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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 9:25am On Jun 07, 2017
Missy89:


How can the details of something you haven't seen meet a legal definition of anything? Lol
I just wonder, they haven't seen d memo but cast judgement on alleged ''obstruction''? *phew* Anybody (including you and I) can write a memo; doesn't make it valid, does it?

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Ishilove: 9:34am On Jun 07, 2017
oyb:


if you cant dazzle em with intelligence, baffle them with bullshit
Lmao cheesy
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 10:09am On Jun 07, 2017
A report shows independent Vermont U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders made more than $1 million last year, when he ran for president as a Democrat.

How about giving half to the poor Bernie?


He is a capitalist afterall

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 10:12am On Jun 07, 2017
Missy89:


How can the details of something you haven't seen meet a legal definition of anything? Lol


That's because he desperately wants it to be.. Welcome to 2017 journalism.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 10:58am On Jun 07, 2017
Rand Paul: "If the Barack Obama administration used intelligence for political purposes, this is a really, really serious abuse of power."

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 11:12am On Jun 07, 2017
ICE arrests 70 criminal illegal immigrants in massive sting across Texas and Oklahoma
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by TheShopKeeper(m): 2:30pm On Jun 07, 2017
Trump taps Christopher Wray to head FBI

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/07/trump-fbi-director-nominee-christopher-wray-239238

President Donald Trump will nominate Christopher Wray as the next director of the FBI, he announced on Twitter on Wednesday, the day before ousted FBI Director James Comey is due to testify at a high-stakes Senate hearing.

"I will be nominating Christopher A. Wray, a man of impeccable credentials, to be the new Director of the FBI. Details to follow," the president wrote.

Wray served as an assistant attorney general from 2003 to 2005 during the tenure of former President George W. Bush. He is currently a partner at the law firm King & Spalding, where he chairs its special matters and government investigations practice group.

At the Justice Department, Wray was the assistant attorney general in charge of the department’s criminal division. He was a member of Bush’s corporate fraud task force and led the task force charged with investigating the Enron scandal.

More recently, Wray acted as New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie’s personal attorney during the federal investigation into lane closures on the George Washington Bridge that were put in place by members of Christie’s administration as political retribution for a mayor who did not support the governor’s reelection campaign.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by KratosCorp: 2:48pm On Jun 07, 2017
Does this sound familiar, peeps?

Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 3:59pm On Jun 07, 2017
Hmmmm

Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 4:03pm On Jun 07, 2017
NYC to spend $26 million of taxpayer dollars to illegal immigrants facing deportation (How About USA Citizens)
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by rakish(m): 4:03pm On Jun 07, 2017
KratosCorp:
The arrogance and stupidity of folks with your thought pattern towards Islam is so nauseating.

Now go and check it: Here is a list of islamic terror jihads since the past 38 years.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks

This does not include the terrors of the Othorman Empire nor the invasion of Usman Danfodio and a host of other such Jihadist movements in countries and cultures that are so far away from Mecca.

Dude, I don't know if your skull will be able to absorb it, but the truth is, Islam is out for one thing: GLOBAL DOMINATION.

Islam is a full scale political philosophy that is eternally anti-western culture and civilization.

ISLAM IS NOT A RELIGION. It only has a religious institution, just as it has legal, judicial, economic, educational, and social institutions.

ONLY CRAZY PEOPLE CALL ISLAM A MERE RELIGION.

Read through my words carefully. Why are we having the incessant attacks now? They were not like this 30years ago. I can't be stupid to rule out the fact that there was no terror attacks back then. It was not close to what we have now.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by TheShopKeeper(m): 4:10pm On Jun 07, 2017

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 4:29pm On Jun 07, 2017
DNI Coats: "I have never felt pressure" by Pres. Trump or administration to "interfere in any way" regarding any ongoing investigation.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Missy89(f): 4:30pm On Jun 07, 2017
stanech:
Hmmmm

I think THE FIVE is the best show on cable tv thou. Havent seen it in a while
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by KratosCorp: 4:34pm On Jun 07, 2017
Christians aren't offended because they know these facts do not apply to Jesus.

Buddhists aren't offended because they know these facts do not apply to Buddha.

Why, then, are Muslims offended?

Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 4:49pm On Jun 07, 2017
Missy89:


I think THE FIVE is the best show on cable tv thou. Havent seen it in a while


I do not miss it for anything. It is a great show.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Missy89(f): 6:58pm On Jun 07, 2017
Comey's opening statement tomorrow released by the Senate intel committee
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by schwarzkopf(m): 7:16pm On Jun 07, 2017
Just gat tip of the iceberg on #comeyday, and I feel like calling sick on all tomorrow engagements. The Orange clown is def going down.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by schwarzkopf(m): 7:21pm On Jun 07, 2017
KratosCorp:
Does this sound familiar, peeps?


Hey you piece of Biafra nematode and a r3tarded tribalist with a sickening Israeli asss worshiping. No one in your bloodline dead, living or unborn can kiss the sole of the shoe of any liberal. You are a shitty, unwanted and accursed pos.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Missy89(f): 7:31pm On Jun 07, 2017
Comey's statement destroys democrats narrative of Russian collusion
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by schwarzkopf(m): 7:36pm On Jun 07, 2017
Bulllshittt!!!! The cheeto is in hot waters, clear case of obstruction of justice is already established. Even the sissies up at the Senate hearings today are willing to spill shhhit in private.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by KratosCorp: 7:45pm On Jun 07, 2017
Every human being is fully aware that there was never such a collusion anywhere.

Fortunately, the entire left and its paid falsehood peddling gangs in the mainstream media have collectively invested their entire political and social capital into that crappy and fraudlent illusion of a collusion. And once their lame burble gets bursted - as it would, soon - their entire careers and foundations will come crashing to an abrupt end.

That will be one massive red pill that will wakeup millions of gutless people who are still currently giving those gangs of executive vandals the benefit of doubt.

Missy89:
Comey's statement destroys democrats narrative of Russian collusion

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by schwarzkopf(m): 7:49pm On Jun 07, 2017
R3tards are on a meltdown, no obstruction yet all of them always forget about their meetings with ambassador kiyslak. Y'all are in for a long haul. The lock her up slogan coming back to hunt the losers.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by rakish(m): 8:16pm On Jun 07, 2017
Trump invited Comey for dinner. He first asked him if he wants and likes his job. Then as the conversation progresses he asked for comey's loyalty. Comey promised to give him honesty. Trump changed his words to honest loyalty. He invited Comey to the white house, had a one on one conversation with Comey. Trump asked Comey to let the Michael Flynn investigation go calling Flynn a good guy. Comey promised to hasten the investigation. Trump again asked for loyalty from Comey. Trump called Comey and asked him to make the cloud surrounding his Russian campaign probe go away. He assured Comey he did nothing wrong even though his campaign staff might. Trump fired Comey.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Missy89(f): 8:26pm On Jun 07, 2017
rakish:
Trump invited Comey for dinner. He first asked him if he wants and likes his job. Then as the conversation progresses he asked for comey's loyalty. Comey promised to give him honesty. Trump changed his words to honest loyalty. He invited Comey to the white house, had a one on one conversation with Comey. Trump asked Comey to let the Michael Flynn investigation go calling Flynn a good guy. Comey promised to hasten the investigation. Trump called Comey and asked him to make the cloud surrounding his Russian campaign probe go away. He assured Comey he did nothing wrong even though his campaign staff might. Trump fired Comey.

You conveniently left out this part where Comey said

I did not understand the President to be talking about the broader investigation into Russia or possible links to his campaign.

I explained that we had briefed the leadership of Congress on exactly which individuals we were investigating and that we had told those Congressional leaders that we were not personally investigating President Trump. I reminded him I had previously told him that. He repeatedly told me, "We need to get that fact out."

The President went on to say that if there were some "satellite" associates of his who did something wrong, it would be good to find that out, but that he hadn't done anything wrong and hoped I would find a way to get it out that we weren't investigating him.

January 6, and, as he had done previously, expressed his disgust for the allegations and strongly denied them. He said he was considering ordering me to investigate the alleged incident to prove it didn't happen. I replied that he should give that careful thought because it might create a narrative that we were investigating him personally, which we weren't, and because it was very difficult to prove a negative. He said he would think about it and asked me to think about it.


So Trump wanted Comey to investigate the so called pee tape and never asked Comey to stop any Russian collusion investigation (in fact he wanted to know if someone in his team was complicit). He was frustrated Comey told him multiple times he is not under investigation but wont say it in public. The only bad part from Trump in these statement is the Micheal Flynn investigation but Comey isnt even saying Trump obstructed that investigation

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by rakish(m): 8:40pm On Jun 07, 2017
Missy89:


You conveniently left out this part where Comey said

I did not understand the President to be talking about the broader investigation into Russia or possible links to his campaign.

I explained that we had briefed the leadership of Congress on exactly which individuals we were investigating and that we had told those Congressional leaders that we were not personally investigating President Trump. I reminded him I had previously told him that. He repeatedly told me, "We need to get that fact out."

The President went on to say that if there were some "satellite" associates of his who did something wrong, it would be good to find that out, but that he hadn't done anything wrong and hoped I would find a way to get it out that we weren't investigating him.

January 6, and, as he had done previously, expressed his disgust for the allegations and strongly denied them. He said he was considering ordering me to investigate the alleged incident to prove it didn't happen. I replied that he should give that careful thought because it might create a narrative that we were investigating him personally, which we weren't, and because it was very difficult to prove a negative. He said he would think about it and asked me to think about it.


So Trump wanted Comey to investigate the so called pee tape and never asked Comey to stop any Russian collusion investigation (in fact he wanted to know if someone in his team was complicit). He was frustrated Comey told him multiple times he is not under investigation but wont say it in public. The only bad part from Trump in these statement is the Micheal Flynn but Comey isnt even saying Trump obstructed that investigation

You do not expect Comey to jump into conclusion do you? Intent, is what is needed here and to some extent, I feel it has been established. You don't expect Trump to blurt things out directly, there are different ways to send a sign or signal. Ofcourse, Comey expressly told Congress that he is not investing Trump personally. We all know that. I need loyalty, I expect loyalty. Those are the notable words of Trump to an FBI director who is investigating his campaign. Do not forget Trump told Comey he wants the Russian cloud on the white house to go away as it is impeding on his governance.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Missy89(f): 8:46pm On Jun 07, 2017
rakish:
You do not expect Comey to jump into conclusion do you? Ofcourse, Comey expressly told Congress that he is not investing Trump personally. We all know that. I need loyalty, I expect loyalty. Those are the notable words of Trump to an FBI director who is investigating his campaign.

You do not expect someone in the center of the controversy to jump into conclusions but you are.

Comey told Trump 3 times is he not under investigation
Comey wont say it in public and Trump was frustrated
Trump wanted Comey to investigate the pee tape
Trump wanted to know if members of his campaign colluded with Russia
Trump never pressured Comey about dropping the Russian collusion investigation

Those are the facts.

You can keep spinning it if you want

rakish:
Do not forget Trump told Comey he wants the Russian cloud on the white house to go away as it is impeding on his governance.

Read the full context

He asked what we could do to “lift the cloud.” I responded that
we were investigating the matter as quickly as we could, and that there would be
great benefit, if we didn’t find anything, to our having done the work well. He
agreed
, but then re-emphasized the problems this was causing him.
Then the President asked why there had been a congressional hearing about
Russia the previous week – at which I had, as the Department of Justice directed,
confirmed the investigation into possible coordination between Russia and the
Trump campaign. I explained the demands from the leadership of both parties in
Congress for more information, and that Senator Grassley had even held up the
confirmation of the Deputy Attorney General until we briefed him in detail on the
investigation. I explained that we had briefed the leadership of Congress on
exactly which individuals we were investigating and that we had told those
Congressional leaders that we were not personally investigating President Trump.
I reminded him I had previously told him that. He repeatedly told me, “We need
to get that fact out.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by rakish(m): 9:00pm On Jun 07, 2017
Missy89:


You do not expect someone in the center of the controversy to jump into conclusions but you are.



Comey told Trump 3 times is he not under investigation
Comey wont say it in public and Trump was frustrated
Trump wanted Comey to investigate the pee tape
Trump wanted to know if members of his campaign colluded with Russia
Trump never pressured Comey about dropping the Russian collusion investigation

Those are the facts.

You can keep spinning it if you want
Like seriously? How did I conclude? Again, Comey told Congress that he is not personally Investigating him. We all know that. But we also know that Trump was in control of his campaign team, so he can't be left out of the investigation. It is a Trump campaign that led to his victory. The FBI is an independent body here Missy, and President needs to be careful when it deals with an independent agency. Asking an employee if he likes his job before telling him you expect loyalty speaks volumes, it rattles an employee who loves his job and wants to keep it. Telling him to let an investigation go speaks volumes. Telling Comey To clear the Russian cloud while voicing out his displeasure of what is going on is indirectly telling an employee you want the probe to end in your favor and it goes on.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Missy89(f): 9:04pm On Jun 07, 2017
rakish:
Like seriously? How did I conclude? Again, Comey told Congress that he is not personally Investigating him. We all know that. But we also know that Trump was in control of his campaign team, so he can't be left out of the investigation. It is a Trump campaign that led to his victory. The FBI is an independent body here Missy, and President needs to be careful when it deals with an independent agency. Asking an employee if he likes his job before telling him you expect loyalty speaks volumes, it rattles an employee who loves his job and wants to keep it. Telling him to let an investigation go speaks volumes. To clear the Russian cloud while voicing out your displeasure of what is going on is indirectly telling a employee your want the probe to end in your favor and it goes on.

Again read the full context

Trump asked how he could lift the Russia cloud since he is not under investigation and Comey said this :

I explained that we had briefed the leadership of Congress on
exactly which individuals we were investigating and that we had told those
Congressional leaders that we were not personally investigating President Trump
.
I reminded him I had previously told him that. He repeatedly told me, “We need
to get that fact out
.


Meaning the Russia investigation has nothing to do with Trump.

Trump agreed that if there are members of his team that work with Russia, It should be investigated. Comey confirmed that when he said this :

The President went on to say that if there were some "satellite" associates of his who did something wrong, it would be good to find that out, but that he hadn't done anything wrong and hoped I would find a way to get it out that we weren't investigating him.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by PDPGuy: 9:14pm On Jun 07, 2017
Fun fact: 70% of the world's lawyers live in the US shocked

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by happney65: 9:21pm On Jun 07, 2017
The President then returned to the topic of Mike Flynn, saying, "He is a good guy and has been through a lot." He repeated that Flynn hadn’t done anything wrong on his calls with the Russians, but had misled the Vice President. He then said, "I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go. He is a good guy. I hope you can let this go." I replied only that "he is a good guy." (In fact, I had a positive experience dealing with Mike Flynn when he was a colleague as Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency at the beginning of my term at FBI.) I did not say I would "let this go."

The President returned briefly to the problem of leaks. I then got up and left out the door by the grandfather clock, making my way through the large group of people waiting there, including Mr. Priebus and the Vice President.

I immediately prepared an unclassified memo of the conversation about Flynn and discussed the matter with FBI senior leadership. I had understood the President to be requesting that we drop any investigation of Flynn in connection with false statements about his conversations with the Russian ambassador in December. I did not understand the President to be talking about the broader investigation into Russia or possible links to his campaign. I could be wrong, but I took him to be focusing on what had just happened with Flynn’s departure and the controversy around his account of his phone calls. Regardless, it was very concerning, given the FBI’s role as an independent investigative agency.

I wonder what the hypocrites would have said if it was Obama that told Comey to let Hilary Clinton go..

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 9:31pm On Jun 07, 2017
Trump asked the FBI director for loyalty to him, not only asked, but said he expected it. The FBI is independent and does not answer to the president. Trump made a veiled threat concerning Comey's job. FBI directors are appointed for ten years to prevent any question of conflict of interest. Trump asked Comey to stop the investigation of Flynn. Highly improper. Trump should not be discussing an ongoing investigation with the FBI director. Especially one concerning an associate of Trump's, and that could affect Trump or his administration. Trump repeatedly made "suggestions" that Comey make the Russia investigation go away, because it affected his job as President. Comey understood what Trump meant. Comey told other agents about the conversations and spoke to Sessions and another attorney in the DOJ. Trump admitted he fired Trump because of Russia. To meet obstruction, there must be an attempt to change the pace of an investigation, stop it, or change it, and those actions must show that that was the intent. Trump tried to obstruct the Russia investigation, gave reasons why he wanted it stopped, and fired the investigator because he wouldn't obey orders. Remember that this is only a written statement. It will be fleshed out tomorrow by questions. This is not a nothing burger. As for telling Trump he wasn't personally under investigation, that's not unusual and could have changed since Comey left.

Now replace the name Trump with the name Clinton/Obama and see Republicans hyperventilating. Rightly so!

If it smells, it is rotten.

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