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Re: Is The Holy Spirit Present In The Life Of Both Believers And Unbelievers? by Nobody: 5:09pm On Jun 04, 2017

nurusystem:
I even have this video in my system, he was mentioning about Jesus name is word of God. he was just labelling a son of man has God word which he used in creating the universe.

the whole thing is Christ is a servant of God, if you go to the book of act 3:13 many verses where he was called prophet not god mark 6:3-4,
Luke 24:19,
Mathew 21:45-46
Mathew 21:11

KJV:And the multitude said, This is Jesus the prophet of Nazareth of Galilee.

can god be calling on god since he was the word by crying saying Eli Eli Eli why won't he do what he wants, and he was complaining. read Mathew 27:46

KJV:And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

You have made your point. Salam.

Re: Is The Holy Spirit Present In The Life Of Both Believers And Unbelievers? by Nobody: 5:14pm On Jun 04, 2017

nurusystem:
so everything confirm the Lordship of Jesus Christ. just show me a verse and chapter where Jesus said to is people that in quote, ,
'I am god worship me '
verse and chapter since you dodge
'personal lord and Savior '

Why are you interested in this? Jesus is alive and you believe he is a prophet, I challenge you during one of your Salat, to ask Allah if what people are saying about Jesus is true or not. It is just a challenge. No need to start arguments with me. Salam

Re: Is The Holy Spirit Present In The Life Of Both Believers And Unbelievers? by nurusystem(m): 5:16pm On Jun 04, 2017

jfolorun:
I see that you can access the Bible, everything in the Holy Bible confirms the Lordship of Jesus Christ. No one seats on the right hand of God except Jesus. Jesus is the Word and Spirit of God. Everything was created through Him.

let me chip in ,Jesus is not in authority to grant heaven except God, just read this verses Mathew 20:21:23
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KJV:And he said unto her, What wilt thou? She saith unto him, Grant that these my two sons may sit, the one on thy right hand, and the other on the left, in thy kingdom.

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KJV:But Jesus answered and said, Ye know not what ye ask. Are ye able to drink of the cup that I shall drink of, and to be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with? They say unto him, We are able.

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KJV:And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father.

Re: Is The Holy Spirit Present In The Life Of Both Believers And Unbelievers? by Nobody: 5:26pm On Jun 04, 2017

nurusystem:
let me chip in ,Jesus is not in authority to grant heaven except God, just read this verses Mathew 20:21:23
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KJV:And he said unto her, What wilt thou? She saith unto him, Grant that these my two sons may sit, the one on thy right hand, and the other on the left, in thy kingdom.

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KJV:But Jesus answered and said, Ye know not what ye ask. Are ye able to drink of the cup that I shall drink of, and to be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with? They say unto him, We are able.

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KJV:And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father.

Re: Is The Holy Spirit Present In The Life Of Both Believers And Unbelievers? by nurusystem(m): 5:28pm On Jun 04, 2017

jfolorun:
Why are you interested in this? Jesus is alive and you believe he is a prophet, I challenge you during one of your Salat, to ask Allah if what people are saying about Jesus is true or not. It is just a challenge. No need to start arguments with me. Salam

you don't know your bible my friend, formula dodge, those things are not what you think he was, this are Paul arrangements, ideas and opinions. don't worry you'll become a Muslim soon.

Re: Is The Holy Spirit Present In The Life Of Both Believers And Unbelievers? by Nobody: 5:51pm On Jun 04, 2017

nurusystem:
let me chip in ,Jesus is not in authority to grant heaven except God, just read this verses Mathew 20:21:23
21

KJV:And he said unto her, What wilt thou? She saith unto him, Grant that these my two sons may sit, the one on thy right hand, and the other on the left, in thy kingdom.

22

KJV:But Jesus answered and said, Ye know not what ye ask. Are ye able to drink of the cup that I shall drink of, and to be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with? They say unto him, We are able.

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KJV:And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father.

You probably haven't read the Bible very well. Actually, you read but you do not understand. Let me read from Philippians Chapter 2:9-11
"Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."
Prophet Isaiah said about Jesus more than 400 years before his birth that
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For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

That is taken from Isaiah chapter 9:6.

Jesus himself said the following :

And Jesus came to them and spake unto them, saying, All authority hath been given unto me in heaven and on earth.
This is Matthew 28:18.

You see my friend, we can go on and on and we will never exhaust scriptures establishing the Lordship and Authority of Jesus.
Jesus made many claims that only God could make. No prophet had the gut to accept worship, not even Mohammed or angels accepted worship. Jesus accepted worship. He never stopped anyone from worshipping Him.

Jesus heard that they had put him out; and finding him, He said, “Do you believe in the Son of Man?” He answered and said, “And who is He, Lord, that I may believe in Him?” Jesus said to him, “You have both seen Him, and He is the one who is talking with you.” And he said, “Lord, I believe.” And he worshiped Him.” John 9:35-38

Finally bro, I will be happy to share more about Jesus with you. I only ask for open mindedness. Salam

Re: Is The Holy Spirit Present In The Life Of Both Believers And Unbelievers? by Nobody: 6:10pm On Jun 04, 2017

nurusystem:
you don't know your bible my friend, formula dodge, those things are not what you think he was, this are Paul arrangements, ideas and opinions. don't worry you'll become a Muslim soon.

You are entitled to your opinions. We know where Jesus is now. He is alive forever. On the right hand throne of God Almighty. We also know that Jesus is the Judge on the last day. Where is Mohammad? He is in his grave awaiting the judgement of the last day. When I speak to Jesus anytime, He answers me. When last did you speak to Mohammad? Hmmmm, he can never answer you. He is dead and buried.

Re: Is The Holy Spirit Present In The Life Of Both Believers And Unbelievers? by nurusystem(m): 9:19am On Jun 05, 2017

jfolorun:
You are entitled to your opinions. We know where Jesus is now. He is alive forever. On the right hand throne of God Almighty. We also know that Jesus is the Judge on the last day. Where is Mohammad? He is in his grave awaiting the judgement of the last day. When I speak to Jesus anytime, He answers me. When last did you speak to Mohammad? Hmmmm, he can never answer you. He is dead and buried.

Jesus said he would judge 12tribes of Israelite ,this shows he was only sent has a messenger to the isreal. not to the Muslim and not to the African countries Asian, Europe, or China.

Mathew 19:28
KJV:And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

the twelve tribe including Judas Iscariot who betrayed Jesus, 11disciples and Judas Iscariot who sale Jesus Christ

my questions is let remove Judas among the 12 disciples, please who will replace Judas tribe ?

to be countinue o.

Re: Is The Holy Spirit Present In The Life Of Both Believers And Unbelievers? by nurusystem(m): 9:38am On Jun 05, 2017

jfolorun:
You are entitled to your opinions. We know where Jesus is now. He is alive forever. On the right hand throne of God Almighty. We also know that Jesus is the Judge on the last day. Where is Mohammad? He is in his grave awaiting the judgement of the last day. When I speak to Jesus anytime, He answers me. When last did you speak to Mohammad? Hmmmm, he can never answer you. He is dead and buried.

you said Jesus Christ is performing miracles, but Jesus is lazy he can do anything, nothing for him to do but he always called for helper. he was just a messenger. sender, just read below

John 5:30

KJV:I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

don't call or mistake Jesus has God.

Re: Is The Holy Spirit Present In The Life Of Both Believers And Unbelievers? by Nobody: 11:58am On Jun 05, 2017

nurusystem:
you said Jesus Christ is performing miracles, but Jesus is lazy he can do anything, nothing for him to do but he always called for helper. he was just a messenger. sender, just read below

John 5:30

KJV:I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

don't call or mistake Jesus has God.

Re: Is The Holy Spirit Present In The Life Of Both Believers And Unbelievers? by Nobody: 12:22pm On Jun 05, 2017

nurusystem:
you said Jesus Christ is performing miracles, but Jesus is lazy he can do anything, nothing for him to do but he always called for helper. he was just a messenger. sender, just read below

John 5:30

KJV:I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

don't call or mistake Jesus has God.

Na you get your mouth o. Every intelligent person reading our posts knows that you are trying to be mischievous. I give up on you. You won't hear from me again

Re: Is The Holy Spirit Present In The Life Of Both Believers And Unbelievers? by Nobody: 12:37pm On Jun 05, 2017

Benekruku:
Where is the spirit in the first place?

Fiction!

"Emancipate yourself from mental slavery,None but yourself can free your mind"

That's true because your brain is a hoax because no one can see it. Don't tell me that the piece of soft tissue in your head controls everything that you do or that you just believed the white man. Since no one can see your brain, then it doesn't exist. Even if you tried to convince people that it in fact does, then it is strange that you still believe that it controls everything you do. Just that soft matter? My point is that you shouldn't condemn others because they believe differently. No one needs to convince you that either Holy Spirit or Evil Spirit exists. Maybe if you study your philosophy or Metaphysics further, then you will findout. You can also ask the occultic men and women, they will tell you.

Re: Is The Holy Spirit Present In The Life Of Both Believers And Unbelievers? by rickyponting504(m): 10:31pm On Jun 06, 2017

Holy Spirit is an entity on its own embodying the perfect righteousness of Jesus Christ our Lord. a believer is granted a grace to have the Holy Spirit in them only when they truly believe in Christ as their saviour. while on the contrary every human being is given something called the conscience. this conscience is part of makes up a human as to know the difference between good and evil. so unbelievers are directed by the conscience in them in doing good. while the perfect righteousness of Christ is the Holy Spirit which every true believer must have. stay blessed.

Re: Is The Holy Spirit Present In The Life Of Both Believers And Unbelievers? by OtemAtum: 10:43pm On Jun 06, 2017

nosagold:
I beg to differ... the Holy Spirit can only be given to those who believe in God's only begotten Son; Jesus Christ. It is the Holy Spirit that then convicts you of your sin by reminding you of God's word. The unbeliever is not in Christ Jesus and light has nothing to do with darkness. So no, the unbeliever does not have the Holy Spirit.

It's either u don't have d holy spirit or the person whom u differ from does not have the holy spirit for you guys to be having opposite things ministered to you both concerning this topic.Now tell me, which of you lack the Holy ghost?

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