durentchigozie:
You're an electrical engineering graduate, you cant wire a house.
You're a mech engineering graduate, you can't fix your car.

They keep shouting "engineering" when their skulls is filled with only abstract. Back then in school, they didn't let us hear word "Engineering is a profressional course" bla bla bla.
Every parent wants at least one of their kids to be an engineer. As an engineering student, You look down on physical sciences (chemistry, maths et al). We all know what the physical sciences are bringing to the table, what are engineering students bringing to the table? Other than eyeing one Oil company job, they wouldn't still get after graduation.

Even the roadsides are better than the ones littered around campus with shoulders raised claiming engine boys.

Engineering in Nigeria is a joke, quote me anywhere.

Engineers are not Technologists, Technicians or Artisans. We design, construct and maintain structures using scientific principles.

Seems the OP got frustrated with his course of study cos he couldn't secure an engineering course

durentchigozie:
You're an electrical engineering graduate, you cant wire a house.
You're a mech engineering graduate, you can't fix your car.

They keep shouting "engineering" when their skulls is filled with only abstract. Back then in school, they didn't let us hear word "Engineering is a profressional course" bla bla bla.
Every parent wants at least one of their kids to be an engineer. As an engineering student, You look down on physical sciences (chemistry, maths et al). We all know what the physical sciences are bringing to the table, what are engineering students bringing to the table? Other than eyeing one Oil company job, they wouldn't still get after graduation.

Even the roadsides are better than the ones littered around campus with shoulders raised claiming engine boys.

Engineering in Nigeria is a joke, quote me anywhere.

If u actually understood what engineering is all about , u wouldnt be posting this trash...

U hear mechanical engineering and ur little mind quickly goes to auto repairs,

U hear elect engr. And. Once again ur little and myopic mind quickly goes to house wiring...

The person that created this thread (OP) is a loser.
He probably had looked for admission many years in d field of Engineering or had got an encounter with an Engr who boost and loves his profession and wat d course has turned him into positively.

That u graduated as a doctor doesn't mean u can now go ahead, open someone​'s stomach and fix it. No, u hv to attach to another bigger/more experienced Doctor for years, watching him, learning more and perfecting.

#As for me, I am a practising Engr, learnt more (skills) after graduating & I am contributing in my own little way to my country.

Don't be envious of Us. Try 2 b d best in ur own discipline and help build your Country!

Chuukwudi:


The system is Challenging only when it comes to theory. Imagine some sort of restructuring where your teachers are there to guide you hands-on on practicals, a scenario where theoretical examination contributes only 20% and practicals 80%. Exam malpractice will reduce drastically, only then will true learning begin. Because, practically speaking, what you can't do, you can't do.

Speaking of creativity, Creativity is built by observation of trends, patterns, processes and activities over time. How you eventually combine them on your own is completely your business and that's where the creativity comes in.

How can you be creative when you have not even seen nor used a Transistor, zener diodes, etc though you can draw diagrams of it and accurately perform all calculations as regards to it?

Creativity entails building on existing forms based on patterns observed by doing. In music, one has to play lots of songs, lots and lots of songs, study chords, Harmony, counterpoints, polyphony, cadences, etc.
How he decides to combine them on his own is what makes him creative. We don't do lots of practicals on school, we are not properly guided. The few of us who are practically good achieved that on their own. Most of our students code. No teacher taught us that.

Creativity is built by doing, our lecturers do not teach us how to do. Even though they give us practical based assignments, some students pay technicians to do theirs for them.

this is really sad.. I thought the same way medicine teaches applies here.. Really sorry bro..

femi4:
Engineers are not Technologists, Technicians or Artisans. We design, construct and maintain structures using scientific principles.

Seems the OP got frustrated with his course of study cos he couldn't secure an engineering course

How can you construct when you have no practical knowledge.
You claim that you are meant to supervise technologists，technicians and artisans when you cannot even recognise what you designed when you see it in real life.

What the op pointed out is exactly why we cant boast of common 5000 Megawatts of electricit9y after spending more than 30 billion dollars in 18 years.
Imagine a situation where a power plant have been under construction for more than 10 years but still uncompleted.
Engineers my nyash.

johnmars:
I'm a 200level engin boy UNIBEN and I'm already learning programming and taking some short courses online to develop a new skill why? All they teach engineering is trash! Imagine solving maths and reading dry books to be a qualified engineer. Carry drawing board every Thursday and draw till 6pm to be a qualified engineer. I swear it's all self deception. Engineering student needs to wake up call they know nothing .

Please can you share some of the online courses that you have been taking? I've been tryna get involved in one.

durentchigozie:
nah. I always wanted to study Chemistry and I did.

Please what does chemistry bring to the table. I will like you to lecture me on this.

adedolapo189:
What you guyz cant understand is that we are trained to design not to do those menial job. We are not technician! i repeat we are not technician! We are engineers!

I admire ur reply,we design my brother. And to you op boys dey wey sabi dey tin.dont tink because of wey u are and wat u see around wey u are,and u start tinking dats hw every engineering student is.bros civil boys sabi book. #teamcivil

telim:
It is better you learn a skill than to waste your time to study engineering in any of the useless universities we have in Nigeria. Technician are a million times better than the useless engineering lectures and graduate in Nigerian universities that knows nothing but cram outdated theories plagiarized by the useless lecturers without basic practical skills.

A lot of them claim they design systems but unfortunately even Nigerian engr proffs that often plagiarized books are nothing but quacks that are just interested in stipends they get from the government as salary and areas, they can't design any system it is all lies and even if they do it is something that is absolute basic.

If you want to study engineering just travel to tear one country or else just learn a skill on Lynda, tutsplus etc if your parents are poor.

IF YOU WANT TO WASTE YOUR TIME, HAVE ZERO SKILL, GAMBLE WITH YOUR FUTURE, LEAVE IN DECEPTION THEN STUDY ENGINEERING IN NIGERIA.

The government knows Nigerian engineers are certified quacks that is why they depends on cheap expertraits from Lebanon, Chinese, Bangladesh and India for any big projects.

You are wrong. Many of us who succeed in furthering our studies abroad are doing excellently well.

durentchigozie:
You're an electrical engineering graduate, you cant wire a house.
You're a mech engineering graduate, you can't fix your car.

They keep shouting "engineering" when their skulls is filled with only abstract. Back then in school, they didn't let us hear word "Engineering is a profressional course" bla bla bla.
Every parent wants at least one of their kids to be an engineer. As an engineering student, You look down on physical sciences (chemistry, maths et al). We all know what the physical sciences are bringing to the table, what are engineering students bringing to the table? Other than eyeing one Oil company job, they wouldn't still get after graduation.

Even the roadsides are better than the ones littered around campus with shoulders raised claiming engine boys.

Engineering in Nigeria is a joke, quote me anywhere.

What I'm interested in sir is ur course of study, the country u are studying in or studied in. And ow practical were they

femi4:
Engineers are not Technologists, Technicians or Artisans. We design, construct and maintain structures using scientific principles.

Seems the OP got frustrated with his course of study cos he couldn't secure an engineering course

desiigner:


Dude, obviously you don't know sh*t about engineering, it's never a job of Electrical engineer to be doing wiring, that's why we have technicians. In the simplest of terms, an engineer is a problem solver. They take basic science information and use the rules of mathematics to solve problems and design new products. Technicians are the "doers." They are workers that are highly trained to perform specific tasks. They generally follow procedures developed by engineers.
It works like that everywhere not peculiar to Nigerian. Read up and grow up man.

UnimkeAk:


If u actually understood what engineering is all about , u wouldnt be posting this trash...

U hear mechanical engineering and ur little mind quickly goes to auto repairs,

U hear elect engr. And. Once again ur little and myopic mind quickly goes to house wiring...

PromiseUche:
The person that created this thread (OP) is a loser.
He probably had looked for admission many years in d field of Engineering or had got an encounter with an Engr who boost and loves his profession and wat d course has turned him into positively.

That u graduated as a doctor doesn't mean u can now go ahead, open someone​'s stomach and fix it. No, u hv to attach to another bigger/more experienced Doctor for years, watching him, learning more and perfecting.

#As for me, I am a practising Engr, learnt more (skills) after graduating & I am contributing in my own little way to my country.

Don't be envious of Us. Try 2 b d best in ur own discipline and help build your Country!

NO Single reasonable reply in sight. Keep beating around the bush.

mojeed4:


Please what does chemistry bring to the table. I will like be get educated on this

I used my chemistry undergraduate knowledge to open a paint industry where I make and sell paints. And yes, I learnt this in school.

Can the same be said of an engineering graduate?

durentchigozie:
I used my chemistry undergraduate knowledge to open a paint industry where I make and sell paints. And yes, I learnt this in school.

Can the same be said of an engineering graduate?

Oga chemical engineers do the same,as a matter of fact companies prefer to hire chemical engineers than to employ someone that studied chemistry, moreover chemical engineers were also thought how to make paints in school( that does not mean we dont have people that learnt how to do the paint without going to school ) so say something new.

johnmars:
I'm a 200level engin boy UNIBEN and I'm already learning programming and taking some short courses online to develop a new skill why? All they teach engineering is trash! Imagine solving maths and reading dry books to be a qualified engineer. Carry drawing board every Thursday and draw till 6pm to be a qualified engineer. I swear it's all self deception. Engineering student needs to wake up call they know nothing .

Who's this one oga are you the only uniben engineering student no u won't solve maths or do engineering drawing you'll offer courses like law. Take a chill pill

I don't talk much I graduated as a computer engr my skills are below

U may only fully understand if u are in the field.Electrical engineering and other branch of engineering is much more than fixing any menial things like house wirin, repairin cars etc.

Ikennablue:
This is a very disgraceful thing to say. Shame! An engineer saying he cn't fix his car, wire his house or fix his gen because he is trained to design. Shame!

Classroom education is so overrated.....craftsmanship isn't what you gain by reading books but by getting things done. I started doing these things before I left primary school regardless of the fact that I didn't receive ANY FORMAL TRAINING whatsoever. I always had interest in seeing stuffs get done...from watching and helping my dad's mechanic fix his danfo that year, to ruining electrical appliances and finding means to fix it so folks don't know when they got back, to servicing our I better pass my neighbor generator, making model cars and toys....the list goes on jare. I reall that year when I was hustling for Uni admission, I thought it'd be way better to go for poly cos I would have the opportunity to do loads of practical but na big lie o....I still have my workshop overall in perfect shape till tomorrow.


I repeat, CLASSROOM EDUCATION IS OVERRATED!!!

johnmars:
I'm a 200level engin boy UNIBEN and I'm already learning programming and taking some short courses online to develop a new skill why? All they teach engineering is trash! Imagine solving maths and reading dry books to be a qualified engineer. Carry drawing board every Thursday and draw till 6pm to be a qualified engineer. I swear it's all self deception. Engineering student needs to wake up call they know nothing .

How is elect at UNIBEN? Gist me.

Op am not surprised...since twas baba sukura dat design ur building structure......and twas baba kamoru dah connected ur building electricity....

I guess u av really not meet dos dah studied engineering

I hail all engineering student
Civil engrn
Electrical engrn
Petrochem engrn
Mech engrn
Computer engr


We guys rule let dem keep shoutn


Since dey put in for engineering but dey gave dem Food science.......

obyrich:
Another one! OP kindly visit any 330KV transmission station with that guy who wired your house and test his knowledge of electrical power and equipment. Charlatans everywhere. You do not need a degree in Engineering to wire a house but to install and maintain a 150MVA transformer,you must be a skilled engineer.

Ask that guy that wired your house what is called 'load balancing'.

I do not blame you guys but the useless corruption in Nigeria that allows a drug dispenser to be called a doctor!

guy forget. My friend who is a mechanical engineer had to go back to a roadside mechanical to learn how to fix a gen

although the angle from which the op addressed the topic is a bit flawed, still he has a point.
our education system is stuck in the early 90s. no major improvement.. u have to move abroad to really understand and explore your potential ....
most Nigerian students are very eager but the system has a way of frustrating you...
modelling, designing , programming, troubleshooting are lacking in our education system. most uni engineering workshops have been are very terrible.no invention can come out of that and there are very few lecturers who are interested in exploring new possibilities. I get upset when I see Lebanese and other developing nations citizens heading most projects here. not that we can't do it , but mehn the system is bad.

a 14yrs old Indian boy taught me how to program ics and some other computer electronic stuff over the net. most Naija grads can't do that . cos this are really awkward here. lots of great potential wasting away in Naija.


u can argue all u want.. ancient theory is what we are still very good at in Naija....

obyrich:
Another one! OP kindly visit any 330KV transmission station with that guy who wired your house and test his knowledge of electrical power and equipment. Charlatans everywhere. You do not need a degree in Engineering to wire a house but to install and maintain a 150MVA transformer,you must be a skilled engineer.

Ask that guy that wired your house what is called 'load balancing'.

I do not blame you guys but the useless corruption in Nigeria that allows a drug dispenser to be called a doctor!

After listening to the replies from Various Engineers in this thread,
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I have come to a final conclusion, that
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ENGINEERING IN NIGERIAN UNIVERSITIES is a SCAM...

hardeywhale2:
Op am not surprised...since twas baba sukura dat design ur building structure......and twas baba kamoru dah connected ur building electricity....

I guess u av really not meet dos dah studied engineering

I hail all engineering student
Civil engrn
Electrical engrn
Petrochem engrn
Mech engrn
Computer engr


We guys rule let dem keep shoutn


Since dey put in for engineering but dey gave dem Food science.......

OUR STEP DOWN TRANSFORMER (engineers handiwork) don burn, FIVE TIMES last month and this month...
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since when "Oga Electro" wire our house for SEPTEMBER 2001, our wiring never burn once...
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#Explain Why

einscienstist:



After listening to the replies from Various Engineers in this thread,
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I have come to a final conclusion, that
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ENGINEERING IN NIGERIAN UNIVERSITIES is a SCAM...

bro. It baffles me oo. I asked a simple question. None of them could answer it. Some are even throwing insults

ilevic:






guy forget. My friend who is a mechanical engineer had to go back to a roadside mechanical to learn how to fix a gen

And you think that he needed a degree in mechanical engineering to learn how to fix a generator?
What is the essence of establishing technical colleges?

Every engineer who passed through a technical college could fix a generator or wire a house. Those things are learnt in technical schools.

The curriculum of engineering studies is designed in such a way that you do not need a basic technical education to gain admission into the university. The training of engineers will encompass those technical knowledge but one would need to practise in the field to entrench those knowledge.

So your friend who went to learn how to fix a generator is doing what is expected of him, maybe he didn't have enough practice time during his days in the university, perhaps he couldn't get placement in a relevant industry.

Please learn to ask questions politely on issues to lack knowledge on.

peace

durentchigozie:
bro. It baffles me oo. I asked a simple question. None of them could answer it. Some are even throwing insults

Your questions have been sufficiently answered with addition of superfluous information only that your bigotry has prevented you from learning.

There is a wide chasm of difference in curriculum content between engineering studies and technical skill acquisition. An aeronautical engineer will not be an expert pilot. It is only in a dense country like Nigeria that a governor who is not properly certified will jump into the cockpit of plane and finish his career!

My dad retired from JB as a supervisor in the pre stressing department. He was a skilled fitter with only standard 6 certificate. He was never called an engineer. There were German engineers whom he reported to. Those engineers were more knowledgable than him but he was more skilled than them. Repetitive practice improves skill.

I read where you boasted of using your chemistry skill to open a paint making company. While I would like to encourage your entrepreneurial acumen, I would like to remind you that you don't need a degree in chemistry to make paint. There are soap and paint making skill acquisition centres everywhere. I know many unlettered painters who execute painting jobs with the paints they produce themselves.
That does not mean they are the best. A chemist who understudies them, will come up with a more standard product. That's why paint manufacturing companies still employ graduate chemists.

teamsynergy:
although the angle from which the op addressed the topic is a bit flawed, still he has a point.
our education system is stuck in the early 90s. no major improvement.. u have to move abroad to really understand and explore your potential ....
most Nigerian students are very eager but the system has a way of frustrating you...
modelling, designing , programming, troubleshooting are lacking in our education system. most uni engineering workshops have been are very terrible.no invention can come out of that and there are very few lecturers who are interested in exploring new possibilities. I get upset when I see Lebanese and other developing nations citizens heading most projects here. not that we can't do it , but mehn the system is bad.

a 14yrs old Indian boy taught me how to program ics and some other computer electronic stuff over the net. most Naija grads can't do that . cos this are really awkward here. lots of great potential wasting away in Naija.


u can argue all u want.. ancient theory is what we are still very good at in Naija....

durentchigozie:
You're an electrical engineering graduate, you cant wire a house.
You're a mech engineering graduate, you can't fix your car.

They keep shouting "engineering" when their skulls is filled with only abstract. Back then in school, they didn't let us hear word "Engineering is a profressional course" bla bla bla.
Every parent wants at least one of their kids to be an engineer. As an engineering student, You look down on physical sciences (chemistry, maths et al). We all know what the physical sciences are bringing to the table, what are engineering students bringing to the table? Other than eyeing one Oil company job, they wouldn't still get after graduation.

Even the roadsides are better than the ones littered around campus with shoulders raised claiming engine boys.

Engineering in Nigeria is a joke, quote me anywhere.

I understand that we are all entitled to our opinions, but I'd advice you think deeply abut what you come online to post because what you have up there belittles your reasoning as a person and as a graduate.

So any Engineer that can wire a house or fix a car is a good engineer?

Sit down, let me educate you.

Get a dictionary or use the internet. You really need to sharpen your mind as it appears dusty and obsolete.

21st century cars have certified service stations with certified personnel, you may loose your warranty if you do ITK.

21st century buildings need a first-class contracting and consulting team to wire a house.

If you had been following the news, you'd have heard about the Grenfell Tower London fire accident. Over 17 people dead and a building running into millions of dollars destroyed because of a faulty fridge.

Perhaps the owner was Nigeria and was trying to use his backward Nigerian sense to repair a machine he was never trained to handle.

Mechanical and Electrical Engineering has over 20 specializations. You can't be a master of all. You pick your specialty or interest and you perfect your knowledge in that area. So not every MIT Mechanical Engineering Graduate will be able to name all the parts of a car, more so repair it. It's common sense.

I really hope I was able to make a point and you were able to pick a lesson or two.

durentchigozie:
exactly what am saying. Medical students work in their fields likewise law students.

Then something must be done about it

einscienstist:



OUR STEP DOWN TRANSFORMER (engineers handiwork) don burn, FIVE TIMES last month and this month...
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since when "Oga Electro" wire our house for SEPTEMBER 2001, our wiring never burn once...
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#Explain Why

Ur transformer dat got burnt 5 tyms is how old(who knows maybe its 20yrs old sef)....its weak nd need replacement as if u will contribute sef if ur building is bill for replacement....dey r managing it for u guys.....

Only if Oga electro can design electricity connection for highrise building...I meant like 25 stories....

Give ur building to him weneva u r fortunate to build 25 stories......only den will u know d importance of an engineer.....

I rep Civil engrn anyways

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hardeywhale2:



Ur transformer dat got burnt 5 tyms is how old(who knows maybe its 20yrs old sef)....its weak nd need replacement as if u will contribute sef if ur building is bill for replacement....dey r managing it for u guys.....

Only if Oga electro can design electricity connection for highrise building...I meant like 25 stories....

Give ur building to him weneva u r fortunate to build 25 stories......only den will u know d importance of an engineer.....

I rep Civil engrn anyways

you failed... as the Transformer was supervised and declared NEW by the engineers working with Benin Electricity Distribution Company, Benin City.
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was even bought by an Engineer(Politician Tho)..
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I say make u explain(make I fit understand), instead you wan find fault for wetin another engineer like you Buy and Wire...
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Oga Electro Has Worked in NEPA as a "technician"....and has worked as an Electro for SEPLAT OIL AND GAS...as a "technician(he didn't goto school, but them see e work, take employ am... cos he's good)
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So..?? which course I go study for NIGERIAN University, when I go take become Technician...??
Cos "technician" come dey get Head pass "look and pass" Engineer..... (Supervising Engineer)