mtis:

Huh very funny .. btn I gave a good advice

yeah, good advice.

mtis:

Its not about your post..am following a semi cold war here btn north an south..what am saying both groups at one time were very advanced compared to many parts of Africa..but you guys like blah blah blah ..ya attitude betrays you guys..

Kenya and Nigeria are both great countries in their rights but see the blah blah blah between us since.Does that not betray your attitude and our attitude?We are all Africans and If I meet you outside Africa,under normal circumstances,I will naturally jell with you more than I will with someone from another race.We are all Africans,so why have we been attacking one another?Answer and let me see if it's not going to justify the stup!d cold war by any means.

mtis:
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"Additionally, there is some evidence of deep time connections between the groups ancestral to Ethiopians and the Khoisan of southern Africa. It may be that Ethiopians and Khoisan are reservoirs of ancient genetic variation in Sub-Saharan Africa which as been overlain by Bantu in most other regions outside of West Africa "

What the butt..Bantus had to spoil everything heh.
No wonder naijas don't like them

Nigerians are predominantly Bantus, so why do they hate them?

Hati13:

Nigerians are predominantly Bantus, so why do they hate them?

Am not sure they are Bantus

obaaderemi:
Kenya and Nigeria are both great countries in their rights but see the blah blah blah between us since.Does that not betray your attitude and our attitude?We are all Africans and If I meet you outside Africa,under normal circumstances,I will naturally jell with you more than I will with someone from another race.We are all Africans,so why have we been attacking one another?Answer and let me see if it's not going to justify the stup!d cold war by any means.

Agreed ..but you guys like to stretch it a little bit more if I may say

shervydman:

man, they used them to the fullest....... far beyond how david used a sling to kill goliath.

They used them and left them 'high and dry' till kingdom come.

obaaderemi:
They used them and left them 'high and dry' till kingdom come.

that power given to them Is even one of our major problem......they're so power-hungry.
but, its gonna be fine after restructuring or what do u think?

mtis:
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"This just means that when you take worldwide genetic variation, and pull out the biggest independent dimensions, and then visualize individuals on the two largest dimensions in terms of how they explain variance, the Oromo and other Ethiopians don’t really intersect. Interestingly the Amhara and Tigray are almost indistinguishable, but the Ethiopian Jews are in their own cluster "

Hati13 an ednite care to comment on the above coz scientifically the Ethi Jews are a little different from other Ethiopians

• Bete Israeli(Ethiopian Jews): are predominantly Hebrew/Agew mixs and Judaism converted Agew.

• Amharas and Tigrays are predominantly Cushite/Semite/Omotic mixs

• Oromos are predominantly Cushite/Omotic mixs.

- The original inhabitants of much of Eritrea and northern and central Ethiopia were Agew people.
- the proper/typical Cushite peoples are Agews, Bejas, Oromos, Afars, Somalians, Sidamas and few other.......
- Horn of Africa is where Afro-Asiatic originated and all ancient Israeli, Arabs, Berbers, Ancient Egyptians, Cushites and few others were one people who spoke one language in western Ethiopia back 8,000 BC.
- Horn of Africa is also called land of Cushites.

mtis:

Am not sure they are Bantus

So, what do you think they are?

Hati13:

• Bete Israeli(Ethiopian Jews): are predominantly Hebrew/Agew mixs and Judaism converted Agew.

• Amharas and Tigrays are predominantly Cushite/Semite/Omotic mixs

• Oromos are predominantly Cushite/Omotic mixs.

- The original inhabitants of much of Eritrea and northern and central Ethiopia were Agew people.
- the proper/typical Cushite peoples are Agews, Bejas, Oromos, Afars, Somalians, Sidamas and few other.......
- Horn of Africa is where Afro-Asiatic originated and all ancient Israeli, Arabs, Berbers, Ancient Egyptians, Cushites and few others were one people who spoke one language in western Ethiopia back 8,000 BC.
- Horn of Africa is also called land of Cushites.

Thanks a lot..am not good in history but am loving it here..

Hati13:

So, what do you think they are?

shervydman what the butt are you people..

genieluv:


When i saw your first reply 2me n continued seeing your presence here without a comment, i knew a long post bombardments was coming @me very soon. Lol.

**** I am not absolving the fulanis as the major conquerors, all i am saying is that the fulanis after conquering hausas made use of Hausa soldiers to conquer other areas n these numerous hausa soldiers also settled the newly formed emirates together with the fulani conquerors. This was the similar case that played out with the Nupes. Till date, it is regarded that Nupe jihadists were the ones who raided n conquered Auchi, buh the Nupes only formed the foot soldiers while the leaders were still fulanis (who were already becoming Nupenized).

Yaaah, buh i agree with you, in the case of Adamawa emirate (which includes Cameroon) n to an extent Gombe, most of the foot soldiers were not hausa n this lead to stronger n more homogenous fulani settlements buh in other conquered parts of Nigeria (emirates), the fulani settlements were heavily diluted by hausa culture n language.

¤¤¤¤ Talking about hausa kingdoms being easily conquered, it wasn't as if Danfodio n his men engaged all the hausas in a full scale war. It was more of an internal usurpation of power by deposition of the apparent corrupted hausa royalties. A situation which many hausas themselves also supported (Danfodio). It wasn't a full scale war.

Yaah, Sokoto caliphate expansion was repelled by some Nigerian groups buh that didn't stop their forceful desire to sink the Koran in the atlantic ocean, did it? They re-inforced n took other routes usually. Most Plateau n Southern Kaduna tribes, Jukuns, Tivs n Mumuyes repelled them buh that didn't stop them from diverting to Nasarawa area n they did much havoc n islamization in Nasarawa area (lower Plateau). They also managed to later penetrate the Plateau through Wase/Kanam axis through eastern bauchi n Taraba north.
So, believe me, one way or the other they might have re-attacked yoruba land (perhaps through the Nupe jihadists who had taken over Auchi). I have also read about how Nupe-fulani jihadists raided Okun yorubas/Ebiras n almost conquered them. Lemme look for those documents. I need to re-read them again.

What concern the Nupes, Okuns, and Auchi or extent of the Sokoto caliphate over the generalization you initially made with "Hausa-Fulani" tag as well as your unsound superiority claims.

My claim from the beginning was that the Sokoto caliphate was created and led by Fulani. The Hausa Sarkins were disposed and replaced by Fulani leadership, hence a Fulani insurgency of course with some Hausa backings. Hausas and Fulanis fought a 4 year war known as the Fulani war. During the caliphate, the Fulani upper class were pretty much in charge. Also, I'm not really talking about foot soldiers because other ethnic groups not just Hausas were used by the Fulanis. Great Britain's army consisted of mostly non-British, but the conquests they made was still a British conquest.

The Fulani became weaker beyond the Niger. The further South you go, the more treacherous the terrain gets. You have the thickets of the Nigerian rain forests(at the time) topped with the mangrove swamp and not to mention the tsetse fly which would have eliminated any approaching Fulani calvary in a swoop.

See, this is why the Benins you regarded as not civilized enough for mostly traveling on foot did so. They knew of horses, they even depict horses in their plaques, but the horses were simply impractical. Horses were not ideal for the type of vegetation in the area and were only reserved for someone like the king. The capture of Ilorin specifically can't be attributed as a direct war between Oyo and Fulanis, but an internal rebellion of Afonja with the help of Northern slaves and the Fulanis who would later betrayed him. The Ilorin battle was an isolated case, this is why all the Yoruba towns North of Ilorin still have obas and not emirs till date. The Nupes and the Okun fought but that fight was always historic and predates the Fulani's Sokoto Caliphate, so the association you are trying to make is very weak.

Also, what do you mean the Nupe almost conquered them, the Okuns are not a single entity you know, they are five major entities, be more specific. Some Okun groups were in the direct expansionist view of the Nupes. Others The Sokoto caliphate only made significant gains (in Northern Nigeria + Northern Cameroon) for only the initial 2-3 decades of its 100 year existence and for 7 decades, it stagnated. Those decades, it couldn't conquer much of Southern Nigeria. Why couldn't they make significant gains especially in the South in those decades?

genieluv:


Nothing beats literacy my dear. Lol

Also, Ajami and Arabic were attributed to the Arabs and Islam. What's the indigenous writing system of Hausas?

Hati13:



You have also some relation with Oromos(Cushite). This also means you have relation with other Cushite peoples like Agews, Bejas, Afars, Habeshas and many......

Around 8,000 BC, all people who now speak Afro-Asiatic super family language branches were one people who spoke one language. Those people lived in western Ethiopia, northern Kenya and eastern Sudan. The origin of Afro-Asiatic was in Horn of Africa.

Later, those people started to migrate to different directions and through times there language and appearance started to differ. Now, those people speak:-
- Cushitic languages
- Semitic languages(example: Arabic, Hebrew, Amharic and many.....)
- Omotic languages
- Berber languages
- Chadic languages
- Ancient Egyptians language(extinct)

wenedem Kikuyu1, you guys speak Bantu languages, but in reality, we East Africans are the products of many centuries old extensive mixing and in DNA we are very similar. No ethnicity is pure, so you, me and other East Africans are a mix of Cushite/Semite/Omote/Nilote

The human species emerged somewhere in East Africa so its fair to say all humans are East Africans. Any other classification is for convenience.

shervydman:

ohhh.....

you guys need to stop fvcking

upperhill

robosky02:


very well
more rice

wow nice food. Thats Jolof?

Nowenuse:



genie i disagree with what you said about fulanis conquering Kanam in Plateau state. They conquered Wase town (i can accept). This is my state. Kanam people more or less accepted Islam through Bauchi emirate, i think the founder of their emirate was a Boghom traditional ruler himself who accepted islam n went and came back with many islamic scholars from Bauchi to Kanam.

Kanam emirate is not controlled by the fulani tribe but by Boghom people and the Emir is also adressed as the PANKWAL BOGHOM mostly.

@9jakool. I think i agree with what genieluv is saying here about the hausa foot soldiers cos fulani culture and population did not really spread to some non-hausa northern emirates. The emirates appear heavily hausa by composition, culture, language, ancestry and what have you.

And did I ever argue about Hausa foot soldiers?

Nai Park

Hati13:

Nigerians are predominantly Bantus, so why do they hate them?

I never knew that wenedem? I dont think they are predominantly Bantu I think they are just there as members of this species But there are a few Bantoid groups like Tiv people.

Hati13:

• Bete Israeli(Ethiopian Jews): are predominantly Hebrew/Agew mixs and Judaism converted Agew.

• Amharas and Tigrays are predominantly Cushite/Semite/Omotic mixs

• Oromos are predominantly Cushite/Omotic mixs.

- The original inhabitants of much of Eritrea and northern and central Ethiopia were Agew people.
- the proper/typical Cushite peoples are Agews, Bejas, Oromos, Afars, Somalians, Sidamas and few other.......
- Horn of Africa is where Afro-Asiatic originated and all ancient Israeli, Arabs, Berbers, Ancient Egyptians, Cushites and few others were one people who spoke one language in western Ethiopia back 8,000 BC.
- Horn of Africa is also called land of Cushites.

Did Ethiopian Jews come from Israel?

mtis:

Thanks a lot..am not good in history but am loving it here..

Do you remember that you told me you hate history in my early days here?

mtis:


shervydman what the butt are you people..

TayserMahiri:


The human species emerged somewhere in East Africa so its fair to say all humans are East Africans. Any other classification is for convenience.

wenedem, you, me and other East Africans needs to be named original humans Africans.

crazyiguana:
Nai Park

Let me guess, I'm confident it's Kenya.

Genieluv, I knew you didn't have a comeback from the video advert I shared we are very cultural people, probably more than you guys.

TayserMahiri:


I never knew that wenedem? I dont think they are predominantly Bantu I think they are just there as members of this species But there are a few Bantoid groups like Tiv people.

But most of them speak Bantu family languages.

Hati13:

wenedem, you, me and other East Africans needs to be named original humans Africans.

The original men Hati if I may ask, which country is considered the 'true' human origin between Kenya, Ethiopia and Tanzania? I know there is a lot of archaeological evidence from those three. Dont be biased cos I know its Kenya

Hati13:



But most of them speak Bantu family languages.

Really? The kind of languages I see them writing here dont even remotely resemble Bantu. I see Genie, Nowenuse and Isalhabash write very strange words.

nemesis2u:


lol
kenyan guys here dont play smart with google

just google this
"second largest employer in Nigeria after Nigerian government"

if u have difficulty add i**** at the very beginning

dont blame me, i want the interesting and entertaining fight to reach new heights

it is turning into a good info thread

anyways i am outta here pronto

leaving nairaland....

Actually Nollywood is the second largest employer of labour in Nigeria.
Your only evidence that it's India is from the mouth of obasanjo of all people, speaking to Indians to motivate them, but it's completely false and has no corroborative evidence elsewhere.
Obasanjo in his customary trademark was teasing Indians in that forum so as to motivate them to do better.
You can also come to Naija, travel around the cities and check things out for yourself.
https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.thecable.ng/imf-nollywood-nigerias-second-biggest-employer&ved=0ahUKEwihqOWOueHUAhUSLlAKHSjLCz0QFggcMAA&usg=AFQjCNFT5ps0lJZhiZ4JsKfb7AHHoBQ2wg

Muafrika2:

Not to forget the Two Rivers mall,

And what hasnt he tried, these fella?

https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.un.org/africarenewal/magazine/may-2013/nigeria%25E2%2580%2599s-film-industry-potential-gold-mine&ved=0ahUKEwiSgJaOuuHUAhUIbVAKHfDMCR4QFgg2MAg&usg=AFQjCNFKSXo1qRg7Xq5XAD0k9dYsC4JeFA