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| Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by sweetilicious(f): 10:25am On May 25, 2017 |
smartty68:Likewise I |
| Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by Nobody: 10:29am On May 25, 2017 |
osahonmk:This is what you get in a country where a lawyer is made a minister of power |
| Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by murmee: 10:30am On May 25, 2017 |
If Discos are not able to provide Meters for their Consumers, they should allow private companies that have the money to import the Meters and sell to people that are willing to buy. It is totally unacceptable and fraudulent for Discos to determine the Units of Electricity consumed for unmetered consumers. The National Assembly should rise up and protect Nigerians from this ripoff |
| Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by Mcowubaba: 10:37am On May 25, 2017 |
Reference:So you support this process ![]() The Government selling just 5 licenses had a lot of reasons. At that time, how many companies were ready to go into telecommunication, how many people bided for the License?? In recent years, new licenses has still been given to new GSM operators.. So what exactly are you saying? Refinery is a different ball game, even at that, some private refineries are currently being constructed, the got their license from the Government.. Some days ago, Ibe Kachukwu said he will resign if Nigeria is still importing PMS by 2019... The Government only got very serious on rehabilitation of Refineries just in this Buhari's administration.. Let's watch and see |
| Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by frubben(m): 10:40am On May 25, 2017 |
LordOfNaira:When fashola ma said Nigeria having uninterrupted power supply was not rocket science he said the truth. But when e assume power he saw that men was working against it. Baba fash gat watch him back. |
| Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by Ashley86400: 10:40am On May 25, 2017 |
There's no need for drama. .we all know Nigeria's electricity will never be fixed. .not cause they can't if they make plans but because they won't. It's a two-folded issue. . First, It was when we bought a new Firman gen last year (@30k,the same gen goes for 69k as at now -just a year's difference smh) and on the carton they wrote "Special designed for Nigeria" that I knew there was no more hope for this country's electricity because apparently these countries KNOW us. . .The same quote can be found on some Freezers too. .because they know our electricity is shit and they're making great business with it. .basically,Generator companies in Japan pay tons of money to the Nigerian government for the importation of their goods which come in all manner of sizes. . Second,Nigeria's economy is so screwed up that buying of fuel is not optional. .depending on your lifestyle/status you end up buying hundreds/thousands of litres of fuel every year to just to enjoy electricity. Wether you use a car ,stove or gas. .you have to march up to a filling station constantly for fuel be it petroleum,diesel or kerosene. .if electricity suddenly became good. .people would deviate to using electric stoves and Generator users wouldn't need petrol and Genetators any more. .leaving ONLY car users at filling stations. . .how many Nigerians use cars in comparison with our population? Not up to a third of our population and that's also counting commercial vehicles . .in other words. .they would sell less barrels per day. .do you know how much would be lost if this happened? Fuel companies definitely wouldn't advocate for that.Now with that money securely flowing in as Generators and petrol are constantly being bought how will they focus on actually fixing our electricity which will divert the electricity money flow into the hands of electricity companies. Unlike us these people don't mind using generators since they can afford it. . . Moral of the story- If you think Nigeria's electricity has a happy ending. . .you haven't been paying attention. |
| Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by Nobody: 10:44am On May 25, 2017 |
since we can't seem to get anything right,can we just auction this country to the highest bidder for recolonization, I am tired of all this ![]() |
| Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by Nobody: 10:44am On May 25, 2017 |
magoo10:They will open additional 40,000 emails to empower zombies(BMC) to be posting lies and blames every day doing nothing to improve and reduce high cost of living or price of goods in markets. Let Wike to give all of APC members awards. They all need awards for their propagandists. |
| Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by Nobody: 10:45am On May 25, 2017*. Modified: 11:26am On May 25, 2017 |
Smh |
| Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by Reference(m): 10:49am On May 25, 2017 |
bakynes:And what is wrong with bringing the likes of EDF, Gazprom into the picture. I'm sure the present GENCOS will welcome that. Government can help to facilitate business the way an gynaecologist can stimulate pregnancy by bringing the sperm and egg together without violating the natural course of birth, i.e. existing contractual obligations. Afterall when did Etisalat join the big 4 and if memory serves me right a certain ECONET started the GSM journey in day 1. Things happen. But like I've said before, it is the structure of the privatisation that was faulty and I believe that keeps investors, competitors, financiers and the likes out. Now listen. We should not have broken PHCN laterally into generation, transmission and distribution. It is not done that way in serious countries. Ask how the likes of EDF operate. They operate top down. That is the generate, transmitt and distribute to specific sectors. It is like asking MTN to own the satellites and up links, Glo the submarine cables, Etisalat the transmission towers and Airtel the switch boards and then expect them to invest and generate revenue. The system will be a mess. Calls will hardly ever come through and the blame game will be aplenty. My take is this. Political expediency created a scenario where the whole country will be covered by power services at once. They wanted to avoid a situation where no investor will pick up assets in economically disadvantaged locations (you know them). Remember what happened in the GSM rollout. The private sector will eat the meat first and then take years to finish the bone. But thus is the right way investors think. No one will see Lagos and put money in Zamfara or Abakaliki first. They wanted to create a level service field from the get go and had no option that to break PHCN laterally. Politically right, economically disastrous. What they should do now is to correct this anomaly by encouraging mergers across the three sectors so that one single entity generates power, tranmitts it to the place of optimum consumption and collect the dues directly so no one owes no one and no one rejects the services of no one. And the government should hands off transmission. They should not determine where power goes. If they want to 'feed the poor' they should incentify. Let the competition be top down and see how massive investment will begin to poor in. Which bank will give loan to a company that it cannot monitor let alone collect revenues on its behalf. There is no business trust within the system caused by the unwieldy, inefficient nature of its structure. |
| Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by Reference(m): 10:53am On May 25, 2017 |
Mcowubaba:No need to talk further about that. You clearly don't understand the need for strategic monopoly in budding new investment in public infrastructure. I don't have the time to write a long epistle on that. |
| Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by EarlOfWarwick(m): 10:59am On May 25, 2017 |
Tomorrow they will insult Dino. Nice one man! |
| Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by EarlOfWarwick(m): 11:01am On May 25, 2017 |
Jolar101:They created more than that. Hundreds of thousands. They post. They like. They comment. This is really deep. This Govt. is really fraudulent and wicked. |
| Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by bakynes(m): 11:05am On May 25, 2017 |
Reference:We saying the same thing at least Obasanjo did a good job in the privatization of Telecom's. He didn't sell NITEL facilities to cronies and call that privatization, he invited foreign companies to build their facilities and they determine the billing system. That system is what Nigeria needs for the power sector, invite one or two foreign electricity companies to compete with PHCN that way we can choose who to patronize thereby creating competition and the competition will translate to improvement of service. We might initially suffer the billing system of these companies but with time when they make their money they used in investing, the cost of electricity will begin to come down. |
| Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by Brunosamel(m): 11:08am On May 25, 2017 |
FG want to tell me that they can't tackle power issue in Nigeria, is a real shame. Build a nuclear reactor that will help Nigerians they refused. Am tired for how many years FG can't generate stable electricity for Nigerians. ![]() |
| Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by obailala(m): 11:13am On May 25, 2017 |
magoo10:When you feel a compulsion to always politicise everything along the lines of PDP vs APC, you end up exposing your own ignorance. Since you claim the power crisis makes APC a failure, let's go down the road and determine who the bigger failure is. PDP spent over $24 billion on power between 1999 and 2015 ($16 billion by OBJ and $8+ billion by GEJ). But what did PDP handover to APC with regards to power supply? http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/183496-nigerias-power-generation-at-all-time-low-crashes-to-1327mw.html http://allafrica.com/stories/201505250099.html 1327mw was Nigeria's exact power generation figure on the week when PDP was handing over to APC. Your statement of 4000mw is either out of ignorance or a deliberate attempt at misinformation. So now that you know the truth, and since you want to play the apc vs pdp game, kindly tell us who is the bigger failure? |
| Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by bestpunterever: 11:21am On May 25, 2017 |
gunners160:what has certificate got to do with stable power supply, why did your HERO, the PHD holder refused to make it stable if certificate were the requirement for Good governance. Next time, u keep shut if u don't av any reasonable thing to give out from your brain. |
| Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by Nobody: 11:25am On May 25, 2017 |
EarlOfWarwick:I've noticed that, they now hacking they opponents accounts to posted in their propaganda and campaigns for 2019. No matter how bribes INEC officials are, we will do something about it. It will start from their homes to the head quarters. |
| Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by Mujtahida: 11:27am On May 25, 2017 |
I am happy the Senators have concluded that the situation in the power sector is hopeless. I commend them for their sincerity. However they should go a step further and acknowledge that Nigeria is a failed nation. How I wish this country can be leased out for at least 50 years to the Leaders of either the UAE or any other capable nation. We will enter an agreement whereby they will take a certain percentage from our natural resources and wealth in exchange for good governance and development. |
| Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by gunners160(m): 11:29am On May 25, 2017 |
bestpunterever:At least,he his better than a walking dead President that is bent on dying on a throne he never Worths. So selfish and self centered, no wonder he can't differentiate between Z and S. |
| Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by murmee: 11:30am On May 25, 2017 |
Ashley86400:3 Gbosas for you, Ashley86400. You have just narrated the true story of Nigeria Electricity! |
| Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by Reference(m): 11:41am On May 25, 2017 |
bakynes:I said it before (when the plans were known), during the privatisation and now I am not surprised the thing is not working properly. But I fault your theory. You cannot run a public and private enterprise at the same time to serve the same public. They will destroy each other. The GSM project was a success because NITEL at that time was totally dead and hopefully it will remain dead. Apart from the faulty way PHCN was unbundled, another error that was made was the life support goven to PHCN in the run up by the Obasanjo, Yaradua and Goodluck governments. This I think generated mixed signals as to whether the privatisation was going to happen. Look, if you want yo sell your car, it is good to renovate and tidy it up to get good value but if you then begin to drive it around and it is never at the car stand for inspection then you will equally have a tough sale. Ask yourself this question from an investors perspective. Are our refineries up for sale or not. Is Nigeria ready for private refining. Because since democracy returned it is one policy contradiction after the other. Today we want to sell, tomorrow we want to repair. No one will do business in an uncertain market with confused actors. It is either you want to sell your car or not. This is the scenario that played out in the power sector till Goodluck slammed the gavel down. By then the serious players were gone. The billions of dollars allegedly invested by past regimes has ended up not just being a waste of resources but has made the bride price of power so high only the money men of no character are suitors. |
| Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by bestpunterever: 11:42am On May 25, 2017 |
gunners160:did he use his certificate to fixed the electricity? Answer yes or no, OR u get lost. |
| Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by RALPHOW(m): 11:45am On May 25, 2017 |
WITHDRAW THE DISCO CONTRACTS AND ALLOW EACH STATE TO GENERATE AND DISTRIBUTE OWN ELECTRICITY. NORTH SHOULD STOP BEHAVING LIKE BEGGARS, YOU CAN AND WILL GENERATE OWN POWER. |
| Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by bakynes(m): 11:50am On May 25, 2017 |
Reference:The reason I wanted PHCN running side by side is because I know some citizens might not be able to afford those foreign electricity companies at the initial stage so the poor citizens can still manage the poor supplies PHCN will give them. PHCN could be sold to a citizen. It is obvious Power is truly rocket science in Nigeria so it's better we invite foreign companies to take us out of these cesspit. |
| Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by Btruth: 11:50am On May 25, 2017 |
Can you imagine this silly set of people. ![]() |
| Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by gunners160(m): 12:08pm On May 25, 2017 |
bestpunterever:Rhetorical question gat no answers and ill mannered people are best avoided so,I rest my case |
| Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by magoo10(m): 12:13pm On May 25, 2017 |
obailala:See you . check your facts well ,jonathan left power output at 4000mega watt ,even APC can't deny it let alone you. Tinubu le leyi fashola le leyi otumba le leyi ndi oshi le leyi lols |
| Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by Reference(m): 12:19pm On May 25, 2017 |
bakynes:It will not work. The success of the GSM project was because it was entirely a private business concern. No company can compete with government in terms of resources and legislative power. If government establishes a cheaper alternative even billionaires will hook up, the private ones will die out. in the GSM model, the initial roll out was expensive. Massive income and clean balance sheets attracted the capital investment that enabled a spread of services to less endowed locations. This is how capitalist systems works. Government thought it was smart and tried the two track system for power. This is the result. |
| Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by DeRay98(m): 12:30pm On May 25, 2017 |
osahonmk:For once, the senate has debated a long overdue matter of national interest and economic significance. The error was made when the govt of that era hurriedly sold out the power to local companies of their croonies with the only thought how much they could make from power. No realistic and thorough analysis of the entire process was duly done. Our engrs in this field like their colleagues in construction industry have perpetually failed us. I want to believe that some local power energy consultanting companies did the feasibility studies for the eventual buyers. As you may have known some of experts are only experts on paper with of local and international degrees but typically lacking applicable skills to resolve problems in their field of acclaimed expertise. The local experts would have the right capacity to get quality work done will never be given the job if they can't lobby for it through kickbacks or "man know man". Until punishment is duly served those who fail to perform their given tasks, failure 'll remain our national "honour". |
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