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Re: I Am Confused by Rtopzy(f): 7:40pm On May 04, 2017
sodsak:
was jesus man, God,half man, half God,angel? which one exactly bcs i don't know how a person will be part of God
Jesus is the son of God
Re: I Am Confused by OtemAtum: 7:56pm On May 04, 2017
Wilgrea7:
wilgrea7 says that you really need to read the four gospels before saying what you don't know... you really need to check history.. go and research on hell.. you won't agree... you'll come and start preaching faulkin this faulkin that with apo.elohim saying an entirely different thing grin... read the four gospels.. Jesus taught anything but fear.. fear was never a part of his teachings... i believe you have access to the four gospels... sank you
You don't need to preach about fear before people start experiencing it. All you need to tell them is that "if you don't come to me, the son, you shall be cast into hell fire, where the worm does not die and the fire is not quenched." That's psychology my brother. Tell them what they fear and you'll have their souls by so doing:

DOCTUFOS: Eta-ntagba 12:1-3


Chapter Twelve
1. The best way to control the mind of a child is to tell him that a masquerade is coming.
2. The best way to control the minds of adults is to tell them that a god is coming.
3. You shall have the mind of billions of adults by so doing.
Re: I Am Confused by malvisguy212: 8:04pm On May 04, 2017
sodsak:
was jesus man, God,half man, half God,angel? which one exactly bcs ii don't know how a person will be part of God
let me give you an example. how can someone be a demon and then be an human ? he was a fully man and fully demon and both nature are distinct from each other. I saw a demon possess man say he wasnt to kill his wife but after he was deliver ,he deny ever use such word, now why did he deny ? it is because the two nature ( demon and man) are distinct from each other thus he was fully man and fully demon.

so Jesus is fully and fully God. God the son made His dwelling on Jesus the man.
Re: I Am Confused by Wilgrea7(m): 8:07pm On May 04, 2017
OtemAtum:
You don't need to preach about fear before people start experiencing it. All you need to tell them is that "if you don't come to me, the son, you shall be cast into hell fire, where the worm does not die and the fire is not quenched." That's psychology my brother. Tell them what they fear and you'll have their souls by so doing:
ok... please quote anywhere from the four gospels where Jesus said that belief in him is the only way to be saved.. and that by just believing in him... you are saved... and that by not believing in him.. no matter what you did, you would automatically earn a ticket to hell.. please quote... make sure its not a later addition... once again... i beg you... read the four gospels... you would get my point
Re: I Am Confused by OtemAtum: 8:21pm On May 04, 2017
Wilgrea7:
ok... please quote anywhere from the four gospels where Jesus said that belief in him is the only way to be saved.. and that by just believing in him... you are saved... and that by not believing in him.. no matter what you did, you would automatically earn a ticket to hell.. please quote... make sure its not a later addition... once again... i beg you... read the four gospels... you would get my point
If you dont believe in the fictitious character of Eusebius the scribe, you are damned already. Lol grin

Bible: Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God's one and only Son
Re: I Am Confused by Wilgrea7(m): 9:12pm On May 04, 2017
OtemAtum:
If you dont believe in the fictitious character of Eusebius the scribe, you are damned already. Lol grin
grin grin

John 3:18... nice scripture

salvation doesn't come from ‘believing in Jesus'... as o.aroloye would say... it comes from obeying the commandments of Jesus

Luke 10:25 And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 10:26 He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou? 10:27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. 10:28 And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.
notice this??... doesn't this one seem to negate the one you quoted?

Matthew 22:35 Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying, 22:36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 22:38 This is the first and great commandment. 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
forgive my bulky scriptures.. I'm just trying to show you something... the verses in the four gospels saying that you should just believe in Jesus and be saved are way less than and almost insignificant compared to the number of verses which says love for God and man is the overall means by which anyone must be saved... so yes... i have every reason to doubt that just reciting a few words gives me salvation.. like i said yesterday here on this forum, I'm doing an extensive research on it.. the first conclusion I've arrived at is that the Christianity of today is a hell lot different from what Jesus ever intended.. I'll open a thread on it when I'm done with the research... my point is.. saying a simple prayer doesn't save anyone.. I'll stop here as it is not my intention to derail this thread
Re: I Am Confused by Nobody: 4:51am On May 05, 2017
sodsak:
how do you interpret John1:1.... do u mean God Yahweh is evil
Jesus never claimed Yahweh to be his father. The word Yahweh was not found in the entire greek scripture. Jesus spoke of Yahweh as Satan: "You are like your father the devil(Yahweh), for he was a murderer from the beginning and no truth was found in him...". We all know Yahweh to be a liar and a murderer. The similarities between Jesus and Yahweh are few but the differences are much.
Re: I Am Confused by Nobody: 4:56am On May 05, 2017
OtemAtum:
That's not what Faulkin(Zeusus) came to the world to do. Rather, he came to reveal the fire of his god to humanity so that by thinking upon fire as a possible afterlife, it could be possible to come to reality after the thinker's death. Then the writer of the Jesus story in our current world did so for the aim of making humanity add a possible afterlife of fire to their thoughts so that they could experience such illusion after death. But thank Nature that Knoliud the power of God has quenched all evil illusions. Wilgrea7 what have you to say?
Faulkin is not Jesus. Jesus existed before Yahweh and other little gods.
Re: I Am Confused by shadeyinka(m): 8:29am On May 05, 2017
sodsak:
pls help me differentiate btw soul and spirit as u mentioned it in ur comment
Your soul is You.
Your soul is Your Personal Identity..that which you call I or Me or My.
Your soul is the interface between Your Body and Your Spirit.
Your soul is the Center of Your Will, Emotion and Intellect. Our Soul is NOT the Brain. Our Soul is just the interface without which our brain is useless (like a person in comatose). With your Will, you make decisions. With your Emotion, you feel and with your intellect you logically think. Your Physical Senses interface the Physical experiences with your Soul.

Your Spirit is Your Spiritual Identity (equivalent to how your Body is your Physical Identity here on earth).
By your spirit, you are recognized and identified by Angels, Demons and God Himself. We become "Sons" of God not in the Biological Sense but in the Spiritual Sense. Your Spirit make you eternal even though you have a beginning. Your spirit came from God to make you eternal (living soul).

When a person dies, his body is separated from the union of his soul and spirit. He becomes like the Angels who live, but without bodies.
Re: I Am Confused by 4kings: 10:09am On May 05, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
Again my brother , it behooves you prove that Paul was a Gnostic ; repeating that he was ad nauseum does not automatically make him one . But err , let's focus on the topic . You had your chance on that thread .
Are you talking about the thread where you could not figure out any Gnostic misinterpretation, but just kept on saying that i was fixated on a conclusion.
You must be joking... grin
Re: I Am Confused by 4kings: 10:11am On May 05, 2017
Muafrika2:
Not to say he is not divine. He just has ... And knows his place.

(Same goes to KingEbukasBlog )

Whoever call it anything else is expressing their own understanding. This is mine.
Cool...
I hope KingEbukasblog can learn from this.
Re: I Am Confused by Niflheim(m): 1:24pm On May 05, 2017
@sodsak,

Good question!!! Do not bother your little head with "jewish fairytales"!!! They are meaningless, irrelevant, useless and delusional!!!
Re: I Am Confused by OtemAtum: 1:38pm On May 06, 2017
Teensway:
Faulkin is not Jesus. Jesus existed before Yahweh and other little gods.
Prove that Faulkin existed before Yahweh. Yahweh(Nymphidis) been around since billions of years back, with his brothers such as Vishnu, Chimes, Allah, Mazda and Moloch etc. Faulkin(Zeusus) was born and adopted as his son later on. Then he died in Sodom Egypt.


DOCTUFOS: Adspiramen 7:1-21

CHAPTER SEVEN
THE FIRSTBORN OF THE Living Homos

1. Mother Earthus was fed up with the intimidations of Nymphidis(Yahweh) such that she decided to walk far away from him.

2. We, the sons of God, begged her to stay and she obliged. However, I suggested to her that she reduced her pulling force buried in the earth such that its impact does not go too far.

3. Earthus agreed and decreased the impact of the force by two-third such that the impact do not get felt in the second stairs of space.

4. Nymphidis soon began to compel Murmoh to approach Earthus and lie with her (in those days no one had lain with the opposite gender).

5. Murmoh was afraid to do it until Nymphidis convinced him to do it.

6. I heard God the Universewhen he said that this is acceptable to him, Nymphidis said.

7. But he mentioned your name, not Murmoh's name. He said that you should do it, not Murmoh, Chimides defended Murmoh his friend.

8. Yes the great God the Universesaid so, but I feel that since Murmoh has done nothing all his life, then this should be his first feat, Nymphidis said.

9. Now Nymphidis was only clever, for he feared doing it himself.

10. Nymphidis convinced us all into accepting that Murmoh was the right son of God to do that.

11. Murmoh wept and trembled as he entered in with Mother Earthus and slept with her, thereby taking away her long-kept virginity.

12. Murmoh was cold after doing it and he wept as he felt great power had gone out of him. He told it to us and we all laughed.

13. How was the taste of it? Nymphidis asked playfully.

14. I felt I have lost some of my powers, Murmoh complained.

15. What use is power to you, O Murmoh? Nymphidis raised up his voice. You only store power without using them.

16. Murmoh kept silent for a week in sorrow for he felt guilty doing it with Earthus.

17. Earthus soon began to have her womb rise up and we feared that the liquid released into her body by Murmoh was only a poison to her soul.

18. We were all amazed when a giant homo with furs arose. Earthus had given birth.

19. The furs were dark like scarlet and the creature seemed too ugly for our liking. He had some resemblance to Murmoh who was black in complexion too(the only one among us who was having a dark complexion).

20. Thus we had the first homo to be born by flesh and not by the impact of the bang. He is called Faulkin, the firstborn of all creatures.

21. Faulkin was of great stature as he grew. Soon we began to see Mother Earthus' womb rise again after a while.
Re: I Am Confused by Nobody: 2:53pm On May 06, 2017
OtemAtum:
Prove that Faulkin existed before Yahweh. Yahweh(Nymphidis) been around since billions of years back, with his brothers such as Vishnu, Chimes, Allah, Mazda and Moloch etc. Faulkin(Zeusus) was born and adopted as his son later on. Then he died in Sodom Egypt.
Why should i prove it when you yourself could not prove your claim except to quote from a novel that said a god fuc.ked mother earth grin.

Jesus is a spark from the true God. He came from the eternal realm of barbelo. The almighty God is present in every thing in the universe. Everything you see around you have the Almighty God in them.
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