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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 10:07pm On May 04, 2017
Trump: ‘Freedom Is Not a Gift From Government — Freedom Is a Gift From God’

“We remember this eternal truth. Freedom is not a gift from government. Freedom is a gift from God. It was Thomas Jefferson who said the God who gave us life gave us liberty. Our Founding Fathers believed that religious liberty was so fundamental that they enshrined it in the very First Amendment of our great beloved Constitution.”

God Bless This Man.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 11:10pm On May 04, 2017
obixcel:
Trump: ‘Freedom Is Not a Gift From Government — Freedom Is a Gift From God’

“We remember this eternal truth. Freedom is not a gift from government. Freedom is a gift from God. It was Thomas Jefferson who said the God who gave us life gave us liberty. Our Founding Fathers believed that religious liberty was so fundamental that they enshrined it in the very First Amendment of our great beloved Constitution.”

God Bless This Man.
Your American fetish is unbelievable. When are you going to pray for Buhari and Nigeria?.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 5:50am On May 05, 2017
Missy89:


Why do you think health insurance companies should cover pre existing conditions?

I am from Europe. We are used to having a healthcare insurance and access to healthcare regardless of our social or health status. And not only in places like France, the UK, Germany or Netherlands but even in poorer countries.

You, however, despite your patriotism, can let your own people die like homeless dogs.

MAGA!

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 5:54am On May 05, 2017
Lucasbalo:
Gbam.

I cannot believe you fall for this 'freedom to choose' mantra. Freedom is when you can choose to go to the doctor's or not regardless of your financial situation. This 'freedom to choose' mantra is fed to you so that the government does not have to invest anything in the healthcare of their citizens. True patriotism, I tell you.

MAGA

Invest in weapons and bombs and let the poor and less fortunate die like animals.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 6:09am On May 05, 2017
Mindfulness:


I cannot believe you fall for this 'freedom to choose' mantra. Freedom is when you can choose to go to the doctor's or not regardless of your financial situation. This 'freedom to choose' mantra is fed to you so that the government does not have to invest anything in the healthcare of their citizens. True patriotism, I tell you.

MAGA

Invest in weapons and bombs and let the poor and less fortunate die like animals.
I didn't fall for it. The Republican health care that just passed is a give away to the billionaires health care insurance magnates at the expense of low income Americans anf Americans with pre existing ailments. It's gonna cost 24 millions Americans their health insurance and that's acvorfing to Kaiser Foundations and NIH. It's gonna be an Achille Hills on Republicans in 2018.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 6:12am On May 05, 2017
Mindfulness:


I am from Europe. We are used to having a healthcare insurance and access to healthcare regardless of our social or health status. And not only in places like France, the UK, Germany or Netherlands but even in poorer countries.

You, however, despite your patriotism, can let your own people die like homeless dogs.

MAGA!
I sincerely believe that if Singke Payer is good for Canada and European countries, it is good for America. America is the only industrialized country in the world that makes her health care for profit entity. It's a big shame putting profits over human life.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Missy89(f): 10:12am On May 05, 2017
Mindfulness:


I am from Europe. We are used to having a healthcare insurance and access to healthcare regardless of our social or health status. And not only in places like France, the UK, Germany or Netherlands but even in poorer countries.

You, however, despite your patriotism, can let your own people die like homeless dogs.

MAGA!

You keep making the same mistake with your answers.

This is an American political thread not an European one. Things are done differently here.

There is a program for poor Americans to access healthcare before Obamacare with over 600 billion budget ( Medicaid), Medicare for old people and most people that are in the work force get insurance from their employers

Now I would love you to answer my question.
Why do you think insurance companies should cover pre existing conditions?

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Missy89(f): 10:29am On May 05, 2017
Lucasbalo:
I sincerely believe that if Singke Payer is good for Canada and European countries, it is good for America. America is the only industrialized country in the world that makes her health care for profit entity. It's a big shame putting profits over human life.

You claim to work in the finance industry. But you think insurance companies should cover people with pre existing conditions. How are they going to make any money?

Can you buy home insurance the next day after your house burn down? This is extremely straight forward. Business exists to make money.

You end up with a system where healthy people are forced to pay the cost or premiums keep going up

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 10:35am On May 05, 2017
Missy89:


You keep making the same mistake with your answers.

This is an American political thread not an European one. Things are done differently here.

It's not a mistake to compare one system to another.

There is a program for poor Americans to access healthcare before Obamacare with over 600 billion budget ( Medicaid), Medicare for old people and most people that are in the work force get insurance from their employers

Now I would love you to answer my question.
Why do you think insurance companies should cover preexisting conditions?

I have.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 10:36am On May 05, 2017
Lucasbalo:
I sincerely believe that if Singke Payer is good for Canada and European countries, it is good for America. America is the only industrialized country in the world that makes her health care for profit entity. It's a big shame putting profits over human life.

You have nailed it.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 10:36am On May 05, 2017
Lucasbalo:
I didn't fall for it. The Republican health care that just passed is a give away to the billionaires health care insurance magnates at the expense of low income Americans anf Americans with pre existing ailments. It's gonna cost 24 millions Americans their health insurance and that's acvorfing to Kaiser Foundations and NIH. It's gonna be an Achille Hills on Republicans in 2018.

I know you haven't.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 11:07am On May 05, 2017
LordReed:


She has every right to outline contributing factors to her failure even though she takes responsibility, that's how the process of getting better works. Because someone takes responsibility does not require them to ignore external factors.


She is not saying the main truth which is the fact that she is a lying biitch and people do not trust her..

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 11:09am On May 05, 2017
obixcel:
Exactly! Bla bla bla she went on until the ''..........I would be your President'' hahaha What a genius!


she should just remain in the woods. grin

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by LordReed(m): 12:14pm On May 05, 2017
stanech:



She is not saying the main truth which is the fact that she is a lying biitch and people do not trust her..

What has she lied about? Can you compare her failings with Trump's? By any objective standard the sheer volume of Trump's failings should sink a seaworthy ship not to talk of a country.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 12:19pm On May 05, 2017
LordReed:


What has she lied about? Can you compare her failings with Trump's? By any objective standard the sheer volume of Trump's failings should sink a seaworthy ship not to talk of a country.
Where have u being?
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by LordReed(m): 12:20pm On May 05, 2017
obixcel:
Where have u being?
Rhetorical question.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 12:34pm On May 05, 2017
Missy89:


You claim to work in the finance industry. But you think insurance companies should cover people with pre existing conditions. How are they going to make any money?

Can you buy home insurance the next day after your house burn down? This is extremely straight forward. Business exists to make money.

You end up with a system where healthy people are forced to pay the cost or premiums keep going up
That is the problem for your ilks who have to carry the buckets for the billionaires that doesn't give a damn about you. I believe in the good for all over a selected few. There's a difference between Human life and house insurance. Some people were born with pre existing conditions like diabetics. Because they were born with diabetics, does that mean they should not be covered according to you and your heartless party ?. Infact, the new version of the republican healthcare is favorable to my wife and I due to our income scale but I don't want my beloved America to turn to a Third World country where people die of treatable diseases due to lack of insurance. People listening to you spit out your junk probably think you are a millionaire fighting for a good cause that benefits you but you are just carrying buckets for the Uber Rich who doesn't even recognize people like you exist. How come you always bring up my working in the Finance industry ?. Because I work in Finance industry should make me not have a heart for less fortunate Americans ?.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 12:41pm On May 05, 2017
stanech:



she should just remain in the woods. grin
Hillary is a worthy and successful American and she has the right to voice her opinions about her country. It's you and your sidekick that should go back to the woods where you guys came from. Your American fetish is getting very sickening telling Americans what's good for them while you never say a word about the woes befalli Nigeria due to corruption, greed and nepotism.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 12:42pm On May 05, 2017
LordReed:


What has she lied about? Can you compare her failings with Trump's? By any objective standard the sheer volume of Trump's failings should sink a seaworthy ship not to talk of a country.
Absolutely.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 1:05pm On May 05, 2017
Lucasbalo:
Hillary is a worthy and successful American and she has the right to voice her opinions about her country. It's you and your sidekick that should go back to the woods where you guys came from. Your American fetish is getting very sickening telling Americans what's good for them while you never say a word about the woes befalli Nigeria due to corruption, greed and nepotism.


grin Lucas.... so predictable

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 1:12pm On May 05, 2017
stanech:



grin Lucas.... so predictable
It is not. Your fetish is getting sickening. I can understand you trying to kiss the rear of your god trump but tell Hillary an American of substance to go into the woods is appalling. Why don't you move to America and your fetish will be justified. With everything crumbling around you in Nigeria, America is your gravy in life. Hopefully, your lord trump will give you that visa to make your dream comes true
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 1:35pm On May 05, 2017
Lucasbalo:
It is not. Your fetish is getting sickening. I can understand you trying to kiss the rear of your god trump but tell Hillary an American of substance to go into the woods is appalling. Why don't you move to America and your fetish will be justified. With everything crumbling around you in Nigeria, America is your gravy in life. Hopefully, your lord trump will give you that visa to make your dream comes true

I hav'nt made any comment on this topic for almost a month yet I am the fettish one.. Oga you need medical checkup. Something is definitely wrong with you

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 1:42pm On May 05, 2017
stanech:


I hav'nt made any comment on this topic for almost a month yet I am the fettish one.. Oga you need medical checkup. Something is definitely wrong with you
How many comments have you made about Nigeria ?. At least I have a stake in America unlike you that is obsessed about a country that you have zero stake in. That's the difference. You need to have mental evaluation over your obsession about what's not important to your life.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Missy89(f): 2:00pm On May 05, 2017
Lucasbalo:
That is the problem for your ilks who have to carry the buckets for the billionaires that doesn't give a damn about you. I believe in the good for all over a selected few. There's a difference between Human life and house insurance. Some people were born with pre existing conditions like diabetics. Because they were born with diabetics, does that mean they should not be covered according to you and your heartless party ?. Infact, the new version of the republican healthcare is favorable to my wife and I due to our income scale but I don't want my beloved America to turn to a Third World country where people die of treatable diseases due to lack of insurance. People listening to you spit out your junk probably think you are a millionaire fighting for a good cause that benefits you but you are just carrying buckets for the Uber Rich who doesn't even recognize people like you exist. How come you always bring up my working in the Finance industry ?. Because I work in Finance industry should make me not have a heart for less fortunate Americans ?.

Typical rant without any substance. I did not attack you but you can't help your self you are insulting me again and trying to claim moral superiority when your arguments does not make any sense.

Businesses are there to make a profit. Insurance companies make money because the whole point is to take premiums from healthy people and pay their bills or most of it when they need it.

If you want insurance companies to insure sick people and expect premiums to stay low, that is financial ignorance. Why do you think many of them are dropping out of Obamacare, they are not charities they are businesses.

So your whole argument is that a person with diabetes should pay let's say $100 and get the insurance to cover $5000 treatment because you want the company to have mercy. So when the company goes bankrupt and stop covering that person, what will you do next? Billionaires should pay for it?

Your position defies logic.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Missy89(f): 2:06pm On May 05, 2017
Unemployment down to 4.4%. Lowest in a decade. 211k jobs added

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Missy89(f): 2:15pm On May 05, 2017
stanech:



grin Lucas.... so predictable

I am waiting for the day he is going to say this to those who supports his position but do not live in the US. Hypocrisy

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 2:25pm On May 05, 2017
Missy89:


Typical rant without any substance. I did not attack you but you can't help your self you are insulting me again and trying to claim moral superiority when your arguments does not make any sense.

Businesses are there to make a profit. Insurance companies make money because the whole point is to take premiums from healthy people and pay their bills or most of it when they need it.

If you want insurance companies to insure sick people and expect premiums to stay low, that is financial ignorance. Why do you think many of them are dropping out of Obamacare, they are not charities they are businesses.

So your whole argument is that a person with diabetes should pay let's say $100 and get the insurance to cover $5000 treatment because you want the company to have mercy. So when the company goes bankrupt and stop covering that person, what will you do next? Billionaires should pay for it?

Your position defies logic.
It is your position that defies logic. Like I said, US is the only country in the world to have a health for profit business. Infact, I was angling for single payer like the one in Europe, Australia and Canada when ACA was being debated during Obama's time but unfortunately we got hunged up to dry by Republicons. My wife and I premiums went up by almost $7.000 due to ACA but I told my wife it's worth it for millions of Americans to be able to get healthcare. I don't want America to be like Third World countries where people die of Malaria and Thyphoid because they don't have access to good health care. I believe in common good for all over good for few elites. What happens to Children with Type 1 diabetics or children born with Autism?. They can't be covered by insurance because some rich billionaires will lose money. I didn't get a memo that you are a billionaire. The health care bill passed by the Republicons have been denounced by Kaiser Foundation, AHA, NIH and a lot of republican Senators are coming out against it . Plus over 20 million Americans will lose their insurance. I bet that gladdens your souless heart that 24 million Americans will not have access to quality healthcare. Go girl, you deserve a Gold medal for meanness.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 2:41pm On May 05, 2017
Missy89:


Typical rant without any substance. I did not attack you but you can't help your self you are insulting me again and trying to claim moral superiority when your arguments does not make any sense.

Businesses are there to make a profit. Insurance companies make money because the whole point is to take premiums from healthy people and pay their bills or most of it when they need it.

If you want insurance companies to insure sick people and expect premiums to stay low, that is financial ignorance. Why do you think many of them are dropping out of Obamacare, they are not charities they are businesses.

So your whole argument is that a person with diabetes should pay let's say $100 and get the insurance to cover $5000 treatment because you want the company to have mercy. So when the company goes bankrupt and stop covering that person, what will you do next? Billionaires should pay for it?

Your position defies logic.
Lol He's now an advocate for the socialist

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 2:44pm On May 05, 2017
Missy89:


I am waiting for the day he is going to say this to those who supports his position but do not live in the US. Hypocrisy

Never...

Classic liberal zombies...They hate any opinion that is different from theirs but claim republicans are stupiid..

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 2:46pm On May 05, 2017
obixcel:
Lol He's now an advocate for the socialist
You shut your trap. I am a capitalist to the core . I don't want America to turn to Nigeria where women die during childbirth or where people die from malaria. What do yo know about health care. You are just a compound fool that have to mouth off about things you have no clue about. My family have the best insurance money can buy but I am not worried about myself. I believe in the general good for all over few people. That's the problem with Nigeria where your elites can travel abroad for good medical care while people like you die of treatable diseases. Go get a life cave man.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Missy89(f): 2:46pm On May 05, 2017
Lucasbalo:
It is your position that defies logic. Like I said, US is the only country in the world to have a health for profit business. Infact, I was angling for single payer like the one in Europe, Australia and Canada when ACA was being debated during Obama's time but unfortunately we got hunged up to dry by Republicons. My wife and I premiums went up by almost $7.000 due to ACA but I told my wife it's worth it for millions of Americans to be able to get healthcare. I don't want America to be like Third World countries where people die of Malaria and Thyphoid because they don't have access to good health care. I believe in common good for all over good for few elites. What happens to Children with Type 1 diabetics or children born with Autism?. They can't be covered by insurance because some rich billionaires will lose money. I didn't get a memo that you are a billionaire. The health care bill passed by the Republicons have been denounced by Kaiser Foundation, AHA, NIH and a lot of republican Senators are coming out against it . Plus over 20 million Americans will lose their insurance. I bet that gladdens your souless heart that 24 million Americans will not have access to quality healthcare. Go girl, you deserve a Gold medal for meanness.


US is the only country in the world to have a health for profit business yet it is one of the top destination for medical tourist from Europe with all their healthcare.

There is nobody dying of Malaria or Typhoid in America. So if you can afford 7,000 in premiums what is your solution for those who cant afford it?

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Missy89(f): 2:47pm On May 05, 2017
obixcel:
Lol He's now an advocate for the socialist

confirmed socialist.

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