Empiree:
Exactly. He should not do that. He should say that to himself otherwise people get confused and bida issue is raised. He needs to curb that bcus uninformed people will eventually consider it to be part of the verse. We know already Allah is the One who sends down water according to the rhetorical question of the verse.

If you are close to the Imam, kindly advise him privately with wisdom. And I hope he stops that.

True, he should just keep the utterance to himself, since its not forbiden to make dua or praise God in salat, to avoid controversy. But then, his motive for that should be sought. It could be a weird one

ikupakuti:


True, he should just keep the utterance to himself, since its not forbiden to make dua or praise God in salat, to avoid controversy. But then, his motive for that should be sought. It could be a weird one

Lol...understandable

Empiree:
Lol...understandable

Thanks. I don't think telling him to stop would make any difference. He is the type of Alfa who copies whatever his own Alfa does without understanding the reason behind it. Lol

Jamo90:

#I have a question for everybody, What's your opinion on the Alfas who reads the end of Suratul Mulk during solat قُلْ أَرَءَيْتُمْ إِنْ أَصْبَحَ مَآؤُكُمْ غَوْرًا فَمَن يَأْتِيكُم بِمَآءٍ مَّعِينٍۭ
and adds Allahu robul Allamin?

Some scholars consider it as bidah and bringing in what's not originally in the Quran. What do you all think?

cc ikupakuti Empiree emekaraj

Ha! no put us for trouble here oo, this one na pple wey get special talent in recognizing Bida u go ask ooo

ikupakuti:


Lols Firstly this is ESOTERIC

What I meant is, the verses of the Quran are reaveled in some specific numbers of huruf. Most of these numbers are recycled, some are not. So here, we are dealing strictly with numbers so linguistic properties are of little importance.

For example, the first vs in order of appearance in the Quran is BASMALAH which has 19 huruf. Therefor 19 in this aspect is the first of those specific numbers. This 19 represent all the verses with 19 huruf, they are 116 in total in the Quran. Mind you the 5 ^th & 6 ^th verse in fatiha are also part of them since they also contained 19 huruf.

If we look further, we‘ll realise that the next in order of appearance is 18 being the huruf of the 2 ^nd verse in fatiha & there are a total of 114 of such in the Quran.

So when the verses of the Quran are analized in thus perspective, you‘ll find that the verses of the Quran are revealed in only 235 specific/unique numbers.

Now, the entire solar system does re-adjust @ every 19 tropical (solar) years (which is a cycle in the realm of time) which equals to 235 synodic cycles of the moon.

According to some esoteric laws, those 235 specific numbers & by extention the verses attributed to them (& others) begin to rule immediately revelation comes to completion, which did happened in the last hajj of the holy prophet (saw) in the month of zul hijja, making their dominion to start @ muharram of the succeeding year.

So, when a number (verse/s) activates in its native month, it shall not return to rule again until after 235 synodic month/19 tropical solar years, even then, it would be in another month not in the previous type, since there is no common factor between 19 & 235. Therefor, a specific number(verse/s) shall not repeat in a particular month @ the next return until after 235 lunar yrs which equals 228 tropical solar years.

Amazing things in the Holy Quran...Allahu Akbar

So sir Kuti whats the power of a verse/s in its native month perhaps we can take a clue from you and be reciting also b4 the month ends

emekaRaj:


Ha! no put us for trouble here oo, this one na pple wey get special talent in recognizing Bida u go ask ooo

You mean the -BID‘A Inc. Group-

Bid‘a na their nursery rhyme.

Tlake:


Amazing things in the Holy Quran...Allahu Akbar

So sir Kuti whats the power of a verse/s in its native month perhaps we can take a clue from you and be reciting also b4 the month ends

no no dont let us go there...but then, can you defend the utilization of such method/format for dhikr with proofs from the Quran & sunna ? If you do then, I‘ll tell you.

ikupakuti:


no no dont let us go there...but then, can you defend the utilization of such method/format for dhikr with proofs from the Quran & sunna ? If you do then, I‘ll tell you.

Of course you will go there and still furnish us with that awe inspiring proof from Quran and Sunah that will leave us stupefy. I trust you. Lols

You're more than capable of that, we want to hear it Loud and Clear!

ikupakuti:


no no dont let us go there...but then, can you defend the utilization of such method/format for dhikr with proofs from the Quran & sunna ? If you do then, I‘ll tell you.

hmmmn, omo i no go fit drop proof ,thats for peeps with batini knowledge. . i no reach dat level bt at least i know that lots of verses are used in quran for dhikr and the prophet used some of em like falaq n nas
personally i do zhikr with laizal ha mindunillah ashifa i think from suratul rahman
also Q2 vs285 286
Q6 vs 83 to 90
and only on my birthdays i recite suratul naml verse 19

so i feel there particular verse that can be read on specific date n time ..lol
ready to learn sir or is there anyone else that can drop proof. .shaban go soon end o

I read this online, its interesting

*Umm Reem describes her attempt at exorcism and the conversations that occurred during this experience. Please note that this questions of fiqhi nature may not be addressed, as this was not intended to be a course on the methodology of exorcism. Also, as we all know, the Jinn mix a hundred lies with one truth. So, the mention of the Jinn’s profession of Sikhism/Hinduism faiths could be complete lies, esp. since these faiths do not worship Satan as the Jinn professed. No offense is intended to other faiths as the story is being narrated from what was told to Umm Reem, so she she cannot control what was said or not said to her. Finally, please do not try this at home!*
We read and we believe in every word of Noble Qu’ran and the ahadeeth of the Prophet . We believe, without ever doubting, in all that Qur’an and ahadeeth talks about although we may never witness it. However, sometimes by Allah’s Mercy, we get to experience something further which affirms our faith and satisfies our hearts, and we thank Allah azzawjal for allowing us such an opportunity. It is for this reason that I want to share an incident, hoping that may this be a beneficial and Iman-boosting read for everyone.

During my visit to Pakistan last month, I had the opportunity to read over a ‘possessed’ girl. I will not discuss the details, but my conversation with the jinn, a creation of Allah that we have heard of but never seen, is definitely worth sharing. The conversation was a mixture of Urdu and Punjabi and I tried to be as precise as I can with the translation. This is not the complete conversation, but bits and pieces.

I started of with the adhaan and some recitation from Qur’an until it, or she to be precise, agreed to talk to me. She was a female Jinnee named Seeta who had possessed a Muslim girl for almost 6-7 years. It wasn’t a voluntary possession rather a case of black magic. As advised, I tried to invite her to Islam first. Apparently it was the first time anyone had ever invited her to Islam so she was a little shocked:

Seeta: How can I become a Muslim?

Me: Why not, anyone can become a Muslim.
Seeta: But I am evil and I have done many evil actions.

Me: It’s okay you will be forgiven if you truly repent. My Rabb is the Most forgiving!

Seeta: But I’ve been a Hindu for centuries, I cannot change now.

Me: Sure you can if you truly believe that Islam is the true religion. Why don’t you go around and see. You can travel very fast. Go around and you will find Muslim Jinns of your kind. Talk to them and ask them, they will teach you about this religion.

Seeta: Yes, I know. Their caravans pass by us and we make fun of them.
SubhanAllah, I was truly amazed when she said this. It reminded me of the first ayah of Surah Jinn: “Say (O Muhammad): “It has been revealed to me that a group of jinns listened (to this Qur’an). They said: ‘Verily! We have heard a wonderful Recital (this Qur’an)!” And I pictured a “group” of Jinn and how they still travel in caravans!

Me: Haven’t you seen the angels when you go up on the heavens and tried to listen to their conversations?

Seeta: Yes. They throw stones at us. I’ve been hit by them many times. My right arm was broken because of that!!
My heart skipped a beat. I couldn’t help but pause and just stare at the sky for few seconds. Up above those heavens, stern guards of Allah, the angels, are protecting the skies with meteor (‘stones’ as Seeta said), exactly how it is described in the Qur’an:

“And we have sought to reach the heaven; but found it filled with stern guards and flaming fires. And verily, we used to sit there in stations, to (steal) a hearing, but any who listens now will find a flaming fire watching him in ambush.” (Jinn: 8-9)

“Verily! We have adorned the near heaven with the stars (for beauty).And to guard against every rebellious devil. They cannot listen to the higher group (angels) for they are pelted from every side. Outcast, and theirs is a constant (or painful) torment. Except such as snatch away something by stealing and they are pursued by a flaming fire of piercing brightness.” (Saffat: 6-10)
I swear by Allah, I don’t see a reason why anyone’s eyes will not over flow with tears at this—tears of joy, a feeling of contentment, and a blissful satisfaction. SubhanAllah, a matter of ‘unseen’ was being described by someone who had seen it yet not believed in it, and was describing without realizing the effects it was having on the listener, not only just me but the others around and the ones who will hear it for as long as I shall live.

During our conversation, I learned that she was a Sikh but got married to a Hindu jinn (who died) and she adopted her husband’s religion and she insisted that husband’s religion is wife’s religion (wow talk about obedience to husbands!). But, she tried to cause confusion by insisting that she was an evil dead-soul (‘bad ruh’ the concept of which still confuses many Pakistanis). Previously she had everyone believed that she was an evil dead-soul, but when I rebuked her a few times for lying and told her that she wasn’t dead yet, then finally she confessed.

In any case, she asked me to give her time to think. But when I reminded her of death and the Day of Judgment, she asked the same ‘legendary’ question that why will she get hurt in Hellfire when she is made of fire! At times she also said that she doesn’t want to change her religion. And finally she said what manifested her ‘nature’ and confirmed her reality:

“I know Allah is the Creator but I cannot bow down to him!”
La howla wala quwatta illa billah. Same arrogance, same pride. Didn’t Iblees refuse to make sajdah even though he was certain of Allah being the Creator:

“…Aba wastakbarah…”[And they prostrated except Iblîs (Satan), he refused and was proud and was one of the disbelievers. 2:34]
I told her that she was doing exactly what her ‘master’ Iblees had done, and she replied:

“We are all of the same nature!” iyyadhobillah.
I sat there staring at her thinking to myself that this creation is low in intellect and high in arrogance and so even after seeing the clear Miracles

Continuation......

Miracle of Allah azzawjal and refuses to believe. On the other hand, humans cannot see what these jinns can see, but are blessed with a higher intellect. And perhaps that’s why humanity has more ‘logical’ and ‘reasonable’ proofs with the addition of the living miracle of Qur’an to see the truthfulness of Islam, yet if humans refuse then what good is that intellect which still leads to arrogance and ignorance!

We seek Allah’s refuge from the evil characteristics of arrogance, a trait of shaytaan.

Of the things that she said about Ibless was that he has a throne above the water!

The Messenger of Allah said:

“Iblees placed his throne on water then he sends out his emissaries…” (Muslim, 5023)
She also said that he has told them that he will wear a crown on the Day of Judgment.

He has also promised them of unlimited ‘rewards’. She said,

“Your Rabb has promised you rewards and our Iblees has promised us rewards.”
Surely his promises are nothing but lies, as mentioned in Qur’an:

“And Shaitân (Satan) will say when the matter has been decided: “Verily, Allah promised you a promise of truth. And I too promised you, but I betrayed you. I had no authority over you except that I called you, so you responded to me. So blame me not, but blame yourselves. I cannot help you, nor can you help me. I deny your former act in associating me (Satan) as a partner with Allah (by obeying me in the life of the world). Verily, there is a painful torment for the Zâlimûn (polytheists and wrong-doers, etc.).” (14:22)
And surely he will turn his backs on all those who obeyed him:

“Their allies deceived them) like Shaitân (Satan), when he says to man: “Disbelieve in Allah.” But when (man) disbelieves in Allah, Shaitân (Satan) says: “I am free of you, I fear Allah, the Lord of the ‘Alamîn (mankind, jinns and all that exists)!” (59:16)
She had a particular obsession with Iblees’s beauty and kept repeating how handsome he is, a’oodhobillahi minhu. She also uttered a lot of evil which can only be uttered by someone wicked, and I will not mention it here.

Let me mention that the spell was cast upon the girl out of sheer jealousy and sadly by a very close relative. That day, as I read Surah Falaq upon her and got to the last verse, wAllahi I felt like I was reading it for the first time. It was as if I could ‘understand’ the meanings of it: “And from the evil of the envier when he envies.”

I was able to see what jealousy can cause; I could see the dangers of the one who becomes jealous, iyyadhobillah. That day, I truly appreciated the du’as of protecting oneself from evil eye and jealousy, and the adhkar of day and night.

Let me also state a few things that I had previously learned about jinns, mainly from Bilal Philip’s book and from Sh. Yasir’s Aqeedah class, and were confirmed by talking to Seeta:

She mentioned that if she leaves that girl, then she would want to possess someone else, I asked her the reason and she said:

“Because it is fun and I enjoy bothering people!” a’oodhobiAllah!
She liked attention and perhaps that’s why she was so talkative. However, she was a liar who tried to cause as many confusion as she possibly could.

She had a strong hold on the girl while in the bathroom. To be honest, some of the incidents were quite scary and I won’t even mention them. My sincere advice is to never forget the du’a before entering the bathroom!

To conclude, I have some advice for myself and for everyone else. To have a strong faith in Allah azzawjal and placing one’s tawakkul in Allah alone is a strong weapon against shayateen. If I ever get the permission from this sister, I would like to write about how she was before when the Jinn possessed her and how improving her faith kept weakening the jinn in her.

The beautiful adhkaar and the du’as are indeed a fortress of a believer. To be quite honest, that is the only defense we have against them but it is the fortification if we read with certainty and belief.

LadunaI:


Of course you will go there and still furnish us with that awe inspiring proof from Quran and Sunah that will leave us stupefy. I trust you. Lols

You're more than capable of that, we want to hear it Loud and Clear!

Lols I hear you. You are also on your way down this part you‘ll soon start regaling us with stupifying anectodes.

Wait! You sure say na “coding“ dey hold you since ? Time for submission go close o .

Wow @emeka,

Definitely, these are the type of jinns that precondition human including muslim. Such crazy ones should be avoided 100%. Imagine clear signs she sees herself yet disbelieves. She has the luxury beyond human comprehension to see the beyond but still disbelieve. See why Muslims are definitely paradise bound?. It is not easy to believe what you dont see. Wallahi, muslims really try faah, especially the people of tassawuf. To believe in unseen without seeing them. Allahu Akbar.

No wonder it is difficult for some muslims to believe certain tales of unseen. Imagine this she-jinn with her eyes wide open but still rebels against her Creator?. chai. She is really low on accumen.

Definitely whoever has this as a helper is a loser!

@emekaRaj

Thats beautiful, pls get more

You see ? Destroying human‘s life Just for fun ! Thats why I advocate paralysis for them, nothing like freeing them or any conversion, just render them useless.

i remember the last time i listened to a lecture on the importance of praying b4 entering bathroom, even though i knew it bt i dont mk d dua, on that day i made d dua bt wasnt serious with it when i entered d bathroom,i felt smtn rubbed my head ,first time overlooked d second time it knocked me hard ,ran out with speed dat day i knew God wanted to show me they exist in there...since then i dont joke with it

Empiree:
Wow @emeka,

Definitely, these are the type of jinns that precondition human including muslim. Such crazy ones should be avoided 100%. Imagine clear signs she sees herself yet disbelieves. She has the luxury beyond human comprehension to see the beyond but still disbelieve. See why Muslims are definitely paradise bound?. It is not easy to believe what you dont see. Wallahi, muslims really try faah, especially the people of tassawuf. To believe in unseen without seeing them. Allahu Akbar.

No wonder it is difficult for some muslims to believe certain tales of unseen. Imagine this she-jinn with her eyes wide open but still rebels against her Creator?. chai. She is really low on accumen.

Definitely whoever has this as a helper is a loser!

Dnt be suprise that she disbelieve brother, they have low intelect, so how we see unseen things as important, they see it as normal thing.

Do you knw that among jinns there are atheist too, some said they hav never heard about God, som said they dnt believe in God. So dnt tink becouse they r unseen and a miracle to us wen we see or hear about them, that is automatic reason for them to believe in God or islam, they r really low on intelect. And again they dnt hav the luxury of Quran like us, a jinn can only read Quran from a human holdin it.

ikupakuti:
@emekaRaj

Thats beautiful, pls get more

You see ? Destroying human‘s life Just for fun ! Thats why I advocate paralysis for them, nothing like freeing them or any conversion, just render them useless.

No u have to be nice to them. becouse some of them are force to do it with sihr, so not their fault. That's why sometimes wen u r trying to remove jinns from human body, its hard even if the jinn want leave they cant becouse the sihr they use to put them in humans body is stopping them. Unless the once that voluntarily enter. Except u use a verse to spoil the sihr use to put him their. This one is personal experience.

ikupakuti:
@emekaRaj

Thats beautiful, pls get more

You see ? Destroying human‘s life Just for fun ! That's why I advocate paralysis for them, nothing like freeing them or any conversion, just render them useless.

You wicked oo You may try conversion now to see if it works. I rarely see any cof them onvert when they possess someone. Sheikh Salahuddin Akindele also narrated his experience that a Jinn promised to convert to islam and exit his victim. He took shahada after dawah but refused to leave. Shekh said part of submitting to Allah is not doing evil to another and he should leave in peace. The Jinn rebelled against the SHeikh and Sheikh warned that he would burn.

So sheikh started reciting certain verses and he started burning and left by force. He said "were ni iwo alfa yi o" Lol

Tlake:

Lols

I read in one book of hadith like that, I think its IMAM BAIHAQY‘S where the holy prophet (saw) is reported to have said that “THE WISEST OF ALL PEOPLE ARE THOSE WHO KEEP THE TRACK OF TIME, WITH THE HELP OF THE SUN, THE MOON, THE STARS & THE SHADOWS FOR DOING DHIKR REGULARLY“

...but still this is esoteric, somethings connot be fully explained. So whoever feels @ home with this kind of esoteric theory ( of relations between the word of God & time as I‘ve explained in past posts), here is the info for the next no./verses in line againt next month ramadhan. The next no. in order of appearance after that of this month is 10, meaning all those verses that containg 10 characters only. There are only 59 of them

Pls, if you notice any irregularity, tell. Composed in a hurry.

NB: The 18* in 56 (al waqia) is as it is in WARSH, simply

و كأس من معين

#

Pls dont quote.

emekaRaj:


No u have to be nice to them. becouse some of them are force to do it with sihr, so not their fault. That's why sometimes wen u r trying to remove jinns from human body, its hard even if the jinn want leave they cant becouse the sihr they use to put them in humans body is stopping them. Unless the once that voluntarily enter. Except u use a verse to spoil the sihr use to put him their. This one is personal experience.

I know, i‘m talking about this type, you heard what she said ? That even if she releases her she‘ll still enter another for fun. They cant be trusted one bit.

Empiree:
You wicked oo You may try conversion now to see if it works. I rarely see any cof them onvert when they possess someone. Sheikh Salahuddin Akindele also narrated his experience that a Jinn promised to convert to islam and exit his victim. He took shahada after dawah but refused to leave. Shekh said part of submitting to Allah is not doing evil to another and he should leave in peace. The Jinn rebelled against the SHeikh and Sheikh warned that he would burn.

So sheikh started reciting certain verses and he started burning and left by force. He said "were ni iwo alfa yi o" Lol

They are very mischievious & cannot be trusted.

Ikupakuti

Is khodams and muwakill the same creature?

Can u confirm the name of the khodam of Surat Al-Ikhlas as Syeikh Abdul Wahid?

Am going to send u an email so that u will Tell me wat u tink about a dua

emekaRaj:
Ikupakuti

Is khodams and muwakill the same creature?

Can u confirm the name of the khodam of Surat Al-Ikhlas as Syeikh Abdul Wahid?

Am going to send u an email so that u will Tell me wat u tink about a dua

Yes, they are the same.

ABDUL WAHID, ABDUL SAMAD, ABDUR RAHMAN & ABDUL QUDUS are all khodams of ikhlas & probably others too.

Send it.

ikupakuti:


Yes, they are the same.

ABDUL WAHID, ABDUL SAMAD, ABDUR RAHMAN & ABDUL QUDUS are all khodams of ikhlas & probably others too.

Send it.

I hav sent it

Anyone knows English word for "origi"? It is equivalent to Iru for cooking soup

Empiree:
Anyone knows English word for "origi"? It is equivalent to Iru for cooking soup

it is ogiri not origi and it is called fermented castor beans seed

Raintaker:
it is ogiri not original and it is called fermented castor beans seed

correct. Thanks

Raintaker:
it is ogiri not origi and it is called fermented castor beans seed

You must be an “ijinle“ to know this Ogiri mee de mee de .

Empiree:
Anyone knows English word for "origi" ? It is equivalent to Iru for cooking soup

Lols

Am currently reading an interview an Egyptian had with a jinn, as in eeh this, this is the most revealing story about jinn that hav ever read. Am reading it from an ebook scrbd so i cant copy an paste, i will be written it small small an droping it here. I havnt finish reading it tho.

ikupakuti:

You must be an “ijinle“ to know this Ogiri mee de mee de .


Lols

Lols It was our substitute for iru, when I was serving in Enugu.

emekaRaj:
Am currently reading an interview an Egyptian had with a jinn, as in eeh this, this is the most revealing story about jinn that hav ever read. Am reading it from an ebook scrbd so i cant copy an paste, i will be written it small small an droping it here. I havnt finish reading it tho.

Pls do.

Raintaker:

Lols
It was our substitute for iru, when I was serving in Enugu.

Only used to hear it from my mum when we were young, never seen it before or even knew its related to castor.