specific order.

That kind of book is a miracle. Don't you agree.

Its a book that is supposed to be simple yet, no one can understand it without reading numerous Hadiths and Sunna's! SMH

Its a miracle.
That was very funny.. cheesy grin
Re: Does This Make Jesus Greater Than Muhammad? by plappville(f): 3:49pm On Apr 13, 2017
Blackfire:
Annunaki2, analice107 and plappville u people will not kill me with laughter here...
If I mistakenly sold my goods lower to this customer, I will personally hold u guys responsible.

Chai wicked comments
Why we go kill u na ? You be my person I no fit kill oo. I no be Muslim wen dey see human being like chicken tongue

So customer stand for ur shop yet u dey read a thread about allah umm? shocked you take risk oo. I only use my spare time on threads like this cheesy
Re: Does This Make Jesus Greater Than Muhammad? by plappville(f): 3:51pm On Apr 13, 2017
shadeyinka:
And some lies too..

Like
Jesus was not crucified....
Jesus did not die...
Jesus did not resurrect...
Jesus spoke as a baby...and Christians forgot to include this miracle in their book.!
What about the one wen He mistook Moses sister Mariam for Jésus Mother? grin cheesy

All Islamic scholars could do is lie to cover him..buaaa grin cheesy
Re: Does This Make Jesus Greater Than Muhammad? by plappville(f): 3:55pm On Apr 13, 2017
iceboy4752:
grin
Your insults can't do anything to me, the worst thing it can do is appear on my phone's screen.
We all know that Allah means God in Arabic. Christians in Mexico, Japan, India, and other nations don't call him Jehovah but rather the name of God in their language.
Shurrup again. In French God means Dieu. When we pray we say "Dieu d'Israël " or Dieu d'Abraham etc just as God instructed. Can you say a prayer by using the word: Allah of Israel? Try it and you get killed by the next Muslim who hears you say that grin cheesy
Re: Does This Make Jesus Greater Than Muhammad? by plappville(f): 3:57pm On Apr 13, 2017
OP havé not made sense in his thread. Let him shut up. Or better of move your thread to your graveyard.

The "Islamic section" where you will gain many likes for such thread smiley
Re: Does This Make Jesus Greater Than Muhammad? by plappville(f): 4:41pm On Apr 13, 2017
iceboy4752:
Terrible piece of Literature keh? The Qur'an is the best rated Arabic Literature so far. It's not even something Muslims rated but the westerners.
The Qur'an is flawless unlike the man altered Bible.
At the bold, say by who? The same Quran the West trying to reform because of so much hate in it? undecided

With your claim, can you show us one instance that Islam has portrayed good to this earth? Reading the quran, The Arabs/Muslims destroy their own kind and call it commendable. They promote violence and murder towards those who question or deviate from their beliefs. The beheadings, the stonings, the hate for infidels, the hangings and the down right disgusting show of inhumanity for such things as adultery and resistance. You’re all baptised into al-taqiyya cheesy

You Muslims when talking appear very sincere, in fact, you are sincere, when you lie for ur own protection or in the cause of Islam. You ve permission to lie. Yes, Christians have also lied but never are they given permission to lie. However, a Muslim has no guilt since the quran and Hadith permit his deception. How can you say the bold?

Must you lie to gain credibility? You will lie to make Islam more attractive to potential converts as they speak of “no compulsion in religion” while all of them know that verse was abrogated by later verses.

You will quote verses that speak of tolerance and kindness knowing that those verses were written when Mohammed was desirous of “tolerance and kindness,” but when he climbed into the catbird seat, everything changedd and he became a terrorist. He was the first Muslim terrorist. You guys can't change this historical fact!! Stop lying Bro. smiley

Re: Does This Make Jesus Greater Than Muhammad? by iceboy4752(op): 4:57pm On Apr 13, 2017
plappville:
At the bold, say by who? The same Quran the West trying to reform because of so much hate in it? undecided

With your claim, can you show us one instance that Islam has portrayed good to this earth? Reading the quran, The Arabs/Muslims destroy their own kind and call it commendable. They promote violence and murder towards those who question or deviate from their beliefs. The beheadings, the stonings, the hate for infidels, the hangings and the down right disgusting show of inhumanity for such things as adultery and resistance. You’re all baptised into al-taqiyya cheesy

You Muslims when talking appear very sincere, in fact, you are sincere, when you lie for ur own protection or in the cause of Islam. You ve permission to lie. Yes, Christians have also lied but never are they given permission to lie. However, a Muslim has no guilt since the quran and Hadith permit his deception. How can you say the bold?

Must you lie to gain credibility? You will lie to make Islam more attractive to potential converts as they speak of “no compulsion in religion” while all of them know that verse was abrogated by later verses.

You will quote verses that speak of tolerance and kindness knowing that those verses were written when Mohammed was desirous of “tolerance and kindness,” but when he climbed into the catbird seat, everything changedd and he became a terrorist. He was the first Muslim terrorist. You guys can't change this historical fact!! Stop lying Bro. smiley

Re: Does This Make Jesus Greater Than Muhammad? by plappville(f): 5:12pm On Apr 13, 2017
[quote author=iceboy4752 post=55540496][/quote]Isis and Co studied Islam. Do you have better knowledge than those born Arab terrorist's who practice the quantity to its letters? undecided
Re: Does This Make Jesus Greater Than Muhammad? by shadeyinka(m): 5:19pm On Apr 13, 2017
plappville:
That was very funny.. cheesy grin
That's why I join you to laugh the laughter!
Re: Does This Make Jesus Greater Than Muhammad? by annunaki2(m): 5:23pm On Apr 13, 2017
[quote author=iceboy4752 post=55540496][/quote]The leader of ISIS al bagdadi is an islamic scholar with a phd in islamic studies. He is also an Arab man who understands Islam in it's proper context without the probability of translation errors. He is clearly following the sunnah of mohammed.
Re: Does This Make Jesus Greater Than Muhammad? by plainbibletruth: 5:35pm On Apr 13, 2017
iceboy4752
Maybe you need to see this thread:
https://www.nairaland.com/3679451/muslims-believe-dr-zakir-naik#54540001

Muslims Who Believe Dr. Zakir Naik Are Doomed

The quran’s errors include factual errors, moral errors and theological errors.

When taken up with muslims such as Zakir Naik a problem passage with one of these errors is usually approached by their coming with -
The “marvel” of “smart” interpretation

They say something like “Yes, you find that said there, BUT what it REALLY MEANT is bla, bla, bla, “

Why didn’t a book that is meant to be CLEAR plainly state what Allah meant?

Unfortunately, most of the time, for such “smart” interpreters their prophet Mohamed blocks their reinterpretation. When the hadith and muslim commentaries are consulted we see how Mohamed and his companions TOTALLY contradict such reinterpretation.

A case in point – an example:
Sura 18:83-86 claims the sun sets in a spring or pool of muddy water. In his attempt to ‘explain’ this problem passage that says the sun (which is 1.3 million times bigger than the earth) sets in a pool of water, Zakir Naik comes up with his “ingenious” reinterpretation to “clarify” what Allah REALLY means. He says what the passage really says is that Alexander the Great – Dhul Qarnayn in the quran passage – reached an unspecified place ‘at the time of sunset’. Not that it was the sun that set in a place – the pool. It was ‘at the time of sunset the quran wanted to tell us.
Now, that would appear to be more logical, wouldn’t it?
Looks brilliant?
Problem solved?
Not quite!

What we see is that in order to explain the ”SUN GOING INTO THE SPRING OF WATER” brilliant Dr. Naik comes up with this his “smart” interpretation (actually reinterpretation) which is that – “it means it appears to Alexander the Great……… So Allah was really saying what Alexander the Great thought he saw” and not making a claim about WHERE the sun sets.
Looks brilliant? Yes?
No! Because Mohamed blocks Dr. Naik’s reinterpretation.

Let’s see where and how:
By turning to hadith.
In Sunan Abu Dawud 3991 we find this:
Abu Dhar said: I was sitting behind the Apostle of Allah who was riding a donkey while the sun was setting. He asked: Do you know where this sets? I replied: Allah and his Apostle know best. He said: It sets in a spring of warm water.

We can immediately see then that there is absolutely no room for the kind of reinterpretation of what the quran said.
So the PERFECTLY CLEAR quran tells us that the sun sets in a pool of water.

It turns out then that Dr. Zakir Naik in a bid to defend his religion has ended up insulting his prophet and Allah because he claims to speak more clearly than his god and a better interpreter than his prophet

It is a CLEAR FACT that the sun does not set in a pool of water.
Can a book – the quran – which says this and by so doing clearly propagating error be trusted?
Those who join and follow Dr. Zakir Naik’s reinterpretation end up in blasphemy of their prophet and god. By so doing can they be assured of Paradise or end up in hell for blasphemy?

Way Out!
Follow the only unique and supernatural One – Jesus Christ who said:
I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me” (Jn. 14:6).
“Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved” (Acts 16:3)
“He who believes in the Son (as Saviour) has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him” (Jn. 3:36)
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Re: Does This Make Jesus Greater Than Muhammad? by shadeyinka(m): 6:51pm On Apr 13, 2017
plappville:
What about the one wen He mistook Moses sister Mariam for Jésus Mother? grin cheesy

All Islamic scholars could do is lie to cover him..buaaa grin cheesy
Na true you talk o!

Mary Mother of Jesus, Daughter of Imran and Sister of Aaron!

It looks like someone who didn't know Jewish history was trying to impersonate Allah.

We know who the impersonator is! SMH



To Muslims reading this:
Marian is the daughter of Imran and the Sister of Aaron NOT Mary the mother of Jesus.

Marian died almost 2000 years before Mary was born. Allah or his impersonator made a big goof!
Re: Does This Make Jesus Greater Than Muhammad? by Blackfire(m): 5:19pm On Apr 14, 2017
plappville:
Why we go kill u na ? You be my person I no fit kill oo. I no be Muslim wen dey see human being like chicken tongue

So customer stand for ur shop yet u dey read a thread about allah umm? shocked you take risk oo. I only use my spare time on threads like this cheesy
Happy Easter my dear... Salute to the king of kings...


Like one of my onitsha guy will say HE is A-BIG Nwan.
Re: Does This Make Jesus Greater Than Muhammad? by plappville(f): 6:07pm On Apr 14, 2017
shadeyinka:
Na true you talk o!

Mary Mother of Jesus, Daughter of Imran and Sister of Aaron!

It looks like someone who didn't know Jewish history was trying to impersonate Allah.

We know who the impersonator is! SMH



To Muslims reading this:
Marian is the daughter of Imran and the Sister of Aaron NOT Mary the mother of Jesus.

Marian died almost 2000 years before Mary was born. Allah or his impersonator made a big goof!
I told the OP that His intention will turn against him.
The more lies they come up with the more we will expose Islam. grin grin grin
Re: Does This Make Jesus Greater Than Muhammad? by plappville(f): 6:09pm On Apr 14, 2017
Blackfire:
Happy Easter my dear... Salute to the king of kings...


Like one of my onitsha guy will say HE is A-BIG Nwan.
Thanks bro, same to you.

The Lord died and rose again hallelujah smiley
Re: Does This Make Jesus Greater Than Muhammad? by Blackfire(m): 6:10pm On Apr 14, 2017
plappville:
Thanks bro, same to you.

The Lord died and rose again hallelujah smiley
Unlike a wannabe somewhere..
Re: Does This Make Jesus Greater Than Muhammad? by shadeyinka(m): 7:39pm On Apr 14, 2017
plappville:
I told the OP that His intention will turn against him.
The more lies they come up with the more we will expose Islam. grin grin grin
Unfortunately, because Muslims don't read beyond what they are given to memorise, they do not understand the gravity of historical and logical contradictions they claim. For them, its easier to rewrite history than admit the truth.
Re: Does This Make Jesus Greater Than Muhammad? by plappville(f): 6:35pm On Apr 15, 2017
shadeyinka:
Unfortunately, because Muslims don't read beyond what they are given to memorise, they do not understand the gravity of historical and logical contradictions they claim. For them, its easier to rewrite history than admit the truth.
Exactly !
Re: Does This Make Jesus Greater Than Muhammad? by shadeyinka(m): 6:52pm On Apr 15, 2017
plappville:
Exactly !
The OP has vamoosed from the post. Someone should call him to finish what he started
Re: Does This Make Jesus Greater Than Muhammad? by iceboy4752(op): 12:33am On Mar 12, 2019
shadeyinka:
The OP has vamoosed from the post. Someone should call him to finish what he started
Vamoosed to where?
Re: Does This Make Jesus Greater Than Muhammad? by shadeyinka(m): 5:59am On Mar 12, 2019
iceboy4752:
Vamoosed to where?
Your post was opened in April 2017.

In what specific ways do you think Mohammed was greater than Jesus?
Re: Does This Make Jesus Greater Than Muhammad? by iceboy4752(op): 9:45am On Mar 23, 2019
shadeyinka:
Your post was opened in April 2017.

In what specific ways do you think Mohammed was greater than Jesus?
The essence of the post is not to compare the Messengers. It is to discredit the specious claim that Jesus is greater than Muhammad because his name is mentioned more in the Qur'an.
Go through it again.
Re: Does This Make Jesus Greater Than Muhammad? by shadeyinka(m): 11:26am On Mar 23, 2019
iceboy4752:
The essence of the post is not to compare the Messengers. It is to discredit the specious claim that Jesus is greater than Muhammad because his name is mentioned more in the Qur'an.
Go through it again.
Oh in that case I agree with you. One cannot use the bases of frequency of name appearance to judge superiority. There are better points like:

1. Apart from Adam and Eve, no one has the type of birth like Jesus Christ.
2. Of all humans according to Islam Jesus didn't pass through the phase of death. Allah took Him straight to Himself
3. Of all Prophets, their ministry terminates with their death except for Jesus who will have to Kill the Dajaal and break the crosses and kill the Jews (pigs) in the future.
4. The miracles of Jesus: He is the only Prophet who could make a bird from clay and give life to it by the permission of Allah.
5. He is the only human who has never commited sin.

(I have picked only the points agreeable to Islam)

In what ways do you think prophet Mohammed is greater than Jesus using the five yardstick above?
Re: Does This Make Jesus Greater Than Muhammad? by iceboy4752(op): 7:15am On Jun 03, 2020
analice107:
Aside from how many times their names appeared, tell us the miracles performed by Muhammed in his very own koran. compare them with the miracles his koran said Jesus performed.

FYI, Pharaoh is not a personal noun. It's not a name of a person, its a Title given to the kings of Egypt. dumb muslims.
As used in the Qur'an, it's a personal noun used to refer to one of the Pharaohs sir.
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