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humblemikel:
"CHRIS EMBASSY"
I REMEMBER ONCE I WENT OUT WITH MY MAN TO BUY SOMETHING AND THE SO CALLED GIRLS (HOOKERS) FROM THAT EMBASSY STOP MY MAN AND INVITED HIM FOR A CHURCH PROGRAM SIDELINING ME, I JUST DEY LOOK WITH SURPRISE.... SHE EVEN DEMANDED FOR HIS PHONE NUMBER RIGHT BEFORE MY PRESENT. ALL I COULD ASK HER WAS, IN U EMBASSY, DON'T THEY NEED GIRLS SINCE SHE DIDN'T NOTICE ME. SHE JUST SMILE FOOLISHLY. RIGHT THERE, I GOT THE FLYER FROM MY MAN, TORE IT AND TROW IT ON HER FACE AND WE MOVE. MY MAN WAS LAUGHING THROUGHOUT THE DAY.

Lol....bad girl

Afam4eva:
I'm a very open minded person because i can attend just about any church in a bid to broaden my horizon and learn new things. I have been to a lot of churches. From Deeper Life (where i was brought up) to CPM, MFM, RCCG, Catholic, Seventh day adventist and Christ Embassy. For Christ Embassy, due to the fact that most of my immediate family attend the church, i attended it quasi-often for a while. So, i know a lot about the workings in the church.

The thing about Christ Embassy is that if you come from a conservative church background, you will find the church very very weird. It's not like RCCG or any of those typical pentecostal churches. The first thing that my knock you off when you first attend is their mode of dressing. A lot of the girls wear what could be said to be revealing or club-ish while a lot of the guys jerry curl their hair looking splufic and some of them even adorn themselves with ear rings. I mean, it's not like the church tells guys to wear ear rings. They'r not just really concerned about how people choose to dress or look to church. They're very liberal like that and that is why the church has the highest percentage of youth population of any church in Nigeria. Youths like where they will be allowed to express themselves freely.

I also do not find anything wrong in the practices that i have stated because i see myself liberal and hate churches that force doctrines down people's throat. I attended Deeper life, so i know what i;m saying.

What i find disturbing however, is the monetary aspect. I was in a Christ Embassy service one day and Pastor Chris's preaching that day was solely on tithing and it was a very angry preaching. You could feel the emphasis on tithing, offering and sowing seeds. it's like that almost every order day. They ring it into your ears that you can move forward in life until you give offerings, pay tithes, sow seeds and give your first fruits. They even took it a step further by collecting gate fees for cross-over services with the excuse that they're doing it in order to limit the number of people coming based on the space available. How on earth can one rationalize the collecting of gate fees to attend a church. Is it a concert biko nu?

Having said all these things, i really don't see how they are different from other churches. The problem i have with Nigerian Christians is that they always see faults in other churches except theirs. if you see them analyzing the faults in other churches, you would take them for objective and intelligent peeps until you bring up the topic about their pastor buying a private jet or slapping a child because she's a with and see them go up in arms. You would see pentecostal churches calling Catholics idol worshipers who are worshiping mary, the motehr of Jesus but would be the ones calling the pastor's wife mummy.

Can we please stop deceiving ourselves and allow people to contiue to live in their delusions of grandeur because we are all guilty of the same thing we accuse other of. Whether Christ Embassy, redeem, Catholic, Cele, C & S, MFM etc. We are all hypocritical.

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akagaba:
Op, wake up... as soon as u left, 500 more people walked in so dont come here and disgrace urself. If u have allowed d devil to take a hold of u, then seek deliverance somehwere becus so many lives are being changed and transformed in Christ Embassy. We dont preach sin in CE cuz thats not what God asked us to preach. We rather preach the goodnews of the gospel of our Lord Jesus and thats the gudnews that brings sinners to God.

For money matter, its only a poor man that speaks d way u do. We give big, very very big in CE and thats becuz we serve a big God so deal with ur poverty.

I feel like crying after reading this your naïve and silly comment..
Your church don't preach sin? Why then did jesus came to die for us if not because of human sinful nature? Shall we abide in sin and expect grace to abound?. And You give very big? what a pity.
You may give big truly,but that does not equate given your life to christ.
I pray you repent..!

eph12:
1. Does this means if the person you're thinking of is not your wife, it's a sin?

2. What would Jesus do?

yes it wud be a sin

i hav gone past the levl of wat wud Jesus do because the spirit that controls Christ is the same spirit at work in me

zionmade:
yes it wud be a sin

i hav gone past the levl of wat wud Jesus do because the spirit that controls Christ is the same spirit at work in me

Lol! We both know it is almost impossible for guys to masturbate over their wives. You can argue otherwise but that's fine.

Since it's the same spirit why is it difficult for you to just say Jesus will kill the guy threatening his family?

zionmade:
counter the points i made.
Is it PFN that supported obasanjo to ban our program on tv.
We are not also pentecostal because we believe dat the Holyspirit has nothing to do with the feast of pentecost.
The only thing that the abhors is remarrying after divorce and the last time i checked none of the parties rlhad remarried
Yes God hates divorce the same way he hates death doesnt mean they wont happen

SO NOW YOU ACCEPT THAT YOUR PASTOR IS DIVORCED BECAUSE YOUR MEMBERS SAY OTHERWISE. SO, YOU ARE SAYING THAT THE SAME HOLY SPIRIT THAT FELL ON THE EARLY CHRISTIANS IN THE UPPER ROOM HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FEAST OF PENTECOST?..INTERESTING, IF YOU GUYS ALREADY ACCEPT THAT MASTURBATION IS NO SIN...WHAT MORE WILL YOU NOT SAY? I ASKED A MEMBER IF YOU GUYS TEACH ABOUT HELL FIRE AT ALL AND THE CONSEQUENCES OF SIN, I REMEMBER WONDERING HOW FAR BRAINWASHED HE WAS, AFTER HIS RESPONSE.

zionmade:
I didnt say masturbation is not a sin. I said MASTURBATION ON ITS OWN is not a sin. If u think otherwise, my brother prove it. Let me give u a hint KILLING ON ITS OWN is not a sin

what is this one saying? can u explain?

fpeter:
SO NOW YOU ACCEPT THAT YOUR PASTOR IS DIVORCED BECAUSE YOUR MEMBERS SAY OTHERWISE. SO, YOU ARE SAYING THAT THE SAME HOLY SPIRIT THAT FELL ON THE EARLY CHRISTIANS IN THE UPPER ROOM HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FEAST OF PENTECOST?..INTERESTING, IF YOU GUYS ALREADY ACCEPT THAT MASTURBATION IS NO SIN...WHAT MORE WILL YOU NOT SAY? I ASKED A MEMBER IF YOU GUYS TEACH ABOUT HELL FIRE AT ALL AND THE CONSEQUENCES OF SIN, I REMEMBER WONDERING HOW FAR BRAINWASHED HE WAS, AFTER HIS RESPONSE.

Back up watever u are saying with the scriptures.
1, those who received the Holyspirit were not celebrating pentecost. If u think otherwise prove to me that the Holyspirit came because of the pentecost or because some disciples who refused to celebrate the pentecost shut themslves in a room in fellowship
2. Yes my Pastor is divorced and so wat is the sin there? prove it from the scriptures
3. prove to me that masturbation is a sin.
I am waiting mr Judge. And dont fall ur hands if the scripture is not ur field, better dont open ur mouth because i will floor u.

Emmiekeyz:
what is this one saying? can u explain?

u said its a sin, am waiting for u to tell me why it is a sin

donttouch:
I pray he start attending your church, let's see if that he will get salvation.
I know him way back. He is an irredeemable sinner. A green snake in a green grass. You can bet on my word. He will write worst things about your church here one day, if he stat attending.


***A case of a student blaming the teacher whenever he come last in class***

i wanted to comment but when i saw ur name..... i reserved my comments.

zionmade:
Back up watever u are saying with the scriptures.
1, those who received the Holyspirit were not celebrating pentecost. If u think otherwise prove to me that the Holyspirit came because of the pentecost or because some disciples who refused to celebrate the pentecost shut themslves in a room in fellowship
2. Yes my Pastor is divorced and so wat is the sin there? prove it from the scriptures
3. prove to me that masturbation is a sin.
I am waiting mr Judge. And dont fall ur hands if the scripture is not ur field, better dont open ur mouth because i will floor u.

wait for me

zionmade:
u said its a sin, am waiting for u to tell me why it is a sin

it is like u are confused, am i the one that said it is a sin? i asked u to explain what u meant.

jaymejate:
THIS GUY is .... i'm sorry to say, is a fool.
you guys have totally forgotten that, the pastors are human being and not has perfect as Jesus u know.
they too always look for a way to get enlightened. so you too you are finding enlightenment that's why you're there.
teachings can never be perfect.
you are to take the ones that is useful to you and throw away the ones that are not.

the ministry of people is different. some is to teach holiness, some to teach on how to give, some is prosperity e.t.c.

and moreover, they didn't force you to give or did they point gun at you to give?
if they are not giving you what you want to hear, go to another place and stop making people feel like the church is diff.

MINISTRY OF EVERYONE IS DIFF.

you judging them, check Romans 2; 1-3

You see yasefu? U better digest the OP's message and face reality. Anyways, u get ur way to follow.

zionmade:
Back up watever u are saying with the scriptures.
1, those who received the Holyspirit were not celebrating pentecost. If u think otherwise prove to me that the Holyspirit came because of the pentecost or because some disciples who refused to celebrate the pentecost shut themslves in a room in fellowship
2. Yes my Pastor is divorced and so wat is the sin there? prove it from the scriptures
3. prove to me that masturbation is a sin.
I am waiting mr Judge. And dont fall ur hands if the scripture is not ur field, better dont open ur mouth because i will floor u.

I KNOW YOUR TYPE. I WON'T EVEN BOTHER WITH YOUR DELUDED MIND. MAY YOUR EYES OPEN TO THE TRUTH. READ YOUR BIBLE, I PRAY, DON'T GO ABOUT TEACHING PEOPLE THAT MASTURBATION IS NOT A SIN. YOU AND YOUR LIKES MAY CONTINUE TO MASTURBATE YOUR WAYS TO HELL BUT DON'T DECEIVE OTHERS TO GO THERE WITH YOU. BYE...PASTOR CHRIS WORSHIPER.

akagaba:
Op, wake up... as soon as u left, 500 more people walked in so dont come here and disgrace urself. If u have allowed d devil to take a hold of u, then seek deliverance somehwere becus so many lives are being changed and transformed in Christ Embassy. We dont preach sin in CE cuz thats not what God asked us to preach. We rather preach the goodnews of the gospel of our Lord Jesus and thats the gudnews that brings sinners to God.

For money matter, its only a poor man that speaks d way u do. We give big, very very big in CE and thats becuz we serve a big God so deal with ur poverty.

Basically, you are trying to say a poor man cannot attend CE? Did Jesus preach discrimination? God help us.

zionmade:
u said its a sin, am waiting for u to tell me why it is a sin

Sadly, I quite agree with your opinion on masturbation. What about the moral decadence in CE? What about the absurd nudity and fornication going on there?
What about making mockery of the holy spirit by forcing New entrants to speak in tongues by fire by force?
What about the nauseating emphasis on material things?

I won't judge anybody, but I pray God reserves a special place in hell for these yahoo yahoo pastors for all the soul's they misled and also for people like you for defending evil.

trustyshoess:
His wife files the divorce. What was he supposed to do? Force her?

Gbam

akagaba:
Op, wake up... as soon as u left, 500 more people walked in so dont come here and disgrace urself. If u have allowed d devil to take a hold of u, then seek deliverance somehwere becus so many lives are being changed and transformed in Christ Embassy. We dont preach sin in CE cuz thats not what God asked us to preach. We rather preach the goodnews of the gospel of our Lord Jesus and thats the gudnews that brings sinners to God.

For money matter, its only a poor man that speaks d way u do. We give big, very very big in CE and thats becuz we serve a big God so deal with ur poverty.

kitaatita:
The bolded is a shock; coming from a Christian.

Did the girl tell you she was a christian. The uncouth, empty-headed, loud-mouthed abusive groupie who should be hiding her face whenever church is being mentioned? The girl na con and she nor even know how deluded she is, attacking everybody with a 2nd opinion or honest inquiry?

Of all her rants on thread, which proved christlike, christianly or even sane for that matter? If this were the last christian left to convince anyone of Christ etc, the whole world would die Christ-less. And she's making even a worse PR-effort of it for her church now?

Her outbursts here show that even in that church, she must be one of the perverted deviants soiling everywhere. All these morraforkers doing sh!ts in church. Even we wey nor dey go church again get more #Respeckt for Sacred Things than them. An STD-infested "PassAbout" groupie-tout quoting Bible and still abusing everybody's mamas anyhow. Mtcheww, wonders shall never end!

@OP,
Thank God you left. May the good Lord continue to flush out others like you who are not meant to be part of this vision.

AlanSugar:
Op you remind me of a personal experience with christ embassy back in 2005. I was in church that fateful Sunday morning and after their show of callousness, the pastor's wife took the pulpit to announce the upcoming birthday of her husband with a note that 10 people are needed to contribute to get her husband a Mercedes c class. Now the c class was expected to cost 1.5 million and each person would pay 200k. Now wait for this, there weren't looking for volunteers, they handpicked people and they made the mistake of picking me. I got up as I was called to move over to meet with the group of selected "fools" and we were, while meeting, given a mandate to come up with the cash within two weeks. That was the last time I attended CE. When I heard they charged gate fees at a Christmas crusade, I wasn't surprised.

this is suprising......na wah o

Tosinex:
Christ embassy? Tahh!! I left that social gathering since school days, more than 9 year's ago, when one of the lady executive of the fellowship came up to minister with the shape of her V-jay showing glaring to the crowd due to the tight fisted trouser she wore. I and my friends just concluded it was going to be our last time in any of their gathering. And I was really growing there to become a leader there, with my Jerry curl hair and suit, omo con see fine boy hahaha. Anyways op you are invited to join Agape Christian Assembly, am sure you will love it.

You will never see Islamic folks against themselves, i only worship in CE once and from afar of the man has raised many dead, raised many down-trodden, healed many homes, helped the economic too. THERE IS NO CHURCH THAT HAS RAISED GOSPEL ARTIST LIKE Bishop Chris. no church is perfect, even mfm and deeper life are not perfect, we are all trying are best, I am not against any church in Nigeria, i dont know any false prophet in Nigeria. Let us keep trying for the Lord in what he has called us to do. Long live CE, RCCG, LFC, MFM, Deeper Life, TREM, SCOAN
I love my fellow brother, let us embrace one another and be at alert to the Isla*ic Insurgency that is raging right now

bigtt76:
Toh! You've said it all. The Church today has become an avenue of theatrical acts and followers hip rather than fellowship. The pastor's word supercedes God's word these days hence we now have pastors being called daddy or mummy.

Their photographs now are a source of protection to our homes or properties. It has become the equivalent to the mark of blood God directed the Israelite to have on their door posts while preparing to leave Egypt.

We blame a religion that kill in the name of their God but the truth is some church members would do same not for their God but their pastors.

Wow! U nailed it as it is.

harry41:
I believe everyone is entitled to their opinions. However, I also think it's wrong to make a generalisation without having all the facts.

Your first point about giving is noted but those who give aren't complaining or not seeing the results of their giving. In the bible, it was recorded in many instances that some people gave their all to a course whether in the old or new testament. You give according to the measure you want. Nobody forces you to give above your means. God sees ur heart remember? And I know that in CE it has been said several times that you can give whatever you have.


On your second point, CE talks about sin but that isn't the church's main focus. The church teaches that if you focus on the word of God, you will learn to live above your fleshly desires. Focusing on sin isn't even scriptural. Please refer to Roman 6-8. CE never glorifies sin. Go and listen to his messages there are several of them on sin and living by the spirit. Furthermore, I find it amazing how ppl just want to believe the wrong things. The issue of masturbation which many have misconstrued is sad. The other pastors on the panel talked expressly on how to overcome masturbation which shows the church doesn't endorse it. Secondly, pastor Chris went further to say that it is not a sin but a habit. He said when you treat it as a habit, it breaks the power over you. Masturbation is a habit and can be overcome.

Lastly, it is contained in several verses of the bible that there's a gospel according to saint Paul, St Peter and so on. So I don't think when they say pst chris's msg that they mean something different or heresy.

I believe everybody should have a relationship with God and seek him personally then by his spirit you can discern rightly.

Thanks

Some pastor Chris brainwashed are already here!

A haha , to become a pastor there, u av to fry ur hair like pastor Chris and assume his semblance do everything the way he does.

Tosinex:
Christ embassy? Tahh!! I left that social gathering since school days, more than 9 year's ago, when one of the lady executive of the fellowship came up to minister with the shape of her V-jay showing glaring to the crowd due to the tight fisted trouser she wore. I and my friends just concluded it was going to be our last time in any of their gathering. And I was really growing there to become a leader there, with my Jerry curl hair and suit, omo con see fine boy hahaha. Anyways op you are invited to join Agape Christian Assembly, am sure you will love it.

Marchman:
3. Pastor Chris is the orthodoxy
In CE, Pst Chris is the standard; he is the orthodoxy of the word of God. He is in fact treated like God. His words are law. He could cancel engagements, delay marriages and, in my mother’s language, can do and undo!
Everything revolves around him. He has limitless powers and not inhibited by anything.

And what do they say about absolute power corrupts absolutely?

Exactly what you have in the church. No one dares challenge him. In a godly environment, there should have been some enquiry in to the crisis of his marriage with the objective to mend the issues. But no one dares even raise such issues. People like Joe Agbaje are prepared to lie for him. I recall a time when the issue of PST Chris living separately from his wife came up here, Joe Agbaje defended him, claiming that the couple see often and even go on romantic get-away. It was not true. To all intents and purpose, the man abandoned his wife and family in London while gallivanting around the world with his concubines. This was wrong, but who could challenge the KING? The man had also warned members never to discuss pastors and that they should run away where such matters are being discussed. What you have is a situation where people are so afraid to even consider the allegations against him, so as not to be consumed by fire! SMH!!!

With such a context, the man can get away with anything, including polygamy. He can rewrite the bible, claiming that some portions or verses were not clearly written. He can do ANYTHING, and the staunch members and the pastors would defend him. I mean ANYTHING.

They deify him, call him the ‘Jesus in white suit,’ ‘the Jesus of our time’ and such heresies.
Two personal experiences really got me worried.

A. I was in church one day when a leader in a talk show said, “Pst Chris is not only in Ikeja or Lagos. His spirit is even here right now’’. I was shocked by the comments and obvious deification of a mere mortal. But when the pastor came up, he did not rebuke the speaker or said anything about it. I left for home, thinking hard: What has happened to these people?
B. Th other one was during prayer. The person leading the prayer asked us to pray so that the message of PST Chris will take over the world. Message of Pst Chris? I asked myself. I thought we came there because of the gospel/message of Christ? Does Pst Chris have a different message? Of course, I didn’t participate in that prayer but I was shocked that no one saw anything wrong in this, which validated my growing belief that the church was veering out of the Christian lane into something else.

I will stop here for now. But if challenged by the minions of the church, I have more arsenals. Good day and God bless you.

Oh your eyes don open now ba! and u are now free from the bondage

Marchman:
I have not posted in a while but if you have followed my previous posts, you would know that I used to attend Christ Embassy Church, even though I had reservations about some of their teachings. I finally left the church, phew!
I will use this thread to explain why I quit the church and why I may never attend another Pentecostal/Charismatic church which now appears to me like a sole proprietorship, with the General Overseer or lead pastor as the owner.

1. Excessive premium on Giving money

In Christ Embassy the number one thing they lay emphasis on is giving money. The church can use any tactic to get money from members, including manipulation, threats and the likes. While there is nothing wrong with giving money or time, I believe everything should be balanced and moderate. I think that was why St Paul said we should not give out of target, or threat but as we decide in our heart. In CE, there is nothing like moderation or balance when it comes to giving. They tend to believe literally that everything answers to money. You don’t have a job, give and sow seed. You are infertile, give and sow seed. Your father is sick, give and sow seed. Every message ends with a charge to give money. They collect tithes, offerings, partnerships (money), seeds (more money), first fruits (your whole income in January) and plethora of others.

You are also charged to give for Pastor Chris’s birthday and for all the other pastors. And for projects and the likes too.

Before I started worshipping with the Church, I read the story of the account clerk at the Sheraton Hotel who stole from his employers to give to the church. As a member, I could relate with the man. The Church is obsessed with money. They do not mind how or where you get it. If you want to rise or be noticed or win awards, just give big money. It is this obsession with money that led it to start collecting gate fees from members for its New Year Service at the LoveWorld Convocation Arena in Lagos, which ironically was built by the offerings of the members charged to get in. A lot of people I know personally had gone broke, had their businesses ruined, or fallen out with a loved one because of this teaching by the church.

In summary, at CE, money is everything- EVERYTHING.

Oh your eyes don open now ba! and u are now free from their bondage

You obviously validate the Op's claims. Ughh my people perish for lack of knowledge indeed

akagaba:
Op, wake up... as soon as u left, 500 more people walked in so dont come here and disgrace urself. If u have allowed d devil to take a hold of u, then seek deliverance somehwere becus so many lives are being changed and transformed in Christ Embassy. We dont preach sin in CE cuz thats not what God asked us to preach. We rather preach the goodnews of the gospel of our Lord Jesus and thats the gudnews that brings sinners to God.

For money matter, its only a poor man that speaks d way u do. We give big, very very big in CE and thats becuz we serve a big God so deal with ur poverty.

Ogbeni go sit down somewhere Nd think about ur life with ur face down dey defend ur pastor upandan like ur life depends on it. Commanding someone to enter the pit of hell like say na u hold the key. No go wash ur head with soap and water, make u free

akagaba:
Op, u are just an agent of darkness sent from the pit of hell against the church but im sorry, u have lost d battle woefully. I command u to return to d pit of hell wher u came from

Akwaibom ayaya

nkemdi89:
My hair stylists Peter is still in police custody because he used his boss 120k she sent him to pay in the bank to sow a seed for his pastor, that same man has defrauded the boy over 700k all in the name of sowing seed, until the last one that happened. Church is in your heart and only you came pray to God and he will hear you, who so ever is deceiving you that they communicate with God directly isn't be fair. My own pastor tried match making me with his in law who is an OSU all in the name of seeing revelation, and he never disclosed that to me because in my place we dont practice such, but he knows that had be hindering him from getting married from someone of his own tribe. I go to church when I like because my own church is only sowing seeds to preach.

donttouch:
I pray he start attending your church, let's see if that he will get salvation.
I know him way back. He is an irredeemable sinner. A green snake in a green grass. You can bet on my word. He will write worst things about your church here one day, if he stat attending.


***A case of a student blaming the teacher whenever he come last in class***

Seeing that he didn't reply the quote, says a lot about him

U, keep defending what u know little about, u hear.

U can hear the part that his staunch follower of pastor Chris ( a member) here in the thread said they don't condemn sin or talk or about it, rather they tell u the good things because God wants sth good for u, this same message was corroborated by the op who was also a member. U are there and claiming non-membership, defending what u don't know, kwantinu


I noticed, u have more of females defending this niccur and his goddamn church. I understand the reason behind that perfectly since my days far back in sch.

happyheart:
Poster I am.shocked at you
I am not a member of Christ embassy but I am shocked at some of the things you shared
Firstly.. As a christian you have to give. No one in Christ embassy will encourage you to steal to give. Those who did/do are obviously trying to impress man and not God.
Secondly.. No where ever did pastor Anita accuse pastor Christ of adultery.Google is your friend! She listed abandonment, the fact that several checks on her before she could access master tapes of pastor messages and also the fact that lots of female pastors lived in white house(official residence) of pastor. Not once did she mention adultery.
Thirdly Pastor Chris is not an idol. People respect him and celebrate him. Those who idolizes him do so at their own detriment. Several msgs preached on CDs and in rhapsody talks about sin. The church doesn't condone sin. That you sinned as a leader doesn't mean you were encouraged to do so.
All you did was find fault! In a human institution, you must find faults. But the only snag is that you had to condemn and speak ill of the church. Man you are not born again!!!!!
Even if you go to Mfm or Catholic, you will still find fault.
At this point forget CE, forget PST Chris. Run your own race Oga. Repent!!! Return to God.salvation is personal
Its well with you

Nice thread. I read every damn words. CE is a great church n like every other church that shitz happen. Lemme say it rains everywhere. But one thing I've realized is that if u wanna run this Christian race without anger, bitterness etc, just be a floor member. With that u won't be fully informed bout the deep things happening in the church. I attended deeper life as a growing child n was a choir, wat I saw was the same thing I saw in CE. I guess no one is perfect. Now I attend MFM. Just breeze into church n breeze out. Pray n fellowship with God constantly to keep the faith. Pastor Chris is a teacher of the word of God, I even attend communion service till date. Although I encountered so many things that were a bit not nice, but I guess God knows them that are his. So instead of judging, let's just pray for more Grace for Christians to run the race that's been set before us. PEACE