italo:


That is your opinion.

We say she is the Mother of God, the Ark of the new covenant. And the bible backs it up.

So you first "said" and later found, or are still searching for scriptures to back it up. Continue.

Instead of following clear teachings of Jesus and His apostles, you form your own and then twist scriptures in order to make them support your lie and you think you will escape judgement.

italo:


Bros, I neither mentioned "venerate" nor "worship." Hatred is driving you mad. May God realease you from this bondage.

You mean you no longer venerate Mary?

Splinz:


You mean you no longer venerate Mary?

Who sai?

donnie:


Who sai?

Ah, you mean you don't know? Veneration of the saints is well established and preach in the Catholic Church. Do you know why Op is trying to deny it now?

Splinz:


Ah, you mean you don't know? Veneration of the saints is well established and preach in the Catholic Church. Do you know why Op is trying to deny it now?

I meant "for where"... When Vatican hasn't changed the doctrine.

donnie:

I meant "for where"... When Vatican hasn't changed the doctrine.

Oh... Maybe this Op don change am o.

Splinz:


You mean you no longer venerate Mary?

Dodging the topic...

Because it is true.

donnie:


So you first "said" and later found, or are still searching for scriptures to back it up. Continue.

Instead of following clear teachings of Jesus and His apostles, you form your own and then twist scriptures in order to make them support your lie and you think you will escape judgement.

It was his apostles that wrote that Mary is the ark that carried the word made flesh.

I didnt twist nothing.

italo:

Dodging the topic...
Because it is true.

Your wish. I wonder who want to worship Orisa with you.

Splinz:


Your wish. I wonder who want to worship Orisa with you.

Dodging the topic...

Because it's true.

italo:

Dodging the topic...
Because it's true.

You mean Orisa worship is true?

Splinz:


You mean Orisa worship is true?

Dodging the topic...

Because it's true.

italo:

Dodging the topic...
Because it's true.

Okay. I'm not a worshiper of your god.

Splinz:


Okay. I'm not a worshiper of your god.

Dodging the topic...

Because it's true.

italo:


Bros, e be like say i go come meet you for bible study o...

Haba bros, just the small one wey I manage learn, abeg continue de lecture us jare. If you give a thought to the fact that the only place the ark of his covenant was mentioned in the the book of revelations was in Rev.11:19, When temple of God was opened and John took a glimpse. Immediately after that was Rev.12:1, where the Woman (seen as ark in heaven) Rev.11:19 appeared in the sky, to give birth to a child (seen as lamb in heaven) Rev.7:17. Chai, Isn't God saying something...Lord that they may see.

Syncan:


Haba bros, just the small one wey I manage learn, abeg continue de lecture us jare. If you give a thought to the fact that the only place the ark of his covenant was mentioned in the the book of revelations was in Rev.11:19, When temple of God was opened and John took a glimpse. Immediately after that was Rev.12:1, where the Woman (seen as ark in heaven) Rev.11:19 appeared in the sky, to give birth to a child (seen as lamb in heaven) Rev.7:17. Chai, Isn't God saying something...Lord that they may see.

Of course he is.

Remember that the chapters and verses were only added in the middle ages for easy reference.

John wrote it this way:

Then God’s temple in heaven was opened, and the ark of his covenant was seen within his temple; and there were flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder, an earthquake, and heavy hail. A great portent appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars.

italo:


Of course he is.

Remember that the chapters and verses were only added in the middle ages for easy reference.

John wrote it this way:

Then God’s temple in heaven was opened, and the ark of his covenant was seen within his temple; and there were flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder, an earthquake, and heavy hail. A great portent appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars.

I'm not surprised none of them tried to challenge the OP in any meaningful way. Instead they went straight to the default: accusing Catholics of taking the Virgin Mary for a god. It is like those who cry Islamophobia whenever someone suggests that Islam inspires terrorists. They simply can't refute what is said so they go straight to name calling. But i'm not surprised at all. All these new so called denominations have so devalued the mother of our Lord so much that if someone mentions in any way that she is important and holy they are horrified. They actually believe their pastors are more worthy than her.

Great and expository explanation... There is sense in the article, but God knows best sha. Either she's truly the ark or not, e no consign me. I believe in Jesus, the son of God.

italo:


Of course he is.

Remember that the chapters and verses were only added in the middle ages for easy reference.

John wrote it this way:

Then God’s temple in heaven was opened, and the ark of his covenant was seen within his temple; and there were flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder, an earthquake, and heavy hail. A great portent appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars.

Now that's why am always first to take a seat in your bible class

Syncan:



Now that's why am always first to take a seat in your bible class

Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Nairaland o.....hmmm.....I reserves my comment for now...

donnie:


Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Italo's bible class is quite effective, this one has learnt two quotes. Congrats bro.

Papist:

I'm not surprised none of them tried to challenge the OP in any meaningful way. Instead they went straight to the default: accusing Catholics of taking the Virgin Mary for a god. It is like those who cry Islamophobia whenever someone suggests that Islam inspires terrorists. They simply can't refute what is said so they go straight to name calling. But i'm not surprised at all. All these new so called denominations have so devalued the mother of our Lord so much that if someone mentions in any way that she is important and holy they are horrified. They actually believe their pastors are more worthy than her.

Its a no-brainer, time is running out for the devil and scripture is being fulfilled "And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ". Rev.12:17

Syncan:


Italo's bible class is quite effective, this one has learnt two quotes. Congrats bro.

howz your mother Mary doing?

donnie:



howz your mother Mary doing?

She's in her shrine as usual: “The idols of the heathen are silver and gold, the work of men's hands. They have mouths, but they speak not; eyes have they, but they see not; They have ears, but they hear not; neither is there any breath in their mouths. They that make them are like unto them: so is every one that trusteth in them.” (Psalm 135:15-18)

Splinz:


She's in her shrine as usual: “The idols of the heathen are silver and gold, the work of men's hands. They have mouths, but they speak not; eyes have they, but they see not; They have ears, but they hear not; neither is there any breath in their mouths. They that make them are like unto them: so is every one that trusteth in them.” (Psalm 135:15-18)

Actually she's in heaven, resting her own jeje. God will judge those devils transforming into angels of light to deceive many.

donnie:



howz your mother Mary doing?

donnie:




Actually she's in heaven, resting her own jeje. God will judge those devils transforming into angels of light to deceive many.

Wow, my mother Mary is in heaven, that's true. So where's your father, the accuser of the brethren?

donnie:


So because you sprinkled the article with scriptures quoted out of context, you think it should be swallowed?

Isn't maccabees one of those wayo books which dubious Roman catholic church leaders sneaked in?

Do you know that the "dubious catholics" also "sneaked" the other books of the bible in?that they gathered it and made it canonical?

Alexandro15:


Do you know that the "dubious catholics" also "sneaked" the other books of the bible in?that they gatherecit and made it canonical?

Lol you are very funny, these your protestant beliefs hold no water, ur founders though they were against the church believed who Mary was yet u their offspring have no idea who she is, u claim that the church sneaked books into the Bible, but history has again showed how lying and persistence in lying has showed dat we shouldn't take your biases as truths. The books in the Bible which you claim that we sneaked in were there before you protestants tried and failed at sneaking them out.

Please grow up and read history of Christianity with an open mind, yes the church has had its ups and downs but the Holy Spirit has been kind enough to help her overcome, that is why it's still standing and waxing strong and winning souls for Christ.

So I employ u learn with an open mind and seek the Holy Spirit for wisdom and understanding and He shall reveal all things.

Aizenosa:


Lol you are very funny, these your protestant beliefs hold no water, ur founders though they were against the church believed who Mary was yet u their offspring have no idea who she is, u claim that the church sneaked books into the Bible, but history has again showed how lying and persistence in lying has showed dat we shouldn't take your biases as truths. The books in the Bible which you claim that we sneaked in were there before you protestants tried and failed at sneaking them out.

Please grow up and read history of Christianity with an open mind, yes the church has had its ups and downs but the Holy Spirit has been kind enough to help her overcome, that is why it's still standing and waxing strong and winning souls for Christ.

So I employ u learn with an open mind and seek the Holy Spirit for wisdom and understanding and He shall reveal all things.

My brother, they are lazy Christians. It's all hear says from illiterate so called Pastors. Take for instance this prayer known as
"We Fly to Thy Patronage (Sub Tuum Praesidium)", believe me that none of those arguing here will believe that prayer is even up to 1000 years old, some will swear it was formed in this Century. Yet the oldest manuscript- a pappyrus leaf" of that prayer is dated to the 3rd Century. Imagine that, even before the councils met to sort and canonize the books of the bible!


WE fly to thy patronage, O holy Mother of God; despise not our petitions in our necessities, but deliver us always from all dangers, O glorious and blessed Virgin. Amen.

Aizenosa:


Lol you are very funny, these your protestant beliefs hold no water, ur founders though they were against the church believed who Mary was yet u their offspring have no idea who she is, u claim that the church sneaked books into the Bible, but history has again showed how lying and persistence in lying has showed dat we shouldn't take your biases as truths. The books in the Bible which you claim that we sneaked in were there before you protestants tried and failed at sneaking them out.

Please grow up and read history of Christianity with an open mind, yes the church has had its ups and downs but the Holy Spirit has been kind enough to help her overcome, that is why it's still standing and waxing strong and winning souls for Christ.

So I employ u learn with an open mind and seek the Holy Spirit for wisdom and understanding and He shall reveal all things.

Hello bro!
I am a full fledged Catholic. I was only answering him in a sacarstic manner. But I appreciate your gentle manner of addressing issues. you are a good man

you people need to study the bible very well, and when you answer answer with a scripture so that will prove that you know what you are talking about.
first of all was mary had Jesus and that was it she has nothing to do with anything in the bible and or ark. pls show me the verse. and also mary was pregnant to have Jesus before she was married, she did not have immaculate conception like some people may think. if you say that she was prego buy holy spirit then that will contradict and go against everything the bible teaches, and that is holy spirit got another mans wife prego. let me get you the verses