Alariwo2:


No dear.. it won't work that way.
If atal Nigeria will split, everyone will go their separate ways and we'll have nothing less than 6 small countries out of the "big" Nigeria.

Yorubas have a clearly defined boundary, we don't need to do attache with any region or force any oil producing community with us. Oduduwa republic will stand.

Igbos in the SS are tenants.. The real owners are the Ikweres, Ijaws etc. They can evict you guys whenever they like.

Highest form of delusion.

Maybe the Yorubas in NC are tenants too and will be thrown out when the minorities in the North want their own country.

Yorubas in places like Offa, Oyun etc of Kwara and the Okuns of Kogi will all be asked to go back to Ibadan where they came from.

Amarabae:
Good Day All!
Happy Sallah To My Muslim Friends!
-
If you go into the street of Nigeria and ask, who is a Niger Deltan?
95% of respondents will likely fail the question.
The Reason for this write up is that some Peoples ignorantly love to use the phrase "IGBOS and NIGER DELTANS".
Its wrong and an embarrasement to the intellectual mindset.
-
First, What is a Delta?
A Delta is a Land area where a River spread into diverse tributuaries before emptying into an Ocean or Sea.
-
Niger Delta is the delta of River Nigeria.
The USA has Mississippi Delta.
The China has Yangtze Delta.
The Egypt has Nile delta.
And so on.
-
In Nigeria, How Is A Niger Deltan identified, lets examine it in three ways and then solve the Igbos and Niger Delta Question.
-
1) Niger Delta as Oil Producing Areas?- If Niger Delta is classified by Oil Producing Areas, that mean Igbos, Yorubas, Ijaws, Urhobos etc are part of it.
- Yorubas produce Oil in Ondo state.
- Igbos have Oil producing areas in Ukwa areas of Abia, Egbema, Asa/Ndoki, Oguta, Ogbaru, Ndoni, Omuma, Etche etc.
-
So if it is classified by Oil producing areas, that means all ethnic groups in southern Nigeria are Niger Deltans.
-
2) Niger Deltans As South South States?- This is the classification many use to define Niger Deltan.
And they even Ignorantly think Igbos are not part of it.
I am an Asa lady from Oyigbo LGA In Rivers state.
I am proudly Igbo and Niger Deltan.
Also the Ndokis, Ndoni, Etches, Egbemas etc are also Oil producing areas in South South and they are part of the Igbo Nation.
Ikwerre, Ogba and Ekpeye may be a battleground of identity issue but they are of Igboid stock.
So you see if we use South South as classification of Niger deltan, IGBOS are part and parcel of it.
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3) Niger Deltan By Virtue Of Geographical Location?
If we go by this classification, that means Edo and Cross River people are not Niger deltans, because there is no delta of the River Niger in their location.
If we go by this classification, that means IGBOS are fully part of the Niger Delta.
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My Final submission is that trying to create Niger Delta without mentioning IGBOS is a big FRAUD.
There are Igbos in the term "NIGER DELTA".
Even the River Niger is a dermacation between two Igbo Cities Onitsha and Asaba.
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The days of divide and conquer are fading away.
I am an Asa/Ndoki person.
Oyigbo is my LGA!
Rivers is my state.
IGBO is my ethnic nation.
And Yes I am a Niger Deltan just like my fellow Igbos like Etches, Ndonis, Egbemas, Ogbarus, Ogutas, etc.
Thank you all.

I agree with you.

Many years back when we I was more frequent in my home state, I used to hear our people use words like "we the real Niger delta." I just laugh at the foolishness. Their mindset is that the man from Enekorogha is more Niger deltan than a man from Oleh, kwale, and Asaba. These things were rife when ibori was governor and diluted when oduaghan became governor. Indeed it's foolish.

Amarabae:
south south? When I am from the same geo political zone.
Hahahaha, try another trick.
Btw, the 1966 coup by Nzeogwu from Delta state, what should we call the coup?

There are Igboid groups in Delta state, but are they the majority group in the state? That is what l'm talking about.

ndcide:


I agree with you.

Many years back when we I was more frequent in my home state, I used to hear our people use words like "we the real Niger delta." I just laugh at the foolishness. Their mindset is that the man from Enekorogha is more Niger deltan than a man from Oleh, kwale, and Asaba. These things were rife when ibori was governor and diluted when oduaghan became governor. Indeed it's foolish.

Oleh is an Isoko town mister. What direction are you pointing at with its inclusion?

Oleh is a core part of the Niger Delta!

AnonyNymous:

Lol.
I think you mean 'contraption'. Contraception refers to methods/items used to prevent conception during sex.

Yeah
Was trying to write it when my phone completed it, didn't even check again.
Thanks though

Amarabae:
oh you are falling for their tactics. Yes Odili made a mistake but he regretted it..
But the cloak of identity crisis is falling down fast, believe me!
Many were deceived in the past but not any more.
I don't have any problem that Edwin clarke and ijaws stopped Odili in 2007, Odili cause it himself.
Lets not throw the whole blame at the feet of ijaws.

How exactly was it Odili fault, how did he cause anything himself.
You mean that Edwin Clark insisting That both Odili and his home town Ndoni are too Igbotic to represent Niger delta was Odili's fault?
The only mistake Odili made that made Edwin Clark campaign against his candidacy was being from an Igbo speaking town called Ndoni, in Rivers state.

What tactics am I falling for?

victorvezx:

My ethnic group is Oron, the third largest ethnic group in Akwa ibom state

oron is not an ethnic group, get off plz

victorvezx:

95% of Nigerians have heard and know where Niger delta is. Whether igbos are there changes nothing. There are many tribes there too. It is very distinct from the south east. South south is Edo, Rivers state, Delta state, Akwa ibom state, Bayelsa state, and cross river state. The real Niger Delta is Delta state, Akwa ibom state, Rivers state and Bayelsa. Imo state, Ondo state and Abia state where only included in Niger delta by Obasanjo as oil producing states, they are not real Niger delta in the sense of it

There is different btw niger delta and niger delta development commission
The real niger delta are delta, bayelsa, rivers,akwaibom, edo ,calabar.
The later are only parts of the niger delta development commission.

Amarabae:
Good Day All!
Happy Sallah To My Muslim Friends!
-
If you go into the street of Nigeria and ask, who is a Niger Deltan?
95% of respondents will likely fail the question.
The Reason for this write up is that some Peoples ignorantly love to use the phrase "IGBOS and NIGER DELTANS".
Its wrong and an embarrasement to the intellectual mindset.
-
First, What is a Delta?
A Delta is a Land area where a River spread into diverse tributuaries before emptying into an Ocean or Sea.
-
Niger Delta is the delta of River Nigeria.
The USA has Mississippi Delta.
The China has Yangtze Delta.
The Egypt has Nile delta.
And so on.
-
In Nigeria, How Is A Niger Deltan identified, lets examine it in three ways and then solve the Igbos and Niger Delta Question.
-
1) Niger Delta as Oil Producing Areas?- If Niger Delta is classified by Oil Producing Areas, that mean Igbos, Yorubas, Ijaws, Urhobos etc are part of it.
- Yorubas produce Oil in Ondo state.
- Igbos have Oil producing areas in Ukwa areas of Abia, Egbema, Asa/Ndoki, Oguta, Ogbaru, Ndoni, Omuma, Etche etc.
-
So if it is classified by Oil producing areas, that means all ethnic groups in southern Nigeria are Niger Deltans.
-
2) Niger Deltans As South South States?- This is the classification many use to define Niger Deltan.
And they even Ignorantly think Igbos are not part of it.
I am an Asa lady from Oyigbo LGA In Rivers state.
I am proudly Igbo and Niger Deltan.
Also the Ndokis, Ndoni, Etches, Egbemas etc are also Oil producing areas in South South and they are part of the Igbo Nation.
Ikwerre, Ogba and Ekpeye may be a battleground of identity issue but they are of Igboid stock.
So you see if we use South South as classification of Niger deltan, IGBOS are part and parcel of it.
-
3) Niger Deltan By Virtue Of Geographical Location?
If we go by this classification, that means Edo and Cross River people are not Niger deltans, because there is no delta of the River Niger in their location.
If we go by this classification, that means IGBOS are fully part of the Niger Delta.
-
My Final submission is that trying to create Niger Delta without mentioning IGBOS is a big FRAUD.
There are Igbos in the term "NIGER DELTA".
Even the River Niger is a dermacation between two Igbo Cities Onitsha and Asaba.
-
The days of divide and conquer are fading away.
I am an Asa/Ndoki person.
Oyigbo is my LGA!
Rivers is my state.
IGBO is my ethnic nation.
And Yes I am a Niger Deltan just like my fellow Igbos like Etches, Ndonis, Egbemas, Ogbarus, Ogutas, etc.
Thank you all.

...A wonderful intellectual thread I must confess and the best insightful one I have seen in a decade. I love all your matured responses on this thread so far including that of our own people. But please go through these advices :
1.Never fall in the temptation to follow our brothers wash our dirty linens in the public even when we all don't agree on a particular thing.
2.Kindly note that an attack on IPOB is a direct attack on igbos. Even when you have a divergent views please don't lash it on using the social media. Igbo bu ofu wherever we find ourselves.
3.There are some mentions you don't have to necessarily reply.
4.Finally, forget about the antics of the 'divide and rule', Igboland knows her territory and boundary and will never surrender an INCH OF HER LAND to any SCAVENGERS.

Finally, continue to keep on defending the interest of our people. We are very proud of you. Our position in Nigeria is like that of the state of Israel. We are surrounded by a vociferous, wicked,igbophobic-DNA-induced and blood-thirsty neighbours .We are all duty-bound to equipped ourselves with the relevant information as yours sincerely has done on this thread,unmask the lies of the past,re-evaluate our future and tap in the great potential that our God has given to us. Thank you.

victorvezx:

Nothing like "May", igbos in the south south are a minority, it's a confirmed fact. And why did u say igbos are a majority in the Niger delta? Historically Niger delta is only delta, rivers and Bayelsa, so how come igbos are majority? Are u adding the south east?

You forget to understand that Delta is not an Ethnic group, Igbos make up the Northern part of Delta and Rivers State.

This piece is distinctive enough unless some peeps choose to argue vaguely due to lack of objectivity.

For those who still don't understand, you can make google your friend or library on the words you don't understand and thank the OP and me later.

Amarabae:
I don't want nuisance in my thread, thats why IPOB are not found in it.
IPOB Emotionial crybabies can look for another thread to masturbate in.
Not here.

Scotsreferendum is one of those ipob niwits that disgrace people online. Soldier on.

It has always been about Crude oil, and not brotherly love.

victorvezx:

Ur forgetting one thing, igbos are minorities in the Niger delta like the rest of the tribes there, so they don't own Niger delta. and all this tribes don't share the same ideology with the igbos, when they really gather together and become united in the in a course, the little Igbo sub groups there will do nothing. They will have no ally in the Niger delta, they will have to join the other tribes and fight for the same course, or move back to the south east and be with their brothers.

The Governor of delta and rivers state are minoritiy Igbo's now

TheKingIsHere:


Shut up. You are not nigerdeltan. ..You are from osogbo. Don't deny your people.

young man hope u have taken your medication.This young lady just made an analysis and u respond like an intellectually deficient animal .once more try to strengthen your brain cells by reading and studying so u can contribute and think like an homosapien if really you are .

Amarabae:
Good Day All!
Happy Sallah To My Muslim Friends!
-
If you go into the street of Nigeria and ask, who is a Niger Deltan?
95% of respondents will likely fail the question.
The Reason for this write up is that some Peoples ignorantly love to use the phrase "IGBOS and NIGER DELTANS".
Its wrong and an embarrasement to the intellectual mindset.
-
First, What is a Delta?
A Delta is a Land area where a River spread into diverse tributuaries before emptying into an Ocean or Sea.
-
Niger Delta is the delta of River Nigeria.
The USA has Mississippi Delta.
The China has Yangtze Delta.
The Egypt has Nile delta.
And so on.
-
In Nigeria, How Is A Niger Deltan identified, lets examine it in three ways and then solve the Igbos and Niger Delta Question.
-
1) Niger Delta as Oil Producing Areas?- If Niger Delta is classified by Oil Producing Areas, that mean Igbos, Yorubas, Ijaws, Urhobos etc are part of it.
- Yorubas produce Oil in Ondo state.
- Igbos have Oil producing areas in Ukwa areas of Abia, Egbema, Asa/Ndoki, Oguta, Ogbaru, Ndoni, Omuma, Etche etc.
-
So if it is classified by Oil producing areas, that means all ethnic groups in southern Nigeria are Niger Deltans.
-
2) Niger Deltans As South South States?- This is the classification many use to define Niger Deltan.
And they even Ignorantly think Igbos are not part of it.
I am an Asa lady from Oyigbo LGA In Rivers state.
I am proudly Igbo and Niger Deltan.
Also the Ndokis, Ndoni, Etches, Egbemas etc are also Oil producing areas in South South and they are part of the Igbo Nation.
Ikwerre, Ogba and Ekpeye may be a battleground of identity issue but they are of Igboid stock.
So you see if we use South South as classification of Niger deltan, IGBOS are part and parcel of it.
-
3) Niger Deltan By Virtue Of Geographical Location?
If we go by this classification, that means Edo and Cross River people are not Niger deltans, because there is no delta of the River Niger in their location.
If we go by this classification, that means IGBOS are fully part of the Niger Delta.
-
My Final submission is that trying to create Niger Delta without mentioning IGBOS is a big FRAUD.
There are Igbos in the term "NIGER DELTA".
Even the River Niger is a dermacation between two Igbo Cities Onitsha and Asaba.
-
The days of divide and conquer are fading away.
I am an Asa/Ndoki person.
Oyigbo is my LGA!
Rivers is my state.
IGBO is my ethnic nation.
And Yes I am a Niger Deltan just like my fellow Igbos like Etches, Ndonis, Egbemas, Ogbarus, Ogutas, etc.
Thank you all.

your write up is very educative .i for marry u but ..........

victorvezx:

95% of Nigerians have heard and know where Niger delta is. Whether igbos are there changes nothing. There are many tribes there too. It is very distinct from the south east.

South south is Edo, Rivers state, Delta state, Akwa ibom state, Bayelsa state, and cross river state. The real Niger Delta is Delta state, Akwa ibom state, Rivers state and Bayelsa.

Imo state, Ondo state and Abia state where only included in Niger delta by Obasanjo as oil producing states, they are not real Niger delta in the sense of it

^^^^^^^^
Well said...

Amarabae:
yesterday IPOB called me yoruba, today they are calling me hausa/fulani. Tomorrow they will call me a Bini.
Lolz

Amara dont be so harsh on biafra(ipob) advocate or supporters ,since they only protest without killing and maiming ,they have the legal right to protest peacefully.these group arose as a result of bad and greedy leader. i represent one nigeria.

Who is that guy that said Oron is an ethnic group are sure you're from Akwa ibom talk more of SS

fratermathy:
^^^

Illustrative map

Amarabae :

Look at those snaky lines in the picture and point how many are Igboland. That's the real Niger Delta!

U THIS BOY, TRY TO REASON PROPERLY ABEG.

UBANI(BONNY) AND OPUBO(OPOBO) TO THE SOUTH EAST IS IGBO.

NOW SHOW US URHOBO IN THE MAP U POSTED.

OLODO!

fratermathy:


Oleh is an Isoko town mister. What direction are you pointing at with its inclusion?

Oleh is a core part of the Niger Delta!

I don't expect you to understand. I know you so well. Is there any place I mentioned that's not Niger delta in the true sense of it ?

I think this our Niger delta thing needs to be redefined. Besides I still ask what is south south. It's quite interesting that me an insider is asking these questions.

The thread drives home the point anyway.

Note that I've never rejected being called a Niger deltan. I just think we are narrow minded with these things.

Kathmandu:
Scotsreferendum is one of those ipob niwits that disgrace people online. Soldier on.

You and Amarabae can not stop the unity of the Igbos and their minority neighbors


You all shall fail

ScotsReferendum:


You and Amarabae can not stop the unity of the Igbos and their minority neighbors


You all shall fail

Taa gbafuo. Onye nzuzu. Go and make yourself useful.


I don't suffer fools kindly so run long ezi bida

This amarabae, you remind me of someone I used to know here 'adaure4ever', a hardcore igbotic girl. Purely pro-igbo but anti-ipob methodology. She was hounded and hounded and hounded. Till she deactivated. Are you ada??

victorvezx:

My ethnic group is Oron, the third largest ethnic group in Akwa ibom state

Since when did this well known Afonja become Oron.

My God you Yoruba makes me sick as f2k.

Never seen a group so disgustingly hatefilled, they always try to destroy others images.

You lots are truly the most pitiful demons on the planet.

Y'all the words of the so called "Oron in Akwa Ibom"

TheKingIsHere:
Lol, she continues her obsession with nigerdeltans.

Tomorrow queenofnepal, ngozi123 and nonaira1 will say she is igbo.

Why can't she leave nigerdelta alone.

She says she doesn't want SS in biafra which I agree yet she dreams about us every day.

Amarabae the Afonja from osogbo, leave US alone and eat your hydraulic soup

I'm curious as to why you cc me here. There's nothing wrong with her post. She's very much right on this.


I'm igbo and also ND and I'm damn proud of it. Similar to what's she's saying.
Do you have a problem with SS igbos saying we are igbo?

Amarabae:
oh you are falling for their tactics. Yes Odili made a mistake but he regretted it..
But the cloak of identity crisis is falling down fast, believe me!
Many were deceived in the past but not any more.
I don't have any problem that Edwin clarke and ijaws stopped Odili in 2007, Odili cause it himself.
Lets not throw the whole blame at the feet of ijaws.

He's long been falling for their tactics and I seriously feel sorry for pazienza

StOla:


It's really pathetic that even you that your own people are instructing to drink green hydraulic soup and stop claiming Igbo, Asa or DBanj, because they doubt your claims to their ethnicity, is also the same victim deciding who is NigerDelta or not based on their opinion that does not suit your argument.

Rather pathetic. A victim also victimizing.

I will continue to ask, why does the Igbo believe they are in a position to decide who is truly SS/NigerDelta or not?

Nigeria has long liberated those minorities from the Igbo grip. If a man says he is Oron tribe, who is the Igbo to decide if he is or not?
As it stands now, the minority Igbo in Delta or Rivers are the ones in the grip of the SS/NigerDelta.

He's not an Oron but well known Afonja.

You yorubas are known to ALWAYS pretend to be WTF you aren't and it's ridiculously pitiful to the core. I've never seen a more snake like behavior in my life yet you lots wonder why the rest of nation views una as demonic snakes.

freshest4live:

There are Igboid groups in Delta state, but are they the majority group in the state? That is what l'm talking about.

See kwesrion from a 21st century man with Google.

You people stay proving to me that Nigeria is a cessential pit with pitiful educational system.

No we are minority in the state in that your delusional dream.

Amarabae:
hahaha. We are not talking about ikwerres here.
I am an Asa/Ndoki lady from Oyigbo Rivers state and yes I am IGBO and PROUD and also a NIGER DELTAN!
Just like the Etches, Ndonis, Egbemas etc.
Your divide and conquer game is Up.

Only interested in your identity. Never expected someone from anywhere in Oyigbo LGA to this bold about his/her identity. I have an in-law from umuagbai who will always tell you he's from portharcourt.

Igbo denial was a post civil war political calculation that Igbo groups in the niger delta had to use in order not to be dispossessed of their ancestral land and belongings from the IJaws that were looking to use igbophobia to suppress their political power.


By denying their Igbo brothers in the geopolitical south east, it made them a separate tribe and enabling them to retain political power in rivers state.

After the creation of bayelsa state, that strategy of Igbo denial has backfired on the ijaws in rivers state and now all igbo sub groups are pretending to be different tribes and sharing power among themselves.

Nice post

But we should bear in mind that be it in English or geography

There is no term like south south....It's not in the cardinal points


There is nothing like south south
North North
West west
East east



But we have south East
North West
Etc



Nigeria and fun y terms are same