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Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by Topgainer: 2:46pm On May 17, 2017
jonbellion:
thank you!
It's always unknown people
You guys should take easy with the Prophetic Artists. Their schools, church centers and camps have actually contributed to the economy of the place it is situated. Hotel, estates, eateries, markets and other businesses come on board in the entirely new areas as a result of the healing and miracles schools.
I think Nigerian Prophets are measuring up to their Indian counterparts the gurus and spellcasters but people should be careful of trusting them with their lives. Despite, the complementary enchanters and mystic healers in India, the Government has done a lot to make healthcare accessible to the poor rural dwellers who now have a choice between the wave (energy generating) Prophetic Avatars and the Orthodox healthcare system.

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Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by Topgainer: 3:08pm On May 17, 2017
KingEbukaNaija:


You atheists accuse Christians of lying
There are lots of lies and lying Prophets right now in the new breed Christianity.
In as much as I believe the healing may have happened because exorcism and traditional cure centers for insanity has been with us in our localities for generations with varying results of cure,
that display you see there can still be scripted and acted against the background of the Money bag proprietors of those Churches, the act will be so easy to achieve, besides they smartly plan ahead of time . For instance, it is possible to contract this guy for the show since last year January if the price is OK. It easier to act this than to act dead in the mortuary for Prophet to use for demos, which some collaborators have bravely undertaken. One suffocated recently at Abuja in the process. And to even imagine both husband and wife were in the same business

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Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by Joagbaje(m): 3:19pm On May 17, 2017
OtemAtum:
I watch this exact kind of wounds in Nollywood movies nowadays. Are Nollywood wounds also real?

nollywood can't achieve such in effect. I'm into movie production. not even hollywood. and its amazing that a local church will now have more sophisticated effect that movie industry. Brother this is a real wound . don't deny God his glory
Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by KingEbukaNaija: 3:20pm On May 17, 2017
Topgainer:

There are lots of lies and lying Prophets right now in the new breed Christianity.
In as much as I believe the healing may have happened because exorcism and traditional cure centers for insanity has been with us in our localities for generations with varying results of cure,
that display you see there can still be scripted and acted against the background of the Money bag proprietors of those Churches, the act will be so easy to achieve, besides they smartly plan ahead of time . For instance, it is possible to contract this guy for the show since last year January if the price is OK. It easier to act this than to act dead in the mortuary for Prophet to use for demos, which some collaborators have bravely undertaken. One suffocated recently at Abuja in the process. And to even imagine both husband and wife were in the same business

I'm not saying there is no possibility that some miracle shows are staged but its left for you to prove beyond doubt the ones you claim are staged are indeed staged . You criticize the use of anecdotes now you are telling me that one of the scammers suffocated in Abuja - how do you expect me to believe you . There has to be tangible evidence to support these claims .
Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by OtemAtum: 3:26pm On May 17, 2017
hopefulLandlord:


my Oga, Na you talk am o grin
lol
Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by OtemAtum: 3:28pm On May 17, 2017
joe4christ:


Indeed you're right, it's staged. But what I tend to disagree with you on is the wounds being fake. I for one can inflict such injury on myself and even more and act mad for 6months straight up for some couple of millions, payable for my service. I can, and so can many people be willing to do more for a lesser cash. You cant begin to imagine what people are willing to do for money.
And yea, the mistake they made was filming him prior to his deliverance. It only proves it's staged
cheesy
Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by OtemAtum: 3:30pm On May 17, 2017
spacetacular:



first you focused on the injuries and called them fake and i have shown you that they are not and that you are the one trying to be deceitful. Now you are shifting from the injuries you earlier claimed as fake to the video and how it played out? What really is the problem with you sir? Do you have an issue with videos or injuries or you simply have an issue with seeing good stuff happen?


_ × + =_

Since the miracle is staged and acted, anything there had to be fake to me. I don't tolerate staged miracles in whatever way. The thing is staged, that's the bottom line.
Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by OtemAtum: 3:33pm On May 17, 2017
felixomor:


Was that why u first lied that u watched the video?
When u just simply fast forwarded and took screenshots?
Now u r trying to cover your mess desperately?

This is not the first time, you are doing this
You have even accused a baby girl of acting a miracle video on Nairaland before.

All these u are doing is poor damage control.
Yes, can anything come out of actors except acting?
Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by felixomor: 3:45pm On May 17, 2017
OtemAtum:
Yes, can anything come out of actors except acting?

You that just told a lie because of your desperate unbelief
What are you?
Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by Joagbaje(m): 3:52pm On May 17, 2017
akintom:

I have two clients, who have personally met your "forensic prophet", they came back, just the same way they went.

And who's fault is that? It depends on faith Even not everyone got healed even under jesus.

Did they claim there are no miracles there?

*accommodation that he provided
*bribing of his agents, so you you could seat at the front row
*buying of all kinds of paraphernalia

Only fools and gullible, make sense of this your con artists.

Your clients were bribing to be in the front seat .if the miracles were fake why would they want to be in front .
Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by OtemAtum: 3:53pm On May 17, 2017
felixomor:


You that just told a lie because of your desperate unbelief
What are you?
What's the lie and What's the proof that it's a lie?
Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by Joagbaje(m): 3:55pm On May 17, 2017
Gombs:
Otem is a well known mentally unstable nairalander. He should visit the church before his case is fully street blown

grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by Nobody: 3:57pm On May 17, 2017
Joagbaje:
For those who had been doubting the potency of Gods healing power. watch this live miracle

I watched this video. The man whom everyone claimed was mad sat in church in quiet contemplation whilst those around him were going mental and rolling on the floor. If this man were truly mad before then the sight of so many people displaying their own peculiar brand of madness in his presence would have been more than enough to shock him into lucidity.

This video is what passes for 21st century evangelism in Nigeria today and then we wonder why some random troll on these forums says Sub-Saharan Africans are intellectually inferior.

Any illusion relies on a classic diversion. The more you look, the less you see.

I don't doubt the potency of Divine healing but I am sorry this is not one.

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Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by felixomor: 3:59pm On May 17, 2017
OtemAtum:
What's the lie and What's the proof that it's a lie?

That u had watched the video, when u had not. Or did you not lie?

And also where is your own proof that the people in the video are actors?
Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by Joagbaje(m): 3:59pm On May 17, 2017
OtemAtum:
As graphic as this picture below is, yet it isn't real. It is a snapshot from a Nollywood movie. Now tell me why the one here should be realler than this.

Your picture is so fake na . Are you saying that local church is more advance
Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by Joagbaje(m): 4:00pm On May 17, 2017
felixomor:


That u had watched the video, when u had not. Or did you not lie?

And also where is your own proof that the people in the video are actors?

Nice question

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Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by OtemAtum: 4:02pm On May 17, 2017
felixomor:


That u had watched the video, when u had not. Or did you not lie?

And also where is your own proof that the people in the video are actors?

I had watched it. My proof that they are actors is because the whole thing look exactly the way they act Nollywood film. Reality doesn't look like that.
Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by OtemAtum: 4:03pm On May 17, 2017
Joagbaje:


Your picture is so fake na . Are you saying that local church is more advance
That church has plenty congregations, how is it a local church?
Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by Joagbaje(m): 4:05pm On May 17, 2017
spacetacular:



I took my time to watch the video first. All of it. It takes a trained eye to detect reality from make believe and I am a trained eye sir with 6 years Paramedic experience and another 3 in the trauma unit of a hospital. The first pictures of the mad man are true injuries as they clearly show chaffing on the skin and lacerations going below the skin line with no inflammatory indication. Plus you can clearly see the flaking skin from chain burns or from the lengthy cutting off of blood supply to his wrists and ankles from the chains being on too tight which would also cause the lacerations on his wrist and ankles.


THANK YOU . It is as simple as that . The would is real . It's a simple common sense It takes deceptive effort to say otherwise
Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by felixomor: 4:05pm On May 17, 2017
OtemAtum:


I had watched it. My proof that they are actors is because the whole thing look exactly the way they act Nollywood film. Reality doesn't look like that.
Sorry
You have not provided proof that u had watched it
I don't believe u. because u took screenshots and fast forwarded
I still insist that you lied

And Please can u show us what real life miracle video looks like?
since u said this one is nollywood?
Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by hopefulLandlord: 4:10pm On May 17, 2017
Sarassin:


I watched this video. The man whom everyone claimed was mad sat in church in quiet contemplation whilst those around him were going mental and rolling on the floor. If this man were truly mad before then the sight of so many people displaying their own peculiar brand of madness in his presence would have been more than enough to shock him into lucidity.

This video is what passes for 21st century evangelism in Nigeria today and then we wonder why some random troll on these forums says Sub-Saharan Africans are intellectually inferior.

Any illusion relies on a classic diversion. The more you look, the less you see.

I don't doubt the potency of Divine healing but I am sorry this is not one.

thread closed!!!

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Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by Joagbaje(m): 4:12pm On May 17, 2017
Sarassin:


I watched this video. The man whom everyone claimed was mad sat in church in quiet contemplation whilst those around him were going mental and rolling on the floor. If this man were truly mad before then the sight of so many people displaying their own peculiar brand of madness in his presence would have been more than enough to shock him into lucidity.


And he remained lucid ever since . What a therapy for treating insanity In your own medical school . Mad men rather require tranquility around them not chaos sir. You guys will coke with strange unrealistic theories just to disprove Gods power .
Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by OtemAtum: 4:31pm On May 17, 2017
felixomor:

Sorry
You have not provided proof that u had watched it
I don't believe u. because u took screenshots and fast forwarded
I still insist that you lied

And Please can u show us what real life miracle video looks like?
since u said this one is nollywood?
there has never been any real life miracle videos. Whenever something miraculous would happen, nobody would be ready for it. It happens so unexpectedly that you won't even have imagined it could.
Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by Nobody: 4:46pm On May 17, 2017
Joagbaje:


And he remained lucid ever since . What a therapy for treating insanity In your own medical school . Mad men rather require tranquility around them not chaos sir. You guys will coke with strange unrealistic theories just to disprove Gods power .

No sir, no unrealistic theories here. What evidence do you have that the man was insane to begin with?
Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by felixomor: 4:52pm On May 17, 2017
OtemAtum:
there has never been any real life miracle videos. Whenever something miraculous would happen, nobody would be ready for it. It happens so unexpectedly that you won't even have imagined it could.

If u say there have never been
Then you are a liar
It takes an experience of an original to detect a fake

So your analysis was based on Lies. Thats the second time yo are caught lying

Secondly, I am still waiting for your proof that you watched the video

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Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by OtemAtum: 5:04pm On May 17, 2017
felixomor:


If u say there have never been
Then you are a liar
It takes an experience of an original to detect a fake

So your analysis was based on Lies. Thats the second time yo are caught lying

Secondly, I am still waiting for your proof that you watched the video
You haven't made sense yet. Miracles don't happen when you are watching out for it. It happens spontaneously and takes everybody aback. Those preconceived screenplays displayed in the churches are not real.
Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by felixomor: 5:10pm On May 17, 2017
OtemAtum:
You haven't made sense yet. Miracles don't happen when you are watching out for it. It happens spontaneously and takes everybody aback. Those preconceived screenplays displayed in the churches are not real.

You see u telling a lie again
"Miracles dont happen when you are watching out"

Please is that Isaac Newton's Law of Miracles?
Or what? grin

Meanwhile you just said Miracles have never happened before.

And at the same time you said "it takes everybody aback"
If you have never seen it
How do you know "It takes everybody aback"

You see that u cant even keep track of your statements anymore?
Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by spacetacular(f): 5:17pm On May 17, 2017
Sarassin:


I watched this video. The man whom everyone claimed was mad sat in church in quiet contemplation whilst those around him were going mental and rolling on the floor. If this man were truly mad before then the sight of so many people displaying their own peculiar brand of madness in his presence would have been more than enough to shock him into lucidity.

This video is what passes for 21st century evangelism in Nigeria today and then we wonder why some random troll on these forums says Sub-Saharan Africans are intellectually inferior.

Any illusion relies on a classic diversion. The more you look, the less you see.

I don't doubt the potency of Divine healing but I am sorry this is not one.

I beg to differ sir. People with mental disorders such as Hysteria, schizophrenia,autism spectrum disorder or even bipolar disorder are not always violent. They also experience mood swings but generally receive antidepressants such as Zoloft as a safe guard for the one mentally ill and not due to constant violent behaviour or a perceived danger to others.

One of the most misleading assumptions out there is that people with mental conditions are dangerous and violent. This is not true. I think you watch too many movies and follow what is depicted in the movies about people with mental illness.

The face of mental illness can be the same as any other. It doesn’t make people look or behave in any way we are guaranteed to notice or perceive as abnormal. However in this case the simple chaffing on his wrists and waist and dark rings around his wrists and ankles plus the lacerations can only come about from prolonged periods of being bound using something very uncomfortable like a chain which has uneven links and loops. If he was bound with a rope you would only see dark rings but not chaffing. Lacerations of that nature in those regions from being bound is often caused by attempted struggle not once or twice but often.

My focus has been on his injuries and if they were real or not and i can very well say that they are real. Regarding his mental state without a proper check i cannot say but the physical signs were there in the video however if i combine that with his being bound for lengthy periods as i already observed then i can say he most likely was mentally ill.
Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by spacetacular(f): 5:23pm On May 17, 2017
OtemAtum:


_ × + =_

Since the miracle is staged and acted, anything there had to be fake to me. I don't tolerate staged miracles in whatever way. The thing is staged, that's the bottom line.

Can i also assume you are staged sir? Is there a real person typing these words i am reading? For all i know you could also be fake and writing from a script of your own making. So what makes you any different from that which you criticize? You were not a witness to what transpired so cannot be an authority. I am not where you are to see you for who you are so i can also say you are staged and a fake can i not sir?
Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by Joagbaje(m): 5:49pm On May 17, 2017
Sarassin:


No sir, no unrealistic theories here

Where did you get the idea that people crying and making noise can bring healing to madness?


What evidence do you have that the man was insane to begin with?

what more evidence do you need. Video proof taken by family was there. and also the testimony of family and others who knew him. t hey have carried him to multiple places
Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by adepeter26(m): 5:58pm On May 17, 2017
After reading many comments, I just feel like weeping cos it's painful how people believe in this scam of miracles and prayers.....

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Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by akintom(m): 6:04pm On May 17, 2017
Joagbaje:


And who's fault is that? It depends on faith Even not everyone got healed even under jesus.

Did they claim there are no miracles there?



Your clients were bribing to be in the front seat .if the miracles were fake why would they want to be in front .

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