Intresting thread once more. Slowly I'm readjusting my mind from dismissing any claim to spirituality as bunkum to claims that they might really be true....

But I dunno. Spirits should have a spatio-temporal location to the physical world; a portal if you may; that can at least be observed by other humans or blundering machines.
The thing is; I don't know where the line is drawn between an individual's perception of a "spiritual" plane and the real spri interraction itself. I like definites. I like certainities. I like X being X and Y being Y. The whole shennanigan tends to dwell on "letting yourself go and just believe it as it comes along" but I dunno........
Seems like that's how you start believing anything

merahki:



Thank you Sarassin, I have been too busy to reply, I saw your mention though
For some reason, I wanted my reply to be deep, I dunno why! Lol
However, Ms Lazy Fickle wins, so she will respond (however she is honest, just not analytical and calculated enough right now, hasnt been since she saw your post too)

Here goes- I am happy you replied, and will take your last statement as a summary
...good triumphs over evil, always....
That statement is good enough for me
Thanks

(I also honestly meant no harm or disrespect with the Satan question, I just needed to clarify something to self, based on some comments I saw that were directed at you. I apologise if that offended you...for what it is worth, your answer to that made me very happy)
Cheers

No worries at all, I know full well you meant no offence...and none taken...and you are quite welcome.

merahki:



I am sorry (face palm)
Rhonda Bryne @ your visualisation question?

No. I've never heard of her.

Sorry.

fellis:


No. I've never heard of her.

Sorry.

No wahala
I read about visualisation from her book( your description of it was just like hers too, making me feel you read the book) ....
Cheers

merahki:



No wahala
I read about visualisation from her book( your description of it was just like hers too, making me feel you read the book) ....
Cheers

I read Neville Goddard and other authors. Mostly Neville's books because they are free.

@Sarrassin
Please how exactly is the OM NAMAHA SHIVAYA mantra done? Are we to pronounce all the words one after the other?
I ask because i also read somewhere that just by chanting the OM mantra alone, a lot can be achieved. Please throw more light especially with the right pronunciations. Thanks

Alphanancy:
@Sarrassin
Please how exactly is the OM NAMAHA SHIVAYA mantra done? Are we to pronounce all the words one after the other?
I ask because i also read somewhere that just by chanting the OM mantra alone, a lot can be achieved. Please throw more light especially with the right pronunciations. Thanks

It is OM NA-MA-HA SHI-VA-YA

In seven syllables with a rythmic chant with your focus firmly on the avatar of Lord Shiva. You should chant it first aloud then progressively in lower volume either 108 times or multiples thereof.

Lord Shiva poses you a paradox. How does one reconcile one's self to the state of a child?
Lord Shiva says, surrender to me and I will take care of you for life.

It is a flower that will grow within you.

Personally, it is a mantra I will recite everyday till the day I die.

SirWere:
Intresting thread once more. Slowly I'm readjusting my mind from dismissing any claim to spirituality as bunkum to claims that they might really be true....

But I dunno. Spirits should have a spatio-temporal location to the physical world; a portal if you may; that can at least be observed by other humans or blundering machines.
The thing is; I don't know where the line is drawn between an individual's perception of a "spiritual" plane and the real spri interraction itself. I like definites. I like certainities. I like X being X and Y being Y. The whole shennanigan tends to dwell on "letting yourself go and just believe it as it comes along" but I dunno........
Seems like that's how you start believing anything

Back in the day before the advent of the internet et al, it was old school. First Divinity college followed by Esoterica of Jewish Qabalah and then Mystical studies of the Hermes Corpus. Spiritual exercises were carried out in peer groups, the old fashioned way, we were taught to create group ascension vehicles, or if you like, “Chariots of Fire” in group circles to enable we the acolytes visit astral planes. The knowledge that groups of us had the same exact experiences, met and learned from the same entities probably preserved my sanity.

I understand completely your point of view. I would give anything for the certainty that X is X and Y being Y.

Anas09:

Don't even take Frank Seriously. He hasn't disvirgined a girl before, since he heard am celibate he has been hung up on it. I know he has been mastubating thinking about how it feels to disvirgin a girl.
Just ignore him.

Wha.....? You think too special of yourself sha. How needlessly self-important. You must feel like a gem.

The fact is, having sex with your likes will be a fate WORSE than boredom. Practically hellish, so to speak. And the poor fellow might start seeing demons in his dreams. Frank must be too human for that.

Anas09:

You seem not to have noticed that am not in the least concerned about what people's opinions of me are. I do what i do as i choose, not as you expect me to.

Stop claiming what you're not. You're too dogmatic and fanatically religious to consider people's opinions, so how can it even enter your dry head to think of "caring" about them. In your warped mind, anyone who disagrees with you is demon possessed. It makes one begin to wonder whether you're a demonic harrlot from ancient Babylon, projecting her own filth unto others.

Perhaps you don't know, you're a disgusting narcissistic psychopath. Now, that's ACCURATE. Exactly what you are.

Sarassin:


It is OM NA-MA-HA SHI-VA-YA

In seven syllables with a rythmic chant with your focus firmly on the avatar of Lord Shiva. You should chant it first aloud then progressively in lower volume either 108 times or multiples thereof.

Lord Shiva poses you a paradox. How does one reconcile one's self to the state of a child?
Lord Shiva says, surrender to me and I will take care of you for life.

It is a flower that will grow within you.

Personally, it is a mantra I will recite everyday till the day I die.

But then I have to say that if Namaha is used at the middle of a mantra like OM NAMAH SHIVAYA the "h" is and should be pronounced as a "h" in regular English and not nama as it might. But when the Namaha is at the end of a mantra like OM LAM NAMAH the "h" is pronounced as a "ha". They sound similar but there is a small difference in a "h" and a "ha". The bottom line is there are no silent letters in sanskrit. Then with the pronouncing of Shivay I want to verify as I am not in anyway a sanskrit expert is the "YA" pronounced as "yah" or "ye".

FlipGamBino:


But then I have to say that if Namaha is used at the middle of a mantra like OM NAMAH SHIVAYA the "h" is and should be pronounced as a "h" in regular English and not nama as it might. But when the Namaha is at the end of a mantra like OM LAM NAMAH the "h" is pronounced as a "ha". They sound similar but there is a small difference in a "h" and a "ha". The bottom line is there are no silent letters in sanskrit. Then with the pronouncing of Shivay I want to verify as I am not in anyway a sanskrit expert is the "YA" pronounced as "yah" or "ye".

Hi FlipGamBino, You are mainly right but there are slight regional variations to the pronouncement. The most important thing is to hold the avatar in one's mind and vibrate the mantra, therefore for a non Sanskrit speaker, the closest one will come to vibrating this mantra will be a subtle elongation of the "Ha". For a native speaker, it is inherent.

The vibratory pronouncement of Shiva in repetitive mantra is most definitely Shiva-"Yah".

Sarassin:



So, to answer your question, Yahweh was a vengeful, wrathful and warlike deity, would you wish to meet an entity like that?

so the Isrealites chose Yahweh as their deity because he suits their vengeful, wrathful and eye for an eye nature.

I then wonder why Baal was demonized, was it because he was a rival to Yahweh?

stonemasonn:
so the Isrealites chose Yahweh as their deity because he suits their vengeful, wrathful and eye for an eye nature.

I then wonder why Baal was demonized, was it because he was a rival to Yahweh?

Absolutely, Yahweh suited the requirements of a desert nomadic peoples who had to fight for a place to live. Baal on the other hand was the Grand Vizar of the Canaanite "EL" the eldest son, the "Rider of the Clouds" and the deity of rebirth and regeneration. The prophets of Yahweh demonised Baal but then appropriated all his characteristics to Yahweh.

stonemasonn:
so the Isrealites chose Yahweh as their deity because he suits their vengeful, wrathful and eye for an eye nature.

I then wonder why Baal was demonized, was it because he was a rival to Yahweh?

Yes Baal was demonized but truly as Sarassin said the need for Yahweh was eminent at the time, but as the isrealites got to Canaan the need for Yahweh subsided. Baal is the rider of the clouds this is his adorn and in the land of plenty a fertility deity was of more use. The impression that the isrealites were a one God people is not actually true. They worshipped many other deities, including Baal. Religious assimilation has been practised by the Isrealites for generations. This is taking the attributes of other deities and ascribing it to one. I said in a post earlier that this would have been religious reforms by king Josiah(debatable). But they were not the first, the Greeks used this method for centuries. It is even saidby Herodotus that hecules was originally an Egyptian deity and had his temples at the banks of the nile.

I wrote in a previous post that I had met all of my nephews and nieces pre-birth in the astral, they are mostly all grown now but we have been extremely close, each of them at some point in time lived with me. Clearly they can have no recollection of our prior meetings pre-birth….or so I thought.

That was until the day my niece who was about ten at the time during one of our little chats suddenly turned to me and asked how come she remembers talking to me in the other world, but not to her mum and dad? I was completely stunned, gob-smacked. I asked what world was that? The tiny thing responded saying, “you know…..” finally I explained to her that not everyone had the same ability to have those experiences and remember them, we then went on to have perhaps one of the most surreal conversations I have ever had with a child.

She told me that she had created her own world and that she wished me to visit and tell her if I liked it. I promised I would, and being the intrepid kind of fellow I am I wanted to experience universal creation through the eyes of a child.

A few days after this conversation I was in deep meditative trance and projected into the world my niece had created on an astral plane, I saw myself in material form and in that world everybody glided, nobody walked, I found a quiet spot and sat down and observed. The faces were familiar, it then occurred to me with a sudden clarity that everyone there had a connection to everyone else, that world was entirely populated by people who knew each other, it was a gracious, courteous, polite and helpful world, those who had perhaps offended each other on a previous plane had come here to forgive one another. Everywhere I looked the colours were inverted, the angles were obtuse, diamonds and precious stones adorned everywhere.

I had seen the world through the eyes of a child and it filled me with hope. I contemplated what I saw and my being was flooded with an intense feeling of indescribable joy and lightness. I did the only thing that I could do, which was to burst into tears.

Sarassin:
I had seen the world through the eyes of a child and it filled me with hope. I contemplated what I saw and my being was flooded with an intense feeling of indescribable joy and lightness. I did the only thing that I could do, which was to burst into tears.

Wonderful.

Sarassin is it normal to offer food to spirits? Before my granpa died he was fond of reciting some incantations then throw some of his food on the ground same with drinks...every since I deepened my meditative practise calling on my spirit guide for help. I have this great urge to offer some chunks of my food somehow even to a god I might not know but the urge is strong.What are the implications or did I stumble upon a hungry spirit or something?

AlvanT:
Sarassin is it normal to offer food to spirits? Before my granpa died he was fond of reciting some incantations then throw some of his food on the ground same with drinks...every since I deepened my meditative practise calling on my spirit guide for help. I have this great urge to offer some chunks of my food somehow even to a god I might not know but the urge is strong.What are the implications or did I stumble upon a hungry spirit or something?

AlvanT, you don't really need to offer food. Light a white candle on your bedside table on a white saucer with a glass of cold water when you go to bed. Say a short prayer of offering to your ancestral spirits and thank them.

Sarassin:


AlvanT, you don't really need to offer food. Light a white candle on your bedside table on a white saucer with a glass of cold water when you go to bed. Say a short prayer of offering to your ancestral spirits and thank them.

I really don't know any by name,our parents made sure we didn't have any knowledge of my maternal granpa's practises,they said it was fetish.I believe the mantras you recommend are affiliated with Hindu dieties.As a prodigal boy that dumped Christianity for atheism and heading back to spirituality,hope Jesus can accomodate me and know I did what I did out of mere curiosity,will Jesus be pissed off I chant Hindu mantras? If yes,then you'll have re-educate me on how to grow spiritually strong as a Christian.Any other practise apart from this religion will attract hostility from family and friends.

AlvanT:
I really don't know any by name,our parents made sure we didn't have any knowledge of my maternal granpa's practises,they said it was fetish.I believe the mantras you recommend are affiliated with Hindu dieties.As a prodigal boy that dumped Christianity for atheism and heading back to spirituality,hope Jesus can accomodate me and know I did what I did out of mere curiosity,will Jesus be pissed off I chant Hindu mantras? If yes,then you'll have re-educate me on how to grow spiritually strong as a Christian.Any other practise apart from this religion will attract hostility from family and friends.

Divine providence is universal and it is not the special preserve of any one religion. Whether we are Christian Muslim Hindu or whatever, we each have attendant spirits who care for us and seek our highest good, acknowledging them is beneficial, the names are irrelevant at this stage it is the intention that matters.

All of the mantras I give are universal and can be used by people of any faith with sincerity. The sounds are eternal and represent Divine harmonics. Where Hindu deities may be mentioned it is only as an emanation of the Divine, an embodiment of the attributes we seek. Even Jesus is an attribute of the Divine, there are mantras with the name of Jesus also, but the ancients found that Sanskrit mantras carry the sounds of the universe.

Religion is a personal matter but it differs from spirituality, one is dogma and the other is experience. Religion can get you to spirituality but you can get to spirituality without religion, in the end you have to take a path that makes the most sense to you.

Sarassin:


Divine providence is universal and it is not the special preserve of any one religion. Whether we are Christian Muslim Hindu or whatever, we each have attendant spirits who care for us and seek our highest good, acknowledging them is beneficial, the names are irrelevant at this stage it is the intention that matters.

All of the mantras I give are universal and can be used by people of any faith with sincerity. The sounds are eternal and represent Divine harmonics. Where Hindu deities may be mentioned it is only as an emanation of the Divine, an embodiment of the attributes we seek. Even Jesus is an attribute of the Divine, there are mantras with the name of Jesus also, but the ancients found that Sanskrit mantras carry the sounds of the universe.

Religion is a personal matter but it differs from spirituality, one is dogma and the other is experience. Religion can get you to spirituality but you can get to spirituality without religion, in the end you have to take a path that makes the most sense to you.

Sir if someone is cursed especially by old folks? what can be done to restore normalcy? Is there any hope at all?

AlvanT:
Sir if someone is cursed especially by old folks? what can be done to restore normalcy? Is there any hope at all?

Hello there, in answer to your question it depends mostly on the specific circumstances. As a general rule a curse made in the heat of anger is of no real consequence, the danger lies in the fact that the so-called cursed person believes that he/she is cursed and then finds him/herself creating an auto-suggestive state where such a curse becomes self-fulfilling. The remedy of course is to completely dis-regard it.

In the more insidious case of a curse pronounced by a malevolent, that can be more bothersome. The remedy is a ritual cleansing to purify the Aura and the proper invocation of the Archangel Michael.

Sarassin:


You ask a valid question. Carl Jung did state that all spiritual evocations and manifestations are a psychological exploration of the self and to a large degree he was right. But we also can define high Practice as "the Science and Art of causing Change to occur in conformity with Will". It is this Change that has concerned me.

Virtually all that I have written here can be experienced by anyone, having practised Mysticism for over 40 years I am constantly amazed at new vista's that open up to me everyday, I find that people are paralyzed by the fear of the unknown, yet the unknown simply waits to embrace us and yield us its secrets. The only delusion is in thinking that nothing else exists.

but how do you open doors for the unknown to come to you ...I am interested ...I know there is more to life than what our physical eyes can see ..I need to learn more sir.

debspauly:
but how do you open doors for the unknown to come to you ...I am interested ...I know there is more to life than what our physical eyes can see ..I need to learn more sir.

Hi there. A journey of a million miles will always begin with the first step. The first step is to "Know oneself" A willingness to deconstruct preconceived misconceptions about religion and spirituality and a willingness to embrace a greater universality. It is a journey of lifetimes that begins with you having to be true to yourself amongst other things and the ability to become dispassionate. Most of all there are no short-cuts on the path to self-realisation, the Christian saying that "many are called but few are chosen" is in this regards very true.

Sarassin:


Hi there. A journey of a million miles will always begin with the first step. The first step is to "Know oneself" A willingness to deconstruct preconceived misconceptions about religion and spirituality and a willingness to embrace a greater universality. It is a journey of lifetimes that begins with you having to be true to yourself amongst other things and the ability to become dispassionate. Most of all there are no short-cuts on the path to self-realisation, the Christian saying that "many are called but few are chosen" is in this regards very true.

how do i start

Sarassin:


Hi there. A journey of a million miles will always begin with the first step. The first step is to "Know oneself" A willingness to deconstruct preconceived misconceptions about religion and spirituality and a willingness to embrace a greater universality. It is a journey of lifetimes that begins with you having to be true to yourself amongst other things and the ability to become dispassionate. Most of all there are no short-cuts on the path to self-realisation, the Christian saying that "many are called but few are chosen" is in this regards very true.

sir I started my Christian race at the age of 7 but then even as a Christian I knew there was more to life than what they preach in the churches ...I knew that I was more powerful than what they make us believe In the churches ...I had this voice in me telling me to seek more beyond what I see ...now am 17 I have decided to go back to my root ..my African traditional root hoping that my ancestors would show me what my soul hungers for ..... am a very spiritual persons ..and all my life I always had this hunger for more light into the world of Spiritism .....then I came across your post ...and I want to know more ...I know the soul has the ability to travel even when the body isn't dead ..but I dont know how to do that .. even though I had soul traveled b4 without any chanting or seeking any spiritual help ...then I was just 13 ...sir I know I am a very old soul in a young body ...the way I reason .. think and act is totally different from my peers ....but I need guidance ...I can't get to know the truth I seek on my own ...I need help ..so I can reach my soul full potentials. please help me sir.

debspauly:
sir I started my Christian race at the age of 7 but then even as a Christian I knew there was more to life than what they preach in the churches ...I knew that I was more powerful than what they make us believe In the churches ...I had this voice in me telling me to seek more beyond what I see ...now am 17 I have decided to go back to my root ..my African traditional root hoping that my ancestors would show me what my soul hungers for ..... am a very spiritual persons ..and all my life I always had this hunger for more light into the world of Spiritism .....then I came across your post ...and I want to know more ...I know the soul has the ability to travel even when the body isn't dead ..but I dont know how to do that .. even though I had soul traveled b4 without any chanting or seeking any spiritual help ...then I was just 13 ...sir I know I am a very old soul in a young body ...the way I reason .. think and act is totally different from my peers ....but I need guidance ...I can't get to know the truth I seek on my own ...I need help ..so I can reach my soul full potentials. please help me sir.

Very interesting post. Nothing is ever lost, your Christian background will be of immense use but, I always say that we each have to find our own paths, the path being the paradigm that makes the most sense to you, and you seem to have identified that going to your roots is your chosen path and in that regard you are further along than most. There are no other spiritual helpers, guides or teachers who will be more open to assist in your quest than those of your ancestors. These are entities that you have chosen eons ago to embark with you on your journey from spirit to matter and from matter to spirit and then to Divinity.

You should learn to quieten your mind in contemplation and meditation, you should practice breathing exercises daily for at least half an hour in meditation, these will help you clear your mind and focus, and when you meditate you should visualize Divine white light coming into you and circulating to increase your energy. Once you have learned to meditate properly you will begin to receive spiritual lessons.

It seems to me that you have latent ability so you have to deepen them and make them stronger. I cannot stress it more, meditation is the gateway to all spiritual growth.

Iamsheye:
how do i start

The journey of spirituality is dependent on the seeker.

Self-introspection is important, what do you seek? is your quest of an altruistic nature? or is it that of self-aggrandisement? what are your aims in achieving spirituality? do you seek Gnosis, enlightenment the ability to influence the lives of others and yourself positively? are you seeking an understanding of Divine nature? The starting point is to be ruthless with oneself in determining one's goal and then a "One-point" mind to achieve that goal.

Sarassin:


Very interesting post. Nothing is ever lost, your Christian background will be of immense use but, I always say that we each have to find our own paths, the path being the paradigm that makes the most sense to you, and you seem to have identified that going to your roots is your chosen path and in that regard you are further along than most. There are no other spiritual helpers, guides or teachers who will be more open to assist in your quest than those of your ancestors. These are entities that you have chosen eons ago to embark with you on your journey from spirit to matter and from matter to spirit and then to Divinity.

You should learn to quieten your mind in contemplation and meditation, you should practice breathing exercises daily for at least half an hour in meditation, these will help you clear your mind and focus, and when you meditate you should visualize Divine white light coming into you and circulating to increase your energy. Once you have learned to meditate properly you will begin to receive spiritual lessons.

It seems to me that you have latent ability so you have to deepen them and make them stronger. I cannot stress it more, meditation is the gateway to all spiritual growth.

sir it is very difficult for me to live a normal teen life because I am too matured for my age .. I can't even fit in within my peers ...they can't understand me and always see me as their big adviser or mother ....even the Adults who are like 20 yrs older than me sometimes just can't understand me ..or can't believe such words are coming from a 17 yr old girl ...is really hard to live a normal life ....I know I have a pure soul and I know I have the spirit of understanding ...but my life experience has me thinking that I have past karma hunting me...... even at my young age .....I know am a very old soul in a young body ..but I want to reach my full potentials ..I want answers for my questions... sir I do I achieve an effective meditation?

Sarassin:


Very interesting post. Nothing is ever lost, your Christian background will be of immense use but, I always say that we each have to find our own paths, the path being the paradigm that makes the most sense to you, and you seem to have identified that going to your roots is your chosen path and in that regard you are further along than most. There are no other spiritual helpers, guides or teachers who will be more open to assist in your quest than those of your ancestors. These are entities that you have chosen eons ago to embark with you on your journey from spirit to matter and from matter to spirit and then to Divinity.

You should learn to quieten your mind in contemplation and meditation, you should practice breathing exercises daily for at least half an hour in meditation, these will help you clear your mind and focus, and when you meditate you should visualize Divine white light coming into you and circulating to increase your energy. Once you have learned to meditate properly you will begin to receive spiritual lessons.

It seems to me that you have latent ability so you have to deepen them and make them stronger. I cannot stress it more, meditation is the gateway to all spiritual growth.

sir it is very difficult for me to live a normal teen life because I am too matured for my age .. I can't even fit in within my peers ...they can't understand me and always see me as their big adviser or mother ....even the Adults who are like 20 yrs older than me sometimes just can't understand me ..or can't believe such words are coming from a 17 yr old girl ...is really hard to live a normal life ....I know I have a pure soul and I know I have the spirit of understanding ...but my life experience has me thinking that I have past karma hunting me...... even at my young age .....I know am a very old soul in a young body ..but I want to reach my full potentials ..I want answers for my questions... sir I do I achieve an effective meditation?

Sarassin:


Hello there, in answer to your question it depends mostly on the specific circumstances. As a general rule a curse made in the heat of anger is of no real consequence, the danger lies in the fact that the so-called cursed person believes that he/she is cursed and then finds him/herself creating an auto-suggestive state where such a curse becomes self-fulfilling. The remedy of course is to completely dis-regard it.

In the more insidious case of a curse pronounced by a malevolent, that can be more bothersome. The remedy is a ritual cleansing to purify the Aura and the proper invocation of the Archangel Michael.

Sir do you think that an evil spiritualist can take someone else's destiny,star,etc.Maybe by using an item or belonging of the victim for some dark rituals?.