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Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by MrMaestro: 8:14pm On Apr 23, 2017 |
nyben4eva: I've never heard of anything more ridiculous. What African country has perfect roads? Please just llistone country. And what have you done to improve nigeria. Just name one thing. |
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by orisa37: 8:20pm On Apr 23, 2017 |
The rule is, the 5 South East States should in their Parliaments resolve to leave Nigeria. And off they go once The NASS receive their Resolutions. But they cannot lure any other State to go with them. 1 Like |
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by PDJT: 8:45pm On Apr 23, 2017 |
Angel196: I take Biafra issue personal. Stop being a hypocrite, though. It's not a good attribute. |
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by pchukwudi: 10:26pm On Apr 23, 2017 |
Madam, please get this into your head right now: THERE IS NOTHING LIKE THE TRUTH ABOUT THE FUTURE. Everything you say about the future is a mere SPECULATION which may or may not come to pass. So when you want to make a statement (or give advice) about ANOTHER PERSONS future, do not present your idea, opinion, assumption and speculations as the TRUTH, because it's not. Ascribing to your opinion the status of truth is like playing God in another person's matter. That's both foolish and offensive. Angel196: 2 Likes |
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by Angel196(f): 10:32pm On Apr 23, 2017 |
PDJT: I'm not being a hypocrite. If being honest means I am, then okay. If that's the way you feel. What brought about me mentioning the northern crisis I escaped from is different from the Biafra issue. It all started with the Fulani herdsmen comments about how Buhari was the one backing them even though the issue had started since Buhari even became the President. I didn't blame Good luck for that crisis. I'm sure if one of the parties fighting that war was his tribe, people will blame him for it. We all like pointing fingers and hate taking blames, that's the honest truth about it. Our mentality is one of our main problems not Nigeria. Nigeria is just a name. The people make up the country. Anyone willing to create another country should be set free to do so. If we want to make a difference we should consider changing our mentality. Its not only tribalism and religious favoritism, that's just the tip of the iceberg. Medakeke and ife were both Yoruba's but their hatred for one another had caused many deaths and heart breaks. You think even if a country is made up of the same tribe it will eradicate segmentation? Religion will still be a source of segmentation, even in the same religion, they'll say this person is favouring that person because they worship in the same church. What about clans and states? Aren't those excuses and causes too? Not forgetting parties too. Biafra has my best wishes and I have nothing against them. But if they truly want to succeed they should make adequate plans, change some of their mentalities and learn from mistakes made in this country. It won't be easy, that's the bitter truth, anyone who tries to point otherwise is a liar, but there's also a chance for success if the work very hard and don't repeat mistakes they should've learned from. 1 Like |
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by Angel196(f): 10:51pm On Apr 23, 2017 |
pchukwudi: So, you mean if I tell someone that he'll fail without reading for exams is just mere speculations and not the truth and fact? I'm playing god with that person? Well it'll be a speculation if that person plans on passing through examination malpractice. Do you think God answers prayers of lazy people who don't back up their prayers with hard work? Or maybe it's always supposed to be through a miracle. Like a person who keeps praying and fasting for success in an exam yet writes nothing except his name. That person failing is a speculation because he might actually pass abi? You want me to say building another country and succeeding is easy? Okay it is easy. I'm sorry for pointing otherwise. pchukwudi: So, you mean if I tell someone that he'll fail without reading for exams is just mere speculations and not the truth and fact? I'm playing god with that person? Well it'll be a speculation if that person plans on passing through examination malpractice. Do you think God answers prayers of lazy people who don't back up their prayers with hard work? Or maybe it's always supposed to be through a miracle. Like a person who keeps praying and fasting for success in an exam yet writes nothing except his name. That person failing is a speculation because he might actually pass abi? You want me to say building another country and succeeding is easy? Okay it is easy. I'm sorry for pointing otherwise. |
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by pchukwudi: 10:57pm On Apr 23, 2017 |
1) The fact that you THINK the person was not reading DOES NOT mean that the person DID NOT READ. 2) The fact that you NEVER SAW the person reading, DOES NOT mean that the person is not ready. Please quit being a dogmatic control freak. Advice yourself instead, and let the other fellow do as she pleases. Stop playing God. Angel196: 1 Like |
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by pchukwudi: 11:07pm On Apr 23, 2017 |
Angel, don't get me wrong o. I actually like you, that's why we are having this back and forth. You have this fascinating combination of a very tender heart and elastically stubborn Will. (just like a chewing gum that appears soft to chew but will refuse to melt away once you start chewing it.) . And I like that. Angel196: |
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by thedragon: 11:17pm On Apr 23, 2017 |
deedeedee1: The differences you describe above aren't ethnic differences; they are tribal differences. Genetic tests comparing different Nigerian tribes like Igbo and Yoruba prove that there is no genetic difference between the two tribes, hence Nigerian tribes (and West African in general) are the same Black West African ethnicity. Nigerian tribes are different ethnically only to other races from far away, like Indians, whites, Horner, etc, not the common Negro Nigerian and thereabouts whose genes and origin you all commonly share. Nigeria can work inasmuch as Nigerians stop seeing each other as primitive tribes and more as Nigerian people, as the British stopped seeing each other as Northern European tribes like Celts and Franks, and now see themselves only as British. Ironically it is the combined tribal progeny of the Celts and Germanic tribes, the British, who colonized Nigeria. The Brits were forced into one by the Romans, assimilated into their new British identity, and grew the greatest Empire on Earth by playing African tribes against each other like puppets. They, nor the Indians, nor the Chinese care for your primitive tribal squabbles Continue and they will make you slaves or extinct for your Nigeria antediluvian myopia. This is 2017. The Japanese tribal wars ended centuries ago, yet yours continue to this day like the world goes slower for you than them. One Nigeria or Nigeria and West Africa are prey to the West and East. You think Nigerians know suffering now? The white man will change that. The Boers will send you all to Shark Island, as the Germans did Botswana (but luckily were stopped before their genocide could get going). They will feed you all to sharks, rape your women, take your lands and by the end you will wish for unity, as the Aztecs did when the Spaniards used opposing Native American tribes against the Aztecs, before killing them all - Aztec or not. That is how New Spain was created and the Native Americans of the Americaa destroyed. Stupid tribal squabbling while a deeper darker enemy lurks by. 2 Likes |
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by Angel196(f): 11:29pm On Apr 23, 2017 |
pchukwudi: It's not about seeing him reading or thinking he's not reading. The statement was not only a truth but a fact. Like saying plants would die without water or saying a person would get malnourished if he doesn't eat for days. You aren't pointing out that he's not reading or not eating, you are just pointing out what will happen if he doesn't. |
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by Angel196(f): 11:36pm On Apr 23, 2017 |
pchukwudi: It's not about seeing or thinking he's not reading. It's just stating things that are not only true but are facts. Just like saying plant will die without water or a person will starve and get malnourished if he doesn't eat for days. This are facts not that the person stating it mean he's not reading or eating, just stating what will happen if he doesn't. |
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by wirinet(m): 12:37am On Apr 24, 2017 |
I have said it again and again, I do not see how breaking up the country would solve any of the problems that beset Nigeria. In fact it will exasperate and maginify the problems. How many pieces do you want to break up the country; 2 pieces - north and south, 3 pieces according to the old regions, 36 pieces according to the present state structure, or over 259 pieces according to the estimated number of tribes in Nigeria. When you open the Pandora box of division, no one can predict where it will stop. If the old eastern region should secede as advocated by IPOB, the power struggle between the various tribes - especially the Igbo's and the Ijaws would tear the country apart. The Ijaws are my neighbour as an itsekiris man, so we understand each other well. The British saw pepper containing the Ijaws, just as Nigeria is having a hard time managing them now. The Ijaws are exteremly stobborn and easily take up arms. The problem with Nigeria and black Africa in general is not necessarily about political structure, it has more to do with political, social and moral values. No black nation on earth is doing well, even south Africa that was bequeathed a modern thriving economy by the apartheid white south African is gradually being eroded by uninspiring black leader ship. Imagine post apartheid south Africa was handed over to the whites in 1994, I am sure South Africa would have been competing with Israel by now, instead they are saddled with a president with 4 wives, numerous concubines and a plethora of corruption allegations. Yes, Nigeria has serious structural problems. The country is structured is such a way that there is a pecking order in the sharing and eating of the national cake - oil resources from the Niger delta. first is the Hausa Fulanis, second is the Yorubas, third is the Igbos, then all the other minority tribes. We see all the major tribes as parasites, they cannot run their states without oil resources from the nigerdelta. |
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by MrMaestro: 12:45am On Apr 24, 2017 |
wirinet: I agree 1000% |
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by wirinet(m): 1:10am On Apr 24, 2017 |
Can advocates of secession, especially IPOB tell me which of the problem besetting Nigeria now that is not found in every strata of their local political or social life? Is it corruption? Is it exploitation and oppression of minorities or the weak? Is it nepotism, "clanism", rigging of elections, etc. Go to market associations in the east, these problem are there, go to the universities, the student elections are mostly rigged and the student unions are highly corrupt, even socio political associations like MASSOB are accused of corruption. APGA the Igbo dominated party is mired in corruption allegations and legal quagmire. Even IPOB is not corruption free, try asking Kanu to account for donations he had received over the years. I am certain he would not be able to give account on how the monies was spent. IPOB has escaped scrutiny because they do not have proper structure in place, all people know is a radio host director broadcasting his propaganda. No office or officials to hold accountable. The problem of Nigeria goes beyond breaking it up. 3 Likes |
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by Obdk: 7:07pm On Apr 24, 2017 |
Angel196: Madam abi mister. Ur hypocrisy is on extra afonja level.. U said u couldn't care less then u turn around to give ill thought reasons u dont want it, even quoting another Biafran tormented afonja skull miner to help ur point... Make up your ewedu mind CARE OR DONT we couldn't care less than pummeling ur afonja skulls while we update you on any Biafran positives so we can quicken d sale of d pic below in d waste 1 Like
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Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by deedeedee1: 7:12pm On Apr 24, 2017 |
Obdk:lols!! I know you are not Igbo!! |
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by Obdk: 7:17pm On Apr 24, 2017 |
No Angel196: No Hope. Even in my church since 1996 we ve dis prayer prayer for Nigeria in distress.. Still e no work. Meaning d prophecy is real. 1 Like |
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by Obdk: 7:46pm On Apr 24, 2017 |
mikolo80: Zero sense made
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Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by Obdk: 7:48pm On Apr 24, 2017 |
midol: Baba whr ve u been |
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by Obdk: 7:52pm On Apr 24, 2017 |
mikolo80: People wan make sense dis my yoruba muslim small brother wan win |
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by Obdk: 9:03pm On Apr 24, 2017 |
deedeedee1: Obughi ginwa kam cholu quote Kamnukwa na mu abughi onye Nnewi |
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by Angel196(f): 9:31pm On Apr 24, 2017 |
Obdk: I don't involve myself in discussion with childish insulting people. I never said I didn't want Nigeria to separate but maybe your IQ is too low to deduce it. Quote the statement I made which denotes your claims. I'll not stoop so low into throwing insults with you. |
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by Obdk: 11:02am On Apr 25, 2017 |
Angel196: Make up ur mind. U dont involve urself in discussion with childish insulting people. Yet u want to hold a discussion with wit me. U want me to quote? We kno ur type we ve dealt wit ur type in different shades.... |
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by Angel196(f): 2:25pm On Apr 25, 2017 |
Obdk: I didn't ask you to quote me for my own benefit or because i wanted to have a discussion with you but because I know you wouldn't be able to. So in your own language, quoting a person means having a discussion with him? What a genius!. What a shame you weren't able to anyways. |
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by BudeYahooCom: 2:50pm On Apr 25, 2017 |
All you pseudo-intellectual 'one nigerianists' are only good at deceiving yourself thinking you can 'patch patch' the contraption and make it work. You throw around words like 'restructure' which is very much open to interpretation. I can akso argue that the total break up of the contraption is also a form of 'restructure'. Let everyone who wants to secceed go through a referendum, if the feel that their fortunes will be better outside nigeria, why hold on to them. Is the country a cage? Even animals in the cage have been shown to become sick when caged talk more of humans. Allow people to decide their fate and stop playing god. We have been praying 'Prayer for nigeria in distress and prayer for nigeria against corruption' for more than 30 years in my church. Yet the country deteriorate even worse even passing second. How can you expect to repeat the remedy that never works and expect a different result? Is that not madness? Total dissolution is the hope of humankind within the contraption known today as nigeria. 100% fact. |
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by mikolo80: 7:06pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
Obdk:you don see loser when win before? |
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by mikolo80: 7:07pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
Obdk:can't make sense to a senseless person |
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by caleboxylic: 8:25pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
orisa37: See them. So states created yesterday define boundaries abi ? How are u related to ndoki, eche, omuma, anioma and other igbo speaking people if u are not an Igbo? Next time, say igbo nation and not five states. |
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by orisa37: 8:56pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
caleboxylic: IPOB wants its own boundaries, Nigeria Constitution must respect that. You Devils. |
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by mikolo80: 11:15pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
UncleJudax:who wrote the constitution. Who is implementing it. why didn't pdp probe APC when they were in power. whose fault is that. see my friend if you copy American constitution we will still fumble and womble |
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by mikolo80: 5:16am On Apr 29, 2017 |
ZombieTAMER:and I say you are conquered so your qsn in null and void |
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by mikolo80: 5:25am On Apr 29, 2017 |
jjjjj2017:whose fault, wetin d south de look. from Nzeogwu southerners keep looking for shortcut and playing into northerners hand. na dem say make we mumu? |
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