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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 12:24am On May 16, 2017
Missy89:
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No time for stupidity this week. Let me know what you have something interesting to say.
I don't have time for fugly. Bye.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 1:40am On May 16, 2017
Missy89:


True.
As president, Trump has broad authority to declassify government secrets, making it unlikely that his disclosures broke the law. That is if the story is true in the first place.

One wonders just what kind of soldier you must have been . Your commander in chief is jeopardizing the security of the US, and you are still making excuses. They clearly do not make soldiers the way they used to anymore. You probably hold Mike Flynn, a paid traitor, in high regard.


Who needs an email server when you have a dyed in the wool traitor in the White House?

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Missy89(f): 2:23am On May 16, 2017
oyb:


One wonders just what kind of soldier you must have been . Your commander in chief is jeopardizing the security of the US, and you are still making excuses. They clearly do not make soldiers the way they used to anymore. You probably hold Mike Flynn, a paid traitor, in high regard.


Who needs an email server when you have a dyed in the wool traitor in the White House?


my post was directly quoted out of the same Wapo (verbatim) article that wrote the story. So what are you wailing about?

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 2:32am On May 16, 2017
oyb:


One wonders just what kind of soldier you must have been . Your commander in chief is jeopardizing the security of the US, and you are still making excuses. They clearly do not make soldiers the way they used to anymore. You probably hold Mike Flynn, a paid traitor, in high regard.


Who needs an email server when you have a dyed in the wool traitor in the White House?
Gbam. The same day the WH put out four different stories about the firing of Comey, the clown in the Oval Office was meeting with Russian Foreign Minister and Ambassador to US and he was leaking American Secrets to Russia. Any sane person will know that trump is a stooge of Russia and that's why he won't release his taxes so we won't know the extent of the Russian oligarchs funding his businesses. Only mentally disturbed people can't find the hypocrisy in the worthless one.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 3:20am On May 16, 2017
https://secure.politico.com/story/2017/05/15/trump-russia-classified-information-238417

n a span of 24 hours last week, President Trump startled his senior aides by firing the FBI director investigating his campaign's Russian ties and allegedly disclosing highly classified information to Russian officials in a free-wheeling Oval Office conversation.

Trump, according to people who spoke with him, was taken aback by the backlash to the firing and unfazed by the conversation with Russia's foreign minister and ambassador.

As Trump eyes a reorganization of his senior staff and blames a range of misfires on former President Barack Obama, warring White House aides, an ineffective communications shop, the "failing" news media, members of Congress and others, the latest episodes reveal what senior aides and advisers privately say: The problems often come from the top.

"It never stops," one White House official said via text message Monday night. "Basically chaos at all times."

The episode regarding classified information, which allegedly occurred last Wednesday in the Oval Office, was first reported by The Washington Post and sent his White House again in crisis control mode, days ahead of his first foreign trip. Aides had sought a calm week to avoid a widespread staff shake-up, which a displeased Trump has groused about to advisers and associates for the past four days. Earlier Monday, several officials said they were scrambling behind the scenes to appease Trump and avoid any seismic moves ahead of the trip.

The lengthy Washington Post report said Trump shared information about Islamic State operations with Russia that was "highly classified" and obtained through an intelligence-sharing partner that had not given the United States permission to share the information. While his conduct did not likely break the law — presidents can declassify information when they choose — it struck current and former U.S. intelligence officials as highly unusual.

"I get great intel," Trump bragged to the Russian officials, according to the Washington Post, before sharing it.

White House officials sent out a range of statements disputing the story, including ones from Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and national security adviser H.R. McMaster. "This story is false," read a statement from Dina Powell, a deputy national security adviser who attended the meeting.


She didn't explain what was false about the story, and McMaster also did not address many aspects of the report as he briefly addressed reporters, without taking questions.

“The story that came out tonight as reported is false,” McMaster said. "At no time, at no time were intelligence sources or methods discussed and the president did not disclose any military operations that were not already publicly known."

Tillerson, in his statement, said, "During President Trump’s meeting with Foreign Minister Lavrov a broad range of subjects were discussed among which were common efforts and threats regarding counter-terrorism. During that exchange the nature of specific threats were discussed, but they did not discuss sources, methods or military operations.”

A spokesman for the National Security Council did not respond to a request for comment.

But several advisers and others close to Trump said they wouldn't be surprised if Trump gave information he shouldn't have.

One adviser who often speaks to the president said the conversation was likely freewheeling in the Oval Office, and he probably wanted to impress the officials.

"He doesn't really know any boundaries. He doesn't think in those terms," this adviser said. "He doesn't sometimes realize the implications of what he's saying. I don't think it was his intention in any way to share any classified information. He wouldn't want to do that."


At the White House, reporters crowded outside White House press secretary Sean Spicer's office, as his door remained closed. Before long, principal deputy press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders stepped out from the hallway near the Oval Office to inform the waiting reporters that the White House would be delivering no additional comment Monday night and would not be taking any questions.

“Tonight we are not doing any other question and answering at this moment,” she said. “I’ve said all we’re going to say.”

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 3:30am On May 16, 2017
oyb:
https://secure.politico.com/story/2017/05/15/trump-russia-classified-information-238417




Amateurs in charge of America . Trump is his own worst enemy and there's no one in his inner circle that can boldly tell him the truth. He's a black spot on a beautiful country and his days are numbered. I am believing some people that says that he's not really interested in the office. How can a President be this worthless ?. It's one scandal after another and he hasn't been in office for six months. A shame to be called American President.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by schwarzkopf(m): 4:17am On May 16, 2017
LordReed:


Easy to work around, he'll just say he has declassified it.

To all em saying the declassified line, you don't do that by revealing it to Russian diplomats.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 6:36am On May 16, 2017
It may be legal but it was wrong nonetheless for Trump to share the info if he did.

However, the original report did not suggest Trump had discussed sources and methods. The allegation is that Trump shared some information about laptops on planes which potentially put a source at risk and was given to the US by an ally who did not give consent for that to be shared with Russia.

MAGA

=

Morons are governing America

grin

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 6:39am On May 16, 2017
oyb:


One wonders just what kind of soldier you must have been . Your commander in chief is jeopardizing the security of the US, and you are still making excuses. They clearly do not make soldiers the way they used to anymore. You probably hold Mike Flynn, a paid traitor, in high regard.


Who needs an email server when you have a dyed in the wool traitor in the White House?

They were trained to obey and drop their conscience and free will so no surprise here.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by LordReed(m): 8:15am On May 16, 2017
Missy89:


True.
As president, Trump has broad authority to declassify government secrets, making it unlikely that his disclosures broke the law. That is if the story is true in the first place.

And if the story is true sets this up as one of the end goals of the Russian programme to interfere with the election; a steady flow of classified information from none other than the President. Even if you disagree that Trump is a Russian stooge at the minimum it sets a dangerous precedent were a sitting President can disclose state secrets wily nily with no repercussions simply because he has broad powers.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 11:02am On May 16, 2017
Trump receives Russian diplomats (spies) in the oval office
They are accompanied by Russian state press
They take photos
American media are screened out.
While there trump brags about classified information to these spies and Russian gov't press.

No one else was there, so who knows how many bugs are now in the oval office.


This apprentice American lunatic strong man edition is off the hizzle!

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 11:42am On May 16, 2017
Snowden has given serious information to China and Russia-anyone who thinks otherwise is a dope! He is a traitor who fled-he knew the crime!
Trump, 11 Jul 2013


Call it any way you like, but Snowden is a traitor. When our country was great do you know what we did to traitors?
Trump, 27 Jun 2013

Crooked Hillary Clinton and her team "were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information." Not fit!
Trump, 6 Jul 2016

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 1:10pm On May 16, 2017
Mindfulness:


They were trained to obey and drop their conscience and free will so no surprise here.
They were not trained like that. She's just an anomaly.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 1:17pm On May 16, 2017
Mindfulness:
Snowden has given serious information to China and Russia-anyone who thinks otherwise is a dope! He is a traitor who fled-he knew the crime!
Trump, 11 Jul 2013


Call it any way you like, but Snowden is a traitor. When our country was great do you know what we did to traitors?
Trump, 27 Jun 2013

Crooked Hillary Clinton and her team "were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information." Not fit!
Trump, 6 Jul 2016
Imagine a President of US meeting with a German Leader ( Angela Merkel) and he wouldn't shake her hand but was all lovey dovey with Russian Foreign Minister and Ambassador . American media were banned from the meeting in the WH while Russia media were allowed in hence the smiling pictures of the traitor that came out. Tell me if that's not a stooge doing his masters bidding. No president in American history will divulge a classified info to Russia but the lapdogs supporting trump will never see anything wrong in him. How can any sane and rational being not believe that the clueless one in the Oval Office is a Russian stooge.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by TheShopKeeper(m): 3:29pm On May 16, 2017
Since no US press or photographers were allowed in the meeting between WH and the Kremlin, the story was leaked out by US officials who were present at the meeting with the Russians - look no further than the Secretary of State, NSA Director, Deputy NSA or even the Russian press....

This is definetely a seriuos issue for the US Intelligence community, if their C-I-C is a blabber mouth.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 3:40pm On May 16, 2017
TheShopKeeper:
Since no US press or photographers were allowed in the meeting between WH and the Kremlin, the story was leaked out by US officials who were present at the meeting with the Russians - look no further than the Secretary of State, NSA Director, Deputy NSA or even the Russian press....

This is definetely a seriuos issue for the US Intelligence community, if their C-I-C is a blabber mouth.
The classified info could be passed to Syria, Iran and other States that are enemies of America . That's the reason why the clueless trump is being criticized by both sides of the aisle. It's not a partisan issue, it's a national security blunder.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by TheShopKeeper(m): 3:44pm On May 16, 2017
Missy89:


True.
As president, Trump has broad authority to declassify government secrets, making it unlikely that his disclosures broke the law. That is if the story is true in the first place.

My friend, kindly read the article below, it's not a laughing matter at all. What President Trump did is very a serious issue within the Intelligence Community and an European Intel community ain't particularly happy.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-russia-classified-intelligence-information-leak-european-country-stop-sharing-threat-a7738846.html

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 3:45pm On May 16, 2017
Lucasbalo:
Imagine a President of US meeting with a German Leader ( Angela Merkel) and he wouldn't shake her hand but was all lovey dovey with Russian Foreign Minister and Ambassador . American media were banned from the meeting in the WH while Russia media were allowed in hence the smiling pictures of the traitor that came out. Tell me if that's not a stooge doing his masters bidding. No president in American history will divulge a classified info to Russia but the lapdogs supporting trump will never see anything wrong in him. How can any sane and rational being not believe that the clueless one in the Oval Office is a Russian stooge.

I would guess Merkel was rather glad he did not. Who knows whose pvssy he grabbed beforehand. lipsrsealed grin

Targeting the media is the tool of dictators. Are people really so stupid not to know it?
He welcomed the media controlled by the Russian government but banned US media? And people do not find it worth protesting?

I would much rather have biased media, left and right leaning, than have no free media at all, which is one of the pillars of a democracy. I wonder how people cannot know it and I wonder how Americans will shout FREEDOM and in the next breath support Trump in his battle against the freedom of the press.


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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 3:47pm On May 16, 2017
TheShopKeeper:
Since no US press or photographers were allowed in the meeting between WH and the Kremlin, the story was leaked out by US officials who were present at the meeting with the Russians - look no further than the Secretary of State, NSA Director, Deputy NSA or even the Russian press....

This is definetely a seriuos issue for the US Intelligence community, if their C-I-C is a blabber mouth.

Since the media was excluded, people will have to rely on he said, she said. This is what you get when you fight yourself by fighting the freedom of the press. Only dictators go against the freedom of the press.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by TheShopKeeper(m): 4:12pm On May 16, 2017
https://twitter.com/RebeccaShabad/status/864487628506357760/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.independent.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fworld%2Famericas%2Fus-politics%2Ftrump-russia-classified-intelligence-information-leak-european-country-stop-sharing-threat-a7738846.html
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by TheShopKeeper(m): 4:32pm On May 16, 2017
Another tweet message about the Intel story:

https://twitter.com/williamlegate/status/864293524002398209
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 4:59pm On May 16, 2017
Mindfulness:


I would guess Merkel was rather glad he did not. Who knows whose pvssy he grabbed beforehand. lipsrsealed grin

Targeting the media is the tool of dictators. Are people really so stupid not to know it?
He welcomed the media controlled by the Russian government but banned US media? And people do not find it worth protesting?

I would much rather have biased media, left and right leaning, than have no free media at all, which is one of the pillars of a democracy. I wonder how people cannot know it and I wonder how Americans will shout FREEDOM and in the next breath support Trump in his battle against the freedom of the press.




Trump's approval rating is going down the sewage that it belongs to. I said it during the campaign that trump was a typical New York two bit hustler and people thought I was making it up. Tell me a so called Billionaire that will scam hard working Americans with a useless Fake, Unacreddited and Worthless Trump University ?. When the pressure gets to him, he had to settle with $25 million . Americans are waking up to the Queen born scam artist and I am Begining to smell the end of his regime. It's one scandal after another and the clown hasn't been in office for six months. Imagine if Obama is this scandalous when he was president ?. The Republicons will be pulling their hairs out crying for impeachment.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 5:01pm On May 16, 2017
Mindfulness:


Since the media was excluded, people will have to rely on he said, she said. This is what you get when you fight yourself by fighting the freedom of the press. Only dictators go against the freedom of the press.
Absolutely on point and all of a sudden, the orange lipped lapdogs are in hibernation.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 6:04pm On May 16, 2017
Lucasbalo:
Trump's approval rating is going down the sewage that it belongs to. I said it during the campaign that trump was a typical New York two bit hustler and people thought I was making it up. Tell me a so called Billionaire that will scam hard working Americans with a useless Fake, Unacreddited and Worthless Trump University ?. When the pressure gets to him, he had to settle with $25 million . Americans are waking up to the Queen born scam artist and I am Begining to smell the end of his regime. It's one scandal after another and the clown hasn't been in office for six months. Imagine if Obama is this scandalous when he was president ?. The Republicons will be pulling their hairs out crying for impeachment.

FOR SURE!

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by LordReed(m): 6:33pm On May 16, 2017
TheShopKeeper:
Since no US press or photographers were allowed in the meeting between WH and the Kremlin, the story was leaked out by US officials who were present at the meeting with the Russians - look no further than the Secretary of State, NSA Director, Deputy NSA or even the Russian press....

This is definetely a seriuos issue for the US Intelligence community, if their C-I-C is a blabber mouth.
[s]
It was not leaked by US officials it was broadcasted by the Russian press. It even caught US officials by surprise.[/s]

EDIT: On second thoughts I think I mistook your statement as referencing the picture debacle. Sorry.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 6:41pm On May 16, 2017
LordReed:


It was not leaked by US officials it was broadcasted by the Russian press. It even caught US officials by surprise.
The plot thickens.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by LordReed(m): 6:45pm On May 16, 2017
Trump has confirmed via Twitter that he shared information​ with Russia, information that had not yet been shared with America's allies. SMH

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 6:56pm On May 16, 2017
http://theresurgent.com/i-know-one-of-the-sources/


I Know One of the Sources
By Erick Erickson | May 16, 2017, 09:49am | @ewerickson

I tend to take these stories about the President with a grain of salt. We have seen key details of a number of salacious stories retracted within 48 hours. The media hates the President so much that they’ll run a negative story about him without very much provocation. Anti-Trump sources embedded within the administration in the career civil service, etc. will leak to the press and confirmation bias sets in.

What sets this story apart for me, at least, is that I know one of the sources. And the source is solidly supportive of President Trump, or at least has been and was during Campaign 2016. But the President will not take any internal criticism, no matter how politely it is given. He does not want advice, cannot be corrected, and is too insecure to see any constructive feedback as anything other than an attack.

So some of the sources are left with no other option but to go to the media, leak the story, and hope that the intense blowback gives the President a swift kick in the butt. Perhaps then he will recognize he screwed up. The President cares vastly more about what the press says than what his advisers say. That is a real problem and one his advisers are having to recognize and use, even if it causes messy stories to get outside the White House perimeter.

I am told that what the President did is actually far worse than what is being reported. The President does not seem to realize or appreciate that his bragging can undermine relationships with our allies and with human intelligence sources. He also does not seem to appreciate that his loose lips can get valuable assets in the field killed.

You can call these sources disloyal, traitors, or whatever you want. But please ask yourself a question — if the President, through inexperience and ignorance, is jeopardizing our national security and will not take advice or corrective action, what other means are available to get the President to listen and recognize the error of his ways?

This is a real problem and I treat this story very seriously because I know just how credible, competent, and serious — as well as seriously pro-Trump, at least one of the sources is.


trump has found his hearts desire and has found despair
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by schwarzkopf(m): 10:35pm On May 16, 2017
Ny times breaking news: Trump asked comey to end Flynn probe. One day one goof... This administration is an emotional drain on Americans.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 11:26pm On May 16, 2017
schwarzkopf:
Ny times breaking news: Trump asked comey to end Flynn probe. One day one goof... This administration is an emotional drain on Americans.
Trump is a gift for his detractors. We knew all this garbage about him before the election and we were warning people but electoral votes did us in. Nothing about President Clueless amazes me anymore . He will regret picking a fight with the American press. Nixon who was 100* smarter than him did during the Watergate and he regretted it. Trump is self destructing in a way never seen before in American presidential history.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Missy89(f): 1:16am On May 17, 2017
Pence: My plan is almost complete

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