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spacetacular:
Word of advice sir. Sit down and work on bringing your imaginary claim of being a doctor to reality. Work and study hard. Enrol into a medical school or college and start the process. Fantasizing about what you are not does not make you become that thing. work work and more work. Enough of quackery. Accept your quackery but move on from there and become better and real.

Cheers

That awesome moment when a paramedic is giving a doctor advice.
You're hilarious, man.
You're asking for specialty yet refuse to state your degree and where you did your residency. Hypcrite much?

CatfishBilly:
She already claimed a specialty, so, the questions are just icing on the cake. But she won't answer them, cos she's not a surgeon.
Have you even googled what a paramedic is to see why she can't be a surgeon?

You are not under any obligation to tell your specialty, yet you insists she answers your questions?
Na wa for you oo.

spacetacular:
I am done.

Sure, run along with your tail between your legs,
Bloody paramedic.

spacetacular:
Word of advice sir. Sit down and work on bringing your imaginary claim of being a doctor to reality. Work and study hard. Enrol into a medical school or college and start the process. Fantasizing about what you are not does not make you become that thing. work work and more work. Enough of quackery. Accept your quackery but move on from there and become better and real.

Cheers

This is also from the website you posted.
https://www.rcseng.ac.uk/patient-care/surgical-staff-and-regulation/qualifications-of-a-surgeon/#Qualifications
Trauma surgeon without FRCS. QUACK, that's what you are.

analice107:
You want to divert attention to another issue.

Do you ever make sense?

It's not aged and wrinkled lady, that's the crux here. So stay off.

analice107:
I followed.....
Pls, tell the truth.

I followed the investigations and reports closely especially the part 2 from 2012/2013. I heard the testimony of the Kenya girl, I believe she is strong despite all the humiliating circumstance she was exposed to and also found Pastor Joe is a good man all the same. I have seen others who were never cured packaged as though they were in clips and marketable formats, only for them to abandon their medications and die afterwards. A lady I know very well died in such circumstance after visiting Synagogue of Nations and coming back with I am healed certificate presented on live T.V.

I don't know how many of Nigerian Stage Performers whose videos of miracles will stand if subjected to the kind of thorough investigation of authenticity undertaken by Sir John in 2008. We were often made to believe the well edited scripts from the Miracle and Gospel Merchants, while hailing, adoring and some worshipping these Prophets based on the displays they feed the public .

hopefulLandlord:
bro, I'm not here to debate which one is more plausible than the other

my question was very simple "Can this be staged?" and the answer is yes! any honest person would answer yes to the above..... forget all these semantics bro

So, the man kept himself manacled for a long period of time, got injured by chains, got healed over and over and be taken to church just because he wanted to help the pastor lie?

Na wa for you sha o.

CatfishBilly:
See, it is very simple, I am not asking you for whichever body you belong is affiliated to, it's a simple question, are you a Fellow of the Royal College of Surgeons? Every Surgeon trained in the UK is one, they all have FRCS attached to their names. If your were a surgeon, your name would read Dr Spacetacular FRCS.
But, it's too hard for you, you're not a fellow, so you can't be a surgeon.

Let me step down a bit, which degree did you graduate with? MD or MBBS?
You went to EMT school, you're never a doctor.

Chai bros, you want to turn the table around. Now you want to be the one asking the questions when you couldn't answer just one of hers. Atheists and Muslims have the same.spirit

spacetacular:
Kid its medications but i know you love spitting medical jargon as you attempt to buttress your fake medical doctor claim. By the way the Royal college of surgeons no longer have fellows. We have membership so its no longer FRCS its now MRCS and i am overly qualified to be a member.

What is your medical specialty?

So you know pharmacology is simply a study of drug interaction. We do not study, we administer. Again you show your medical ineptitude.

Chai. This is so wicked.

analice107:
Chai bros, you want to turn the table around. Now you want to be the one asking the questions when you couldn't answer just one of hers. Atheists and Muslims have the same.spirit

And as well Christians

Lookin forward to that day on NL a cobler (aka shoe maker/shoe shiner) will claim he Sabi work pass me, a carpenter just because we both share/use/have in common nails and hammer in our profession.....


Kai, I just dae wait for that day

adepeter26:
Lookin forward to that day on NL a cobler (aka shoe maker/shoe shiner) will claim he Sabi work pass me, a carpenter just because we both share/use/have in common nails and hammer in our profession.....


Kai, I just dae wait for that day

No mind her, them dey check for apnea under the nail bed for her Paramedic school.

ilynem:
She needs to know she can place on leg on Linda and another leg on Seun. It's not hard.

She won't. If that one comes here, most of them will run off, just like some will start running from now.

Welcome to Nairaland Dr Spacestacular.

spacetacular:
I am done.

You did very well. From now on, this lot will know better than to claim what they are not.

akintom:
Do you ever make sense?

It's not aged and wrinkled lady, that's the crux here. So stay off.

Only people with low self esteem run to insults with the hope of putting the opponent off. But i won't come to your level. You are an urchin.

Topgainer:
I followed the investigations and reports closely especially the part 2 from 2012/2013. I heard the testimony of the Kenya girl, I believe she is strong despite all the humiliating circumstance she was exposed to and also found Pastor Joe is a good man all the same. I have seen others who were never cured packaged as though they were in clips and marketable formats, only for them to abandon their medications and die afterwards. A lady I know very well died in such circumstance after visiting Synagogue of Nations and coming back with I am healed certificate presented on live T.V.

I don't know how many of Nigerian Stage Performers whose videos of miracles will stand if subjected to the kind of thorough investigation of authenticity undertaken by Sir John in 2008. We were often made to believe the well edited scripts from the Miracle and Gospel Merchants, while hailing, adoring and some worshipping these Prophets based on the displays they feed the public .

I don't know about these other ones, but did PadtorJoe stage that miracle or the man deceived him with the motive of living off him?

analice107:
You did very well. From now on, this lot will know better than to claim what they are not.

If by that, you're referring to me, I dropped my medical degree, listed all the countries that I'm licensed to practice, what did she drop?
Common Medical degree she no drop, no proof whatsoever to back up her claims of a trauma surgeon and you still swallow everything she says because she's a theist like you abi? Make una continue ooo

adepeter26:
He's a receptionist... Are you satisfied?

A receptionist who is indeed a receptionist is deserving of honour than a usurper.

What happened here is evident that, people can claim to be what they are not until proven otherwise.

This is the second thread that this has happened.

In the other thread, Catfish was schooled on his home ground and here again. Hmmmm.

analice107:
A receptionist who is indeed a receptionist is deserving of honour than a usurper.

What happened here is evident that, people can claim to be what they are not until proven otherwise.

This is the second thread that this has happened.

In the other thread, Catfish was schooled on his home ground and here again. Hmmmm.

You really need to check your definition of schooled.
Really. Me, claim?
Your sister in the Lord has offered no proof to back up her claim oo.

CatfishBilly:
If by that, you're referring to me, I dropped my medical degree, listed all the countries that I'm licensed to practice, what did she drop?
Common Medical degree she no drop, no proof whatsoever to back up her claims of a trauma surgeon and you still swallow everything she says because she's a theist like you abi? Make una continue ooo

Proof that you indeed backed those degrees.

I can claim to be the most prolific poet Africa has ever produced, if i don't mention the poems i have written, how will the world know if the poems am claiming are written by Tunde Osofisun Or John Milton?

She only asked one question, only one for the whole time.

analice107:
I don't know about these other ones, but did PastorJoe stage that miracle or the man deceived him with the motive of living off him?

Somehow both are complicit because one rushed to produce a video (which many believed was a miracle to the glory of god) and crossed his chest he was a miracle conveyor, so sure he accepted a bait for it to be investigated. Investigation was done and it was found a healing/cure never took place.

The other felt used for the glory of it all and decided to have his cut of glory in form of cash. What we don't know is if this character has been involved in posing for healings with some other Pastors before this incidence.

If indeed you are a paramedic or doctor, this right here illustrates that dull people do indeed pass medical licencing exams. Nothing more.

spacetacular:
ouch Mr fish did I rub you the wrong way? I apologize though. However I would rather trust anyone with close to a decade of professional medical field experience and who is attached to 17 emergency hospitals on my route than anyone whose focus is on medical journals alone even after I showed you how medical journals lie and bend the truth always. Without verification, nothing written in any medical journal is credible. How many contents of the medical journals you keep talking about have you personally tried, checked and found true for yourself?


The Autoresuscitation you mentioned elsewhere is one of such. What mechanism have you applied that worked and proved autoresuscitation to be a medically achievable reality?

You mentioned spontaneous remission for cancer patients as being caused by their immune system finally kicking in. Please what medical school did you graduate from?

If I may ask especially since you claim to be a medical doctor despite your medical ignorance can you tell me your medical specialty?

analice107:
A receptionist who is indeed a receptionist is deserving of honour than a usurper.

What happened here is evident that, people can claim to be what they are not until proven otherwise.

I know what sprung up the whole issue.... It's a secret which I can't disclose on a public forum.

This is the second thread that this has happened.

ME just dae wait for my own day.... Doctor VS Paramedics.
My own will be carpenter vs cobler..

In the other thread, Catfish was schooled on his home ground and here again. Hmmmm.

He was never schooled about his profession..
They both had conflicting ideas which resulted into a CHRISTIAN vs ATHEIST argument (superficially) which later ended in I SABI PASS YOU (which I call, brain pass brain)...

analice107:
She won't. If that one comes here, most of them will run off, just like some will start running from now.

Welcome to Nairaland Dr Spacestacular.

This stupid form of hailing will only make her fall.........

Point of correction, she's not a doctor(in field) and do respect the profession and title as well

TheEminentLaity:
If indeed you are a paramedic or doctor, this right here illustrates that dull people do indeed pass medical licencing exams. Nothing more.

I told this Ms Specetacular not to stick out her neck to validate the theatrics of Nigerian Prophets with whatever she is professing to be. From experience, it is safer to take the acts of these stage showmen with a pinch of salt. Some of us, have been in this observation business for a while and know that the videos you place your reputation to defend as true may turnout staged and false.

Is it you or is it the kind of training you got because I'm puzzled. Are you a paramedic in homeopathy?

spacetacular:
You meant to say medical journal knowledge and not educational knowledge in verified medicine as a practitioner. You say you are better qualified yet wrongly diagnosed anoxia as hypoxia and I corrected you.

Dr Fish why are you finding it hard to tell me your medical specialty?

TheEminentLaity:
Is it you or is it the kind of training you got because I'm puzzled. Are you a paramedic in homeopathy?

You know what Bro? They are both good. (I mean both parties).

Madam of all Profession was making her points based on experience (long)
While Billy was making his own points based on short time experience and medical school Theories. If billy were to be in the profession for quite the period of time or close as compared to Madam all Profession, they would have understood each other better...

Long time experience and long time theories are two different things.....
If Billy was to go deep into theories, trust me, the so called Paramedics will keep quiet.
And if madam too starts to use experience and events she have encountered, Billy as well will get lost...

Billy failed to realised Madam was talking based on long term experience and what she knew.....

spacetacular:
So far I have been the only one who declared I am an emergency medical specialist with emphasis on traumatology which gives a license to be a traumatologist and a trauma surgeon which I have been for 9 years. 3 years In an emergency hospital and my desire to do more made me enrol for field service in EMT as a paramedic of which I have been one for 6 years.

Psychoanalysing spacetacular

*she claimed been a trauma surgeon for 3 years

*she also claimed dumping TS, for paramedic, of which she's in her 6th years.

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Now, how long does it take to become trauma surgeon

4 yrs college
4 yrs med school
5-7 yrs general surgery residency
1-2 yrs trauma surgery fellowship

Assuming spacetacular is very brilliant, I'll choose the lower duration for her.

= 4+4+5+1= 14 years

* So, spacetacular became trauma surgeon 14 years post secondary schools.

* she practiced as surgeon for 3 years.

*let say spacetacular was 18 years when she got into med school.

That gives us 14+3+18=35

Add 3 years of waiting, this put her age at 38 yrs. Add 2yrs of paramedic training to this = 40yrs.

*she's been practicing paramedic for 6yrs now, which comes to 46yrs.

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*the texture of the conversation of spacetacular here, is far from reflecting a trauma surgeon, with brilliance of becoming one the age she did.

* what could possibly make a trauma surgeon, abandon such high end medical specialty, with the humongous and commensurate remuneration, for paramedic?

This is like saying that Ben Carson, abandoned pediatric neurosurgery, for a carrier in pediatric nursing, when he was 40yrs old.

* spacetacular claimed that she's off duty. A traumatologist, certainly wouldn't find the best use of this break, for inferiority complex parade. Which is the almost 18hours parade on this thread.

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Conclusion

*spacetacular is not a trauma surgeon, but an impersonator, who is obviously suffering from inferiority complex.

*it's likely that she's a paramedic, who's trying hard, to make her hustle yield much pay.

*therefore, spacetacular who registered on NL on 12/5/2017, is either a new moniker of a coward and odious apologist, who possibly have morbid grouse with threads of CatfishBilly.

If spacetacular proves me wrong on this, by posting a verifiable means of her confirming her claims as trauma surgeon, i akintom, will tender UNRESERVED APOLOGY, to spacetacular.

Madam-all-profession Her comments are quite entertaining. Staking all her experience to validate Nigerian charlatans. Apparently, she has no idea how new frontiers in medicine come about so she discredits medical journals and literature until she experiences it in her field work. Therefore, any aspect she hadn't been taught or encountered is a miracle and God, perhaps going further as a 'believer' to say it is the christian god. She is the kind that would not hesitate to refer patients to these preachers. It clearly shows that anyone can become a paramedic, at least where she got her training.
Little wonder when professionals with several years of international experience return to Nigeria end up as clueless and superstious as those without exposure.
I'm still reading through, this is another interesting one.

adepeter26:
You know what Bro? They are both good. (I mean both parties).

Madam of all Profession was making her points based on experience (long)
While Billy was making his own points based on short time experience and medical school Theories. If billy were to be in the profession for quite the period of time or close as compared to Madam all Profession, they would have understood each other better...

Long time experience and long time theories are two different things.....
If Billy was to go deep into theories, trust me, the so called Paramedics will keep quiet.
And if madam too starts to use experience and events she have encountered, Billy as well will get lost...

Billy failed to realised Madam was talking based on long term experience and what she knew.....

analice107:
Only people with low self esteem run to insults with the hope of putting the opponent off. But i won't come to your level. You are an urchin.

You belong in the class of felixomoron and Ebulog, as your infirmity is grossly summed up, in your reputation, as narrated by otem and HardMirror.

You're equally and permanently off a moniker, that will attract my quote.

akintom:
Psychoanalysing spacetacular

*she claimed been a trauma surgeon for 3 years

*she also claimed dumping TS, for paramedic, of which she's in her 6th years.

..................................................................................

Now, how long does it take to become trauma surgeon

4 yrs college
4 yrs med school
5-7 yrs general surgery residency
1-2 yrs trauma surgery fellowship

Assuming spacetacular is very brilliant, I'll choose the lower duration for her.

= 4+4+5+1= 14 years

* So, spacetacular became trauma surgeon 14 years post secondary schools.

* she practiced as surgeon for 3 years.

*let say spacetacular was 18 years when she got into med school.

That gives us 14+3+18=35

Add 3 years of waiting, this put her age at 38 yrs. Add 2yrs of paramedic training to this = 40yrs.

*she's been practicing paramedic for 6yrs now, which comes to 46yrs.

.............................................................................................................

*the texture of the conversation of spacetacular here, is far from reflecting a trauma surgeon, with brilliance of becoming one the age she did.

* what could possibly make a trauma surgeon, abandon such high end medical specialty, with the humongous and commensurate remuneration, for paramedic?

This is like saying that Ben Carson, abandoned pediatric neurosurgery, for a carrier in pediatric nursing, when he was 40yrs old.

* spacetacular claimed that she's off duty. A traumatologist, certainly wouldn't find the best use of this break, for inferiority complex parade. Which is the almost 18hours parade on this thread.

.......................................................................................
Conclusion

*spacetacular is not a trauma surgeon, but an impersonator, who is obviously suffering from inferiority complex.

*it's likely that she's a paramedic, who's trying hard, to make her hustle yield much pay.

*therefore, spacetacular who registered on NL on 12/5/2017, is either a new moniker of a coward and odious apologist, who possibly have morbid grouse with threads of CatfishBilly.

If spacetacular proves me wrong on this, by posting a verifiable means of her confirming her claims as trauma surgeon, i akintom, will tender UNRESERVED APOLOGY, to spacetacular.

Billy caused this in the 1st instance....

I love how hopefulLandlord starts his discussion. Both parties have to agree on common terms, then they start from there....

To ya observations(most especially the date registered), I suspected as much too. Am suspecting someone tho, (name withheld)....

Fingers crossed. Let see for how long she would be online on this section...

analice107:
Hopefulandlord, now you are lying. I followed that case from start to finish. pls tell the truth. I know it's hard since it has to do with a Christian, but try.

Was the supposed miracle staged by PastorJoe?

A man came for a church programme,.the pastor never knew him before that programme, the man came out declaring he was healed of some ailment. He was interviewed, he insisted he was healed and he was recorded.

The video was posted as a testimony. SirJohn went after the man and discovered the man even lied to pastorjoe.

Right here in Nairaland, SirJohn discovered that the man lied to the Pastor and later was collecting money from Pastor Joe. Sir John asked Pastor Joe to stop spending money on the man because the man saw that Pastor Joe was a kind man and was using him to make money.

The man claimed he had been sick for long, but since he had been healed, he needed to survive, Pastor Joe was sustaining that man financially until Sirjohn interviewed that man and found out that the man was lying to Pastor Joe.

But, no, You'd rather hide this part. Am glad i followed that case up.

That case made me endeared to Pastor Joe, the manner he handled the whole matter was humbling.

Atheists ridiculed him, it was still the same Sir John who came up and quailed the whole insults down because he knew pastor Joe was not aware that the man was a fraud.


Pls, tell the truth.

And you don't think it's necessary to ask why a pastor who claims he has the power to heal someone with HIV couldn't figure out he was being lied to?
Doesn't this call his so call power into questioning?